#Grappling Hook pulling enemies actively makes it a worse movement spell

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zinc chasm
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Grappling Hook is a very fun and strong movement spell provided the terrain allows it to work, and theoretically the ability to grapple enemies into your traps is a neat bonus to it, however it really hinders the spell's mobility. Grappling an enemy when trying to move completely cancels your intended movement which feels terrible in a lot of cases.

Running through a tight cave, and you can't use your movement spell because it keeps hitting random trash mobs scattered throughout. Being swarmed by a group of enemies and trying to use your movement spell to escape, but it turns out your only movement spell in that scenario is arrow bomb because grapple can't hit any blocks through all the mobs. Even rocket jump grapple cycling to fly over a group of mobs is unsustainable when your grapple fails to connect with the floor. (Lootrun anecdotes)

Imo the ability to pull mobs does not come near being useful enough to where actively nullifying your movement spell is an ok consequence. Wasting time lining up an enemy with a trap instead of spamming bombs and or luring them by just walking doesn't feel very effective. Perhaps you could use it with focus trapper, but that is basically exclusive to laby and it already hits such an absurd area anyway if set up properly (maybe not in wide arenas and on bosses with cci, but in 99% of cases yes). Pretty much my only use for grapple pull as of now is pulling golden avias down from the sky because it's funny.

I'm not actually sure if it's possible to make grapple phase through enemies but personally this has been very annoying and if something could be done to prevent your movement from being canceled (like just making it so you grapple toward the enemy instead of them toward you) i think it would be a lot better even if the option of pulling things is cool

simple flicker
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it does but it must stay

analog mural
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Why are you aiming at enemies if you’re using grappling hook for movement

Wouldn’t the angle for that be a bit higher

simple flicker
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it is very generous on the hitbox

zinc chasm
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(and it can go very fast between challenges) (and in caves the roof is so low that its best to aim straight at the wall)

analog mural
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I have never seen that before
How are you doing that

balmy drift
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Also please fix grappling hook not hooking on barriers it makes NOL maze so much more annoying

zinc chasm
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if u hook down grapple boosts u up a bit and rocket jump is very strong

analog mural
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Oh

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(I haven’t played 2.0+ archer that much)

lost ferry
reef cave
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you have NOT heard of my grappling hook dps build

zinc chasm
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this is actually my EVIL plan to nerf your grapple dps build to the ground 😈

celest pivot
balmy drift
meager cove
# zinc chasm

This looks so fun to pull off, hows the dps on it? (what weapon?)

zinc chasm
balmy drift
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Ah you use threads for the actual damage i assume

zinc chasm
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that build is like 200k? line dps and can go boonless 30+ easily

violet turtle
lost ferry
upper ginkgo
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This is a new kind of acrobat huh

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Deserves a like

gray wedge
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Why now every class has acrobat lol

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Mage - the new wand with levitate
Warrior - uppersurf
Shaman - Simple totem haul
Archer - what the fuck is this
And they all do more damage then acrobat itself

coral star
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suspended soliloquy was nerfed dead plus if you're building agi then you're probably going warp already

celest pivot
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Mage flight is ez anywa

frank summit
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The duatfly…

lost ferry
daring spruce
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im buildign a sand wall

coral star
lost ferry
coral star
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id like to get back into it but not sure what servers are worth investing time into

daring spruce
lost ferry
lost ferry
# daring spruce join vc

I wish. I can't tho I'm at work taking care of my delirious patient. He's asleep now tho so I can relax, but I still can't be in VC

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daring spruce
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aw. alr

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nws lol

coral star
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is it anarchy orrr...

gray wedge
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And now also me

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My pc is an happy potato, it's starting up

daring spruce
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nws

celest pivot
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WHy ar you building sand wall

fallow fractal
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shoo

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all of you

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stop derailing this thread

simple flicker
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salted i dont feel so good

celest pivot
simple flicker
coral star
gleaming timber
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This matter has been discussed before

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It seems they ignored cuz idk

slow meadow
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based thread

strong herald
frank summit
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~~Its called something asia players wernt able to do till recently ~~

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Well doable but just not consistent when a lag spike eats

bleak ledge
# zinc chasm

this guy is literally jsut too fucking cool for this game

sly path
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nah thats sick

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im taking ghook now

violet turtle
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j agree

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hook was useless to me until I discovered this magic

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@zinc chasm does this work with emesis?

wooden swallow
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Anyway, I actually remember when this was being tested originally, it was back when Grapple Hook was way slower, but pulled harder

I think with how weak the pull is on mobs its not worth having, but it could be cool as a major ID (or it NOT working as a major ID)

zinc chasm
zinc chasm
upper ginkgo
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Still waiting the sick build drops

violet turtle
zinc chasm
upper ginkgo
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oh thanks

zinc chasm
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i was kinda salty when i saw this get put on a level 66 pants mid but after using it this is actually goated tyvm 🙏

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analog mural
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Where do you get it from

muted hazel
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new world event drop?

analog mural
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Ah ok

muted hazel
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just a guess, im not quite sure