#Raid Tutorial Rooms

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vague cypress
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remove them. new people dont read them at all and still throw challenges. its just a time waster

barren quiver
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"new people don't read them" ok so make them better. Easier to understand. The answer is not "force them to lose and then watch outdated YouTube videos about it"

warm glade
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some new people read things. source: I read things when I'm new to them

vague cypress
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most new people dont read things. source: my last 3 pf raids in a row

warm glade
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most, not all

kindred warren
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its more fun when you go in blind struggle then go check the tutorial room

warm glade
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3 is a small sample size anyway. the original post didn't include a "most" qualifier, so a sample size of 1 was enough to disprove it

vague cypress
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4*

verbal galleon
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removing the tutorial is just gonna make things worse

thick lake
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the solution is to make them say something more useful than "fight! gather! parkour!"

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"what do i do here?"
"fight, gather and parkour"
"yeah no shit i have to fight gather and parkour in this game, that's what i've been doing ever since lvl 1. What exactly am i supposed to fight, gather and parkour?"
"erm. not my problem ok bye"

cosmic jungle
random bay
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I've heard first hand from less experienced players that they are a step towards removing the boundaries for raiding

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Adding more text would make them less likely to be read and I think they would be read more if people weren't mad the second that their raid takes 5 seconds longer

warm zinc
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Some people are just willfully ignorant.
"Why didn't you do X and progress the room?"
"I'm new to the raid, I didn't know how."
"Why didn't you read the instructions or ask for clarification?"
"I'll read it next time OK?"
He then proceeds not to read it the next time, and the same conversation repeats a few days later...

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Some still read it though, I did when they were added.

thick lake
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which, to be fair, some of them do

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others however look like they're there to mock new players or smth

graceful spindle
junior garnet
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they probably just zone out and see that everyone else went to the door so they should go too

worn mural
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they do read them in my experience but either way, terrible post

graceful scaffold
halcyon folio
mighty timber
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i agree theres better ways of giving info that vague prerooms but just abandoning turorials is not the way to go

halcyon folio
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Maybe make the tutorial rooms availabe outside the raid so ppl can take time to read it

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And suggest they go through it if its their first time at that raid

warm zinc
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Pull a festival of the blizzard and have a tutorial the game doesn't stop shoving in your face until you either A: do the tutorial or B: complete a run without issue?
At least I think I remember bliz brawl having a poppup telling you to please dear god I'm begging you do the tutorial first that doesn't go away until one of those condiditons are met.

graceful spindle
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On the first raid of the account make the players go through a cutscene that explains every room

keen cradle
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in theory it's a great idea, but the extra workload that would be put on with it wouldnt make it worth it

mystic bronze
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A forced tutorial like fggs selection might be something but..:bleh

wanton iron
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Although I disagree with the post it is surprising the amount of people who don't even know how rooms operate before entering a raid. You'd think they'd at least spend five minutes reading up the wiki pages first

warm zinc
mystic bronze
lusty atlas
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can we get to 100 dislikes in a day chat

mystic bronze
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Who even is the record holder, foxxo or fowl

foggy siren
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foxxo probs

misty shell
willow geode
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people definitely read them

misty shell
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like game told u where to go

rigid gust
misty shell
halcyon folio
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The people i get matched up with may have read it, but they didnt understand any of it

mystic bronze
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people may read them but not understand if they cant read english(which seems to be increasing these days)

rigid gust
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They always skip the instructions

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If they read it, but still struggle it's understandable since it's kind of a lot to take in at first.

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But no, they just sprint towards the exit of the tutorial room.

misty shell
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people should also be able to like hold their content book or smth to see the instructions

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(especially in stuff like maze room or amth)

rigid gust
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I want people to learn how to use their movement spells : )

misty shell
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and mage too

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maybe I just bad idk

rigid gust
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Wait it's possible to skip with trapper?

misty shell
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maze?

rigid gust
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Does the hook work on the invisible path

misty shell
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well I meant without leap

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idk I don’t use grapple it is dog poop

rigid gust
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O

misty shell
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u save 1 ap to put nowhere

rigid gust
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It's always the ghook and repurposed vessel users

misty shell
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I don’t think u can hook barriers D:

rigid gust
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Nop

mighty timber
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this thread doin fowlgorithm numbers 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

willow geode
graceful spindle
warm zinc
halcyon folio
native nova
ruby scroll
willow geode
ruby scroll
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Well shoot, nevermind

misty shell
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also like it isn’t like u have to do normal raids before u do graids

random bay
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I'm sure that ct would be happy to go and change the hologram descriptors or add something simple right now

loud cipher
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what would people's thoughts be on making everyone invisible for the first 10 seconds of an instruction room or something to remove pressure to go to exit

topaz gulch
misty shell
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that would be cool

topaz gulch
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still better than rn tho

misty shell
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reading in 10 seconds is a bit of a challenge tho

willow geode
warm cargo
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Would it be possible to add some area with the tutorial rooms near the raid keeper so you can just go look at them before you do the raid? I'm not sure if that would be too confusing. Another thing could be having the option to opt out of tutorial rooms so if everyone is familiar with the raid they can just get straight to the challenge

graceful spindle
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Wait i love instruction rooms they let me get texts out or check emails

misty shell
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yeah i love hammer room too cause like i can just do hw or smth

graceful spindle
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Clearly someone doesnt damage farm on the mobs

rough shell
misty shell
rough shell
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I think you might be missing the point

graceful spindle
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i also don’t like the astal 5 heart nerf. i understand its to make sure someone defends (which, with 4 paths, doesnt make sense) but with high ping and lag you can easily run it down. i think it should be more forgiving if there is somebody defending, as in, if nobody defends meteors fall faster and astal loses health way quicker

misty shell
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or make it so u dont have to defend if skilled. it would be nice if u could skip defend

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like just make it possible again

rough shell
graceful spindle
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You used to be able to

misty shell
rough shell
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No like you still can

misty shell
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in a graid?

graceful spindle
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Its a death sentence in prinder

rough shell
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Yeah?

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Its pretty easy to do sub 30 astral if you’re coordinated

misty shell
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someone needs to teach me this

rough shell
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All you need its to not fall on parkour and kill axon fast enough

warm zinc
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I always default to defending astal if no one says anything, can't trust pfinder monkeys to do squat sometimes

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It sucks but I no longer randomly fail tcc on the def room lol

rough shell
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I usually do boulders and defend or do goliath and defend depending on what im playing/whp im playing with

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But if someone who doesn’t know how to defend beats me to it there’s not much you can do about it

warm zinc
rough shell
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Also god forbid the other 3 players all don’t want to do parkour and ur stuck there defending for 3 minutes while they stand around

warm zinc
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But they never actually get out of the circle even if everyone is spamming for them too

warm zinc
rough shell
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But yeah if something interactive in the tutorial room was added to where you could defend there and see twould be great

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Also i would love it if the giant ass wall in the middle of escort instruction room was removed because the only thing it’s good at smacking you in the face if you want to movement spell into the portal

rigid gust
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And why

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Okay but in all seriousness where else would they put the wall.

rough shell
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actually untrue, if i charge and land in the portal its wings room and im happy

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tbh im not even sure why the wall is there

rigid gust
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Well Ig they could rotate it

rough shell
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Maybe if u could flip the switch and the wall lowered it would make sense

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Ye or like put it to the side next to where the switch is

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Afaik thats the only instruction room that just has an obstacle in front of you

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Ig lava too but its not as intrusive

quiet spoke
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better idea

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remove it but only in guild raids

cobalt valve
lusty atlas
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chat we are so close to 100 in under 24h

iron shore
silk viper
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Or did the game just auto-tp eventually

silk viper
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What’s up

sharp jay
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having the option is better than not having anything, and since "dev time", either they overhaul it, or leave it as is, and they have better things to do.

modest halo
spiral vine
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Triple digits thumbs down

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You’re in the big leagues now

vague cypress
ruby scroll
spiral vine
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Fr

cosmic jungle
willow geode
loud cipher
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we're gonna try a potential replacement for instruction rooms hopefully in the next patch (starting with orphion tower), let us know what you think!

willow geode
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neat

graceful spindle
mighty timber
loud cipher
willow geode
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before the patch drops

willow geode
vague cypress
cosmic jungle
cosmic jungle
junior garnet
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its not impossible that graids add extra challenges to rooms that need to be explained via instruction rooms

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so its probably best to keep them

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yknow, for consistency's sake

rough shell
foggy siren
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invite your friends to your guild like

rough shell
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Havign friends in who are chiefs in 3 different guilds goes hard like

cosmic jungle
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Inaccesible graids go hard

barren quiver
warm zinc
barren quiver
loud cipher
willow geode
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😔