#Blizzard Brawl Official Feedback Thread
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i've not done legendary or rickeo
kid named irlok:
I just pick Who im worst with
is irlok bad now?
yes
No
this is the problem with wynncraft festival games
Irlock is good
but rickeo still shuts him down
Its not as good as it was
the CT is constantly rebalancing, so the meta's constantly changing
how is that a problem
Yeha i like that
id hate it if you could run theorick hailey tom for the entire festival and win
I hated when irlock was a fucking walking Nike
irlok is bad since passive is dead
Nuke
but like, its damn fun
and stalker getting nerfed
But throwing People off the map :(
yeah you stopped dealing damage but the kb portion wasnt nerfed
so you now fling theoricks and such off
Irlock is all about throwing People off the map
counterpoint: theorick shield, dr li hover, rickeo shift, irlok dash, garwicks entire kit
Not anymore about doing damage
Its annoying
his ult works
Gawrick is like a mosquito
teleport can save you from being knocked off
me when i ult gawrick off, bro shifts back, 5harmony kick it back, then it teleports
😡
It does not much damage
It runs a lot around
If you hit it, somehow because he is so fucking fast, he heals in 0.2 seconds to full health
sending another irlok off is easier than sending a gawrick off
it does not do much damage: garwick appearing in your face and throwing a 35 damage piercing projectile
also his ult combo'd with rickeo is crazy
Every 6 seconds
on the brightside tom can shoot the pest down decently
Nah with Tom is Better
You kill everyone
is anyone elses games extremely laggy btw
but you have to get people into the ult
a timed irlok ult also works but its rough
which rickeo is good at
Thats true
fr
and whoever that can push people outa hiding spots better
my face when theres a gawrick ult at mid and i see a fireball and lasso
Honestly, the game is nicely balanced
well
pls fix irlok i need health regen back, but aside of that
shield uptime could go down yeah
Theorick Maybe need a nerf to the shield
maybe slightly lower shield uptime or longer cd
Make the shield take damage
Really?
Yeha thats way too much
theo's shield needs to have smaller health
and slower health decay
so that you can actually cause a meaningful amount of damage with hits
I agree
it has a health but like, yeah
true actually
Nah some decay is fine
ok 80hp with a fatter hitbox than drL is a problem, gonna not exist lmao
150hp
150 sure
With some decay
maybe 15/s?
Good to me
either that or take his damage down
Dr leg and Tom oneshot that, but i mean
my proposal is that, with player damage discounted from both ends, the lifespan of the sphere remains the same
but its health is halved or something
so that it's easier to damage
so basically your suggestion
anyways did people enjoy irlok on the spawn bridge
irlok on spawn bridge is a bit too risky as the irlok imo
takes too long to get the harmony too
Im starting to knock People off their spawn
With irlock
its fun :3
Spawnkilling
but its just enough to take em off
Is so fun
- if they go mid you can still pull off
You can imagine the despair of People
peak degeneracy is like kick 1 off, ult another off, auto and kick 1 more off
Active chat
i don’t get the second point
reloading in any game that has guns in it are almost always going to make you vulnerable
obviously they want the gun Dr.L uses and its downgraded to
tbf it would help if his only not gun attack was actually good.
although yeah. Tom is better to do the "i shot 1 bullet time to reload strat"
nbl5r bhcrg. ggsc
yeahh
ttbw kk he jhf
the uhhh
ugh jv
disregard that
thanks
thats what im saying!
this guy gets it
LIVE uni reaction
What’s the equation for rewards
not telling you 😇
you are not farming 😇
just become a gawrick
fr
kid named aledar
one change (15% > 10%) made him quite unplayable
whos the bird guy
nip nop
he's decent at the class but god he's not the smartest when it comes to the actual gameplay
i noticed i couldnt win when he shot me in the face when im gawrick
Noooo pls
bwahaha
lag my beloved
true
i smell the same treatment did on irlok
i spawned in the void so had to dc :(
Tried /kill?
:( I was in that game
the 2v3 did not went well
(in particular with 200ms)
rip
reminder you can aim upwards as irlok
and uh...you can point blank/go inside theorick to kick him inside the shield :3
combine this and you can send him off anywhere as long as theres a room :3 and uh 5harmoy
@flat zodiac tom just counters my ass since i get bullets before getting to act :(
Oh im starting to remember why i love irlok
Reminds me of mineplexs ctf/champions gamemode with a class that had shield bash
And i loved using that…
yes i also bought the bomb? Consumables and bashed people into them
YOO thata so true
can respawn timer
please sometimes reset
its not fun losing games because you have 7 second timer, and then 40 seconds later 9 seconds
it does reset after capturing a point
imo games shouldnt be decided by 10 second respawn timers
thats why end-point team wipes are musthave
otherwise games would be 30 minutes long
on 2-2
and its aint fun
if you run tanks/supports you want to try stay alive as much as possible if your team was killed
as well as trying to be on the point to slow down the capture significantly
if you're dps you want to try team wipes to come back
imo, yes, doing kills early-point is not rewarding at all
but it also gives you time to adapt to the new point and charge your ult
(me when i kick people off as irlok)
it only works since timers are real
gawricks, dr legs, irlocks honest reactions
ngl 5chi punch still feels hella rewarding just because people forget they can actually try to clutch the knocking off
i am begging for the balance patch which gives irlok his passive back...
ye
and you aim it upwards to send people above the walls
(mainly theoricks)
rickeo and irlocks looking at lvl50 theorick using the bridge to get to the C site (worst mistake of his life)
the irlok experience is where you get kicked off, warscreamed off, kicked off again
its not a theorick but it will work
what even happened
i whipped irlock out of the bridge and he tried to punch himself back
but hit me instead
how did he end up behind you from whip
whip pulls enemy, it doesnt pull it directly to you tho
so if you pull someone while being really close to them they will fly further
tom need a fire rate nerf imo
mmm I love lag
guys is the rickeo counter another rickeo
Then when they counter swap your rickeo go Dr legendary
then they just go tom
you know how all lifeforms evolve into crabs eventually
all blizzard brawl classes evolve into tom
the issue is garwick is kinda not a threat to everyone else
counterpoint you don't need to be
you just be a nuisance who occasionally drops like 40 damage in someone's face point blank while healing and chipping down others
Garwick is not designed to be a threat, he's just a thorn to the enemy team
eh fair.
Dude is super squishy and can be oneshotted by Tom shotgun
the downfall of blizz brawl
Balance patches must happen :D
me when I lie
one day Dr legendary will be patched
and tom nerfed
and theorick nerfed
and insert every other problem here
dr patch will surlt make his rmb damage reasonable
or at least consistent
as ij not 14 dmg for the worst projectile in the entirety of wynn
id be fine with like 20-25 direct shot and 8-14 for explosion
it will be fine next year 
I think all of the sillies here were not as disappointing as good jamp fatigue detection being stripped away from us 3 days into release(which I get was unavoidable bc wynnjank or smth but still 😭 )
I think liek 30 ish dmg max would be reasonable yea
Also theorick maybe some nerfs to everything
-1 dmg lcm, longer spear CD, lower shield uptime
his frontshot spear is so annoying on dr li holy moly
the kb makes me explode :(
I could just use my brain and wait for them to use it on someone else and ten go in b that requires 2 brain cells
be sure to keep hover charges in reserve
no i dont die to the kb it just cancels lmb smash :(
pov Hammond vs orisa
sorry I haven't been pumping out the patches guys
I got kinda burnt out
sorry yall
it's all good
whats wrong w/ drl?
sometimes his right click in mech form releases like a billion fireworks
I've insta killed toms before like that
oh
ive heard it's smth to do with direct hits
But I don't think a direct hit is intended to do like 60+ damage
Point blank hits I think it was
yeah kinda wacky
also very scary
but if you have movement just save it for post mech transformation and it's gg
unless irlok
IT STILL DOESNT WORK!!!! @glad basin
i am working on it sorry
it is not intentioinal but dr li sucks so it wasnt quick hotfixed
that is how it works tho
all good g u already made a p good game and can improve it over the next year type shi 
This is the day I quit the game(please make this a feature instead of removing it ct)
surely u can axe a good portion of gawricks regen and give irlok his passive back...
jsut make it like 30 dmg and itd be reasonable
i got the killection agency achievement four times in one tick
would have taken a screenshot but pressed f1 instead
🤯
rickeo needs a nerf
this game will go away before bugs are fixed
btb flashbacks
ngl suprised i enjoyed btb as much as I did considering how unplayable it felt sometimes
post number 288 complaining about how finnicky jump fatigue could be
what 😭
if you wont let rickeo close distance between you and him hes pretty much useless
theorick, tom, gawrick, irlock, rickeo
rickeo shift and lasso 
yeah but if rickeo uses them to close distance hes nude before the fight
only if you shift/lasso to ult
irlok and theorik have two options: fight in melee or ignore him
theorick can just harass him inside the barrier
and constantly throwing away with javelin
except if you miss one javelin you're dead
if he gets into your bubble you're cooked
literally
tom on the other hand for rickeo is just hell
what can rickeo really do with the range tom has? hope tom goes close range
I feel the classes i could play is reducing as time goes on
how do you dodge rickeo
i cannot shoot rickeo if i am running away
and if i am running away, rickeo is punching me, and making it hard to see because of all the particles, and doing KBs
Gawrick removed selfhealing now i only get theo tom maybe dr leg to use and I don’t even main any of them
how are you people hitting every javelin
you DONT want to melee rickeo
only real exceptions are irlock and drl
otherwise you want to have an escape
as tom you want to save 3-4 bullets to jump away
C site is the easiest in escaping as you have short walls that you can jump over
second site is open so rickeo have to risk to get to you
third site is tough because rickeo is really good on it
you still can try to ult...
but if rickeo focuses you specifically and your kit is on cooldown then yeah
its a very slow projectile as far as spears go
and a very generous hitbox
even on dr li u still gotta chip the rickeo first bfore givng backshots or jsut hit like 3 direct hits ina row
otherwise yo mech gets melted and u gotta escape with heli
if you ever see an rickeo use the dash to get in, just kick it off as an irlok
its really funny :3
so did everyone else as it seems..
(thankfully not my ss but its wild lol)
btw irlok can kick you straight off the map, from inside the barrier so hf
Eh the rockets are easy to dodge(also I doubt it's 60 from experience. It's more like 25
yeah per firework
pov dr legendary dropping 10 on you at once
Dr legendary has the slowest firespeed in the game
except he drops directly on top of you
The only reason it seems like a lot is the extra damage comes in the form of extra explosion
and all of a sudden he stops caring about firespeed
??? Firespeed still limits damage regardless of range
except he can fire a shit ton of explosions at once
Tom has much higher firespeed and does like 15 per shot
He can't
That's only the direct hit
but ive done it many times before and have had it done to me many more
ok yeah thats not exactly fair
Which is the large amount of damage
And that requires Dr legendary to either hit the slowest projectile in the game
Or be close
With mega slow movespeed
Just bait out his initial mech form
ok what exactly are you tryna say here
That its not op
counterpoint: it is
he should not be able to melt a theorick from full to none
and he has pretty good movement
Tom can do that
you can react to tom
you cant react to a dr legendary dropping directly on you in mech form
You can react to Dr legendary slowly approaching you
Or move away when he's doing his fly
except only a braindead dr legendary is gonna do that
oh boy let me walk in a straight line and mech in front of them
and telegraph when exactly im about to drop a mininuke via bug abuse
Yeah and you'll only be able to melt a theo if theo is standing still
Most of the time he walks out of his shield and your projectiles are stopped
yeah no there is a 0% chance you can convince me that he should keep the ability to one shot like the entire roster
He doesn't though
ender whats your opinion
if bug was fixed along with mech suit bugs dr li would drop to like C tier and theo would be in 90% of all tank lineups
is dr li mininuke balanced
like dr li needs the mech rlb
He can get like 2 or 3 shots
yeah thats kinda more with the fact that theorick is crazy
Before the enemy can walk out
you can run theorick into any comp and he works
i might as well say it here
but dr lis overheal applying
should be 5 bloccks
tbut it isnt
so its like WAY better then it is rn
Also for Dr legendary to get in he needs helicopter he needs to hit his initial right click
You can rush him then
the dmg rather
if you just perfectly counterplay this character hes not a problem
its so hard to hit
Murder him
why didnt i think of that
yeah id say just make his right click faster but drop the damage a bit
if i were to fix bug i would double and then some the direct hit dmg
keep the direct hit but make it consistent
maybe buff the aoe dmg
The damage i think is fair for how hard it is to hit
then it should be better
yeah
its hard to hit as balls
either make it easier to hit and lower dmg a bit
or vice versa
I like how hard it is to hit
Yeah
maybe make it slightly faster
I agree
I like that irs not consistent
like id be fine with like 30dmg direct hit
Like in terms kf
Varying from if you get direct hits or not
If its all consistently good then it's boring
yeah
It's been pretty consistent to me function wise
its uncommon i miss shots that i felt i should of landed
unless its aoe
thats a bit diff
also i still feel like even with the difficulty
it shouldnt be doing ult levels of damage
it's so ducking bad yeah
ducking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
autocorrct..
same with theos dps output lol
tanks are really strong rn
u literally have to predict or corner peek so hard
rival irlock rn lmao
theo is a diff problem altogether
in terms of dps
hes just crazy
yeah
or just tike the kb for backshots or smth it's so hard to use
I like the slow projectiles speed and firespeed because it makes him suck if he stays in mech form too long
and theos hitbox on his left click
It encourages swapping
what the fuck is that
yeah
like u kb into them and then attack when u inside them
you need to swap
its gigantic
yeah jt should just be more rewarding and consistent or smth
gotta be right next to them
mech being slowish is fine and cool
just needs to he good
It is rewarding and consistent WITH the bug
It's fine rn
Imo
says the dr li main
i mean me personally id say the stuff i like is perfectly balanced even if its broken cause i enjoy it
the counterplay to dr li is few in number
well not that few
a majority of the cast can deal with him
Kill him in mech form
Once he's escaped
Or out of it
yeah sure lemme go kill the dude with mininukes in melee as the melee character
gawrick too
If he doesn't kill everyone with his mech form usage he's cooked until he gets his mech recharged
hover:
Hover has a big cd
except it'll be done by the time you're done with mech
?
unless you dropped into a rickeo fireball right after flying over
Wait mech or non mech hover
He won't have it
and come back later
Because he used it to get in
counterpoint: what if he didnt
Recharging it isn't quick enough
the key with mech
esp at like mid point he can just go over the wall via mech hover
hold on let me look at swap cd
Then idfk how you got caught by a non hover Dr li
its 3s iirc
I'm talking about the health of the mech
3-5 seconds in any given form
unless your picking a kill
giving temamates that overhealth is nice
the big thing is that from my experience its not really fun to play against a dr legendary
who likes fighting the guy who can nuke you in melee
drastically increases your lifespan
yeah
i get that
i dont like fighting them AS dr li
me too :3
tho i suppose that also applies to rickeo
the overhealth isnt the problem just the range is bugged
it isnt 5 blocks its like
way bigger
rickeo is super unfun to play against
it's basically infite lol
but he has so much counterplay
5 drained per second
gawrick is also not that large of a threat
gawrick can be
Well we're just talking purely fun
tom can be countered by like all but 2 members of the cast
bringing attention off of your own dps or tank
oh
hailey has 0 counterplay to tom
gawrick from my experience is the best
both can do that well
you just make them lose their mind
rickeo you just drop on them via shift and mug them
You said all but 2
irlok just dont let em see you go up
Then technically another Dr li counters Dr li
eh
i mean they alr can
its a 50/50
see who lands more mininukes
Yeah
not pray
real
Yeah
its not spray n pray
but thats kinda a waste of time
human form to chip there mech
or theres jump directly on them
Also its like, whoever uses their left click (both of them) more effectively
its like in overwatch terms ball vs ball
Also utilisation of teamwork using the overheal
and widow vs widow
ballin
theres no teamwork for that u just spam it lol
since bugged
True
if it were fixed then yeah theres more teamwork
5 blocks seems super tiny tho
but maybe it would feel more fair
Okay I can then argue that widow vs widow is a uninteractivr skill vs skill Dr legendary needs you to predict and understand the other players usage of his skills more
I skipped overwatch class in school I'm sorry yall
whats a good wynn comparison
backshots is not in the bible
what is this pvp
Pvp is just
I would never say that vile word 😇
acro v acro is just flying
Chaotic spam
Acro vs acro in like housing is like
source i am hunted violence user
Whoever gets higher
yeah
thats why i said acroshade
yeah but its movement based
It's just like
idk how that icoer did it
Uhhh
but he made acroshade work
Idk lmfao
ok basically ball is like
next up: arcbender
hypermovement
(can arcbender get better PLEASE)
sorry nothing is allowed to be good ever
womp
what are the biggest issues currently plaguing the game
uhhhhhhh
final arcanist node removes chaos explosion and gives you lightweaver
i can see if i can sort some of them out in a hotfix
most can agree
rickeo's entire kit doing less than it should
elaborate
oh irlocks bugs
lemme find the thread
did the dash momentum stop bug not get fixed already
imo
the fire smg js bugged basically
not that i know of
mm
but i havent queued becaues no one is palying
:(
i still need one more achievement
and ites easy
link ?
i dont want to go scroll for it
goober
what in his kit makes him the worst dps rn
the bug
also i heard that his self heal does like nothing now
just fix that so i see more irlock ppl
aka ive seen goosecore complaining for the past week
as long as there sustain isnt beter the nlike
also the imo biggest one
theorick is scary
surely its not THAT bad
he does like way too much
oh yeah theo
theo does too much probably yeah
and is way too tanky
i saw a mention of lmb hitbox being too big?
ok
maybe just fixing that would nerf his damage enough
tbh its not that bad
quite playable still
its annoying
- fix irlok dash (momentum stops)
- nerf theo damage a little (just lmb probably. reduce hitbox size?
- give theo a slight hp nerf perhaps. maybe like -10
- rickeo thread
- tom shotgun has no falloff (maybe just has too much range)
not the main issue
yeah
i would mention Dr Li but
that needs more dev time
probably
ive heard the mech rmb is weird
yeah a hotfix for li might just obliterate him
mhm
its like if you direct hit
yeah basically
i dont really like that its so strong in one specific circumstance
the concept i like
i think id much rather fix that bug and just buff it generally
it already is meant to do extra damage on direct hit
or get in there face
its not meant to explode fifty times
oh that isnt listed i dont think
yeah but like
if u fix buff. rmb to like 30 dmg max it's not worth if it does like 15
hold on let me look at the intended dmg
is it not
it is lo
im cooked
i swear it was
reading allegations
that is pitiful
8 dmg!!!
like it's so shit to it
base fork is better if bug gets fixed
base fork?
there gun
on mobile
right
oh whats the machine gun bug
how much does the bugged explosion do rn
its like
like
it isnt consistent
a lot
hm
depends on the amount of fireworks
your dr li wont be that close to teammates often cus of mech overhealth range bug
i feel like 30 total combined is pretty good for a direct
^^
evne if it was that goes into the possible issue i see with the intended range being 5 blocks but thats a diff thing
yeah
ok its midnight i go eepy
gn
GOOD night
buh bye y'all
im thinking about it
the thinker
and im wondering if possibly i made the explosion bug by accident
when i fixed the projectile going super slow
LEXnt was paid off by big Li....
i think thats totally what happened. lol
I think it was alr bugged before that but I could be lying
i need to confirm but
thats so silly
i dont remember
yeah cause it
I remember it being mentioned like first or 2nd day kf rleeass
would run multiple movement ticks at once if server lags enough
so it 100% would explain inconsistency too
i fixed it pretty early
yeah
ok. incredible
MR incredible
sorry guys herbert slipped me a 20 so i had to buff him
i will call qira to beat him up again
and THIS time she wont have a cold
(God i love hive drabbles)
helicopter airstrike inbound
Herbert has WAY more money than that
absurd
oh also on the topic of dr li
THE YWERE IM SO SAD
crushing blow
seems ass
12 dmg
with like so little ob
kb
I think it's fine cuz it also can be used as movement or to chain into backsgots
i mean its like
also to secure kills slah a little movmeent
true
flying duck
i mean ig with the
for your info
sprint jump tech after
when u get kbed u can easily get offmpapped without heli too
you get range
yeah that's what I'm sayjn
i guesss its ok then
idk I neeed to play more haven't done shit in a bit
just really risk
with a good tom or rikeo or theo
they cna get mech off while you do that
mhm
same with tom shotgun
and just rikeo in general
like against good players i just use crushing blow behind corners like you said
to set up range jumps
per say
to rmb them to hell
also on stairs I swear u do more smg faster or smth idk
if I get someone on the center point side stairs or middle stairs I can burst easily
true!!!!
you WHAT
yeah prob related to rikeo ult
and stiars
me
thats MY line
please save irlok passive heals...
i legit run towards peoples spawn left bridge rather than holding so i can get an earlier death or 1 for 1 kill :3
just got a double lucky merge into the max tier coin light work 🥱
yeah so i didn’t know we were poor
yes thank you voidrim your feedback is always eternally helpful
my feetbaxk is always helpful!
tbh i. amlike 90% sure thats from queue glitch
I had to post that okay it's a one in a lifetime screenshot
nexus queues pre rekindled might have been able to hit that
the guy says he got matched at 2:50 so.. idk...
doomed nvm then
Tom is so perfectly designed
i dont like toms m2 :(
less hp on theorick, less bullets on tom, functional passive on irlok 🙏 and idk maybe buff wallslam dmg a bit
wallslam damage is massive wym
if you can properly use it you can often oneshot dps
Idk, feels like when i do a 3 or 4 harmony kick its not 30,40but feels a bit lower
probably you didnt slam the enemy then
i clearly remember the moment when 5hp irlock slamed into the stair on C site and nuked me for 60 hp
can you pleasee let me play with my party i never get in the same teams : (( (
simply 6 stack
(tho yeah parties should probably be prioritied to be matched together if possible)
like btb had it and it is arguably worse in btb
ok thanks ig
slams into stairs probably makes it count as a double slam
poggers
mhm
So dumb i wanna duo bro
Do you queue up overwatch with your friends and get placed in different teams
i simply solo queue because baller
nah no one enjoys queueing with ball
and i dont have to care about my team as ball
its a win win
Whats ball
a wrecking ball
Oh
I know ball now
jumpscare
skill issue
@dusty temple so how was the irlok getting kicked off experience
tho 2nd game wasnt as great
enemy irlok always looks fun than mine