Blizzard Brawl Official Feedback Thread

[shy spoke]

I like his playstyle a lot but atm its just pretty uhh

Horrible

The support is lacking, damage is pretty horrible, the only thing going is just stalling or moving players around quickly which isn't really all that great

[loud ravine]

tbh i've found gawrcik really useful

having someone who can stall is really useful

cause the main times you lose a point is when everyone is dead

gawrcik can just run around

so then

you never reach that point

[opal zealot]

But Garwick is very skill based

[loud ravine]

buys you a lot of time and more chances to win back the point

[elfin garnet]

the scaling is so fast when a point takes hella long tho
like if respawn timer is 10 sec or wtevrr 3 players take a pt in like 15 seconds istg

[loud ravine]

not saying he shouldn't be buffed his damage skill could be less awkward to use and portal made to work better and ulti is too easy to dodge

but like, I think he has a use and is useful

[opal zealot]

He's definitely strong in good hands.

[loud ravine]

Well yeah it'll eventually beat you out but like

still useful for a decent amount of time

idk if its coded that way but to me having at least 1 player is much better than having none it seems

[elfin garnet]

u can stall on irlork or dr li or hailey fine idek

[loud ravine]

like compared to the slowdown on 2 or 3 players

[elfin garnet]

it is def better to hae 1 pplayer than none but at one point if its 3v1 on a point you are not getting it type shi

i would rather have someoen to help me cook then somoene who drops an ult every twenty mintues

[loud ravine]

Well

I found it more useful to have a safeguard

if I die

and the other teamate dies

because otherwise the point would be taken

[elfin garnet]

other jtis can safeguard as well its not exlcusive to gawrick

[loud ravine]

now would having a extra teamate make it so we wouldn't of died in the first place

idk

[loud ravine]

ik but gawrick excells at it

[elfin garnet]

sure its easier on him but at the cost off him not doing shit most of the time

[loud ravine]

dr li and haily still die

much easier

[elfin garnet]

dr li can just helicopter helicopter around and mech up for 25 absorb and u only need to stall for like 15 seconds

[loud ravine]

depends on how skilled dr li is

[coarse epoch]

or just play irlok and heal half ur hp while ur in the air and 1 shot everyone on point 🤨

[eager grotto]

lol

[elfin garnet]

tunaflish jampscare

[tidal cape]

Erm tell me why I can still be hit by Irlok's 40 damage slam while I'm still in my base

[elfin garnet]

y u in your base

[tidal cape]

I just literally spawned

[elfin garnet]

womp

5 blci radius stil might be too big but im fine wit it for now

[loud ravine]

was were the changes pushed

anyway dr li is fun

quite flexible

both long ranged poke

and teamfight aoe

and damage avoidance with his left click abilities

good for baiting irloks and such

• supports with tanking

[eager grotto]

• Gawrick's Gleamsphere can now pierce through enemies and friendlies (but not terrain).
• Gawrick's Gleamsphere will heal allies it passes through (for 3hp/sec it was charged)
• Gawrick's Transdimensional Warp (shift) will now immediately teleport gawrick to the target casting point
• Gawrick's ultimate wind-up duration has been reduced (3500ms->3200ms)

[dusty temple]

@eager grotto is dr.legendary's allie 20health actually 5 blocks radius

and WHY is it blocking the overflow damage no matter its on who

i thought its only on dr leg cause a prot so you wont die instantly when leaving mech but its on all the allies that have your overhealth WTF

[eager grotto]

overhealth in general blocks overflow damage

[dusty temple]

what...

thats not intuitive when it does not in overworld

and sorry for my shouting

[loud ravine]

whats overflow damage

[loud ravine]

time to find some good lineups

(as in lining up shots)

[glad basin]

unfortunately the hero shooter genre is a genre that is very prone to this type of behaviour where people will just blame their teammates for everything. maybe adding a way to switch class mid game was a mistake cause that almost gives people a reason to act that way

[loud ravine]

when the gawrick rickeo on the other team switch to theorick and irlok you know it's getting serious

[grand dust]

a

my first ever game on rickeo as well

bro they insta left?

is it bc i snagged irlock?

do they lose SR aswell for insta leaving?

i hope so

[flat zodiac]

Yes, but sr is useless

[sturdy quartz]

SR does nothing unless you are already in a party and pick the gamemode that let's SR decide

[eager grotto]

anyone who leaves a game early loses SR and doesn't gain any rewards

[grand dust]

i didnt leave the game

[warped tusk]

does SR actually do like nothing at all

[opal zealot]

Also, can you let us know when the next patch gonna come?

[warped tusk]

also it doesnt increase sometimes whys that

[eager grotto]

if i knew when it was coming myself I would, lol

[terse shuttle]

Chat is this real

As a garlic lover ive been asking for every single one of those except the wind up time one (i was talking abt the portal insta tp only ingame tho)

[eager grotto]

it will be next patch

someone has been typing for a concerning length of time

[fading ether]

yes.

okay i might need to do some research for this feedback

to not seem like a fool

[shrewd willow]

thank you it's amazing

you can't imagine buggy that thing was when it didn't teleport you

[eager grotto]

lol

[forest jungle]

Will gawrick finally complete his transformation into tf2 teleporter

[eager grotto]

mayhaps

[terse shuttle]

Having to basically exit the teleporter hitbox and walking back in was pain

[eager grotto]

i think it should be instant now

i hope

idk i kinda shitcoded the fix lol!

[terse shuttle]

When is the "next patch"

[flat zodiac]

we dont know

[dusty temple]

soom tm

[dusty temple]

i finally found a way to play dr leg pretty well without using even 1% of the brain

also irlok nerfs are on

[loud remnant]

me when i queue this thing and my teammate spends half the game hitting me

and then this happens

[terse shuttle]

Omg its live

[dusty temple]

LOL I LOVE NEW GAWRICK

[loud remnant]

wow wynn dc'd me on my 2nd game

man. can i just get my useful trinkets already and dont play this

yo anyone wanna tell me how shards are calculated so i can abuse that instead of playing the actual game

[dusty temple]

1281 lets go

[fading ether]

hello

[fading ether]

Damage dealt, Health given, Capture contribution

if you want to grind them quick usually you want to run Rickeo, because hes both healing and damage dealing a lot

[dusty temple]

rickeo new gawrick irlok all self healing lets go

[eager grotto]

ohh i forgot about gawrick self healing

oops...

[dusty temple]

i havent tried new irlok but i see those people stuck in air and idk what

[dusty temple]

please do not remove it...

[eager grotto]

ill keep it in for now

we'll see how it plays out

[dusty temple]

omg thanks

although i am down for reducing it(not fully cancel)

[loud remnant]

i might

blaster is so good i want one for every class i think

[dusty temple]

honestly i expect people will get use to the new rmb and crashing the meta with gawrick in pf in few hours

its old irlok level rn

once you get the aiming

[fading ether]

i wanna try new gawrick

hm

as an unofficial rickeo enjoyer, noticed a few weird things about the wholesome dude:

1. whip doesnt apply fire status effect; plain 6 damage sounds not so bad for finishing people, but it seems weird that ability called Firey Whip, which supposed to apply 5🔥 /0.75s is not doing so.
2. flame tornado launches people above the ground, but it doesnt say so in the description. i find this feature cool, especially because you arent that agile in the air, and most of the rickeo's abilities specializes on controlling opponents movement
3. please, add a bar for showing flame tornado charge time. of course you still can onetap it to fly short range, especially what you want to do in most fights, but this also completely loses the entire idea of charging it, only for quickly getting to the point after you died. my suggestion is to make the longer you charge it, the more fire damage it will deal and the more radius is? I assume [8 -> 12 🔥 damage /1s] and [2.5 -> 4 block radius] will encourage players to actually charge it to burst in fights, especially because rickeo is a melee brawler.
4. transfered to the paragraph 8
5. im in love with rickeo's ultimate, allowing for really quick kills if used correctly, but probably the main issue is that hitbox feels funky, and doesnt matches the model in the game. noticed that a lot of times if you use it really close to the opponent, it will just pass through-

-the opponents, or the outer rings of his super brushing against people but not actually hitting them.

update:
6. rickeos flaming fist does NOT deals 6+5🔥 damage. it only deals 6+3🔥 damage. is this intented?
7. rickeos flame tornado doesnt deal additional damage when you stop dashing if used directly under you, probably intented but somehow it never does work with regular, straight dashes as well. And sometimes, you can hit the enemy with 5 (on hit) damage, but never apply 8🔥 damage if used under unknown circumstances. it usually happens whenever you look in the floor to slide/prevent the fall. Also the interesting moment - theres a significantly higher chance of you hitting an enemy with flame tornado if you aim at opponents head, to dash slightly above the ground. it does trigger both 5 on hit damage and 8🔥 damage. I assume it happens because fire damage hitbox is lower than the regular players hitbox, and by the same logic it can sometimes NOT apply fire damage.

8?. fire does not stack. i want to warn that im not sure about this one, and i may be lying but thats at least what seems happened to me. if you, suppose, hit an enemy with your ult (16🔥) and then fist punch him (3🔥) the fire status effect will get updated, and total damage will be a lot less than it should. maybe im tweaking, but i couldnt actually test it out in /pf and i got no one to test it out in custom
ill trust sockmower and believe that fire should stack, so the issue is not actual

text wall jumpscare

[eager grotto]

ARGH!

fire should stack, by the way

[dusty temple]

wth

[fading ether]

thats why i typed im not sure about this one

okay nice

[dusty temple]

whip dont do fire? odd
i remember i regen health on them

agree on 3(i mentioned it in day 1)

based feedback in total

[fading ether]

i love new gawrick

[fading ether]

i never noticed it applying fire damage

like, never

[eager grotto]

lol ok gawrick might need a nerf

[fading ether]

we were running gawrick + hailey so we were pretty much unkillable

its still hard as hell to hit the shots but new blackhole is satisfying

[eager grotto]

so, here's the problem with theo's LMB ignite

[fading ether]

so 3 damage instead of 5 is not intented

[eager grotto]

no

hm

what do i want to do here

[fading ether]

more damage than irlocks lbm 🙏

[eager grotto]

thing is

it does heal you for 5

[fading ether]

since gawricks update is already out probably the gawrick thing

its broken af

18 minute match and i died only once (the other one was skill issue fall death)

[fading ether]

never really noticed it

[eager grotto]

ok gawrick's self healing is going

sorry guys

[fading ether]

i'd honestly prefer more damage over 2hp heal per lbm..

does gawrick could self heal?

[eager grotto]

his main attack heals himself

[opal zealot]

You means the gleamsphere can heal him?

Or his dash?

I'm a bit confused here

[eager grotto]

gleamsphere

[dusty temple]

😭 ok

[eager grotto]

it's ok you have a while until the next patch

[opal zealot]

What about his passive? It remains the same?

[eager grotto]

yes

[opal zealot]

Okie

[dusty temple]

It’s wild that we have 3 patch at the same time rn

And you randomly go into one when you pf

[opal zealot]

I think we really need new map tho

[eager grotto]

unfortunately i have no builders at my disposal

[opal zealot]

Playing the same map over and over is not quite refreshing

[swift storm]

No I have to play

It's required by law unfortunately

[opal zealot]

Forcing to school be like:

[swift storm]

Has fhe irlok nerf rolled out

[fading ether]

great ult usage (???)

[eager grotto]

yes

on some servers

[swift storm]

Any initial feedback

Is the game fun again

Also how do u guys play Gawrick

I feel like my sprint zoom thing never works

Do I need to always hold a

W

[dusty temple]

Insane ult

[fading ether]

happened like 7 times this game

???

[eager grotto]

what am i looking at

oh your ult got eaten

erm

[dusty temple]

yum

[eager grotto]

working on test servers 🤔

[fading ether]

sound of ult usage was heard somewhere from afar, and sometimes i even heard people getting pulled in it as well as rays

but it never pulled anyone

i assume it spawns the blackhole somewhere else than it should be

this bug was even before the gawricks changes tho

[eager grotto]

was gunna say i havent touched the ult code in weeks

[fading ether]

hm

does post-euclidean even does something

gawricks passive

[eager grotto]

yeah it does

[fading ether]

i mean, for it to work somehow decently you need to continuously sprint over 9 seconds if i get it correctly?

[eager grotto]

yes

[fading ether]

is it possible to make a trail behind sprinting gawricks, visible only to teammates? so people would know that they can benefit from it as well

[terse shuttle]

That ult eating has happened to me too

[fading ether]

the effect itself seems really niche just because of the time required to max it

tho i love the idea

[terse shuttle]

I feel like these numbers can be pulled off with other classes too, and garlic needs some actual skill to use

[fading ether]

1 heal per second sounds nice but at the point you get this effect its just better to run to the medkit

[terse shuttle]

• self hela is going

[fading ether]

yes but gawricks is hard to kill because of the speed movement + two teleports

self heal makes him really annoying

[fading ether]

if you add hailey to this combo you'll result in something like this

[terse shuttle]

Yeah

[terse shuttle]

Thats why its going away

Self heal could be removed from passive too for all i care

[fading ether]

the only counter to this is to pick tanks which both hailey and gawrick cant really damage

[terse shuttle]

Theo hailey garwick is evil though

[fading ether]

weaking already the most weak passive

[terse shuttle]

Yeah 👍

[terse shuttle]

I mean if you removed the passive the speed would be gone

Then it would kinda suck to play

[fading ether]

i never really sprint over 9s straight honestly

[vocal palm]

this is your fault sockmower

[fading ether]

additional +20% ws sounds nice but requirement is too high

[terse shuttle]

Doesn't it gradually build up tho?

[fading ether]

but drains rapidly if stopped

[eager grotto]

many such cases folks

[terse shuttle]

yes

[fading ether]

i mean, idk, probably not

[terse shuttle]

I feel like garlic will be decently balanced after gleamsphere self heal is removed

If you don't know what you're doing your only purpose is just stalling, really

And knowing what to do and doing it takes a bit of skill with garwick

[fading ether]

gawrick is like a vulture

running around the entire site to find people with below 30 hp

[terse shuttle]

Or you can actually damage people when there's no one low

But yeah

[fading ether]

i LOVE hitting theoricks barrier with the attack i was winding up 5 seconds

krill issue i guess

[terse shuttle]

Yeah

Well anyway my original point stands: yeah remove gleamsphere self heal but nerfing garlic more is not cool

[eager grotto]

im just removing the self heal from gleam

[fading ether]

my original point in this thread was to fix rick lmao

[terse shuttle]

Fix rick

[fading ether]

but yeah, he seems cool with the all changes considering self heal is gone

will still need test runs to see about it

[eager grotto]

how's ricke feeling right now

too strong? too weak?

[fading ether]

hes feeling fairly mid, a lot weaker than wall-slamming irlock but because of the heals and quick charging super can sustain a long time in fights

it feels weird that rick, being melee brawler, have less hp than irlock with easy escapes/mobility

[steel stone]

The whip feels pretty useless other than for its damage

[fading ether]

you can torture a lot of classes if u manage to chain a lot of hits in a row

[fading ether]

usually, yes,

[bright rapids]

imo his ult is a lot weaker than the other ults

[fading ether]

but it personally helped a lot of times to prevent people from escaping,

[bright rapids]

It rarely gets decent value

[fading ether]

or just whipping people out

[fading ether]

if it hits you 1-2 times as dps youre pretty much dead

and yeah, its nor very strong

thats why it have 1.5 charge rate

32 damage and 16 heals sound really nice

usually if i use it i instantly get 30-60% back because of the damage

[bright rapids]

yeaa

I once popped like 7 of them in 30 seconds

still feels kinda weak especially if your opponents are half decent

Tom and irlock ults have a lot more impact

[fading ether]

i mean

irlock ult have a lot more aoe impact

toms laser is just better version of fireball

being able to twoshot practically everybody

or use as a great finisher

[swift storm]

Idk what class to play now

[bright rapids]

@solar rain

oopsies

[swift storm]

I want smth skilled but not like Tom cause I can't aim

Maybe Gawrick but I don't understand his strategy

[fading ether]

just fix the balls hitbox 🙏

[steel stone]

Maybe make ricks ult a bit faster

As in the projectile

[fading ether]

1. run around as annoying fly
2. hit nukes for 30 damage
3. sometimes heal teammate and zone points with blackhole
4. repeat

[solar rain]

Thanks

[swift storm]

Does my movement have to be just w

Cause if I try and back up it kills post Euclidean right

[bright rapids]

hi!!!

[fading ether]

you should be sneaky so enemies wont focus you

but yeah pretty much

[sturdy quartz]

ehh it's less gawrick being sneaky and more a pain to kill.

[swift storm]

Just zoom zoom ?

[fading ether]

the effect is really niche, idk about it

[sturdy quartz]

like every time with gawrick it's just "jesus christ go away"

[swift storm]

Do I charge my right click while I'm running

[fading ether]

thats why i mentioned "annoying fly"

[fading ether]

yes

[indigo patrol]

i love you

[solar rain]

Hii!

[swift storm]

Gleamsphwre is the right click right

Gawrick main time

[sturdy quartz]

i will be honest though.
Hailey and rickeo are the only 2 classes with self heal that feel... fair?

[swift storm]

Irlok

[sturdy quartz]

Irlok i'm sorry but the freerunner is just an extra reward on top of all the rewards.

[swift storm]

Also Dr legendary mech over health

[fading ether]

hailey dont really have self heal tbh

[sturdy quartz]

she does.

[solar rain]

Gawrick zoom

[sturdy quartz]

her ultimate.

[fading ether]

oh right

[eager grotto]

30 self heal on ultimate is fine i think idk

[fading ether]

yeah its hella rewarding to pop it when necessary

[sturdy quartz]

yeah no it's completely fair

[eager grotto]

we never did change the hailey ult sound did we lmao

i made that shitty jingle as a placeholder manually

[swift storm]

Hailey ult feels like good and skillful

[sturdy quartz]

it's hailey's main sustain and it's not unbalanced, although nearly killing the hailey only for them to pop it is annoying

[swift storm]

It's like zenyatta

[sturdy quartz]

it's like "goddamn it nearly had you"

[fading ether]

i love how hailey can negate all nukes

just pop it right before irlock slams you lmao!!!

[sturdy quartz]

irlok's ult getting negated by hailey is always funny

[fading ether]

you still get knocked away i think

[indigo patrol]

is richo achive fixed yet?

[sturdy quartz]

yeah but it's pretty funny to just hear it back behind a wall and then go invincible

[fading ether]

achieve?

[sturdy quartz]

rickeo's also balanced though because it's simple to counter but rewarding to use

[indigo patrol]

achivement

[fading ether]

oh

i dont think so

[eager grotto]

should be i think

[fading ether]

oh?

[indigo patrol]

this one

oh

[fading ether]

time to play perfectly

[indigo patrol]

i can get all today

[eager grotto]

on new servers anyway

i hope

[indigo patrol]

i can test

[eager grotto]

i couldnt get anyone on to test 😭

[indigo patrol]

just hit one person then sleep

[fading ether]

im #1 irlocks shout C site hater

[swift storm]

Can I just heal once then switch off

[fading ether]

this thing goes through columns

my bad

[indigo patrol]

mabye

il try

[eager grotto]

you cant switch

[fading ether]

just heal once and go afk

[swift storm]

I need to find some skilless enemies to farm 15 killstreak

[sturdy quartz]

same. People doubted me when i said it ignores walls

[fading ether]

strategy

[swift storm]

This the method

[sturdy quartz]

but yeah the amount of times i've hid behind the wall and nope

[fading ether]

also the stairs on B and D sites

since they're fences they get ignored i think?

[eager grotto]

shooting and LOS checks should be fully geometrically accurate

[swift storm]

It kinda sucks when points go like c b c b c b them they win on the middle c

[sturdy quartz]

i've hid behind walls and it still does not care.

[eager grotto]

i dont think irlok ult checks LOS

[sturdy quartz]

also from under my feet on the roof's.

[swift storm]

Cause like you won the c site 3/4 times and they were only winning when it was close to them but they win c once and get it yk

[fading ether]

i assume it happens when you're behind the walls that have any exposures around you

like not too wide or have a gap above

[eager grotto]

oh right i remember

[fading ether]

this does not say me anything

[eager grotto]

the original way it was written it was doing like 80000 LOS checks per usage

[fading ether]

right

[eager grotto]

ok so I think it's doing a line-of-sight check on the damage only, but not the knockback

[fading ether]

if you can easily win C site you pretty much win the game

[eager grotto]

can anyone confirm

[fading ether]

way too risky because one come back can turn the entire game around tho

[fading ether]

did you fixed it now

[eager grotto]

no it's always done this afaict

[fading ether]

the times this happened it inflicted both damage and kb

usually it killed me when i was on 20 hp and prayed behind the wall

[eager grotto]

odd

oh wait i know what it is

[sturdy quartz]

no cause it's outright killed me sometimes

[eager grotto]

yeah i know what it is

i think

[sturdy quartz]

literally only counter to the ult was being so confusing with your movements cause of it xD

[fading ether]

gawrick is so heehee against irlocks ult

like i got 2 teleports dude what are you gonna do about it

rick can escape with tornado but it still takes way too much time

or just dash through ulting irlock

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dusty temple]

irlok getting more nerf!?

[fading ether]

i think its just fixing the way his ability is working

and its working not as intented

[dusty temple]

that also did to freerunner and its a nerf i'd say

[fading ether]

yes but freerunner also got direct nerf (5 heal -> 3 heal)

[fading ether]

i think you can pretty much call it a nerf as well

because, well, it is

(kinda)

if this thing gets patched irlocks ult is going to be A LOT harder to use on C site

[dusty temple]

the ult will be lot weaker if it can not does half piercing walls ngl

[eager grotto]

• Irlok's ultimate now properly respects line of sight

[fading ether]

i want to check how its fixed now but its 11pm

and i need to mimir

[fading ether]

can we get rickeo whip fix 🙏

[eager grotto]

whats wrong with it

[fading ether]

it does not apply fire

just does plain 6 dmg

[eager grotto]

oh

well

it actually does apply fire but it does it all in one tick

[indigo patrol]

GG

All achivements

[eager grotto]

oh wait no it doesn't the script is fucked lmao

[fading ether]

i never recall to heal from it tho

yeahhhh

[fading ether]

gg

i have 3 achievements left

ricks heal, toms trickshot, and escape fall death by dr li

[eager grotto]

• Fixed an issue relating to ricke's whip

[fading ether]

nice.

[dusty temple]

ricke

[fading ether]

i kinda want to push maximum out of ricke but im afraid he might end up as irlock

being everyones-hating meta

heck, am self hating facing rick against because of the annoying fire lmao

[vocal palm]

honestly of all the placeholder stuff in the game, that jingle is pretty good

[swift storm]

What class did yall get 15 kill streak 😭

Pre nerf irlok?

[dusty temple]

Pre nerf irlok

[eager grotto]

theres not THAT much placeholder stuff left

[vocal palm]

hailey's meal turned out to be placeholder

quint made a mob for it and then never hooked it up

[swift storm]

Half the defend objectives in lootruns look like placeholders

The sanitizing robots one looks ai generated ngl it's js a bunch of random weapon skins

[fading ether]

current gawrick is really decent

[indigo patrol]

ultrakill?

[swift storm]

Imma start playing him

[indigo patrol]

lemmie find smth

[fading ether]

also probably tom (just dont get risky and greedy)

[swift storm]

I have no aim cause trackpad

[dusty temple]

Dr leg if you knows how to play

[fading ether]

i forgor

[indigo patrol]

pre buff gawick btw

[dusty temple]

And have a healer would be better

[swift storm]

How do u do this

[indigo patrol]

gawick my goat

[fading ether]

aka rocket backshots

[indigo patrol]

i just play health packs

he is strong

i havent tried new gawick

he is prob crazy now

highest skill ceiling

i'd say

[dusty temple]

yeah

[fading ether]

he is very strong but missing a shot cost too much

so you need not to get skill issued every 5 seconds

[dusty temple]

Honestly I just predict where enemies gonna move and shoot fireworks there I don’t really get how to backshot

[fading ether]

constant skill checks

[dusty temple]

Half of my time in mech is just shooting my feets

[fading ether]

fairly with rockets abuse you can nuke up to 70 hp if all projectiles hit

which is not happening a lot

[swift storm]

Like u js run around?

R u always sprinting

[fading ether]

dr li is still have a good skill ceiling

[indigo patrol]

no reason to stop sprinting

[fading ether]

but theorick is just easier and better usually

[dusty temple]

nuke up a tom

[indigo patrol]

like ever

[swift storm]

And how do u do damage do h charge when ur sprinting

[indigo patrol]

charge and shotgun some poor kid

[eager grotto]

im not super happy with the dr li nuke

[indigo patrol]

shoot him then tp for like a 41 burst combo

[fading ether]

doesnt your sprint run out eventually

[eager grotto]

also i think his ults are kinda trash lol

[dusty temple]

I always enter mech with a flying packet so I don’t skill issue

[swift storm]

Do u full charge

[indigo patrol]

idk u get sprint stuff in the modes

[indigo patrol]

always

using at any less than like 4s is worthless

[swift storm]

Alr imma play some games with Gawrick see how it goes

[indigo patrol]

unless your following up on a kill

[fading ether]

yeah but you still need to afk 1-2 seconds to fully recharge it

[swift storm]

So u can never press s right u gotta always be holding w?

[vocal palm]

we could make it maintain sprint forever

[swift storm]

And when do u use the shift if ever

[indigo patrol]

idk it hasent been a issue for me

[indigo patrol]

you should

[indigo patrol]

yeah

if u need to stand still just run in a small circle

[swift storm]

Alr

[dusty temple]

Auto sprint usage

[swift storm]

I use toggle yea

[fading ether]

insane

[fading ether]

it shreds in crampy spaces

but yeah

[dusty temple]

Fireworks usually just limit the space and shockwave don’t really hit enemies yeah

[sturdy quartz]

peak tom gameplay

[fading ether]

for 0.8x charge rate its way too few to offer

[dusty temple]

280heal the healpack grabber

[fading ether]

me excitedly running to the medkit: 15s cooldown

nefarious healpack grabber;

[swift storm]

What are the overwatch comparisons

Dr li is diva, theorick is Winston, irlok is genji, Tom is Mccree, Gawrick is symmetra, Hailey is mercy?

Idk who rickeo is similar to

Roadhog pull ig but ricks is worthless

[fading ether]

reaper

[sturdy quartz]

it's tom xD how else do i heal?

[fading ether]

i just came to the new ricks ult idea but

it ended up being another zone control ult

[eager grotto]

new dr LI mech ult concept

[fading ether]

like igniting the floor in wide radius, applying 3🔥/1s every 0.8s

[swift storm]

Like torbjorn ult

[eager grotto]

another zone control ult 🔥🔥💯

[fading ether]

yeah thats why i dont like it

[eager grotto]

i originally had a concept for a ricke ult where you'd turn into a fuckin phoenix and itd replace all your abilities and be super cool and shit

[fading ether]

csn you be killed while in this ult

[swift storm]

Can Tom shift be different it feels like his whole kit does the same thing

[eager grotto]

then i decided that would be annoying to make

[swift storm]

Maybe some kind of roll mechanic that reloads his gun perchance

Maybe some sort of flashbang

[fading ether]

i feel like tom is lacking movement

i mean, 15 damage per hit is no laughing matter

but you can straight up bully tom melee as pretty much anyone

[swift storm]

Yea

[fading ether]

or any escape

[swift storm]

I also feel like I'm so low on ammo whenever someone jumps me that I can't shotgun away

[fading ether]

like getting vanish bomb as his shift

[swift storm]

Also shotgun spread is still so bad

[elfin garnet]

Tom cooks dr li if they have two brain cells but that might jus be bc of the bigger mech hit ox

[fading ether]

me when ability called "shotgun" nukes me for 45 hp from 20 blocks

[eager grotto]

manage your ammo

[fading ether]

wise decision to be made

fair enough

i actually like playing against good toms

[swift storm]

Shotgun is more like quadruple shot

[swift storm]

When they get really good tho it's insane

Like former quake players js devastate teams

[sturdy quartz]

tom's shift i think even the CT agree sucks.

and the shotgun is good for mobility

[vocal palm]

if tom's shift was aoe maybe it would be ok

[eager grotto]

yea tom's shift is kinda garbagio

[sturdy quartz]

it's got decent damage... but i'm sorry hitting that at close range is a bit too close for comfort

[fading ether]

:3

[sturdy quartz]

i'm either hoping the enemy is running at me or im just point blank behind them

[fading ether]

tom is not supposed to be melee fighter, so offering a way to escape other dps without granting good movement is relevant i think

[sturdy quartz]

shotgun jump

[swift storm]

It's also weird when Tom camps high ground as sniper

[sturdy quartz]

and peppers everyone with bullets

[eager grotto]

tom's quad shot is actually intended as a movement ability really, not a damage one

[sturdy quartz]

it does work as a damage tbf

[eager grotto]

as a fun development fact, it used to be on shift, not rmb

hindersnare and the quad shot swapped places half way through development

[sturdy quartz]

i honestly just use the shotgun but moment i get a feeling someone's heading my way i reload and play it more defensively

[swift storm]

Makes sense

I wish he had fan the hammer

[fading ether]

i have too few time played on tom to actually talk about this one

i assume yeah, thats how you do it

[eager grotto]

im just happy people are enjoying the minigame

[eager grotto]

gratz, btw

I assume you're the first

did you do it all in public lobbies?

[sturdy quartz]

yeah if you jump when you shotgun you take all the kb.

and since you get 8 bullets it's enough kb to escape

If only we had a melee to market garden

[eager grotto]

guys believe it or not I've unironically never played overwatch or tf2

[sturdy quartz]

unbelievable 😭

[terse shuttle]

by far probably (also garlic is good now please dont change it anymore!!!!1)

[eager grotto]

his self healing from gleamsphere is going im sorry to say

[elfin garnet]

nope!

[swift storm]

I'm gonna play exclusively garlic until mythic trinket

[swift storm]

Let him have it for like a week so the garlic enjoyers can have their glory days js like irlok mains

🙏

[fading ether]

i, to my great sadge, played overwatch, and i didnt really liked it

but this minigame is a lot of fun

[swift storm]

It has rly good replayability

Like btb was fun first couple of times cause it was so novel but then survivor become kinda boring

But this game I can keep playing over and over cause so many matchups yk

https://tenor.com/view/beggar-mendiant-emoji-meme-gif-14766354842854086359

[fading ether]

it honestly tires me more than btb

[swift storm]

Irlok players rn

[fading ether]

probably becayse i have big dbd experience before

but

[swift storm]

Ye

Idk I js feel like btb like 90% of playtime is downtime

[fading ether]

brawl tires you with that its fps, you need to aim and stuff

btb tires you with constant thinking

[swift storm]

It's super fun on spirit or when ur juking spirit but when ur js sitting and powering a well for a minute it's iffy

[fading ether]

nefarious dbd skill checks

[vocal palm]

btb is kind of a slower game

[swift storm]

It's the Tcc of minigames

Peak gameplay too much downtime

I don't know how I feel about battle for bonfire but it does feel much harder to carry than these other 2

[indigo patrol]

yeah

[fading ether]

the same issue as dbd

[swift storm]

What's the heroes minigame

[indigo patrol]

i had to afk for last one cause ricko is practically impossible to do "legit"

[fading ether]

as a killer you need to hold a gazillion things in mind and actually tryhard

as a survivor you rbm the well
and goes afk

[indigo patrol]

also like

the buff might be a little to strong

[swift storm]

Survivor it's like ok I'm sitting by this well now my heartbeat is going off so I'm going to walk away

[swift storm]

Nuh uh it's fine

[indigo patrol]

im 90% if u time your tp right you can self heal which i am all down for

[swift storm]

I mean I do want the game to be balanced

[elfin garnet]

guhrick

[swift storm]

So I'm down for garlic nerf

[indigo patrol]

he has a high skill ceiling tbf tho

[elfin garnet]

also 26 shards 🥴

[swift storm]

Imma play him always

[indigo patrol]

i have like 11 hours on him rn 🙏

[swift storm]

Shadestepper do u have the mythic already

Is it still bugged

[elfin garnet]

surely it'll be fine with self heal gone

[indigo patrol]

im at like 24

[fading ether]

its not patched yet i think

[indigo patrol]

nuh uh

self heal is intentional

[elfin garnet]

:3

[swift storm]

I'm at 12 with all other collectibles

[elfin garnet]

it is getting nuked tho

so womp womp!

[indigo patrol]

D:

[fading ether]

yeah but like catch it first WRYOOOMMM

[swift storm]

Garlic will still be good and high skill ceiling after the nuke

[indigo patrol]

its fine either way

[elfin garnet]

womp womp go back to hp pack spam

it's fine anyways yeah

[indigo patrol]

healh packs my beloved

health*

i cant type today

[swift storm]

How much will this mythic be worth

[elfin garnet]

me

[dim raptor]

what the fuck did they do to gawrick

[swift storm]

Like 9stx?

[elfin garnet]

proj not that much

[swift storm]

I'm debating grinding 2

[indigo patrol]

he has peirce and can heal

[dim raptor]

doom

[indigo patrol]

he is like useable now

[fading ether]

a lot of buffs, too many

[elfin garnet]

this minigame shits out shards

[indigo patrol]

nahhh

its fine

[fading ether]

by too many i mean the self heal

other things are def fine

[indigo patrol]

the self heal isnt to broken

[elfin garnet]

lik I'm nearly at a mythic with all the good utility trinkets and a ton of blasters

[swift storm]

Like 6stx then

[dim raptor]

For real I don't want gawrick to be good

[indigo patrol]

its like 12hp every 9s

[swift storm]

What are we thinking

[indigo patrol]

and u have to sac tp and fully charge attack

[swift storm]

This game is lowk so fun

[elfin garnet]

this minigam givs twice the amnt of btb and has faster games and a larger audience and mask is lik 10?

[indigo patrol]

imo remove self heal and he is fine but i dont think it makes a massive impact

[elfin garnet]

so this is proj like 5

[swift storm]

Imma try and get every trinket twice

And then bunch of blasters

[swift storm]

Ok

[indigo patrol]

its about like 3 shards an hour if u use partyfinder

so its like

[swift storm]

I'll wait for like 5 months before selling tho

[fading ether]

if players wont focus you youre unkillable, and if they does they are very exposed for other your teammates

[indigo patrol]

48/3

[dim raptor]

Chasing gawrick for 2 minutes and at the end he's still at full hp

[indigo patrol]

true but legit 1 haily or 1 theorik and you cant play the game

peirce doesnt go through shields

[fading ether]

do gawricks passive 1.5 heal /1s and remove the self heal

[indigo patrol]

^

[inland pier]

the gawrick buff is kind of crazy rn wtf

[indigo patrol]

id be down for this

[indigo patrol]

nah i just mogged you last game

[swift storm]

How much is salted poo worth

[fading ether]

wanna try it

?

[fading ether]

yeah the main counter is just go tanks

[indigo patrol]

i think irlock can counter if u get hit

[fading ether]

but usually people wont run more than 1 tank/ 1 support per team

[indigo patrol]

but they have to full run you

[indigo patrol]

true

[elfin garnet]

double tank pfinder 🔥

[indigo patrol]

dr LI is also an issue

overhealth is so 💀

[fading ether]

irlock still can stunlock you

[elfin garnet]

overhealth nuking overkill dmg for entire tram is nice I thought only mech did that

[dim raptor]

Genuinely can't play li because his ult drops frames to 1

[fading ether]

mech just gives you extra health equiavalent to the mechas hp

i assume

[dim raptor]

And rmb drops frames to 10

[indigo patrol]

does it?

[fading ether]

/particles low?

[elfin garnet]

yeah

[fading ether]

i dont remember the exact command

[elfin garnet]

yeah :3

[elfin garnet]

nom nom

[fading ether]

dr li is a great support and tank

but theorick, well, have a barrier

[elfin garnet]

the support fr a bonus if u get jumped without being able to swap to mech by a dps its kinda gg unless u have heli

theorkc barrier My behated

[fading ether]

yeah but you have two out of jail cards

and they're quickly recharging as well

i think everyone agrees that theo barrier is very unpleasant to face against

but i think it should stay this way

[swift storm]

The uptime right now is reasonable

[elfin garnet]

I think theo is fine yeha

[swift storm]

It feels like js under half the time

It used to be like 90% uptime before nerf

[sturdy quartz]

tbf even as a tom it's just a small delay for me

i just end up poking anyone outside of it or after it ends

[elfin garnet]

mech is only a get out of jail free card with enug hp and heli requires u to have a charge which is kind of hard to do close range for some reason(prob skilissue)

[spring steppe]

at first glance slight kb on main attack sounds a little strong

kills dashes and gawrick speed for one

[sturdy quartz]

dr li is a threat to melee classes mostly

ranged classes can kinda deal with him well funnily enough

[fossil saffron]

It'd be like a little stagger

plus you'd have to be aware, he uses a halberd in a hunter's calling so I thought it was a little bit sensible

[fading ether]

oi

accidentsly mistyped "night" and got warning

good night chat

[elfin garnet]

womp

[last geode]

what if we add thos individual into the minigame instead

[swift storm]

Make the eye a playable character

[eager grotto]

moveset?

[umbral junco]

yo why does irlok dash just hold you in the air now

[forest jungle]

Lads is rickeo vaguely viable now

[eager grotto]

it's a bit bugged

[forest jungle]

Have gawrick and rickeo both escaped bottom tier

[shy spoke]

Ty for the gawrick buff

Haven't tested it out yet but will do now

[wispy dawn]

So this happened (possibly one of the enemy team's players leaving mid-match?)

[eager grotto]

dog gammit

[terse shuttle]

That happens a lot

(Also garlic isnt too strong when self heal is removed, it's skill that gets the good numbers)

[wispy dawn]

@eager grotto hey it gets worse

my spells weren't working even after /kill

so I had to /class

:D

[eager grotto]

e

[terse shuttle]

Moveset cooking begins

[forest jungle]

I feel like adding what is explicitly an SE character / mob to any minigame is pretty bad of an idea since it's meant to be secret or smth and lvl 10s can play the mode

[terse shuttle]

Blinder, but ult turns you into fool eater!!

[forest jungle]

Chat is this real

[terse shuttle]

Btw i dont think "Blinder" will give any spoilers really

[spring steppe]

it spoils the environment

[terse shuttle]

Thats true tho

[forest jungle]

Genuinely what icon would it have besides an eye

[sturdy quartz]

SE creatures are more btb and that's already got zealot

[terse shuttle]

Fool eater should be a btb spirit tho

Wait no

Def not

[forest jungle]

I mean yeah BtB does have zealot and ||aledar from ahc (?)||

[terse shuttle]

How did you make a spoiler again

[forest jungle]

I kinda forgot about terror entirely

[forest jungle]

||

[sturdy quartz]

no just ||dead aledar||

[forest jungle]

Alr

Still se related

[terse shuttle]

Final quest spoilers!!!
||Heard that aledar in btb is like a remnant of his soul or something stupid||

Holy fuck

[forest jungle]

Two of the line

Each side

[terse shuttle]

You did absolutely not see that lmaoo

[sturdy quartz]

BB is defintely the more light hearted kinda minor characters game?

[forest jungle]

Theorick is a small character

Very little lore relevance

[sturdy quartz]

like it's got 3 slightly more well known characters and even then theorick's probably the biggest of the 3.

[terse shuttle]

Who tf is rickeo tho

[sturdy quartz]

theorick's brother

[forest jungle]

Do the nesaak secret discoveries

[sturdy quartz]

also ||bane of the great bridge||

[forest jungle]

Also he's ||the bane of the great bridge||

[terse shuttle]

Oh yea

I literally forgot who he was lol

[sturdy quartz]

i'm so glad i noticed that instantly

"immediately went, i know you"

but yeah.
theorick is the most known there (surprised he's not in the heroes minigame tbh)
Legendary second but not everyone really knows him since he rarely shows up outside of dialogue and the island.
And then third is rickeo and that's more the lore people

[forest jungle]

Theorick is literally an entire like 10 levels worth of quest lore
Dr LI is relevant as a boss
Tom is from a removed quest
Rickeo is in one secret discovery and a world event
Irlok is in one quest
Gawrick is in one quest and the greatest side experience in Wynn
Hailey is in one quest

[last geode]

what class dps or support

i think of two different movesets

[sturdy quartz]

yeah theorick to me fit's more in the heroes side.

[forest jungle]

I played hero event minigame like twice

[sturdy quartz]

same. I think it has gale now?

[forest jungle]

And it seems like a very boring game if you aren't the best player in the lobby

[sturdy quartz]

Pretty much very tryhardy from what i experienced

[forest jungle]

Lends itself to curbstomping

Theorick is questionable if he's a hero though

[dim raptor]

genuinely what is theorick doing in an overwatch arena shooter, he has like 4 quests secret discoveries two dungeons and an entire biome

[forest jungle]

Though also the minigame has Lari right

[sturdy quartz]

tbf he does show traits in AHC and when he gets corrupted

[terse shuttle]

Item identifier as a snowverwatch class?

[forest jungle]

So hed fit right in

[sturdy quartz]

tisaun and siegfried as well

the first one gets mentioned in lore like... 4 times?

[dim raptor]

Also a handful of items, tisuan's honor off the top of my head

[terse shuttle]

Actually someone might find this "offensive" (so i edit it)

[forest jungle]

Tisuan has a chestplate, a spear, and idk

[spring steppe]

I mean is theorick considered a hero

[forest jungle]

Siegfried is uhm

Questionable

[dim raptor]

Honor/valor/proof

[sturdy quartz]

i'd say the same about siegfried. Like is it actually a hero

[spring steppe]

he did something good when we look at it from an outside perspective but at the same time the pottery wheel secret discovery

[forest jungle]

Yeah so theorick would fit right in

[spring steppe]

he has a statue so yeah kinda

[forest jungle]

Is the troms statue of skien

[sturdy quartz]

theorick's more of a ruthless mercenary but with a good side.

[forest jungle]

Genuine question

[dim raptor]

he's explicitly a fabrication though

[sturdy quartz]

i genuinely can never tell if siegfried EVER did anything heroic though

[spring steppe]

Siegfried was real at some point

[elfin garnet]

siegfried statue is prob jut for money'

[spring steppe]

oops

[elfin garnet]

liek marketing scheme

[spring steppe]

but yeah Siegfried was a real hero at some point according to the secret room

[elfin garnet]

we dunno if he even did anything or if he jus got gaslighted into existing fr

[dim raptor]

it's like putting batman in an essay about great man theory

[spring steppe]

and then they kept playing it out after he died

theorick treated nesaak horribly so he can't really be considered a hero

[shy spoke]

Add Lari to the minigame, so that I can constantly target and kill her

[spring steppe]

well this is not explicitly said but it can be implied

[sturdy quartz]

but also did gladly protect them against the player in AHC (Ik alternate timeline but still)
And felt bad about freezing them

[forest jungle]

Weren't there like three known heroic siegfrieds

[dim raptor]

idk, probably a bad idea to discuss lore written in 2014

[sturdy quartz]

siegfried got a quest a year or 2 ago

[terse shuttle]

Add the unreleased Wynn final boss as a playable class in the event

[spring steppe]

also as opposed to theorick Siegfried is seen as a hero by the general public

[dim raptor]

Did they, thought it was only hero of gavel and the junk merchants

[sturdy quartz]

the initial lore before hero of gavel was so bare bones it really didn't exist except from stuff he did.

but the grave was added at the same time as the quest.

[forest jungle]

Still why is theorick in this minigame instead of beloved fan favorite character Calamaro the squid

[elfin garnet]

TRUE

[sturdy quartz]

why tf did i know that character instantly

[terse shuttle]

Calamaro yoo

Crazy idea

[forest jungle]

i had to look up his name

[dim raptor]

Thought hero of gavel was old old

[sturdy quartz]

surprised worid isn't a character

[dim raptor]

It still runs on scripts and glue

[forest jungle]

Ultimate robs all your opponents em pouches they have on them

[sturdy quartz]

no it was nearly 4 years ago

[forest jungle]

Gives you the money

[elfin garnet]

wtf im old...

[dim raptor]

huh

[sturdy quartz]

yeah i heard my bones cracking when i saw 2021

[terse shuttle]

Worid ultimate:
Liquid emerald storm

• Throws liquid emeralds in random directions, if hit causes an uncurable illness dealing 50 poison damage over 20 seconds

[sturdy quartz]

Seaskipper should be in the game

[forest jungle]

Put him in heros

More of a hero than anyone there

[terse shuttle]

Seaskipper, worid, calamaro

Calamaro is kinda irreleveant so he would fit perfectly in this game

[sturdy quartz]

Is also in arguably the worst quest in this game

[forest jungle]

Literally I brought him up since he is from the weirdest quest ever and he does nothing and is in the same location as theorick

[terse shuttle]

Yeah it sucks balls lmao

[spring steppe]

underice is not that bad it's just old

[dim raptor]

realm of light is right there

[forest jungle]

Rol is slow, not pointless

[terse shuttle]

I mean look at Tom:

• From a remived quest
• Comes back with a gun and starts putting holes in people

[sturdy quartz]

realm of light isn't bad.

[forest jungle]

It establishes very relevant lore

[terse shuttle]

Rol is good for the first time

[dim raptor]

If it's the everlasting pufferfish quest I thought it was funny

[terse shuttle]

I want to kms when doing it for the sixth time

[forest jungle]

It is

[sturdy quartz]

how else would he of fought santa

[terse shuttle]

hmm

[dim raptor]

i had to play that shit thrice in a row and it really wears thin

[forest jungle]

When are we getting dwendle representation

[dim raptor]

It's an idiot plot through and through

[forest jungle]

Mael is in BtB, theorick and rickeo in BB

[sturdy quartz]

Dwendle in heroes

[dim raptor]

The 1/54 cutscene is draining

[terse shuttle]

Did it 4 times in a span of 2 weeks i feel you

[forest jungle]

!!

[sturdy quartz]

honestly for a quest to be considered bad it has to just suck overall. Design wise, rewards and playing through it.

[dim raptor]

i levelled 3 chars to 105 on 2.1 release and left nol unlock for last every time

[dim raptor]

A hunter's calling

[sturdy quartz]

hunters calling has good rewards

and some potentially amazing boss fights.. whenever that gets rekindled

[dim raptor]

rawspell filler armour and the ability to get murdered by linnyflower when proffing

[forest jungle]

Early game Wynn still struggles from being fetch quest-y

[sturdy quartz]

anyway. Mask salesman in blizzard brawl when?

[forest jungle]

Underice is a perfect example

[spring steppe]

if you stand inside someone as irlok and kick upwards can you knock them upward

[dim raptor]

No

[forest jungle]

This is why we need Calamaro

[spring steppe]

tragedy

[sturdy quartz]

his ult should be the kraken

[spring steppe]

are u just saying that or have u actually tried

[forest jungle]

I know a diagonal up hit works

As of day one

Haven't tried in a while

[dim raptor]

usually when trying to dash up and getting the dash eaten they move horizontal

[forest jungle]

No reason to try airblast up

[spring steppe]

on respawn in point c I like to save my harmony and I can get 5 really easily

so it would be really funny to punt someone into the sky

[forest jungle]

gongus do you play airblast irlok

[spring steppe]

what that

[dim raptor]

really annoying when you're against li and you try to slam abuse

[forest jungle]

Literally just using melee and then hitting people with max harmony charge

airblast

[spring steppe]

sometimes

[forest jungle]

It's so funny

[dim raptor]

tfw you miss charge and instantly die

[spring steppe]

that's why you hold slam for recovery

[dim raptor]

It's optimal on 2nd point though

[forest jungle]

Sacrifice I'm willing to make (slam usually saves me anyways)

[dim raptor]

i love unreactable instakill

[forest jungle]

airblast is such a dumb way to play the game

[still idol]

are there patch notes for the recent patch?

[forest jungle]

Lotta classes can either outrange irlok or survive airblast

[spring steppe]

even tom has offmap recovery

[dim raptor]

Did dash range get fixed?

[forest jungle]

irlok ditto sucks as airblast since he can survive almost every time

[dim raptor]

Typically 5 harmony charge sends them into the invisible wall

[forest jungle]

Gotta bait both of their resources and then time it well

[dim raptor]

and you can hit charge from midpoint healthpack until it gets fixed

Also mostly horizontal, found that pfinder never reacts to it

[sturdy quartz]

Oh my god it's that famous character from the hitgame blizzard brawl

[last geode]

slam is sometimes so ass for recovering

cuz you gain a bit of height and then you immediately fall down 100 km/h

[forest jungle]

Watch out he lives on a mountain and has been practicing airblast

[sturdy quartz]

remember seeing a hailey who would blast the irlok off the cliff just to force them to use their charge.

[dim raptor]

bring prenerf hailey blast back

[spring steppe]

yeah but I feel like if you get kicked that far away you deserve to die anyway

[dim raptor]

i want to send more theoricks into void

[forest jungle]

Hailey blast was so real

[sturdy quartz]

why did it get nerfed?

it was perfectly balanced

[dim raptor]

ct are big poopoos

[spring steppe]

erm

[forest jungle]

Symptom of Hailey being strongest character in the game

[sturdy quartz]

it was either they took loads of kb or none at all

there was 0 in between

[spring steppe]

that is exactly why

[dim raptor]

it's unhealthy to have an instakill button on a healer that's already strong

[spring steppe]

too much kb makes people clip on walls

[forest jungle]

I don't think rickeo survives airblast

[sturdy quartz]

tbf they still had to be at a cliff

so the enemy kinda learns "nope not going there"

[dim raptor]

and an instant getaway/antimelee

[last geode]

it is funny to do rmb + shift to deal an extra 40 damage after recovery

[dim raptor]

even then you could send an entire team off midpoint and get half a cap

[sturdy quartz]

Irlok in a nutshell

(i'm still salty that irlok's ult ignores blocks)

[dim raptor]

irlok ult but on a 8 second cd

[sturdy quartz]

and a quarter of the kb.

[loud ravine]

Uhh is there a changelog

[eager grotto]

not any particularly cohesive one

[umbral junco]

why does irlok's dash just like suspend you in air now

or might be lag idk

dashed not very far and then just it hovered me in air for like 2 seconds every time i dashed

[eager grotto]

it's not supposed to lol

something is borked with it

[orchid skiff]

so the trinkets are gonna be festival limited and not be on isles of fiction right

(well, exchangable ones)

[vocal palm]

theo was a planned hero for heroes originally

[vocal palm]

yes

[umbral junco]

gotcha

[orchid skiff]

these hover boosters are gonna be making bank for people that suck at eo parkour

8minute to fly 4 parkours...

[faint wharf]

laggy games are the worst

im stuck down here as Tom lol

[swift storm]

you get to look at the other players

u cant move tho

ultimate is raining down the eyes

[shy spoke]

I love the new Gawrick buff

[eager grotto]

lol

nerf inbound btw!

how is the balance feeling after the irlok nerf

actually

better idea

everyone send me an image with this https://tiermaker.com/create/wynncraft-blizzard-brawl-characters-17706495 based on power level

(the images are gawrick, hailey, dr li, irlok, rickeo, theo, tom in that order)

[orchid skiff]

done

every 1 of the classes are fun :3

[elfin garnet]

true

[eager grotto]

lol thanks

but in terms of power level

[orchid skiff]

@jolly linden D:

[spring steppe]

I'm not qualified to make this list I only play gawrick irlok tom

[elfin garnet]

i havent played with irlok nerfs but hes prob still groated
dr li is me being biased hes prob close to new gawrick
rickeo is ehh vro does not have enough hp or dmg to cook but the ult can nuke everthing if u bug it out or use it in an enclosed space
theo is just funny kb and shield idt he has that much dmg or other utility

shield is nice tho but u can jut go inside it for the most part

[orchid skiff]

linny the server fucked up

it requeued into another game lmfao

[elfin garnet]

womp

[tawdry zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897193043004899379/1313925944817225819/holy_cookies.gif

[eager grotto]

thanks

very informative i think

[gusty snow]

no problem sockmower

[elfin garnet]

you are glazy

[shy spoke]

From what I've experienced, Tom is absurdly good in the right hands. Theorick is really good for countering Tom, Gawrick and Dr Legendary, and is just really good for holding down the point. Gawrick is just extremely difficult to kill. Irlok is fine atm

And the other 3 I don't have that much experience on but they seem, mediocre to me

Especially Dr Legendary