Blizzard Brawl Official Feedback Thread

[spring steppe]

sounds also really hard to make

[sturdy quartz]

yeah it'd probably have some stupid combo's

[eager grotto]

i do think

it would be funny to make a COD airstrike ult

[dark cloud]

hell yeah

[spring steppe]

erm Dr legendary is right thrre

elder astal but make him more earth themed as opposed to fire so you don't create redundancy with rickeo

as a tank

[shrewd willow]

tf2 spy

[sturdy quartz]

that mimic monster does exist.

the thing in general orders.

[spring steppe]

the human villager hybrid guy could be TF2 spy but that also might be quest spoilers for new people

[sturdy quartz]

use the general orders one

[shrewd willow]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-spy-spy-tf2-tf2spy-gif-19741465

[sturdy quartz]

the one that literally copies people. Poorly but does it xD

[spring steppe]

that feels more like a btb killer but maybe

[sturdy quartz]

tbh it felt way too comedic for me to consider it for btb

[spring steppe]

I feel like there's also a good opportunity for a "joke" character similar to the vermin

giant squid or something

[sturdy quartz]

yeah fair. I feel like a tf2 spy style class would be very funny though. (although might be impossible due to the name tags)

[dark cloud]

if you want a joke character just add aledar

[spring steppe]

item identifier

[shrewd willow]

YES

HOLY SHIT

BRILLIANT

[sturdy quartz]

obviously not an insta kill from behind but it does heavy damage for a single hit.

[dark cloud]

so.. shadestepper

[sturdy quartz]

yeah but there's not many ways to make a class that behaves like tf2 spy good

without just going "shadestepper"

[dark cloud]

so we just add aledar shadestepper ala tf2 spy

which is also hilarious since he is canonically dead

[sturdy quartz]

there's options

there's the villager hybrid guy.
You got the general orders monster which literally copies people

[dark cloud]

could ofcourse just add bak'al

[shrewd willow]

shadow aledar is already btb killer

[sturdy quartz]

bak'al i'm surprised isn't in btb yet

[shrewd willow]

therck

he hates christmas so he has to ruin fun for others!

[sturdy quartz]

so scrooge

[shrewd willow]

or something

[spring steppe]

u can already invite thereck to detlas

not like there's a rule against reusing characters tho

[shrewd willow]

don't you invite yahya too

[spring steppe]

no he's just there

but same thing

the bigger issue I would say is having a fitting and cohesive kit that doesn't copy someone elses

[sturdy quartz]

surprised we don't also have dwendle with his wind powers.

get all the elemental twains involved

[spring steppe]

like elder astal for example could have a solid wall like mei from overwatch

[dark cloud]

gale would be a cooler character with wind powers

she's at the festival anyway

[shrewd willow]

add giant boulder throw

to new class

[spring steppe]

sigma

my ult idea of making the ground lava is kinda similar to Theo though

I guess it could be sockmowers idea of an airstrike similar to molten heights meteor rain

[sturdy quartz]

gale is defintely more of a hero in all honesty

[spring steppe]

but again we already have Dr legendary ult

[shrewd willow]

hmmm maybe something like nunu ultimate?

[spring steppe]

erm why isn't that theos ult

maybe tho lol

[shrewd willow]

idk

[spring steppe]

there's too much mobility for it to be a threat I would think tho

[shrewd willow]

could be theo ult and then you can reuse it for somewhere else

[shrewd willow]

zoning off enemies at worst

[spring steppe]

maybe an earthquake tht ripples outward like grootslang that knocks up and slows enemies

[shrewd willow]

add king of rodoroc

[dark cloud]

man's going to add wynn royale king of ragni vs king of rodoroc 😔

[spring steppe]

elder astal/korzim
lmb: defend elder astal beam (shorter range)
rmb: throw rock, brief stun (sigma rock)
shift: solid straight/curved wall (mei wall)
ult: shockwave (circular or directional?) knocks up/slows

[spring steppe]

that's a predator missile sir

[sturdy quartz]

why tf are you watching doctor who

[eager grotto]

why shouldn't I

I'm british

[sturdy quartz]

completely fair

i hear rory i am happy

[vernal harness]

what if we made orange wybel playable

[spring steppe]

how about a random wybel that's not orange

[vernal harness]

then theyd probably get squished to death in 1 hit

harmless little wybel vs colossus calming dogun elder

who would win

[eager grotto]

should i replace doctor legendary's existing mech ult with this

[dusty temple]

https://tenor.com/view/kisse-mercy-overwatch-ow2-doomfist-gif-3457164259719891495

[vernal harness]

wait lv140??

[spring steppe]

nibbles the wybel support archetype

[vernal harness]

fruma max lvl cap leak

[dark cloud]

!!

the level 140 is real !!

[spring steppe]

my level 327 class on gm:

[eager grotto]

(he'd probably disappear while this ult was active)

[spring steppe]

1 small issue the ult only works on points b/d

[eager grotto]

yea it would be kinda trash elsewhere lol

[flat zodiac]

Maybe make it go in all directions

So you can maybe activate it from your spawn and snipe someone from the other spawn

[spring steppe]

junkrat ult

[flat zodiac]

That could work ig

[spring steppe]

alternatively dva ult

but that's kinda just gawrick

[eager grotto]

lol

wait hold on

guided fucking missile attack incoming

[flat zodiac]

That's the idea

Also, a small buff to gawrick would be perfect, or you planning to rework it?

because tbf if you increase the damage of gawrick it just becomes a dps class

[spring steppe]

not gonna lie he might as well be if we make 2 other support classes

symmetra treatment

[spring steppe]

big

[flat zodiac]

Damn the timing of the audio

I love it

[spring steppe]

iron golem
lmb: slam with arms
rmb command grab?
shift: charge (reinhardt)
ult: valorant breach/ow venture ult

[eager grotto]

where was my class concept that i didnt make

Shift - YOU CAN'T ESCAPE.
Dash forward three times in quick succession,
damaging foes hit during the dash and knocking them away.
End with a stomp which causes a knockback shockwave.

F - THIS... WILL HURT
Become immobile and raise into the air.
After a delay, explode in a huge radius, damaging
and knocking back players caught in the blast.

Right Click - Be GONE
Teleport forward a short distance, then
create a vertical shockwave which damages
and knocks back foes hit.

Left Click - Destroy!
Perform a short-range uppercut.

Passive: YES! THAT'S IT!
When below half HP, your attacks
gain damage, and wind-ups are shorter.

[sturdy quartz]

king minos?

[eager grotto]

sisyphus prime

[sturdy quartz]

xD i couldn't remember which 🤣 but yeah just literally that

[vernal harness]

a visitor?

[eager grotto]

hmm. indeed.

[sturdy quartz]

tom vs sisyphys prime

[vernal harness]

next years tom is just v1 ultrakill

[flat zodiac]

I have an idea for a support class
Left: throw a potion that damage enemies and give speed to allies
Right: throw a potion that slow down enemies and overheal allies
shift: all enemies near you become blind and disable all their spells
ult: all your enemies cannot move and your allies do 5% more damage
Passive: you leave a trail of mud everywhere you go and enemeis that walk into it get slowness

[eager grotto]

sounds like hell to play against

[spring steppe]

maltic witch except this is a monumenta class isn't jt

[eager grotto]

let's do it

[terse shuttle]

please no

[flat zodiac]

That's the objective

you do no damage but you debuff like hell your enemies

[spring steppe]

or we could do the funny and it's just potion merchant

[eager grotto]

i was gonna make a yahya class

[terse shuttle]

New class: Sisyphus
Abilities:

• (LMB) Stone: Start rolling a stone.

[eager grotto]

where you can like mix potions together and. shit

but idk i didnt really like

properly concept that

[shrewd willow]

well it also sound like you can just do soup gamble

[terse shuttle]

Mushroom man:

• Drug your enemies

[shrewd willow]

like drinking a soup will give you random effect

[flat zodiac]

This could be yahya ig?

[eager grotto]

his ult was literally going to be "your main attack becomes a hypodermic needle, hitting allies with it grants them speed + reduced cooldowns"

[shrewd willow]

why not yahya his ulimate form?

[spring steppe]

rmb1: randomly generate a mushroom that can have a positive/negative effext (heal/dmg, regen/poison, etc)
rmb2: drink soup to gain effect
lmb: throw soup to give positive effects to allies and negative effects to teammates

actually rmb could just be throw and the effect could be applied to self as well

[flat zodiac]

I like the idea of a random effect, i want something caotich

[spring steppe]

did bro forget how to spell chaotic

[flat zodiac]

Yes, i did not know where to put the h

[spring steppe]

it be like that

[spring steppe]

alternatively: hold rmb to cycle between various effects (heal/dmg, Regen/poison, speed/slow, etc) press rmb again to throw, applying effects in an aoe

[shrewd willow]

nah I like yahya being unpredictable
and randomness fits him a lot

[opal zealot]

A new Melee tank class that can use a shield to block projectiles and damage enemy with Alkatraz?

[shrewd willow]

that was like his whole gimmick during mushroom man quest

[flat zodiac]

Left: throw a mushroom that randomly give one of these effects to allies (healing/damage boost/speed boost) and to enemies (damage/poison/slowness)
Right: you can dig 2 holes in the terrain and the enemies that fall in one go redirected into the other (only enemies)
Shift: create a shockwave of dirt and mushroom that stun enemies and make them blind
Ult: a bounch of mushrooms spawn under your enemies and get trapped into them; they cannot move and get a small poison damage.
Passive: you leave a trail of mud everywhere you go and enemeis that walk into it get slowness

==================
The right spell is pure diabolic

[spring steppe]

having the effect not on a cd sounds strong

[eager grotto]

RMB:
If you have something in your Potion Slot, throw it (hitscan, 8 block range, uses bigger hitboxes) at a nearby player (allied or enemy!) and apply its effect to them.
Otherwise, brew a random potion and place it in your Potion Slot:

• Health regen (positive or negative)
• Cooldown regen (positive or negative)
• Max health (positive or negative, decays over time)
• Heal / Damage (positive or negative)
  LMB: throw a bowl of hot soup (projectile affected by gravity, deals burning DOT)
  Shift: Throw out a mushroom bounce pad (idk lol)
  F: Enter your Final Form for 30 seconds. While in your Final Form, gain movement speed, damage resistance, and a damage buff. Enemies you kill during your Final Form will each contribute an ingredient (effect) to your Ultimate Concoction. After you exit your final form, apply the effects of your Ultimate Concotion to your entire team:
• Killing gawrick: UC gains +move speed
• Killing hailey: UC gains +overhealth
  etc etc

[spring steppe]

lex trying to format this:

[flat zodiac]

I'm confused,
so you can only have 1 potion at the time?

[eager grotto]

something like that

id actually just make it auto brew

[flat zodiac]

It does not really convince me ngl
Maybe, if you look down and right click, it brew and you can have a max of 4/5 at the times
Or yeha auto brew is an option

I dont really feel like "enemies you kill during your final form" ecc fits

Support classes should be really weak damage wise

[spring steppe]

I think it's fitting for yahua ult to take matters into his own hands

[terse shuttle]

Enter your final form:

• everyone in the game dies instantly

[eager grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/jumanji-danny-devito-danny-devito-dwayne-johnson-gif-8987824127095423021

sidenote this is one of the laziest warps i've ever seen in filmmaking

[opal zealot]

Left: Swing the hammer, deal damage to everything in an arc (start with 2 and end at 4.5 blocks), 12 damage per hit
Right (hold): Raises the shield, block all projectiles in front of you but you'll be slowed by 40% and disable your LMB.
Shift: Charge forwards 16 blocks; when you hit an enemy, drag them with you. If it hits the wall, deal 25 damage and stun the enemy by 1.5s
Ult: Goes frenzy, gives 50% walk speed, hammer swing will greatly knockback enemy when hits, disable your RMB in 8s.
Passive: Taking more than 40 damage in 1 second gives you 20 overheal (decay 7 hp/s).
Max hp: 130

[flat zodiac]

That feels too similar to the fire class

[opal zealot]

lol

[spring steppe]

what character uses a hammer

[eager grotto]

we can just find someone

not like they have to be at all relevant

[spring steppe]

find someone a slap a hammer on them

I think it's better the less relevant they are

random skyraider npc

item identifier would be so good if there was a good kit idea

[wispy dawn]

Is it bad that I know what NPC is each class

[eager grotto]

no

[spring steppe]

the classes are named after the npcs

[wispy dawn]

I know

[glad basin]

i wonder which npc theorick represents

[wispy dawn]

Ngl the fact that Tom is named after the NPC of the currently removed quest where you end up killing corrupted Santa is funny (pretty sure it was Tom)

And that Gawrick is the crazy guy in Cinfras that invents the teleport spell that leads to an airship getting shot down

[eager grotto]

ok what if gawrick gave his teammates a scroll they could use to get back to the point or something

[wispy dawn]

What would it replace

[spring steppe]

shift

[eager grotto]

probably shift

idk

[wispy dawn]

Or how would you add it

[opal zealot]

I doubt anyone would ever pick it up

[eager grotto]

i dont like shift

shift is bad

[wispy dawn]

Okay fair

[glad basin]

just wait til you hear of the cancelled plan to add Kremraold as a character

[wispy dawn]

Gawrick was funny when you could indefinitely solo stall caps

[eager grotto]

im never releasing the shelved kit for <redacted>

[wispy dawn]

...okay that one I don't recognize

[glad basin]

stop they all know its Melpert

[spring steppe]

egpla

[eager grotto]

wait sam did you know about the plan to add a character from fruma called ??? as a teaser lol

[glad basin]

no

[wispy dawn]

You silly goose, all players are from Fruma!

[eager grotto]

Never ended up happening of course

[wispy dawn]

And a fair few NPCs

[eager grotto]

got vetoed by someone I forget who

[spring steppe]

scout raynauld

[glad basin]

confirmed they are in fruma

[eager grotto]

Calling the map mortal mountain also got vetoed

truly tragic

[spring steppe]

lol

[glad basin]

whats the map actually called then

[wispy dawn]

Overwatch But Good

[eager grotto]

erm

mountaintop retreat or something idk

[glad basin]

what does that stand for

[terse shuttle]

stands for actually

[spring steppe]

emountain rtop mretreat

[eager grotto]

it's referred to as MortalMountain literally everywhere in the code and has no real other name

[orchid skiff]

can we steal a class from league somehow

[sturdy quartz]

even though mortal mountain is never gonna be used in wynn in all honesty

[wispy dawn]

Exotic Rolling Magnets

[spring steppe]

if it was for heroes festival mortal mountain may have gotten through

[glad basin]

there was also the suggestion to add fruma characters to the character cosmetics set as teasers lol

we refuse to throw the community any bones though

sorry guys

[eager grotto]

tragic

[spring steppe]

you get exactly 1 bone that nobody has discovered

[eager grotto]

did I ever mention the scrapped blizzard brawl battle pass

[wispy dawn]

Can I have it for free pls

:D

[glad basin]

we couldve made it give double xp to silverbull subscribers for p2w

[eager grotto]

well quints original plan was you'd buy the premium pass with a silverbull share lol

[wispy dawn]

Yikes pls no it's already like 2stx on tm

[loud remnant]

wynn battle pass becoming real... am i reading this rn

[eager grotto]

yeah lol it's not gonna happen

we never ended up doing disguises for players anyway

[glad basin]

honestly id like a free wynn battlepass similar to what monumenta has

[wispy dawn]

Wait wait

[wispy dawn]

Npc disguises?

[loud remnant]

we gotta get wynn achievements similar to what monumenta has

such little collectibles are so fun

[spring steppe]

what do you mean monumenta has a battle pass

[eager grotto]

yeah originally you were gonna get disguised as who you were playing

[glad basin]

salted is SO lame and hates fun so we cant have achievements

[loud remnant]

how so

it doesnt have to be based on the ingame achievement system

[vernal harness]

Ynnos
LMB: Sends out a ball of void energy which deals damage, pierces, and gives 1 unit of Immaterial on hit.
RMB: Siphons the life energy out of an area and deal a small amount of damage to enemies in that area. Gives 1 unit of Immaterial on hit.
(No matter how many players hit, you only gain 1 Immaterial on one attack. Applies to both RMB and LMB.)
Passive: A Void Crystal is automatically synthesized from two units of Immaterial. Ynnos is healed for 2 HP whenever a Crystal is synthesized.
Sneak: Deploys a Void Crystal in a designated location. Max 2 Void Crystals can exist at a time.
Hold Sneak: Activates the existing Void Crystals, which now act like tiny singularities, weakly pulling enemies towards them. Allies in the vicinity in an activated Crystal gains 0.5 HP per second per crystal. Each Crystal can only be activated for 5 seconds.
Swap: Strengthens the Void Crystals to have a stronger pull and deal damage to affected enemies.

wah.

[glad basin]

idk he just doesnt like achievement systems for some reason

[loud remnant]

this guy

smh

[spring steppe]

aren't irlok and gawrick villagers lol

[glad basin]

he had some reason for it i just dont remember it

[wispy dawn]

Yeah

And Tom, in theory

[loud remnant]

it kinda does

not really your generic mobile game battle pass

but its similar

without p2w

[spring steppe]

I haven't played in years I'm just surprised

[loud remnant]

gotta hop on sexfall

[glad basin]

its fully free, you get like 4 relatively difficult missions every week and completing them gives you points to unlock things on a progression bar

its fun

[vernal harness]

and the rewards are actually pretty damn good !!!!!

[spring steppe]

I see

[loud remnant]

unlike wynn i never got thru that early endgame stage of monu lol

i played quickshot for a bit then they nerfed it then i went back to wynn

[vernal harness]

i still havent beaten hexfall

[loud remnant]

idk. i wanna break thru that and actually do difficult things but eh

later

[loud remnant]

same lol

i played on release when it was like impossible cuz my party doesnt have all day to practice

idk how it is rn

[vernal harness]

i only beat the funny creeper ben ten guy and dipped

[spring steppe]

I stopped at like pink wool

[loud remnant]

last time i played monu i got all challenge delves and quit again

sob

[wispy dawn]

Ok chat hear me out

Banish the Beyond but it's christmas characters

[loud remnant]

idk maybe i just forgot my early wynn days but monu feels like u invest much more into builds

with mwork and shit

[spring steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-gif-20604893

[loud remnant]

so when ur build gets nerfed or turns out to be bad but no one warned u

u kinda

uhh

pop

[spring steppe]

monu has a more flushed out crafting system doesn't it

like you can't just buy all your items with money

[loud remnant]

you can

[glad basin]

no

[spring steppe]

oh

[loud remnant]

you can choose to get the mats yourself ofc but you can also buy them

[glad basin]

theres a crafting system but its barely used and has like 10 recipes or something

[loud remnant]

from my monu gameplay i changed my view on wynn community a lot

[glad basin]

then you can "craft" epics but its more like combining a bunch of currencies to buy them

[loud remnant]

like i just hopped on the server for a couple hours a day and i just wanted smth fun, good and not insanely hard to play then i found that thing then it got nerfed then i just dipped

[spring steppe]

I'm kinda sunk cost fallacied onto wynn but also I still like the game

[loud remnant]

i can kinda understand some complaints abt wynn nerfs now lmao

[glad basin]

hexfall?

[flat zodiac]

You can buy everything with money

[glad basin]

hexfall is literally designed to be like giga sweat content so

[spring steppe]

the thing is when things get nerfed in wynn it's not like it's any harder to use most of the time

[vernal harness]

the 5000 units of raw cooperation between teammates required by hexfall:

[flat zodiac]

All the things i have rn come from lootrunning

(in monu)

[loud remnant]

well yea i started playing (for the 39752th time) when hexfall dropped but i never intended to clear hexfall specifically

[spring steppe]

exploding head

[glad basin]

ive only fought (not beaten) ru'ten

its fun

[loud remnant]

i wouldnt mind ofc but i also realize hexfall was borderline unbeatable at the time especially if you dont play the game a lot

[glad basin]

i fear hycenea

[vernal harness]

i also fear hycenea

[loud remnant]

we did beat ruten on release day tho

was pretty cool

[spring steppe]

endgame monumenta is mostly party content it seems or no

[glad basin]

i may actually be one of the first people to have fought hycenea though cause i discovered a bug on release day that let you fight her without previously beating ruten

[vernal harness]

the only session i did me and my gang got her to 50% and i was like jesus i had enough and i was gone

[loud remnant]

yeah

[flat zodiac]

Yeha

[loud remnant]

and it sucks cuz monu has a much smaller community

[spring steppe]

I like to play solo for most of the time so that's unfortunate

[loud remnant]

and i have not had good interactions with monu community

[glad basin]

i was also one of the first people to fight xenotopsis but we lost and only got to be the 2nd party to beat it 😔

[flat zodiac]

I mean ig you can like, do dungeons on repeat back to back

lootrun them all

[loud remnant]

so i wanna stay away from monu community in general but the game also forces me to do the opposite and idk

[flat zodiac]

but after a bit it gets boring

[vernal harness]

i still dont get sanguine halls

and i dont wanna get it

[loud remnant]

in wynn u just find a different bubble you sit in, monu itself is one bubble cuz its so small

[flat zodiac]

You should try telos

[loud remnant]

hypixel zombies basically

[spring steppe]

my first ever monumenta interaction was one of my friends going omg is that underscores birb the wynncraft moderator and one of the monu mods said "Lets cnage the subject."

[vernal harness]

yea but like i cant navigate the damn map

[glad basin]

monumenta community seems nice on the surface usually but then theres some fucked stuff that happens

[loud remnant]

i did (grinding shithole like hsb but has models) jus not the type i want

idm grinds but telos is like

[spring steppe]

me for real

[loud remnant]

just kill mob after mob

[vernal harness]

yea

[loud remnant]

its like u mobfarm mythics lmfao

[flat zodiac]

It's heaven for lootrunners

basically

[vernal harness]

i stopped playing telos when i had to grind 50 runs of undead lair for one doom katana

and lost it because of connection reset

[flat zodiac]

Only 50?

[vernal harness]

i mean its guaranteed so

cant get worse than that

[flat zodiac]

Man you should try getting some endgame stuff

[flat zodiac]

It does

[vernal harness]

nope no thanks ive seen how they can take 200 runs

[glad basin]

telos is neat but i have been spoiled by wynns privilege to afford fully original models so when i play telos its like way too noticeable that all the models are just bought from mcmodels and it takes me out of it

[vernal harness]

and i dont wanna have another time sink in my schedule,,

[loud remnant]

monu community is super insistent on blaming the player for anything like you want guidance "lol shut the fuck up it ruins the aTmOsPhErE 🤓" or you say X content is hard "lol you're just bad quit the server"

[glad basin]

like they all have different artstyles and shit

[loud remnant]

maybe i didnt see the right side of it, idk. but thats pretty much all the interactions ive gotten

[glad basin]

actually wait this is the snowverwatch thread why are we talking about this here

[spring steppe]

anyways blizzard brawl official thread

lol

[flat zodiac]

Monu has a bad early game and a good mid to end game

[loud remnant]

why not.

[glad basin]

well this threads intention is to gather feedback

[spring steppe]

go to general or something bub

[loud remnant]

sock isnt here to stop us >:)

[glad basin]

and we're clogging it with a random tangent

[spring steppe]

I'm here to stop you

[loud remnant]

D:

[spring steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/hoodwinked-hoodwinked-too-slap-gif-23733043

[loud remnant]

LMFAO

WHAT IS THAT GIF

[flat zodiac]

Wynn - good early-mid game and decent endgame (finally)
Telos - non-existance early and mid game with good endgame
Monu - terrible early game with good mid game and decently good endgame

[vernal harness]

here to max airtime irlok slam + 5 harmony rc + ult + lcrc combo

[spring steppe]

why do people always charge in with irlok on spawn like you can take advantage of 3 harmony

[flat zodiac]

Because 1 harmony is enough

to get all the damage

[spring steppe]

walk up through middle stairs into slam get 5 harmony and eat someone

[vernal harness]

idk i use freefall slam to get to the middle ngl

and the waiting time is enough for cd to refresh

and i can go annoy someone the moment they arrive

[flat zodiac]

from what i understood, irlock damage comes all from freefall

[spring steppe]

the thing is over time people will expect you to do it every tine

[vernal harness]

ult !

[flat zodiac]

you use armony for making frefall do damage

[wispy dawn]

Not all but god damn does it hit hard

[spring steppe]

gotta do mixups

clearly u guys don't play smash

[wispy dawn]

No I don't

I'm too cool to smash

[flat zodiac]

My gameplay with irlock is
get 1 armony, go up, frefall, wait for frefall cooldown, repeat

during the cooldown i go take free healing

[wispy dawn]

You're sleeping on the left right good night combo

[sturdy quartz]

i've occasionally just used the normal smash to get to their spawn

[vernal harness]

my gameplay with irlok is
freefall engage follow with a lil bit of lcrc if possible and run to dip
sometimes i dont even need to dip because theyre DEAD

[eager grotto]

left right left goodnight

[glad basin]

i think their maps are also bought from places, its kinda like the minecraft equivalent of an asset flip. a lot of areas dont feel right to play in, its very clear that the server is fully made by developers with no build or art team which is understandable but it still feels wacky to play

i also generally prefer games with actual lore and story, and telos fully lacks this.

anyway thats all i have to say on that now lets focus on the topic of this thread

[flat zodiac]

If there is a tom, i get 5 harmony and the go bother the tom

[vernal harness]

or i just look at those with low hp and go in to claim their lives

[sturdy quartz]

i'll be honest, this just makes it unfun for tom

[flat zodiac]

It's free food

[vernal harness]

like whenever i see a guy with <40hp and no supports nearby i just go like this

https://tenor.com/view/niko-oneshot-ballin-teste-niko-ballin-gif-26110464

[wispy dawn]

Tbf Tom gets the benefit of gun

[sturdy quartz]

you say that but the amount of times i've just peppered an irlok to enough health that when they charge me they get shotgun to the face.

[spring steppe]

as an assassin its your job to make it unfun for the back liner that's just how the game is

[sturdy quartz]

irlok's not exactly an assassin though

[flat zodiac]

Tom gets bullied by irlock and theorick, and that's it

[spring steppe]

he essentially fills in that role

[sturdy quartz]

Not even theorick tbh

[flat zodiac]

everyone else is a prey for tom

[wispy dawn]

It is when you fly into the air at mach 7

[eager grotto]

irlok getting phat nerfs soon btw lol

[sturdy quartz]

thank god.

[flat zodiac]

if you find a dumb tom that is on the battlefield
You start running the tom

follow him

he cannot do anything

[wispy dawn]

What about jump + rc

[flat zodiac]

most dumb toms dont even know how to use the shotgun to go away

[sturdy quartz]

oh i just pepper the theorick the moment that shield breaks

[eager grotto]

changes coming Soon(tm):

• Irlok's head is now additionally required to be in an air or air-like block (as well as his feet) for healing to occur
• Ladders, snow layers, stairs, slabs, and vines are no longer counted as an air-like block
• The minimum damage on irlok's ground slam has been reduced (10->8)
• The maximum damage on irlok's ground slam has been reduced (40->30)
• The maximum range on irlok's ground slam has been reduced (8->5.5)
• The time required for irlok's ground slam to reach its maximum has been increased (400ms->600ms)
• Irlok's ult damage has been reduced (55->35)
• Irlok's healing has been reduced (5/s->3/s)
• Fixed an issue where Irlok's dash would go way too far if the server was lagging

[sturdy quartz]

because you can actually nearly kill the theorick if you're a good aimer

[flat zodiac]

Most toms dont use the shotgun to go the fuck away

they use it to make damage

[sturdy quartz]

i use it to go away or as a damage dealer for the irlok if he's really not leaving me alone

(also genuinely can tom get a buff so that his grenade is actually AoE)

[flat zodiac]

one reason why most toms die to irlock is because they dont have all their 2 shotguns to get away from irlocks

[sturdy quartz]

i would gladly use that at any range and not just point blank if the grenade worked

[flat zodiac]

Oh yeha please make grenade have aoe

[spring steppe]

we'll see but I feel like this might be an over nerf

[eager grotto]

maybe

idk

[spring steppe]

like a handful of these changes were necessary but idk about all of them

[flat zodiac]

rn it's direct contact

[eager grotto]

nice to shake up the meta a bit anyway

[wispy dawn]

If not AoE, then not make it look like a fucking explosion

[spring steppe]

time will tell and yea

[sturdy quartz]

the amount of times i've caught someone in the explosion

but it's not a direct hit

[flat zodiac]

I use the grenade just because why not

[orchid skiff]

the amount of disappointment

[dark cloud]

yes i need tom's grenade to be an actual grenade

[vernal harness]

i use the grenade whenever i remember its existence

[dark cloud]

way too jank to hit directly

[vernal harness]

(i never use it)

[sturdy quartz]

i have to use that at point blank as an extra hit

it works then

[flat zodiac]

Either that or when you are in a narrow tunnel

then the grenade does damage

a lot of damage

[sturdy quartz]

or just you're in their face.

[vernal harness]

it isnt like im going to be dealing damage with it

[sturdy quartz]

i've killed a theorick out of pure "will you shut up for 1 second please"

[vernal harness]

unless im like 0.1 millimeters away from the enemy

[orchid skiff]

(pls stop shooting me getting outa spawn tho that really hurts my feelings)

[vernal harness]

sniper gaming,,

[flat zodiac]

will you shut up man*

[flat zodiac]

:)

[sturdy quartz]

i remember shooting an irlok who was hiding on the roof above the second capture point

[orchid skiff]

spawn prot really should be extended :(

[flat zodiac]

You need to understand the path to not getting hit by tom

[sturdy quartz]

like i'm sorry, why are you camping somewhere I have a direct line sight of?

[flat zodiac]

go to the centre

not to the side

[vernal harness]

he likes to have the highground

[sturdy quartz]

he was at 40 health

[still idol]

BLESSED DAY!!!!

[flat zodiac]

if you go to the side you are asking tom to decrease your health by 45

[vernal harness]

good heavens

[sturdy quartz]

people do not realise medkits in this game exist

[flat zodiac]

and here it's your fault

[sturdy quartz]

actually doesn't work.

Tom can have a direct line of sight on all 3 exits.

[orchid skiff]

in defense the med kits only heal like 20

[flat zodiac]

Sometimes i see people looking at me, running in my direction and watching their health decrease

[sturdy quartz]

i mostly use them as tom because there is 0 sustain

[flat zodiac]

It's hard that tom is looking at the centre

[orchid skiff]

the problem is that my ass tends to be shot by the said tom or stomped by irlok if spotted

[flat zodiac]

most of the times they look at the sides

[sturdy quartz]

oh i mean on second points.

[flat zodiac]

Second points 100% centre

never go to the side

and use the stairs

[sturdy quartz]

also i love forcing people to switch to tom out of pure hatred.

it defintely doesn't get annoying

[flat zodiac]

The thing is that, the few people that switch to tom they are not even good

lol

[sturdy quartz]

yeah it's just annoying because irlok

[dark cloud]

this is so true though, in pfinder over half of the games i can just play tom aggressively with the health kits just chilling

[sturdy quartz]

so the tom's constantly trying to pepper me, missing then irlok actually just gets involved which makes avoiding the other tom harder

[flat zodiac]

A suggestion to all the toms here: save the 2 shotguns to get away from irlock (when there is an irlock in the game)

[sturdy quartz]

what's funny is it's also always the dr legendary who switches

[flat zodiac]

you may get oneshotted if he catches you without the 2 shotguns

[sturdy quartz]

i think it's because tom actually hard counters dr legendary's mech form

[flat zodiac]

Yes because of the increased hitbox

[sturdy quartz]

and also him having 45 health and you doing 15 per hit

[flat zodiac]

since when i discovered this i just go uga buga on dr leg

and fucking double shotgun his face

[sturdy quartz]

oh i just snipe him

[flat zodiac]

nah it's funnier to double shotgun his face

[sturdy quartz]

it's very funny to just go "oh mech form?" yeah no.

[flat zodiac]

Because they do not expect this

[eager grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-just-put-the-fries-in-the-bag-donald-trump-put-the-fries-in-the-bag-mcdonalds-gif-4970290544971902809

[flat zodiac]

Said this, Tom is an hard class to use. If you dont have a great aim, you are armless

it's like you dont even have a gun without a great aim

[sturdy quartz]

honestly theorick's the only class i hate playing as

[eager grotto]

tom is not that hard

just click the heads

[flat zodiac]

Can you make headshots do 2x more damage?

[vernal harness]

🔥

[wispy dawn]

Nah body shots since no headshot multiplier

[flat zodiac]

It should be easy to code this

[sturdy quartz]

defintely not broken at all

[wispy dawn]

With the jank hit detection? Lol. Lmao.

[eager grotto]

i so very almost added headshots

and then i thought

no that's a terrible idea

[dark cloud]

but it would be funny..

[sturdy quartz]

everyone will treat this game like call of duty with a sniper

[eager grotto]

honestly i dont think the hit detection is THAT janky

[flat zodiac]

In theory it's easy
If you hit AND the place you hit is at least 1.75 more elevation compared to his feets, headshot

[wispy dawn]

In theory

In theory

[flat zodiac]

In practice while loops gets more cicle in wynncraft during lag spikes

[eager grotto]

less cycles

[flat zodiac]

Oh less?

That makes sense

[eager grotto]

well it takes longer to execute the same number of cycles

[flat zodiac]

There is a reason why i did not apply for CT, because wynncraft feels a pain to code on

(and then you have to get bothered by people complaining the class you created is ruining their fun, irlock)

[tawdry zinc]

Gale!!!

[dark cloud]

!!!

[tawdry zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162564880583381133/1301423238840061952/watermark.gif

[dusty temple]

we toming

that _lob guy is gawrick

[faint wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162564880583381133/1301423238840061952/watermark.gif

[terse shuttle]

I wish that gawrick was actually usable without crazy skill instead of just spamming tom theo irlok haley

[dusty temple]

he actually plays well just i got used to the 200ms and predict his future

[wispy dawn]

Gawrick is funny but it does feel underwhelming imho

[eager grotto]

gawrick needs some buffs i fear

gleamsphere needs to travel faster

[sturdy quartz]

no joke i actually got my team to capture a point because he chased me all the way to the final point while it was still at center

[eager grotto]

shift needs... it needs something, i don't know what

[faint wharf]

oh hey same guy

[sturdy quartz]

so they had no irlok to worry about

[faint wharf]

oops

[faint wharf]

I feel like it doesnt feel good still even if you make him do more damage or heal more or be faster

he needs some utility beyond TP and griefing team (i do that)

[eager grotto]

i concur

i just dont really know what

[vast valve]

i agree with this lob person

would be cool if both teams get to ban a class

the banned class will be banned for both teams

[vernal harness]

im cooked

[orchid skiff]

lowkey wanna see this game without the dps classes

[eager grotto]

im not adding a fucking ban phase guys

[still idol]

banning 2 characters in a game of 7 characters sounds like a really fun idea

[eager grotto]

irlok and tom banned every game

[still idol]

[tawdry zinc]

lol

[last geode]

irlok update

[faint wharf]

Toxic answer is to make it so if right click is charged to red it does KB, but honestly making the right click pass through enemies would be cool, or passing through allies to heal
garwick already wants to line up for his tp might as well

I also feel like his passive should be more visible aura, cause I have no idea how close i need to actively be at all times to receive garwick passive

[terse shuttle]

Alr make garlic gleamsphere or whatever it was called self heal for 1s / second charged or something

or or or

Make black hole hela allies in range for x% of the damage it deals to enemies!!

[faint wharf]

nah ult healing dont really make sense

at that point ur just fast hailey

actually overhealth might be a good idea if thats inplemented, but only overhealth

[sturdy quartz]

i'm noticing theoricks genuinely just put down a shield on reflex

which when im playing aggressive with tom, does not work

[faint wharf]

i mean its just something you want up but a smart way is just to try and time it with Tom reloads

[terse shuttle]

Black hole
Enemy hp -> ally overhealth

[faint wharf]

thats if u hit the damn thing

[sturdy quartz]

oh no i mean literally im in their face.

[faint wharf]

oh

yeah

[sturdy quartz]

using shotguns and mines just to maximise damage

[faint wharf]

ig that dont work well for theorick then :)

[sturdy quartz]

yeahh and that's because i know irlok's about to jump in as well

because slam doesn't care about shield

[faint wharf]

i wonder if triple dps would beat theorick doube supp

(probably because garwick is kinda negative)

[terse shuttle]

Sadly

[sturdy quartz]

theorick really doesn't do well against a sniping tom tbh

like the shield only does so much and the other 2 can easily force theorick in the open just accidentally

[eager grotto]

what's the uhh

the damn

the fuckin, uh

[terse shuttle]

The uh ah dman uh fucking uh? Yeah

I dont know tbh

[sturdy quartz]

xD btw sok since you're here. Any chance tom's grenade gonna get AoE

[eager grotto]

uhh maybe

[sturdy quartz]

because it's nice to use at point blank (Seriously the damage is good) but beyond that it's 9 times out of 10 doing nothing

[eager grotto]

however im kinda lazy and uh

[terse shuttle]

Make Tom's bullets explode on impact with a 10 block radius (explosion deals 15 dmg too)

[last geode]

e

[faint wharf]

make Tom have a headshot mechanic (/j)

[eager grotto]

no

[sturdy quartz]

also i hate tom's shotgun having the ability to snipe

it annoys the hell out of me when someone actually hits me with the shotgun from 40 blocks away

[orchid skiff]

so like, can we increase spawn protection

:3

[eager grotto]

to what

[terse shuttle]

46s

[orchid skiff]

enough so tom doesnt delete half the health before i get to walk across

[eager grotto]

real life accurate

[sturdy quartz]

tf they using birdshot?

[eager grotto]

idk maybe they are

[sturdy quartz]

yeah true. Tom is probably using it to hit santa's sleigh

[terse shuttle]

Btw the game starts in: timer just got to -1 and stopped working

Unplayable

Had to /hub

-12 elo 😥😢 😢

[orchid skiff]

oh yeah game start bugs

[terse shuttle]

Love em

[orchid skiff]

i hope to not see them by the end of this festival but since its the first time this is here, might take till next year D:

[terse shuttle]

Next year btb with christmas theme?

[orchid skiff]

next years its btb but themed with each festival

[eager grotto]

the one where people leave during class select and it breaks?

its getting fixed

[orchid skiff]

:D

[terse shuttle]

Garlick game against a pretty good team

• 1.2k dmg
• 200 healing
• 11 kills
• 5 deaths
• 400% point contribution

[elfin garnet]

silly

[terse shuttle]

Not bad at all but still garwick needs some buffa

You can "support" yeah bt youre screwed when sprint runs out and youre not in the air with portals

Banish the beyond but irlok is the spirit and will slam you when he finds you?

[terse shuttle]

I've changed my mind, Gawrick is pretty damn good (now that I've played like 20 games with it. God damn the skill requirement for a mediocre reward is crazy, and you need to get past the "this class is ass stage aka first ten games w/ it)

Its fun asf and takes some effort to play

But i still think it needs a buff like glemasphere is piercing or heals allies on hit for 1 hp/sec charged or something

[faint wharf]

The main use of garwick is to tp toxic teammate off the map

Change my mind

[sour night]

make it tp everyone so you can launch people off the map as an offensive abilituy

[sturdy quartz]

Literally the only time i like gawrick as a teammate is when he leaves a portal for me to front line

[paper epoch]

it makes up for the 50% of the time where the bullets phase through people at close range

[indigo patrol]

told you

gawrick my beloved 😍

[sturdy quartz]

Yeah the amount of times I've just gone "i swear these are hitting"

[indigo patrol]

oh yeah has there been any changes to the game yet

[terse shuttle]

Dont think so (since irlok is still op)

[terse shuttle]

Ikr people are sleeping on good gawrick gameplay

[eager grotto]

skill issue

or more likely ping issue

[paper epoch]

3 ping

[eager grotto]

no shot you have 3 ping

[paper epoch]

i host wynncraft btw

[eager grotto]

shots 1-3: clearly missed

[sturdy quartz]

Probably ping i average like 100

[terse shuttle]

Almost sounds like fixing something with an ability that is op so it makes up for it lmao

[indigo patrol]

is the achivement for ricko fixed yet

i wana get a full board fr 🙏

[paper epoch]

what

[terse shuttle]

Its not

[sturdy quartz]

That shotgun i believe just has infinite range but spread

[terse shuttle]

But it almost sounds like it

[paper epoch]

it doesnt have infinite range

i just wish the shotgun could be used up close and the basic attack was for long range

instead the basic attack is for long/medium range and the shotgun is for jumping and wasting bullets

[sturdy quartz]

Tbf when it works its brutal

[terse shuttle]

Yeah

[paper epoch]

dice roll attack that either instakills you or the enemy

[sturdy quartz]

Like I've used the shotgun at close range and its hard to just survive it

Bonus points if you abuse the kb

[terse shuttle]

garlic

🧄

[eager grotto]

the shotgun is pretty reliable in my experience

[paper epoch]

idk its maybe a me issue

but the shotgun is like, SUPER unreliable

in my experience

[sturdy quartz]

Yeah reliable just hoping to god you don't die at that range

[terse shuttle]

Shotgun feels like you need crazy good ail to use it reliably

[paper epoch]

ive shot someone with the shotgun and got a bunch of hits, been thrown back, they've walked at me in a perfectly straight line, and ive fired the second shot straight through them and its not dealt any damage

[terse shuttle]

Like tracing someone when theyre running around you is hard

[terse shuttle]

This sounds familiar tho

[still idol]

whats your ms typically?

[paper epoch]

and its also brutal to get that happen cause it means ive totally wasted 3 bullets and my gun takes extra long before i can shoot again, and the reload takes so long

[still idol]

3 ms 😱

[paper epoch]

3 ping (i dont know but i typically have very very low latency to the point ive never checked)

[terse shuttle]

Reload should take a little less time

Ive been killed by a fresh irlok (no harmony just dashed to mid) before i could reload

[still idol]

tom’s damage per bullet is too high to justify this imo

[terse shuttle]

I was full hp or something

[still idol]

gotta manage your bullets better

[terse shuttle]

Maybe if the bullets actually had the ability to hit

[paper epoch]

yeah tom being abt resource management is good with the longer reload, it shouldnt change

but that gameplay skill gets tossed out of the window when you can seemingly randomly lose so much of your resources

[terse shuttle]

Or actually just nerf irlok and its alr

[paper epoch]

also @eager grotto is hindersnare STILL not aoe

[terse shuttle]

Oh btw is Hailey spelt with an e on purpose, is it getting changed to Haily or has it been too long to fix that

[paper epoch]

or was that finally changed

[terse shuttle]

I think it hasnt been changed yet

Unless it was changed like very little time ago

[paper epoch]

😭 i literally repeatadly asked for that for MONTHS

[terse shuttle]

This

[pseudo sun]

nah it has explosion effects for the fun of it

[terse shuttle]

It basically does though

[vocal palm]

yea idk why it didnt get done before release

post release ive been to busy dealing with more urgent things

[eager grotto]

it's still not aoe lol

[terse shuttle]

(can you remove every class but garlic pleas)

[paper epoch]

bro

[pseudo sun]

it’s to the point where i developed how to accurately aim shift on tom against players

[vocal palm]

you should go make it aoe sockmower

[terse shuttle]

Remove hindersnare cd

[last geode]

ngl even with irlok nerf it still feels op

[pseudo sun]

are the irlok changes live

[terse shuttle]

Hope so

[last geode]

no

i played a game 40 minutes ago and it still deal 40 dmg

[terse shuttle]

I think its going to be at least almost alr cuz the charge is getting nerfed

[pseudo sun]

1v1 my irlok boy

[terse shuttle]

Ill whoop any irlok with garlic

Gawrick

[last geode]

our timezone doesnt match 💔

[pseudo sun]

yes it does

[terse shuttle]

Also this

[last geode]

yes

[terse shuttle]

with an e**

[last geode]

yes

[terse shuttle]

Why

[last geode]

intensional ig

[eager grotto]

I don't have time I fear

snowverwatch support is provided on a best effort basis

I do this for fun and I have to balance my time with other things 😎

[paper epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[eager grotto]

maybe when I get home

we'll see

[elfin garnet]

womp wmp

[flat zodiac]

you are the only one that coded this event?

[indigo patrol]

wynn devs work in a temu sweatshop 😭

[last geode]

me

[pseudo sun]

@last geode 1v1 me bro

[sharp horizon]

guys how do you play rickeo

[last geode]

i want to sleep

[terse shuttle]

Don't, just learn garlic

[pseudo sun]

no

[flat zodiac]

You just attack people with left, when trying to run away use whipe
And for going to the other side of the map / more damage flaming tornado

[flat zodiac]

In general, rickeo is a counter of theorick, irlock (you just have to avoid his big jumps with flaming tornado) and does good job against tom

[weak gale]

I know it’s unlikely, but it would be really nice to see this one stick around in some capacity outside of the event. It feels a lot more thought out than the other festival minigames. It would be great to either have it as a separate queueable game (like the old wizard tower gamemode) or just straight up implement it into endgame content as an extra thing to do. As it currently stands, this gamemode is the best form of direct PvP on the server, and I think it would be a waste to only make it seasonal

[elfin garnet]

seasonal minigames r never beocming not seasonal

btb my beloved :(

[flat zodiac]

I agree on this
This could really well be somekind of pvp

maybe expanded, implemented aspects/powerups

[last geode]

this pvp might be better for/than hunted ngl

[elfin garnet]

the world if btb wasnt seasonal

[indigo patrol]

btb?

[weak gale]

Imagine some sort of guild war mechanic with a gamemode like that. It would be awesome

[last geode]

deadbydaylight but wynncraft

[indigo patrol]

nahhh

heroes >>>

[last geode]

heroes is so fart

[indigo patrol]

nuh

uh

[last geode]

blizzy is so much fun

and the most ive played so far

[elfin garnet]

dr li is fun

i like btb more but i usually dont like fps much

[flat zodiac]

What are the extra minigames in wynncraft?

btb, blizzard, heroes and?

Am i missing something?

[elfin garnet]

btfb

[flat zodiac]

btfb?

[elfin garnet]

the first minigame

battle for the bonfire

[flat zodiac]

oh yeha

[elfin garnet]

poopy!

[weak gale]

As far as I can tell, this one is significantly higher quality than the others

[flat zodiac]

this event feels a btfb upgrade lol

blizzard = btb > heroes > btfb

[elfin garnet]

also i think poitns stall too much at 2nd point, it feels like a lot of games just swap betwen a team gettinf first point, then other team reclaiming, then repeating till the first team wins

ofc sometimes its dif but it feels like a lot of games just go to the 4th point

anwyays gotta go ee

[last geode]

yh cuz this took like a year to develop

[last geode]

havent had loads of games where you win back from almost 1 point of losing

[weak gale]

It’s such a waste to make this only seasonal

[last geode]

!!

[spring steppe]

the reasoning for it being seasonal is because over time these kinda of events drop in popularity

[eager grotto]

it was mainly quint then she left and I took over development

and then lex helped out at the end too

[flat zodiac]

You, lex and quint cooked something really funny, really congrats

[vocal palm]

banish the beyond:

[weak gale]

That’s the one I haven’t played lol

[elfin garnet]

jamp fatigue :(

[elfin garnet]

ehh it does happen occasionally but def not as often as just swapping between first and 2nd point until the team that scored first wins

[gusty snow]

its crazy when i came back after hiatus and everyone was gushing over the elusive "btb"

[elfin garnet]

like u keep killing the enemy at their 2nd pt to the poitn of spawn camping but then u get team wiped once and bc u stalled for so long u get cucked by respawn timer, ig i would like to make respawns longer only if you keep on dying often but theres prob a better solution

[elfin garnet]

what hiatus 🤨

[gusty snow]

what

[tawdry zinc]

I will ALWAYS glazy btb

Btb my lvoe

[elfin garnet]

im lazy vs im glazy

[tawdry zinc]

im ender c ly

[elfin garnet]

you are ender c paw

[tawdry zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-war-ww3-ww2-ww1-gif-1946324958476768576

[loud ravine]

Yeah I wish it was more dynamic

Despite how bad or good each team it it always seems to follow this pattern

[indigo patrol]

garwick my beloved

[elfin garnet]

top ten pfinder

[indigo patrol]

fr

0 deaths is kinda fun tho

i norm die like 6 times from tping off the map but

eh

[loud ravine]

gawrick moment

[fossil saffron]

Admiral Aegis: Tank
Hp: 130
A Military leader, always on the front lines inspiring allies and controlling the flow of battle.
Shift: Places down a banner that gives allies in range 3hps regen and himself 5hps for 5s, 15s cooldown.
Rmb: Slams his polearm against the ground, knocking back enemies greatly and dealing 15 damage (10s cooldown)
Lmb: A melee attack from his spear dealing 8 damage and slight knockback
Ultimate: Admiral's Advance
He gains double his max hp as overhealth, lasting until the ultimate is done. All nearby allies will have damage taken transferred to his overhealth, and deal bonus damage.
(I haven't figured out an exact okay number for the bonus damage yet) Duration: 10s.

Shame this relevant character from the start of the game wasn't in this brawl, and we even see him stand up to bakal in a hunter's calling! I want him to be a control tank that helps his team weather fights and march on to the next battle.

But in a much more direct sense compared to theo who just places down a shield and stuns. He displaces enemy ranks and has his allies "form up" in a sense

[elfin garnet]

freaky

[fossil saffron]

He'd melt pretty quickly to aoes while doing his ultimate since he'd be the one taking the damage AND taking two teamates damage but as always it's an idea on paper

[elfin garnet]

ult shouldn't give a dmg boost prob

[fossil saffron]

I was thinking a flat damage boost over percentage of like 5

Cuz if we went percentage heheh ahaha irlok:

Or tom's ult:

[elfin garnet]

a redirect is alr p powerful I think

[fossil saffron]

Yeah but the thing is that if the aegis pops it when he's low hp the effectivness is reduced

So I wanted it to have some sort of merit to pop when he's low hp ya know?

[grizzled dune]

I have some feedback, after a game is over can it work like raids where the party is immediately dissolved?

most ppl dont wanna just do the same 5 other ppl again, even if it does switch up the teams

they want to just let pfinder settle it

[indigo patrol]

yuh

[grizzled dune]

its annoying to /party leave after every game

[eager grotto]

it's possible

would be annoying in a premade tho

[pseudo sun]

if it’s like raids, premades don’t usually get disbanded

they just kick whoever wasn’t in the original party

[eager grotto]

I can't restore previous parties in script

[elfin garnet]

my premadees usually leave and make a new party anywas

[faint wharf]

i guess itd be super annoying for a 6 stack

of ppl just tryina play with eachother if it absolved EVERY game

[elfin garnet]

it would only disband if it was a pfinder run like raids I'm assumin

[faint wharf]

please

thatd be better

also you should not lose huge amounts of SR when teammates leave the game

(-30)

[indigo patrol]

what is the content team cooking ;-;

[grizzled dune]

already posted + offmap screenshot + get banned kid

[indigo patrol]

boreal

gawick

paper 5 elo btw

[loud remnant]

erm but there is an amongus there which clearly isnt a test build so its within map

[grizzled dune]

erm if there was a screenshot of superflat it would still get deleted

even if there was no build yet found

[tawdry zinc]

Amogus

I WAS the first to post THEREFOR i am immune

[inland pier]

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[sturdy quartz]

I did it as a Tom

[eager grotto]

problem?

[tawdry zinc]

NEVER a problem

[elfin garnet]

????? pfinder is lcoked out cocked out or you are the silliest

[indigo patrol]

Gang what are you saying 😭🙏🏽

[indigo patrol]

Also i have like 10 hours on him now

He is very solid

[tawdry zinc]

ykw seeing this i have a bit more hope into gawrick esp with proj changing holding him back
maybe i play him a bit more

[indigo patrol]

Biggest tip i can give is use your shift to grab health packs

U cant die if u play him well

[tawdry zinc]

yeah that ws makes you an annoying fly to catch lol

i will consider it if i get an easy game

i still love Dr Li

dr L bouta hand out those L's :)

[faint wharf]

I can say with the proj changes it actually possible to hit garwick right click without needed to run through somebody

[indigo patrol]

Fr

[solar rain]

is there a way to convert storm fragments into mountain shards?

[eager grotto]

no

(t currently)

[solar rain]

okay thanks

[coarse epoch]

is dcing games bannable

[eager grotto]

no but it is very rude

and you should feel bad for doing it

[still idol]

[faint wharf]

idk if this questioned was answered, but why do I lose SR if both my teammates leave (causing me to be unable to win due to how capturing points work)

im never getting that -30 back

[eager grotto]

uhhhhhhhhhh idk

I'll look into changing the formulae

[coarse epoch]

Get on that dodge method 🤑

[eager grotto]

idk I might just remove rating

seems more trouble than it's worth

[coarse epoch]

Isn’t rewards SR based tho

[eager grotto]

no

not directly

it's complicated

[coarse epoch]

Are u able to share how it’s calcd

[eager grotto]

maybe tomorrow

[faint wharf]

Yeah from my experience it seems pretty arbitrary.
A) Its not displayed anywhere so you cant even really brag about having high sr
B) It doesnt seem to work half the time
C) Pfinder usually only finds 6 people at a time instead of matchmaking you against people your SR. Instead its used to balance teams. You can probably make it off another stat instead of making these calculations
D) Why do I lose SR when it is phyiscally impossible to win unless the other team ALSO has the same disconnect problem
E) The amount of games I have had where there has been no change makes me wonder why it exists

[swift storm]

mods why the fuck hasnt irlok been nerfed yet

what the fuck is taking so long

this game is so unfun

can anyone with half a brain just queue once and realize "damn every player that isnt irlok just gets fucking decimated by a 40 health 10 radius attack every 5 seconds + an ult that just instakills you every minute"

and realize this game is js a matter of irlok vs irlok

and it's entirely skilless gameplay

and i acc dont give a shit abt how lag affects dash length or whatever js give him an overall damage nerf and remove his insane sustain for now

dont know whats taking so log

Even overwatch balancing has never been anywhere close to this bad

[swift storm]

Hooray

Sry for tilt lol I didn't see that

Hopefully this makes the game fun again

[gusty snow]

yea fair. im surprised it wasnt pinned

[swift storm]

I don't know how short the new dash is but 600ms still seems like not that long to me

Do u think u can get that with 1 harmony

I also hate how like undodgeable his slam is cause all the sudden horizontal momentum he gets

Well range reduction should help

[tawdry zinc]

euouae coming in clutch

[swift storm]

I hate the bracelet euaueoe cause I can never spell it

[tawdry zinc]

i learend to sepll it because of them

the good ending

ok i pfidner queue now

[swift storm]

I pfinder queue tmrw when irlok becomes irnot

Now I can actually have some freeedom to play Hailey or whatever 🙏

[elfin garnet]

clearly it's spelled euoae and then random letters
liek euoaeauauoauau

[swift storm]

ty

i think that word has too many vowels and not enough consonants

[digital pelican]

Yahya offensive support that debuffs enemies with mushrooms

[swift storm]

ava support
lmb throws wrenches or smth
rmb like is some sort of supporting ability
shift is fly (bird)
ult is growing the big tree

[dusty temple]

and im getting blammed by no reason

[elfin garnet]

ender paw jumpscare

[tawdry zinc]

avg pfinder

[tawdry zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897193043004899379/1313925944817225819/holy_cookies.gif

[dusty temple]

hi ender paw

[tawdry zinc]

I AM ender c law do NOT listen to jackie balls

[elfin garnet]

listen to jackie balls

😇

[tawdry zinc]

EVIl jackie balls

[elfin garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897193043004899379/1313925944817225819/holy_cookies.gif

[dusty temple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897193043004899379/1313925944817225819/holy_cookies.gif

25 head on 1081 im so good at claiming

[digital pelican]

I can't believe people are tryharding the three week long funny christmas event

[paper epoch]

if that's how they wanna enjoy it i dont see any particular issue with that

[pseudo sun]

don’t play it if you got a problem with it

[coarse epoch]

Endersynth is so braindead

He sits on the game all day complaining

Can’t wait for the nerfs to not be enough 🙏

[tawdry zinc]

yikes

[vast valve]

would be cool if theres a ranked and unranked version for tryhards and ppl who wanna play casually for fun but the playerbase isnt too big for the minigame for that im guessing

[digital pelican]

I wouldn't either but it's getting to the point where they're actively telling people to switch characters when they start losing which is veering on like
actual toxicity

[pseudo sun]

then just tell them to get a life and cope

[swift storm]

nah bro i queued 3 games in a row with endersynth and he complained abt his team on every single one of them

[dusty temple]

skull

[swift storm]

it's lowk insane how hero shooters bring out the worst in ppl tho

like banish the beyond and battle for obnfire were so chill

[dusty temple]

average pvp game ngl

[elfin garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162564880583381133/1301423238840061952/watermark.gif

fps game audiences r more toxic

[swift storm]

yea

thats why i like dont play pvp games these days

js chill games

imo wynn is like a decently chill game

[pseudo sun]

i think we need more pvp games

[elfin garnet]

blitz sg when everyone has to 'pick good fights' and borderline cross team to win 🤯

[swift storm]

i js feel like esp fps get so toxic

[vernal harness]

btfb was simple but it was honestly the best experience ive had on wynn minis ngl

[elfin garnet]

btfb too boring

we love backshots t the byeond

[swift storm]

but js person vs person makes toxic communities like there r ppl raging on chess yk

yea lowk btb overrated imo

i liked bonfire it was chill

but btb is good js not to grind yk

[elfin garnet]

warh

[forest jungle]

Can we get a game mode where gawrick is only character

[pseudo sun]

irlok would be more interesting

[forest jungle]

As an irlok player

No

Irlok ditto is so boring

Since none of the main strats work on other irloks

[dusty temple]

we could even cooperate with spirit in btb what a friendly game

[prime vapor]

only doctor legendary gameplay
infinite peashooters and infinite explosions

[vernal harness]

can we get a game mode where hailey is the only usable character and name it the last supper

[forest jungle]

You could literally only kill with shift ability

Brilliant

[pseudo sun]

what if it was only toms and the game turned into a cod parody

or cs

[coarse epoch]

why dont we call it irlok vs irlok instead of blizzard brawl

[pseudo sun]

funny how people quit when they see my irlok

doesn’t make it fun 😦

[coarse epoch]

irlok also doenst make it fun lol

not fun having a champ with 100% pr

just gets stale

look at league atleast with league u have bans and kassadin 96% ban rate was the most cancer time ever

[elfin garnet]

me wwhen i go dr li and give irlork backshots 🥱

[pseudo sun]

me destroying every irlok main with my boy tom

[digital pelican]

honestly I cannot figure out how to play dr li well for the life of me
he just feels like a clunkier mix of irlok and tom

[elfin garnet]

dr li my bekoved

[tawdry zinc]

boy TOM and dr li backshotter vs twink ass irlock

who WINS

@elfin garnet you decide

[loud ravine]

Helicopter into middle of teamfight mech left click then spam right click

[elfin garnet]

twink ass irlok 😭

tom would give frontshots to everyone fr

[tawdry zinc]

shotgun shots

[bitter vector]

stand next to ppl and hold down right click

[elfin garnet]

this is true

[pseudo sun]

❌

[elfin garnet]

silllly

[pseudo sun]

you have NOT seen me remove irlok players rights

[loud ravine]

Tom x irlok fanfic when

[elfin garnet]

irlork woud lose fr

[tawdry zinc]

i love doing that

[eager grotto]

you do realize you are under no particular obligation to play the game

if you are not finding the game fun I would suggest playing something else

or perhaps going outside

[shy spoke]

I love gawrick but honestly, the effort to reward ratio is just, pretty horrible atm

[elfin garnet]

this is what irlork does to a man with no mobility 😔

[shy spoke]

Is Gawrick going to get any buff in the upcoming patch?

[elfin garnet]

not so far

he needs a rewrk fr