and then you can't give the team overhealth
#Blizzard Brawl Official Feedback Thread
wooden cloud
Entering mech form without doing that also kinda sucks because you lose 30% movement speed so you're forced to just take damage
So you have to like coordinate the entire team to do some push and glide in with mech form or just spam it from the back lines and give everybody overhealth
loud ravine
Goofy ahh
umbral junco
spice cove
they need to nerf tom more -10 damage on ult aint gonna change much
wooden cloud
Personally think the ultimate should just get reworked or something
But that's a lot of work
spring steppe
I think it's fine
could change other parts I was thinking longer duration between shots
because lmb rmb is very powerful
tawdry zinc
ults fine i think now
scarlet cedar
I think Tom is really fun but there’s just always a downtime where you can’t attack. I think the damage per hit should go down but you can regen ammo by getting successful shots or something
spring steppe
imo that's not the right way to go about nerfing his kit
spring steppe
yeah I personally suggested bigger shotgun spread and fall-off on lmb
vast valve
This is the best minigame you guys have ever created btw
Yeah my ping does make it not easy to aim but it's super fun
swift storm
I wish Dr legendary had an incentive for mech mode beyond js the over health at the start cause the smash feels underwhelming
I also think the meaningful meal should be more visually highlighted cause like no one is picking those up when I throw them
elfin garnet
So you have to like coordinate the entire team to do some push and glide in with...
yeah i played with vro for a while but he is kinda easily burst down
its not ideal to stay in mech form for long cuz -30 speed no helicopter and the lmb attack in mech has a long cooldown so u never get to use it more than once (unless u just tank a shit ton of dmg)
swift storm
But I rly like this game
elfin garnet
I also think the meaningful meal should be more visually highlighted cause like ...
yeah this is known
swift storm
Bless
elfin garnet
i think its fine that dr legendary has to swap in and out of his mech a lot but it does feel alittle silly at times
swift storm
What's ur favorite class so far
I'm still tryna decide who to main
To me it's like pretty clear Theo Tom and irlok are really good but Theo gameplay feels like brain dead shift spam
Also like everyone wants to play irlok yk
I should give the fire guy another chance it felt like his damage was low tho
prime vapor
rickeo is pretty nice I'd say
unless you're getting pressure from multiple people or fistfighting another rick you can just. keep going and going and going.
swift storm
What's easiest class to get kills on I need to fix my cooked kdr from when I was trying each character
spring steppe
casual players version of btb
loud ravine
I feel like the fast win thing is a bit too harsh
(like less rewards for winning fast)
spice cove
end theo
spring steppe
I feel like the fast win thing is a bit too harsh
prevents farmers
realistically theres no way ur getting a <5m win in a real match
faint wharf
just played a game against a guy that took 0 dmg 0 kb and had no health bar
what a bug
spice cove
bruh lightbender so op
why can they
stun you
make themselves invincible
health themselves
do crazy damage
loud ravine
realistically theres no way ur getting a <5m win in a real match
Well uh thats what I did
anyway is movement bugged rn
dashing once with irlok(with 1 harmony) sends me flying off the edge of the map
at least across a majority of the width of the arena
spice cove
i think this game would be like fine balanced if shield was seriously just removed and changed its so silly
spice cove
pls remove the penalty for fast games what if the other team is just bad this game was like 3 minutes
vocal palm
bruh lightbender so op
what is lightbender
vocal palm
he has 0 lightbender qualities
vocal palm
not healing based
vocal palm
pls remove the penalty for fast games what if the other team is just bad this ga...
3 for 3 minutes feels off
its not meant to be that severe
vocal palm
youd have gotten i think 6 currency if the game wasnt so short
spice cove
again one super fast lol
loud ravine
i think this game would be like fine balanced if shield was seriously just remov...
shield is fine tbh if its not spammable
spice cove
its aaaaaaaaa
loud ravine
You can just, walk into the shield. And kill them
It's mainly good against ranged attacks or ults
elfin garnet
What's ur favorite class so far
haily for stu pid kb kills and scuffed healing(WHY THE FUCK R PROJS SO SLOW 😭 ) or dr legerndary for funnny helicopter
i havent trlly tried anyone else tho lol
loud ravine
I wish Dr legendary had an incentive for mech mode beyond js the over health at ...
Idk why its inconsistent but the mech has the potential to do massive damage
idk sometimes when Im in the middle of a group of people
I just do a shit ton of explosions
elfin garnet
the lmb attack on mech is sooo fucking slow tho
elfin garnet
i mean the cooldowon
loud ravine
something somehow causes it to shoot multiple times
elfin garnet
the attack itself is workable
loud ravine
really quick
yeah ik
im just saying that maybe its just everything being mega chaotic but something seems to make the mech shoot much faster when in a group
maybe a projectile explodes on each target hit or smth? or Im just misremembering
I think it would be cool if the mechs attacks could be stored
or smth
vast valve
realistically theres no way ur getting a <5m win in a real match
idr the time but we won a game pretty quickly and i only got 2 shards
although the enemy team had 1 disconnected so
faint wharf
It’s actually kind of punishing to win a game quickly when it comes to shards
vocal palm
haily for stu pid kb kills and scuffed healing(WHY THE FUCK R PROJS SO SLOW 😭 )...
(WHY THE FUCK R PROJS SO SLOW 😭 )
bug lol
fixed on new worlds actually
its an issue that applies to most projectiles in the game
its fixed for... irlok lmb, hailey rmb, theorick lmb, and dr legendary mech rmb so far
didnt have time to apply it to everything else before todays last hotfix
broken bone
139
loud ravine
thats sorta a teamate issue
broken bone
It's like the connivers kunai in tf2
It makes the experience just that much worse
If a single person dies to the lightbender even by assist it's literally never getting killed again
loud ravine
ig main strat is to single them out and get up close
vocal palm
why is everyone calling it a lightbender
broken bone
broken bone
why is everyone calling it a lightbender
It heals and it has a wand icon, by all accounts it's a lighbender
broken bone
its fixed for... irlok lmb, hailey rmb, theorick lmb, and dr legendary mech rmb ...
Also this is goated, I didn't notice irlok was bugged but man I LOVE the class
prime vapor
It heals and it has a wand icon, by all accounts it's a lighbender
and it.... is an ice cube........
Gawrick is the wand icon
elfin garnet
jit is not a lightbender..
sour night
i actually love the complexity of dr li
its just really hard to remember that lmb and f do different things in and out and f mech
vernal harness
irlok is crazy
elfin garnet
that's just a bug that happens sometimes fr
dusty temple
ahhhh
pseudo sun
is it possible to highlight teammates
i had like a game where a theorick was trying to fight their own team and ignored the enemy team
elfin garnet
also r the mobiltytrinkets going to have a debuff when outside of the festival
loud ravine
its just really hard to remember that lmb and f do different things in and out a...
Wait the f does different things too??? That's why it didn't seem like the ultimate worked when I was trying to use it
elfin garnet
is it possible to highlight teammates
i had like a game where a theorick was try...
I think I alr asked this and they said no :(
pfinder is so dumb
sour night
Wait the f does different things too??? That's why it didn't seem like the ultim...
yeah as engineer its a missile launcher
elfin garnet
I'm just playing 6 stacks but idk how long plp will stay interested lol
loud ravine
What's the two ultimates
sour night
as mech its 3 shockwaves
pseudo sun
i had 2 people in my party that were attacking their own team, it looked like they were baritoning too with how they traced me when i was moving
loud ravine
is it possible to highlight teammates
i had like a game where a theorick was try...
Doesn't help there's no team indicator
elfin garnet
💀
yeah I just have to remember a teammate and then in chilling but it's kind of annoying for new players
pseudo sun
and i STILL see players attacking with their main weapon which concerns me that they don’t do the tutorial
elfin garnet
I think mabye you could give a piece of wool or smth that is your team color t
would be scuffed but would work ig
loud ravine
I've spent like half of the first skirmishes trying to figure out which team I'm on
elfin garnet
and i STILL see players attacking with their main weapon which concerns me that ...
ngl I skipped the tutorial too cuz the npcs were bugged for me
I was so confused on where the minkgame was 💀☠️💀☠️
pseudo sun
i think the tutorial should be a required thing before queueing the event, no?
loud ravine
I think that's fair
loud ravine
I think mabye you could give a piece of wool or smth that is your team color t
...
Or just put a extra piece of text somewhere in the upper menu
pseudo sun
i think the tutorial npc should be in a very obvious place as well as it being a required test before queueing
loud ravine
as mech its 3 shockwaves
Are the shockwaves good?
I only know the missle launcher can be really good in tight areas
elfin garnet
Or just put a extra piece of text somewhere in the upper menu
provably bolding the color that you are on would be good
missile is better imo
vocal palm
i think the tutorial should be a required thing before queueing the event, no?
the problem with this is it doesnt interact well with party finder
elfin garnet
but both hav their uses
loud ravine
I'll need to test that next time I'm on
dusty temple
ngl I skipped the tutorial too cuz the npcs were bugged for me
same 😭
elfin garnet
also what is the radius on hailyes ult it feels so inconsistent sometimes but I might just be silly
sour night
Are the shockwaves good?
I only know the missle launcher can be really good in t...
its kinda hard to tell that its launching imo
loud ravine
Oh yeah the ability to switch classes mid game is certainly a interesting feature
vocal palm
also what is the radius on hailyes ult it feels so inconsistent sometimes but I ...
you have the class browser. it has 99% of the numbers in the game
sour night
we should have orphion light pulses frfr
elfin garnet
I jsut got off :3
vocal palm
its kinda hard to tell that its launching imo
could add a cool charging visual title
cause it does sounds
but those are easily missed
pseudo sun
gotta cope if there’s no solution then
loud ravine
its kinda hard to tell that its launching imo
Ig. Once it does start its pretty obvious tho
dusty temple
dr leg being the only one i havent tried just because it looks so complex
vocal palm
dr legendary was the class that took the longest to get the item tooltips set up for
elfin garnet
yea its just big textblx jumpscare
loud ravine
Leap in to protect teamates and help in mech form
vocal palm
it is simpler than it looks, mainly cause there arent too many abilities you need to pay attention to
pseudo sun
also is it just me or does hailey’s knockback literally just tp’s you from point a to point b without actually being kb
vernal harness
is it possible to highlight all players in your ultimate range when you charge up
vocal palm
also is it just me or does hailey’s knockback literally just tp’s you from point...
was bugged on old worlds\
vocal palm
is it possible to highlight all players in your ultimate range when you charge u...
nope
vernal harness
dang
pseudo sun
ok i presume it’s fixed now
vernal harness
its kinda hard to use the wall piercing stuff then
vocal palm
we cannot dynamically highlight players, they'd need to glow for everyone or for no one
vernal harness
aaa
loud ravine
Switch out of mech when you find some space to poke a bit and gain helicopter stacks then helicopter back in when mech health has regened and repeat is my strategy
elfin garnet
oh yeah can you make it so when you respawn you face outwards into the map instead of towards the void
loud ravine
Sometimes players flash highlighted randomly for me
vocal palm
that happens when they take damage
loud ravine
Ooh
vocal palm
its a weird damage animation, im not sure why its there
vocal palm
I think mabye you could give a piece of wool or smth that is your team color t
...
an option i had suggested to me was to make enemy nametags always red
but that might get confusing cause theres a red team
vocal palm
maybe
loud ravine
Honestly just some sorts indicator for what team you're on in the ui would be fine
pseudo sun
also how does tom’s bomb aoe work exactly, majority of the time it’s like right next to enemies but they don’t get hit
it’s always a direct body hit that lands
vocal palm
that doesnt really help with visibility
elfin garnet
yeah :3
vocal palm
also how does tom’s bomb aoe work exactly, majority of the time it’s like right ...
lol
its not an aoe :3
(i dont know why)
pseudo sun
why does it look like an explosion
vocal palm
idk!!!
pseudo sun
wtf
vocal palm
it SHOULD be an aoe. you are so right
elfin garnet
oh yeah can you make it so when you respawn you face outwards into the map inste...
also PLEAASE I'm so silly I need this
loud ravine
I've specifically used it only as a aoe
vocal palm
oh yeah can you make it so when you respawn you face outwards into the map inste...
yeah this has been an annoyance
what it does is
loud ravine
To hit around corners and hit crowds
pseudo sun
man this makes it so hard to hit especially when it has a curved trajectory
vocal palm
it doesnt set your yaw
pseudo sun
it’s so poopy
vocal palm
so youre facing the same direction you were facing in spectator
elfin garnet
it’s so poopy
elfin garnet
so youre facing the same direction you were facing in spectator
oh buh 💀
pseudo sun
elfin garnet
that sounds like a not that hard fix then
also also can you make your vanilla health bar represent your hp or is wynnjank preventing that
vocal palm
wynnjank probably
pseudo sun
irlock’s freefall also feels wonky to aim without chi support
the aoe for the most part is underwhelming
it’s kinda awkward to land once you’re in the air? i wouldn’t say it’s a big problem but paired with the base aoe it has, it’s basically kinda just a mobility skill with a slight chance of getting a direct hit
vocal palm
50% chance its getting messed up by the projectile issue
dusty temple
dr legendary was the class that took the longest to get the item tooltips set up...
can tell
dr legendary looks pretty unkillable in either team lol
vernal harness
the aoe for the most part is underwhelming
what no
its genuinely such a powerful tool for picking off low hp enemies
pseudo sun
it gets powerful if you actually invest in building up height
vernal harness
like ive gotten crazy killing streaks just with the thing alone
pseudo sun
but base freefall makes it kinda hard to hit anyone
vernal harness
hard to hit is true
pseudo sun
hm time to see the difference later
elfin garnet
how far do u need to fall to get that wtf
pseudo sun
now i gotta make sure to not overshoot my freefall forward
vernal harness
for me i just stay away from enemies most of the time
and when i see people with mid-low hp i just shift to their side and use rc
it kills most of the time
pseudo sun
how far do u need to fall to get that wtf
i think it’s around 7 blocks idk
loud ravine
the aoe for the most part is underwhelming
It's mostly guarunteed hit for me/ free teamwipes if I get a lot of stacks
vocal palm
its based on air time
vernal harness
only issue i have with irlok rn is right click having some weird hitboxes
and lc just not working most of the time
loud ravine
It's my main stack building tool tbh since melee is ass
vernal harness
^
pseudo sun
i think 1 chi vertically is enough?
vernal harness
melee is ass so true actually,,
vocal palm
and lc just not working most of the time
this should be fixed in newer worlds
pseudo sun
also yeah melee is really slow
loud ravine
When that happens irlok will take over
vernal harness
yeah absolutely
pseudo sun
but idk if recent worlds changed it
loud ravine
The irloks will irlok all over the place
vocal palm
its the projectile bug i keep talking about
vernal harness
i was already having a blast with crippled irlok
vernal harness
its the projectile bug i keep talking about
ohh
vocal palm
its been fixed for irlok lmb, theo lmb, hailey rmb, dr legendary mech rmb
vernal harness
i should really try li
pseudo sun
good to hear
loud ravine
Smack em into the wall with dash hit them with melee repeat
vocal palm
it applies to lots of other things but i
did not have time
dash no longer always stuns btw
it used to always stun. lol
pseudo sun
yeah that’s fine
loud ravine
It stunned?
pseudo sun
it was broken anyway
vernal harness
yea
loud ravine
Damn
vernal harness
it is pretty dang broken
vocal palm
it now only stuns if you slam them into a wall with 4 or 5 harmony
vocal palm
that might have been to harsh a nerf, we'll see
open to giving back a base stun on maybe 5 harmony
dusty temple
is it only me that gawrick ult sometimes just disappear
vernal harness
i used it after i shift to their place and i just point blank slam them into a wall
loud ravine
Slamming into a wall js kinda hard unless in a tight space tho ngl(mostly cause of lag and dash hitboxes)
vernal harness
yea
vocal palm
which kind of sucks
pseudo sun
i think stun should be on its own separate cd
vocal palm
i might petition sockmower to remove that
loud ravine
I mean you're gawrick you have mega speed you probably shouldn't be getting stunned imo
vernal harness
when i played theo rc was kinda hard to hit tho
maybe i just suck at aiming
same reason i suck at tom
vocal palm
it is a bit hard
pseudo sun
I mean you're gawrick you have mega speed you probably shouldn't be getting stun...
me when my gawricks completely stand still in my games
vocal palm
i dont think its a problem, its just how it is
loud ravine
I use corners and stuff to get people to walk straight
vernal harness
yea ig
dusty temple
it murders your ult
what the fuck
loud ravine
The knockback is real nice
vernal harness
man i swear some tom users are the most op things in existence
dusty temple
i took twice as others time to charge an ult but you are telling me a guy's stun can easily murder my ult
vocal palm
here's a fun fact
vocal palm
as of latest patch tom's attacks no longer charge ult. only tom. i dont know why its only tom. but it is.
dusty temple
i only did 12 healing on last game on gawrick LMAO
vocal palm
(this is a bug)
loud ravine
man i swear some tom users are the most op things in existence
Tom is like playing a tactical shooter somebody will either be ass and never hit or be sniper tf2 bots
pseudo sun
i think ilrok’s ult should hit players through walls 
vernal harness
as of latest patch tom's attacks no longer charge ult. only tom. i dont know why...
SO THATS WHY I HAD NO ULTS ON TOM
vernal harness
i think ilrok’s ult should hit players through walls <:saltroll:8276209103914926...
i thought it did
dusty temple
IT DID
vocal palm
i dont know why what sockmower did to ult charge rates happened to break ONLY tom
dusty temple
ilrok's ult is just tom's but better
vernal harness
punished for using live rounds
pseudo sun
i thought it did
every time i try to ult people through those damn pillars on point it doesn’t hit them
vernal harness
irloks ult is just toms but you can push everyone off into the void in the 2nd point
dusty temple
i literally saw a air shout pierce through wall and i got hit then the void it is
vocal palm
i wonder if i buffed irlok's ult damage too much
steel cosmos
i dont know why what sockmower did to ult charge rates happened to break ONLY to...
if (character == "Tom") { noUltimateChargeThankYou(); }
like... obviously...?
loud ravine
It's funny as fuck though
vocal palm
its probably fine
elfin garnet
``if (character == "Tom") { noUltimateChargeThankYou(); }``
like... obviously......
just press the fix game button smh CT overpaid volunteers...
vernal harness
god kbing everyone off with irloks ult is genuinely so funny
loud ravine
It isss
loud ravine
The b and d points are perfect for it
pseudo sun
yeah i got like a whole 1 tom ult in like a 15min game
all this time i thought it was the base ult charge nerfs
elfin garnet
randomly kbimg with Hailey is better >:)
elfin garnet
Hailey is so silly
dusty temple
hailey is 100x fun than gawrick and easier idk how
vocal palm
hailey is op right now
pseudo sun
randomly kbimg with Hailey is better >:)
i hate hailey players when i’m on point and 2s later i tp into the void
vocal palm
needs heavy nerfs
vocal palm
mainly to self sustain tbh
vernal harness
evil
elfin garnet
garrick just is not the best at healing fr
vocal palm
well thats fine hes not meant to be
loud ravine
randomly kbimg with Hailey is better >:)
Haily is less kb more just teleports you to the shadow realm
dusty temple
whats garrick best at
vocal palm
speed
dusty temple
does speed make me not being shot by tom
vernal harness
i only did 12 healing on last game on gawrick LMAO
i just realized i did more healing than you as irlok
loud ravine
mainly to self sustain tbh
Btw can the duration on the overheal be buffed with how quick it goes only you can use it tbh
vocal palm
does speed make me not being shot by tom
if youre good enough yes
elfin garnet
mainly to self sustain tbh
yeah when projectiles get fixed on all worlds soon tm Hailey getting nuked should be cool
dusty temple
if youre good enough yes
😭
vocal palm
Btw can the duration on the overheal be buffed with how quick it goes only you c...
like the item on the ground?
i could do that yeah
vernal harness
does speed make me not being shot by tom
nope they picked the homing arrows node
loud ravine
Yeah. I kinda wish it was like bard in lol where it would increase over time
vernal harness
also just me or tom rc feels a bit weird
vernal harness
can toms ult just take a point immediately by destroying it
pseudo sun
and compensation for the ult bug
loud ravine
i could do that yeah
Thx
dusty temple
i just realized i did more healing than you as irlok
i could just play Rickeo for healing seriously
damage people also means healing on the other side!
vernal harness
oh hell nah rickeo ,,,
pseudo sun
me as a tom player going onto the tallest building on the map, only to snipe everyone on sight
(i got a 30k from this)
vernal harness
me as a tom player going onto the tallest building on the map, only to snipe eve...
tom players on arches in point b and d killing everyone in existence with lmb
so peak
spring steppe
(has anyone else noticed that tom doesn't charge ult meter from dealing dmg yet)
vernal harness
yep
vocal palm
yea i just mentioned it in here
vernal harness
in fact were
loud ravine
Sniping is kinda hard since your attacks cover less area. With the amount of players running straight at you in this game ground level is better imo
vocal palm
cause i thought it was funny
pseudo sun
can tom’s rmb be longer range
loud ravine
I love it when theoricks run straight at me and I just lc spam them down as they leave their shield
vernal harness
i wish theos i met left their shield
loud ravine
Alternatively just enter their shield and do the same thing(though you risk being jumped by the whole enemy team)
elfin garnet
also y do u charge ult in the pregame when you choose your classes? u can get like 40% ult charge before leaving the base as Hailey if someone takes long enough kind of silly for people who r reading abilities
pseudo sun
irlok at 5 chi charging in vs theorick with one fresh shield in front of them
who wins
slim hound
Theorick is healing go brrr no you can’t kill me unless you quick drop me
loud ravine
Wait does shield block dash
vernal harness
the tom player on the side wins
pseudo sun
yes
spring steppe
shield is super oppressive for irlok
pseudo sun
and ult
vernal harness
just me or rickeo feels so bad to fight against
spring steppe
but irlok is the new tom so
loud ravine
shield blocks basically anything from irlok
What if you free fall beside the shield and catch them in the aoe
pseudo sun
just me or rickeo feels so bad to fight against
pin them to the wall with irlok ezpz
pseudo sun
What if you free fall beside the shield and catch them in the aoe
still blocks
loud ravine
Darn it
pseudo sun
you gotta freefall above the shield
vernal harness
cooked
loud ravine
just me or rickeo feels so bad to fight against
Rickeo is my least favourite class rn
Abilities are fine on their own but shit does not fit together
pseudo sun
literally couldn’t win a game because team didn’t kill healer the entire time and was constantly healing the tank
it was cooked
elfin garnet
the hailey that pockets theorick:
my beloved
pseudo sun
i had like 50 kills that game and still lost
elfin garnet
I pfindered into a guy named theorick with theorick skin and using theorick
and I pocket heald the shi out of him very silly
pseudo sun
was he using theorick hood
loud ravine
Abilities are fine on their own but shit does not fit together
It's meant to be good against groups but the only group damage rickeo has is a dash that'll overshoot 90% of the time with a 1 year chargetime.
pseudo sun
❌❌❌❌❌
loud ravine
Ult is cool tho
elfin garnet
Rickeo is fine I feel
loud ravine
I pfindered into a guy named theorick with theorick skin and using theorick
I saw them
Yeah
elfin garnet
it might be a bit of a noovstomper for people who group up
pseudo sun
rickeo felt underwhelming to me
it felt like he relied REALLY hard on his DoT effects
vocal palm
It's meant to be good against groups but the only group damage rickeo has is a d...
projectile bug :)
loud ravine
Rickeos dash and melee feel really clunky
vernal harness
It's meant to be good against groups but the only group damage rickeo has is a d...
i cannot count how many times i accidentally scooted into the void with rickeo dash
loud ravine
projectile bug :)
It's all the projectile bugs fault
Everything leads back to projectile bug
vernal harness
bravo wynncraft ct
vocal palm
it makes the dashes launch you farther than intended
loud ravine
That happened for me with irlok
elfin garnet
ok I never dashed into the void but I feel like he's fine
he has less dps than other dmg classes but more sustain so it fine!
loud ravine
1 harmony dash sent me flying off
vernal harness
ok I never dashed into the void but I feel like he's fine
he has less dps than o...
does he really though ,
spring steppe
me when the 1 harmony dash can get you max slam dmg
elfin garnet
meleeing on irlok is just skill/bug issue fr
when you fight against people who hit they melees consistently i get dpsed so fast on Hailey fr
pseudo sun
it makes the dashes launch you farther than intended
wait so me thinking that holding right click on irloks dash gave me a longer boost was false???
vocal palm
yes
elfin garnet
lo
vernal harness
so was i supposed to be able to travel from spawn to the c point's health bag location in one irlok jump
pseudo sun
yes
grizzled dune
actually insane to think about how much effort went into this game
dr legendary alone seems like a headache to design
i LOVE tom, theorick is very unfun, and irlok (the bantisu monk guy) is super cool in concept but way too strong i think
pseudo sun
irlok is way weaker now that perma stun is gone
grizzled dune
knockback from abilities and ult can hit you off the map from basically anywhere, his ability to regen mid-fight just by soaring into the air is cool skill expresson but also very strong, and has little counterplay since only a few characters cna even hit him that high (and it takes good aim)
grizzled dune
irlok is way weaker now that perma stun is gone
i dont even know what that is and it doesnt matter
its day 1 of the festival
grizzled dune
yea well if ur not on tom good luck getting a good pfinder tom
also irlok just kinda plays well into tom
if you dive him
tom has fun counterplay with his right click mobility, but still
pseudo sun
tom can still somewhat nuke irlok with rmb
it takes time to learn but it’s still a good class to use against irlok
especially when irlok can’t stunlock anymore, people got more freedom to attack back at him
dusty temple
rickeo feels so weak when people started to iriok
pseudo sun
how much air time does freefall need to max
spring steppe
thought it was based on distance fallen
spring steppe
you'd have to fall from like the top of the ladder area maybe
pseudo sun
if only freefall had longer vertical distance when looking up
that’d actually be good
spring steppe
anyways I think assuming similar skill level irlok 9/10 times stomps tom
loud ravine
holy irlok melee works now
orchid skiff
ngl this seasonal rating is getting doomed by the end of this festival
no way its already this harsh
orchid skiff
this years blizzard token prices are gonna be wild
dusty temple
😭
shrewd willow
2-3 score
orchid skiff
fix ratings ;3
eager grotto
i dont really know whats broken with em tbh
dusty temple
im too deep into the minigame that almost forget to do annie
elfin garnet
dr legendary m beloved
eager grotto
nice
elfin garnet
jits not thart bad he doesnt even need that much healing compared to therck
but the shield is so groarted
eager grotto
even post patch?
elfin garnet
yeah
eager grotto
maybe it needs an HP reduction
vast valve
for some reason some parts of the song breaks my fps (at least i think its the song), other than toggling music is there a way to fix it?
eager grotto
the.. song?
vast valve
yeah
dusty temple
whats the trick that nuking people when you are in mech form
vast valve
some parts of the song is breaking my fps no idea why
eager grotto
the song shouldn't be affecting your FPS
dusty temple
dr leg sometimes can nuke people with right click in mech form and i believe i did that
vast valve
the song shouldn't be affecting your FPS
the clock dungeon song also breaks my fps if that helps
dusty temple
also being did that lol
elfin garnet
oh
vast valve
afaik only those 2 songs does that to me
vast valve
oh, maybe its just that my laptop is shitty then idk
elfin garnet
dr leg sometimes can nuke people with right click in mech form and i believe i d...
i just heli to aggro onto someone then swap to mech and spam right click and then left click onto them and then get out of mech fr
vast valve
maybe its that that part is loud or has too many instruments at once or something not sure
vast valve
its fine if its not fixable btw, ill toggle music and listen from yt when it gets released there
vocal palm
maybe it needs an HP reduction
reduce hp and hp drain by like half each
dusty temple
i just heli to aggro onto someone then swap to mech and spam right click and the...
insane
vocal palm
shield still lives the same duration, but it can be more easily broken
eager grotto
true
loud ravine
dr leg sometimes can nuke people with right click in mech form and i believe i d...
Yeah
idk what it is
dusty temple
found the t0s usually
have some temporally healing way
have movement skill
high brust damage
vocal palm
the rockets are pretty strong
loud ravine
Like
dusty temple
dr legendary and irolk
vocal palm
oh hm
dusty temple
7s 40 aoe damage
dusty temple
5 rockets in quick succession
yeah
loud ravine
Also irlok os so fun
vocal palm
7s 40 aoe damage
this may be too strong tbh
loud ravine
really good carry
loud ravine
what u referring to
vocal palm
max air time freefall slam
elfin garnet
oh
dusty temple
really good carry
im not sure if its guaranteed when you free slam right after you kick upward
wait wrong reply
i mean the strong one
im not sure if its guarateed 40damage
elfin garnet
the tech to freefal after u fget launched b hailey >:)
loud ravine
I think its very balanced
loud ravine
doesnt one shot
even from tall heights
but a good finisher
you generally need to follow up with a good dash hit
elfin garnet
btu ti does do hella dmg so idt the radisu should be 8 blocks(if i remmebr correctly)
dusty temple
waht is this refferingt o
i meant free slam but yeah
eager grotto
elfin garnet
hmmm
elfin garnet
sorr i dont speak smart people
loud ravine
I sorta get it
dusty temple
being bullied by the trick
joined the trick
started to bully people with the trick
i can fking kill a tom in 3s
eager grotto
what trick
dusty temple
irolk
loud ravine
be annoying with gawrick instead
dusty temple
kick upward then free slam to get max air
eager grotto
real
loud ravine
tell me when someone figures out the funny rocket barrage on mech
elfin garnet
hmm
loud ravine
okay its just the direct hit effect
dusty temple
lol the private party does not work on pf?
loud ravine
okay its just the direct hit effect
Hitting a enemy directly sets off multiple explosions effects
dusty temple
Hitting a enemy directly sets off multiple explosions effects
holy shity
i can nuke 54damage on people lmao
but since it fly too slow i think its worth
sour night
dr legendary m beloved
theorick my beloved
i may have killed 2 people while at 4 hp during that game
eager grotto
gg
I'm glad people are enjoying the game
was low-key worried people would hate it and prefer wynnter fest minigames lol
sour night
was low-key worried people would hate it and prefer wynnter fest minigames lol
i dont think that thats possible
sour night
/class
sour night
i accidentally dropped the gun over the fence lmao
eager grotto
this is not tutorialing
where are you getting stuck?
eager grotto
shouldn't be
- The rating system will be receiving a few tweaks in the next patch to punish losing players less harshly
wraith latch
was low-key worried people would hate it and prefer wynnter fest minigames lol
Your efforts are highly appreciated and we all love the mini game you guys put so much effort into. Thank you ✨
vernal harness
was low-key worried people would hate it and prefer wynnter fest minigames lol
nope its fun
vernal harness
goomba stomping people is one hell of an experience
glad basin
the dilemma of wanting to collect achievements but not feeling like playing the game
eager grotto
are people enjoying the achievements system btw
it was kind of a last minute "yeah i got 45 minutes to add random shit" addition
dusty temple
empty pier
points can cap with opposing team on it 
eager grotto
points can cap with opposing team on it <:steamhappy:1106821408216055848>
this is an intended change 
empty pier
why is that intentional
eager grotto
games were stalling out too long
empty pier
all around negative change
eager grotto
the formula is:
point_gain = (1.5 * (friendly_players_on_point / total_players_on_point) * sqrt(friendly_players_on_point))
applied to whichever team has more players on point at that moment
eager grotto
all around negative change
try playing a few more games with it and let me know if you still think the old one was better, I'm still open to changing the formulae
keep an open mind tho
loud ravine
points can cap with opposing team on it <:steamhappy:1106821408216055848>
what does this mean
orchid skiff
bro this hover booster...is goated
eager grotto
that's why he is the goat
empty pier
kinda feels like shit when you're completely solo on point and physically cannot stop enemies from completing the objective. imagine this type of logic in a game like OW or TF2
playerbase would love people being able to push the cart past the enemies that are supposed to contest it 😍
eager grotto
kinda feels like shit when you're completely solo on point and physically cannot...
do you not feel the game was stalling too much before
orchid skiff
its less stalling, kinda
empty pier
its not stalling as much sure but feels like complete bullshit
orchid skiff
if they defend well enough that they get the last platform/point it kinda just gets cooked :3
empty pier
i think its purely a product of the map being too small
orchid skiff
and yeah kb in this game is NUTS
(or you meant the distance to return to the capture points)
empty pier
distance to points
orchid skiff
maybe longer death timers and a temp speedboost
empty pier
just make respawn times scale quicker
orchid skiff
oh yeah that works too
empty pier
hailey's KB is buggy beyond belief as well
sometimes they get launched and instantly killed and other times you don't even move them when they're 2 blocks away
eager grotto
hailey's KB is buggy beyond belief as well
this is fixed already
empty pier
i just played a match where someone got pulled towards me
frail hollow
kinda feels like shit when you're completely solo on point and physically cannot...
absolutely true but it also feels shit for 3 players to be standing on the point and 1 guy hiding in the corner of the cap (out of sight btw) is able to stop it from being capped
empty pier
clip points so there's no cheese spots and add a highlight around players past a certain contest time
if the point has been contested and nobody has been dealt damage then the team with lower numbers should be highlighted
frail hollow
i was thinking they could keep the current system but make it so that people on the outside of the point cap slower
so the middle is more contested
empty pier
lol
the damage classes are already completely busted
therck + 2 damage + middle of point caps faster will lead to just turtling in the middle of point and shredding anyone who walks on
tom already deals 60 damage in some instances per shot
eager grotto
I'll wait and see if there is more feedback on it before changing things
loud ravine
therck + 2 damage + middle of point caps faster will lead to just turtling in th...
Counterpoint:
Irlok ult
empty pier
also buff hailey projectile speed 🙏
eager grotto
also buff hailey projectile speed 🙏
i think it already got a small buff on new servers
vast valve
will u guys make festival minigames permenant in the future? im enjoying this wayy too much compared to other festival minigames and im gonna miss it for the next 11 months
(also would be a great way to bring ppl that like minigames to the server)
sour night
are people enjoying the achievements system btw
yes
add them to main wynn frfr
bread enthusiast achievement when
I already did this shit with royal resident on sb
eager grotto
add them to main wynn frfr
lol yeah i want to at some point
but i dont think salt is super keen on the idea
eager grotto
will u guys make festival minigames permenant in the future? im enjoying this wa...
probably not unfortunately
vast valve
aw alr
sour night
hey @eager grotto what do i do with this theres like 3 in my bank from when i played dr li before
eager grotto
yea sorry about that
if you put them in your inventory and /class one should be removed each time
or click them
i think right clicking with them removes them
loud remnant
are people enjoying the achievements system btw
oh yea thats a rly awesome thing
(add achievements to the base game 🥺)
last geode
does matchmaking elo work at all
eager grotto
its not used for matchmaking
last geode
i thought it does
eager grotto
i can assure you it does not
last geode
also dr legendary is so confusing at first but it is very strong once you understand it
eager grotto
ya
last geode
this looks so confusing
cuz the 💪 is human form
and the font colour is also human form
eager grotto
ill check
loud ravine
cuz the 💪 is human form
thats mecha
no?
robot arm is mecha form
stick figure is human form
mecha is orange
human is green
scarlet cedar
Tom has an issue where you just spend a while waiting for ammo to reload with no way to heal or attack, its fine if you are in an area where you can do ranged damage but the center of the map doesnt have that because of the walls
shrewd willow
hmmmm I wonder how good an idea would be if health packs healed % of max health instead of flat 20 hp
kinda like they do in team fortress
scarlet cedar
I also just calculated that if you get an average of about 90 shards an hour it will take 17 HOURS to get the mythic trinket
that seems higher than spirits
last geode
also
tom can reach to the inside of the middle of the thing
annd it has very good control
dusty temple
isnt stick figure mecha
Its a 🦾 why is it human…
😭
Not every human have a 🦾 on them
dusty temple
Tom has an issue where you just spend a while waiting for ammo to reload with no...
Tom has an issue which is Irlok
exotic scroll
Tom has an issue where you just spend a while waiting for ammo to reload with no...
yea but tom has stupid big damage potential
scarlet cedar
thats why you could just decrease the damage per hit
eager grotto
maybe i should add a secret way to get to the original developer map which we didnt release
exotic scroll
maybe i should add a secret way to get to the original developer map which we di...
👁️
why
did it do singular eye
eager grotto
fun
exotic scroll
👀
eager grotto
i guess i can show you guys what it looked like
it was going to be an airship, players spawned on the right side of the map
the pink lines show tunnels which you couuld traverse and the magenta squares were the sites
dusty temple
omg second map
eager grotto
red arrows launched the player
eager grotto
omg second map
this was a map we played on during development but scrapped because it was apparently taking too long to get back to point
dusty temple
noooo
exotic scroll
looks cool
orchid skiff
this was a map we played on during development but scrapped because it was appar...
Ngl this is exactly what might be good now
eager grotto
thank you samuel
astral marlin
also if anybody is interested this is what the current map looked like during its greyboxing stage
still idol
glad basin
something that slightly annoys me is the fact that the current map isnt very festive besides the presence of snow in some bits
i wouldve liked a thematically appropriate map
lapis abyss
i instantly thought among us when i read airship
dusty temple
Make blizzard detlas a map
glad basin
originally the idea of this minigame was for it to be a "snowball fight" but i think it very quickly deviated from that concept
i also think the first class to be made was scrapped
theres some fun development history for this one
astral marlin
yeah halbert was scrapped early on
glad basin
hallfred*
astral marlin
oh lol
shrewd willow
to perfect balance we would need one more tank and one more support class
glad basin
i dont really remember what hallfreds gimmick was besides that he threw a shield that bounced off walls
maybe no more of him was ever developed
astral marlin
that was the gimmick, about as mechanically complex as tom
glad basin
but idk which of the three categories he wouldve fit into
dusty temple
Did rickeo ult share the same concept
astral marlin
I dont think ults were implemented by the time hallfred got axed
nvm he had one
he would have a bunch of shields around him kinda like arrow shield
they would fly around in a circle and you could hit people with them
dusty temple
Lightwea…
Sounds like a great tank concept
I am kinda shocked that there is no character’s gimmick is based on resistance
vital steppe
Shoulda added yahya
dusty temple
Or self buff/ally strength/resistance
shrewd willow
Shoulda added yahya
yahya as a support mmmm
suspicious soups
and his ult will be his final form
last geode
MMMMMMMMMMM
loud remnant
as much as i dislike shooters, especially when its the third shooter out of 4 event minigames, this one is very well executed
it looks cool, its more fun than the other 2 even for me
aside from balancing issues but those are, as always, unavoidable
gotta give it more tries in a couple days after more patches
glossy yoke
as much as i dislike shooters, especially when its the third shooter out of 4 ev...
i consider bonfire more melee although i suppose you do have quite a bit of range
heroes is similar, except depending on the weapon you pick you might get more range
blizzard brawl plays diff. to the other two
dusty temple
I love this minigame cause I used to love overwatch
loud remnant
well yea theyre obv not the same but all three boil down to shooting each other which, admittedly, i dont find very fun in general
dusty temple
And brawl stars
loud remnant
i used to play brawl stars as a kid tho lol
glossy yoke
i feel like my main complaint with the festival minigames is that
well
they're just kinda clones of existing games
BtB is very obvious in that regard
loud remnant
i dont find that to be an issue tbh
glossy yoke
this one also
dusty temple
And this one is less ping needed lol
eager grotto
i think BB is less egregious here
glossy yoke
(there are too many Bs in the festival games)
dusty temple
Like there are aoe classes
eager grotto
the classes are original
loud remnant
(there are too many Bs in the festival games)
TRUE literally unplayable
glossy yoke
i mean BtB has absolutely nailed the theming
the problem is that y'know
it is incredibly obvious that it's DBD
all of the basic game mechanics are the same
loud remnant
id rather have high quality copies of other games than low quality original ones
eager grotto
and now bb
loud remnant
most good niches are already taken so things are bound to be similar
glossy yoke
ye,
loud remnant
might as well give up on creativity
glad basin
we're renaming claim to heroism to "Battle" btw
loud remnant
this is like.. a minigame for a couple weeks of the year afer all
loud remnant
we're renaming claim to heroism to "Battle" btw
NOOOOOOOOOOOO MORE B
glossy yoke
i can't think of games that are similar to CtH and BftB
but like
BftB is very simple mechanically
it's hard to fit it into a genre because it's just kinda flat
loud remnant
bonfire is just take different things from different team vs team games
glossy yoke
having the minigames be genre is unavoidable
eager grotto
can people ping me with a single (1) concise message with their thoughts on the current state of balance in the game (after playing on a world that is less than 5 hours old)
glad basin
originally the game was called "Craftmas Clash" but the name was scrapped a couple weeks before release and replaced
dusty temple
BftB is like something MOBA games will have as their other gamemode
But it’s hard to say there was a similar concept
glad basin
iirc bftb was based on wizard fortress
glossy yoke
can people ping me with a single (1) concise message with their thoughts on the ...
my experience is that it's kind of hectic, i can't tell how skilled i am, and the classes are not balanced with respect to each other
the first week of minigame always has a bunch of balancing issues
i know it's been patched but theo and tom are really powerful apparently
i think the main issue is just, the absolute chaos,
glad basin
at least loosely
dusty temple
iirc bftb was based on wizard fortress
wtf I just searched and it was a game on wynn late 2014?
loud remnant
the absolute chaos is bound to happen in this type of game (largely why i dislike them but i still think its normal)
glossy yoke
i feel like this is even more hectic than the rest
it's probably because you're cramming 6 players in a tiny space
loud remnant
maybe yeah
glossy yoke
the battlefield is small
there's all these special abilities flying everywhere
people are getting thrown around, ults getting thrown up,
you can't tell what the heck is going on for your first few games
which is basically a guaranteed loss
this seems... not new-player friendly
dusty temple
can people ping me with a single (1) concise message with their thoughts on the ...
Can I ask what was implemented
glossy yoke
we're all new players so it's somewhat balanced
but some people just play a lot more
dusty temple
Between the 5hr worlds
I dunno if i was in one I was doing Irlok all along
Irlok brainrot is on me
last geode
can people ping me with a single (1) concise message with their thoughts on the ...
dr legendary is good for pfinder cuz mecha gives overhealth and his ult is like a nuke
irlok does funny shit with ladder and health regen and damage
theorick's barrier felt like should be an ult lol
tom's have some insane range
#1314529566877945866 message
health kit isnt mention in the tutorial, would be good if there is a tutorial abt that
also haliey kb is insane
orchid skiff
originally the game was called "Craftmas Clash" but the name was scrapped a coup...
Damn never got the chance to call it CraC…
forest jungle
was hailey healing nerfed in latest patch
last geode
The overheal from Hailey's food has been reduced (45->35)
Hailey's main attack healing has been decreased (3->2)
forest jungle
fire
I think the game still needs more health packs
so that hailey isnt 100% necessary
last geode
irlok health sustains on its own
forest jungle
not enough to matter imo
last geode
bc you could just shift at the ladder and it heals up to full in 5 seconds
his passive felt like weightless in 2.0
loud remnant
Damn never got the chance to call it CraC…
CRACK 🤤
dusty temple
ok why is irlok even better right now
harmony now affect the charge range wtf?
i didnt remember it did
last geode
who even is irlok canonically
acrobat in the minievent
but with insane health sustain
orchid skiff
Ngl wynns festival minigames feels like 2014-18? Ish minecraft servers can host allyear along
loud remnant
acrobat in the minievent
no i mean irlok like the character
dusty temple
ngl we literally won this cause irlok just too op
orchid skiff
~~aka im just feeling mineplex nostalgia ~~
forest jungle
isnt irlok the guy in the dojo quest
dusty temple
we even got pushed to the home
last geode
Irlok is the starting and ending NPC for the quest Beyond the Grave, where the player must defeat a powerful monster that is killing travelers in the Canyon of the Lost. Irlok gives the player the Raging Wind bracelet upon completion of the quest.
orchid skiff
Lf the day irlok gets disabled and i wonder meta ends up afterwards
last geode
my brother built like this how he is that strong 😭
dusty temple
😭
forest jungle
tbh I play irlok solely for airblasting people off the map with max harmony right click
orchid skiff
Took battlemonk :3
dusty temple
i miss the day when i ahvent know what is irlok
forest jungle
airblast walls out theorick which makes me happy
last geode
airblast ignoring shield is so funny
forest jungle
well it does hit shield
but you can hit theorick while you're both in shield
and he has 0 option to recover
prepatch, Id say irlok was kept in check by tom
I have no idea how that matchup works now
but tom cant one tap irlok anymore so realistically irlok is a lot better
last geode
tom's counter against irlok i would say it is keeping him in range and not let your teammates let him farm harmonies
forest jungle
also who is tom
forest jungle
like what quest
last geode
Tom is the quest start NPC for the "Craftmas Chaos" quest. He is located in Selchar.
He has a younger version, Tommy (X: -6794; Z: -11480), in Past Selchar, and an older version, Old Tom, in Future Selchar. Both are quest NPCs in the Craftmas Chaos quest.
the old quest
forest jungle
oh that guy
last geode
WHY CAN HE OWN A GUN??????????
forest jungle
I guess he needs a gun to defend himself from the evil stuff on future selchar
loud remnant
WHY CAN HE OWN A GUN??????????
a better question would be what the fuck does he hold it with
vast valve
btw this game reminds me of the wizards minigame in hypixel, and i love that minigame which may be why i love this so much
the goal is kinda similar but it works differently
dusty temple
omg i just met a tom that never changed and i stomped him soooooo many times
that was so fun
tom rn is literally combat dummy experience
broken bone
Tom was the most fun class in the tutorial
loud remnant
tom is good if played at a high range as intended but the only issue is that rage is discouraged with all the zone capturing thing
broken bone
Yeap
dusty temple
yeah
i feel guilty when someone just said im skilled but i basically just melee kick slam melee kick slam melee kick ult kick slam
vernal harness
slam is so crazy
dusty temple
my first very fast game
loud remnant
yoo rewards are fixed?
dusty temple
airblast walls out theorick which makes me happy
i only does that when there is a theorick still in the radius of the capture point
sour night
irlok is so goofy on respawn cos you can get to centre in like a second and use the shift ability for big damage
dusty temple
yes
sour night
or you can like hide on the roof because that’s possible apparently
dusty temple
sour night
smh didnt use freefall
dusty temple
honestly im not sure
the charge usually do not go that far so i was shocked lmao
i clipped it because its so random
dusty temple
i once use 1 harmony to do a very long charge so i do not think its affected
its just so weird
vernal harness
also i keep launching myself off the map
shrimply launch others off the map
i love irlok ult in b d
