#Give top performers in raids an extra reward pull or aspect pull.

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gilded vine
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only if this counts raid boss stats, because there will defo be tons of people obnoxiously farming trash mobs (mercury puddles 😍 )

lofty pasture
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Boss only is a good idea

rain wadi
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surely adding competitive rewards to a teambased challenge that is meant to require a decently high level of cooperation to work out is only going to end well

lofty pasture
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An extra reward pull cant hurt anyone

rain wadi
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well that's a reward noone would really care about

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the problem is: if the bonus is good enough that people do care, it'll create competition dynamics which isn't great in a cooperative environment

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if the bonus is immaterial then it's just an addition that's not really relevant

lofty pasture
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3 extra reward pulls for being the top performer in all three categories adds up over a lot of raids

rain wadi
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and also inherently favours shaman and mage because they are effectively the only ones that can even stand a chance to win most heals

lofty pasture
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Lightbender really does piss dmg outside of tcc and shaman is difficult to play in most raids

rain wadi
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The highest whatever trackers are mostly just fun flavour

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and some people already got too invested in them when there's no reward to them

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I don't think this is a healthy idea for the environment of raids

lofty pasture
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I see your point and thats definitely valid I just dont think an extra reward pull would be that big of a factor just a nice little bonus

rain wadi
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It would require dev time

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So it would only stand a chance if it fell into the "people would care about this" category

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which creates the competition dynamics we wouldn't want

lofty pasture
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Alright fair enough

rain wadi
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Might this have been a fine addition if it was already in the original plan for raids? I think probably it would have been fine and not cause too much stirrup

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Would adding it now, when that would move extra attention to it and require extra time to add in be worth it? Dubitably

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It's not a bad idea, just a little late and a little odd for the nature of raids

stark onyx
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the only change that should be done to the leaderboard is removing that horribly designed piece of creative bullshit for good

stark onyx
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average wynnmain user killing every mob in tcc wings room to prove that their build is good

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guys i outdamaged divzer bolt on guardian bashscream definitely not bc bolt is single target while bashscream can hit half the map in one spell!!!11!!!!11111!

nova fox
gilded vine
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you know it's over when ppl are willing to waste 10 minutes farming for top dmg leaderboard stat when you don't even get rewarded anything extra for that 💀

nova fox
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its to show that they are sigma and damage means everything!!!1!!1!!

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had to send it again because aperantly i wrote a bad word

rough trout
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me when the 5hp warrior exists

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dies in every single room
survives boss because the boss doesnt do anyting
get top damage
more people want to become like the 5hp warrior
pf become more hellish than it is

yeah ill sit this one out

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and this would just stifle build creativity even more because people would just want the highest damaging builds for this reward, or more will play healer and intentionally game the system via self-harm methods to be the best "healer"

rough trout
nova fox
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ngl i was planning on trying out 5hp warrior as well, but then i realized i got like 300+ ping with constant lagspikes

rough trout
nova fox
haughty grotto
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the good ol days...

teal wing
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💀💀