Comprehensive Building Guides [HELP NEEDED]

[mild marten]

hi chatters

im making a series of guides that serves as an explanation of the ability tree/damage calculation to new players/builders, extensive documentation for (hopefully) every major ability tree node in the game, an in-depth ID index, and a general intro to playstyles and class building!

update: I have split it into three separate guides, the first is an intro to playstyles/types of attacks/building, while the second and third are more in-depth guides into items/IDs and the ability tree, respectively
playstyles and building: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-wTnkfZICHfwcuLWxDwa4hUAeX93chLRzebD6Jd_U-k/edit?usp=sharing
items and ids: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1meqEleUC5Qhwzw5cbdKvS4ugl0-m9wky3Tch8Ex0n2k/edit?usp=sharing
ability tree and major ids: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19F_DcZMXbFLOndwr7rp-gd4acyuQwEwU-B6EIKNQxfs/edit?usp=sharing

some rules i want to lay down about these guides:

• avoid mentioning meta (i.e. "this is why riftbender is meta right now", "warrior is generally heeded as the best class currently") this will keep the guide as "here's why" instead of "here's what" and also make it persist through significant meta shifts
• comprehensive, but not repetitive
• dont be an asshole in here lol

please help!! if you notice anything off in this, or notice anything missing, or just have something interesting to share about an ability, please slap it in here!! hopefully we can make this a great resource for both people getting into class building and people making new tech and playstyles!

[analog escarp]

you only need to do rtp on ONE class

there is no cheaper charge 2

[mild marten]

fixed

[mild marten]

:despair: i'll have to find a different way to phrase this

[charred quartz]

somehow it took me until now to realize it's just charge that doesnt have two basic cheaper cost nodes

war scream used to be on that list but then the one after flying kick got added

[shy dune]

the solution is either to add a written exception to the doc

or to make a movement within the community that is literally just about adding another charge -cost node

[charred quartz]

Spirit of the Rabbit might as well be the second -cost node

and I dont think charge should get to be a 10 cost spell

[shrewd wave]

yeah spirit of the rabbit is basically the 2nd costy red node

[valid delta]

Common euouae w

To access the Ability Tree (often abbreviated as AT), right click your Compass Menu and click on the Ability Tree menu on the left side.
Shifting while opening the compass instantly brings you to the AT

[analog escarp]

btw for when you get around to it: rejuvenating skin is affected by he
(Otherwise its just heal, greed, aura, regen, rally i think but those are obvious/well known)

[valid delta]

That got implemented already? Nice

[mild marten]

im gonna be mia today for the most part i think but i have been thinking about giving perms to editors

so if u want edit perms mention me in here and make a funny joke

[mild marten]

fixed

[mild marten]

added

[silent osprey]

may i have edit perms? the joke is the assumption that i'll do any editing (lol lmao yeah right)

[analog escarp]

THIS°°°°°!!!!!!!!!!!! 😱

[mild marten]

ok

do the thing where u uhh request to edit the doc and i'll add u

[mild marten]

hey chat i've been thinking about splitting this guide into three separate guides to kind of serve as a trifecta of class building:

• first guide deals with generally "how to play" with the basics of game mechanics, including spells, melee, how to use them interchangeably, mana management, spell cycling, types of playstyles, powder specials, etc. idk skill points could also go here
• second guide deals with items and identifications, including different types of items, what the base values on items means, process of rolling/rerolling, what identifications are, and a list of all identifications and their specific meanings, as well as other metrics (mana value, hp sustain, etc.) and how to determine a good item for a build
• third guide deals with the ability tree (basically this one), including info about archetypes, aspects, and major ids, as well as diving into the specifics of each ability for each class

i know this sounds audacious but i do think it's probably a better way to structure these guides, let me know what you think

[brittle hatch]

it will be much easier to teach interchanging spells and attacks if you convince readers to only play hmelee

[primal fulcrum]

get real

[shy dune]

i don't think it's particularly audacious, since it's just coalescing game info that most experienced players know about, i don't think it would end up too big, but i'm not sure about the separation part
if you mean making separate docs, i don't think that's an inherently bad idea(and as you said one of the three is the already existing doc), would just making the sharing of the docs a bit wacky if a person needs two of the docs' info or whatnot, but would most likely make the info compilation more concise

also good idea gongus that is an important detail

[mild marten]

the documents would be interlinked if i do separate it into three documents

like at the top of each document probably

to indicate that they're related to each other

[shy dune]

sounds good

[analog escarp]

Damn got inactive

[mild marten]

college

[mild marten]

made a few updates to this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-wTnkfZICHfwcuLWxDwa4hUAeX93chLRzebD6Jd_U-k/edit?usp=sharing up to Damage Calculation (although I haven't done the Powders and Powder Specials part completely)

any fact checkers in chat?? tear it apart

[valid delta]

Spell Damage

Base damage conversions -> spell damage attack speed multipliers -> elemental additives -> base modifiers -> master modifiers

Are base modifiers spell multipliers?

[mild marten]

base modifiers are basically just IDs

spell multipliers are base damage conversions

thats mostly for my own use tbh

i intend on replacing it with an actually detailed description later on

[mild marten]

Comprehensive Building Guides [HELP NEEDED]

[analog escarp]

is this a sign ive done something right

[mild marten]

Wynncraft 2.0: The Damage System Bible

[analog escarp]

i still have no idea whether theres any way to distinguish master and final modifiers without testing on a mob with known eledefs btw

[mild marten]

i think i've basically concluded that final modifiers are like

idk

like theres not anything that class builders should rly be worried about in that category(?)

[analog escarp]

ok im gonna test whether masks are final modifiers rn actually

[mild marten]

i would be surprised if they were

[analog escarp]

bc theyre the one thing which i most feel like might?

since their spellcost is also post recast penalty

[mild marten]

i think most AT damage boosts are either just at the defense stage or are master multipliers

[mild marten]

actually that's interesting

that's a good point

[analog escarp]

ok for some reason pvp has a dmg multiplier on my melees? or at least seems like it so i cant test on my alt

ok at least motl isnt a final mod so motc prob isnt either

idk which other nodes are really specific candidates though as it like could be any that isnt a generic strength buff

[mild marten]

my guess is that its still stuff thats a lot more mechanical

and not explicitly in AT nodes

[analog escarp]

yeah pob

r

[shrewd wave]

these words are not in the bible

[tawdry mantle]

i will read this later

if i remember

i forgot thiings a lot

@shrewd wave HI

remind me if i forgot euouae

[mild marten]

ok

please criticize it as much as possible

[tawdry mantle]

ok i will be EVIL ender c law lawyer

[shrewd wave]

ME

[tall sphinx]

gyatt...

[mild marten]

gh,,

[wet jolt]

Mage supremacy where is our representation of meteor!??!!? Let me edit please

[brittle hatch]

can you make the doc editable for all? i have some changes i wanna make

[wet jolt]

@mild marten

[mild marten]

oh i thought i gave u perms

[wet jolt]

Oh I'm sorry I didn't expect you to see it

I just requested and assumed I'd just give you a ping to comfirm

[mild marten]

you are an editor frank!!!!!!

yea no prob

[wet jolt]

In case you thougjt it was a different guy

An imposter if you will

[mild marten]

i am a little hesitant on just making it editable period but if you request access i'll give u perms

mostly just making sure some random guy that hasnt played wynncraft doesnt put straight misinfo on it

[brittle hatch]

thats no fun, misinformation was the point

[wet jolt]

Fandom grookwarts page reference

[brittle hatch]

i like how you did the text coloring

[mild marten]

thanks!!

[brittle hatch]

you can either read in depth or skim and still note stuff

i think it being skimmable is like the most important part

[mild marten]

yea

i was worried that it would be like

seen as a textbook

because i know we all love those;;;;

[brittle hatch]

i think first sentence could be highlighted, since the rest is not vital

would you be down to highlight entire blocks of text or no?

[mild marten]

been debating it but i think its fine

especially in some of the longer segments

[brittle hatch]

coz like these 3 paragraphs read more like The More You Know, but then just this one paragraph is key info

[mild marten]

alright that sounds good to me

[brittle hatch]

like i dont want to be overbearing in any way, but what im thinking is being able to just read the highlighted parts and get 90% of the info

[mild marten]

i wonder if highlighting specific phraees might make it a bit less like a sudden white wall

how does this look

[brittle hatch]

that looks good

im thinking about moving the images 1 paragraph down

after spells get introduced verbally

[mild marten]

good idea i'll do that in a min

[wet jolt]

Yeah builds docs as dense as the Bible are not it

[brittle hatch]

damage bible uses biggest fonts in existance

[wintry granite]

Go over all the element combos in builds and their pros and weaknesses

[mild marten]

ive been thinking about how exactly to do that and am a little cautious about it tbh

on one hand its important to mention that elemental combos have distinct identities but idk at what point to stop (since theres a point where its no longer objective and just describing meta)

[wintry granite]

I think this should be in a 4th guide where you go over how to make a build that works

Also u gonna do a crafting guide?

[mild marten]

i intended to lump that in with the first one since builds and playstyle tend to go sorta hand in hand

[mild marten]

wasnt intending on it since i dont know nearly enough about crafting

however i would be open to someone else making one

[wintry granite]

Yeah idt there's true crafting pros out there

@sharp barn cook

[sharp barn]

I am infact not the cook…

[wet jolt]

Meteor is a ranged AOE instant damage spell unlocked as Mage's first base spell on the first page of the Ability Tree.

Upon casting, a meteor falls from the sky above the player and lands in the targeted area, exploding and dealing damage and minor knockback(Subject to CCI) after a short delay. Meteor has a soft targeting mechanic that allows for meteors to 'snap' to the nearest mobs to your cursor. This mechanic is not perfect, and can sometimes overshoot a target if a cursor is not placed correctly.

Meteor has a range of 18 blocks, and the resulting explosion has a 5 block diameter explosion.

Due to the delay in casting and the meteor exploding on a target, mage players need to predictively lead their meteors or kite their targets to ensure a mob does not leave the explosion radius by the time it lands.

Unlike spells like Arrow Bomb, casting multiple meteors does not cancel each other. This allows mages with enough mana to cast as quickly as they want without fear of cancelling a mid animation meteor before it comes down.

Due to meteor's 400% damage multiplier, certain builds focus on increasing raw spell damage rather than spell damage % due to the former being affected by the high multiplier and the latter not.

Will add properly at home

[wet jolt]

Is there a vetting process I need to undergo before pasting this in

[mild marten]

nah as long as u just tell me ur going to in here its fine

u dont even gotta tell me really

it looks good though!

[brittle hatch]

i would highlight

something to draw more attention to int and mana regen IDs

i think a before -> after screenshot of the weapon's damage would be infinitely more comprehensible

i think this may be confusing as its treating multi-powdering as a separate concept, white it is just the same as applying 1 powder but done multiple times

[mild marten]

this should be more clear now

[mild marten]

thats a good idea, i'll see if i can overhaul the example damage calc of that part

[brittle hatch]

perhaps it could show the effects of applying the initial powder, then mention that any subsequent powders have the same effect on the remaining neuteral dmg

and then a powder special

[mild marten]

the thing is, it is kind of a distinct concept

if e6e6e6 applied each powdered individually, you would still have neutral left

im not rly sure how to explain the concept too well tho

[brittle hatch]

maybe separate them not by individual powders then but by element

first describe applying 2 of one powder, then say that applying a powder of a different element will do the same for the remaining neutral

also if you do write the numbers out i would suggest not using air powders, as the highlight white and the air white are the same color

[mild marten]

yea i see what u mean

[brittle hatch]

or commit and make numbers the same color as the element

[mild marten]

im gonna try that and see how it looks

ok never mind i am not a fan

[brittle hatch]

On weapons they: white text
On armor they: white text
Additionally, if two of the same Tier IV+ powder are present on either they give powder special

i think it being structured like a sentence hinders highlighting

im thinking something like a list

[mild marten]

something like this?

[brittle hatch]

yeah that looks nice

i found a good weapon for highlighting conversions

100-100 neuteral

[wet jolt]

@mild marten could you pin first message in the thread so we can get back up top easily?

[mild marten]

holy fk

#1284321905486073887 message

[mild marten]

gonna see if i can grab one of those off TM for screenshots

[wet jolt]

thanks love

[mild marten]

3 powder slots is also nice

[brittle hatch]

none

i go lr

[mild marten]

WHAT

theres no way,,,

[brittle hatch]

xd

[mild marten]

also u seem like ur pretty active in making edits, i can give u edit perms if you'd like

[brittle hatch]

is there a way to make edits without committing them

i wouldnt want to take over

[mild marten]

you can enter commenting mode

[wet jolt]

comment system

puns do you even google doc

[mild marten]

if you want me to intentionally limit you i can just set you as a commenter

[wet jolt]

smh

[brittle hatch]

only to spread misinformation

[brittle hatch]

yeah the suggesting thing

i knew it existed

[wet jolt]

btw euo im working on the mage first section with general info

[mild marten]

tbh

[wet jolt]

copying formatting from archer

[mild marten]

maybe i'll just open it up to everyone

under suggestion mode

[brittle hatch]

i was kidding then i said that

[mild marten]

how does that sound

[brittle hatch]

oh

[mild marten]

yeah lol theres no way in hell i would set it to editing mode

[mild marten]

sounds good

sorry about the colors btw,,,,,,

google docs has no good way of organizing custom colors

ok i set everyone with the link on the gameplay one to commenting

wait im not gonna lie chat

im second guessing my comprehension of how powdering works

[brittle hatch]

yeah i dont really know it for sure either

[wet jolt]

cheaper meteor doesn't impact ophanim, right?

[mild marten]

it should

[wet jolt]

And does hitting multiple mobs proc more mana/life steal, or does it increase at the same speed

[mild marten]

uhh
that's what we're here to test and document !!

i dont know

[wet jolt]

hell yeah

[wet jolt]

checking wynnbuilder

okay on wynnbuilder it does

[wet jolt]

okay it goes

*does

[mild marten]

so real

[wet jolt]

lunar spine against one mob is 96, with multiple maxing out the bar

this is huge for main attack section

[brittle hatch]

got it

[mild marten]

goated roll

ok turns out my powdering perception was a little off

if you powder an empire builder say, e6t6e6f6f6e6w6e6

the game treats it as: ok, so you want to;
e6 * 4, then t6 * 1, then f6 * 2, then w6 * 1

so its not necessarily true that the order of all powders matter

just the first powder of each element

this also explains why the powder special is always the first element in the order that has a pair; internally, you can check what the powder special is in the same step as conversions

so by this metric,
e6e6e6 t6t6t6 w6
e6 t6 w6 e6 t6t6 e6
e6 t6 e6 t6 e6 t6 w6
e6e6 t6 w6 t6 e6 t6
are all identical powderings

[wet jolt]

Did I cook

[analog escarp]

euouae_

[mild marten]

NOT the base Main Attack for Mage

[wet jolt]

Filled out abilities that affect meteor

[tawdry mantle]

i have now gotten around to reading this i like so far :)

[tawdry mantle]

did some suggestions (mainly on powder part) from 1st guide will do more later :)

oh also might be worth getting a mod here to pin the first message so its easier to get too when this gets bigger

[mild marten]

thanks ender claw

i will be looking over those later

[mild marten]

that would be nice

[tawdry mantle]

uhhh

@visual meteor hi welcome can you do that pretty please #1284321905486073887 message

pin this message

[tawdry mantle]

so people can access thid doc

ty!

<3

we ae now gaming

[mild marten]

looks great btw

i think for stronger meteor, it might be ok to omit the specific damage values

and put it in its own "subsection"

[wet jolt]

sounds good, would be very annoying

I know you said no repetitive

and I figured thin ice

[mild marten]

yeah fair

hey i mean worst case it does end up being repetitive and we just delete it instead!

i think i mostly did that format since there are some strange quirks with some damage additions i.e. triple shots and all the different gangels upgrades

oh yes one of the things im stuck on is quake/chain damage calculation btw

if anyone else is a bit more knowledgable on it feel free to make a suggestion in that part or just like explain it here

[tawdry mantle]

Is jt not that simple?

Or do you mean the ele conversion

[mild marten]

mostly the ele conversion

or just why raw earth/neutral melee affects it but stuff like raw air melee does not

(for quake)

[tawdry mantle]

I just think it only accepts Earth melee dmg things

Post conversion?

Not sure how the msth aorks out

[mild marten]

yeah thats why im confused

like, if quake happens, but the original base damage of the weapon is half earth and half air damage, does air damage % do anything to the quake? in other words, does the damage conversion happen after % IDs are applied, or does the damage conversion happen like a spell conversion

[tawdry mantle]

Ahh

Not sure tuen

Then

[mild marten]

alright i'm pretty sure its the latter

me when i accidentally discover a bug

[brittle hatch]

timeworn croissants

[tawdry mantle]

me

[wet jolt]

Working on Arcane Transfer section, completed the at info and will be working on why and how it's used soon

[mild marten]

the content of "introduction" in the gameplay and building should be complete! feel free to look over, especially over the powder specials section (since i frankly also dont really know how the armor powder specials work tbh)

i'm still planning to add a better illustration of how exactly powder application works

i also think it's important to add a credits section considering how much some of u are contributing, so i'll probably add that some point these few days

[tawdry mantle]

ok!

[tawdry mantle]

@mild marten did some testing and added comments on wind prsion testing tldr shits broken its not working correctly

we might have bugs to report

[mild marten]

no WAY

[tawdry mantle]

bygg bug

[mild marten]

wait.

so ur telling me they rise one block in the air

but still move completely normally

[tawdry mantle]

yes

try it

they will air strafe towards you

unphased

[mild marten]

this game.,,

[tawdry mantle]

a little silly

ALL mobs are now cci immune ONLY to wind prison

[mild marten]

i'll also add that the kb is super inconsistent

[tawdry mantle]

real

[wet jolt]

Arcane Transfer is complete!

love that guy

[mild marten]

gonna start working on this again soon

erm

am i going fucking crazy

when applying powders, subsequent powder element types convert the neutral remaining from the previous conversion, right??

WAIT NO

im stupid?? i think??? id ont even know

wait am i going crazy?? wtf

erm.... ingame and wynnbuilder are completely different values....

..................................e

so do subsequent powder element types convert remaining neutral or the original neutral??

ingame seems to show that its the original neutral

[brittle hatch]

hey do u want the funny bow

[brittle hatch]

will probably help during testing too

[mild marten]

bought one off tm!

it was like 10% overall

[brittle hatch]

oh i didnt think it would show up lol

could have saved some time

[mild marten]

#🌎wynncraft message

read down from here

it seems that ingame powder damage is visually incorrect but performs correctly

in other words: the visual representation of the damage does all the powder conversions on the original neutral, while the actual damage does the powder conversions on the remaining neutral

so ironically this example just doesnt work. because its just wrong

but it works in gameplay

but is just visually wrong

wynncraft is bending my brain man

[brittle hatch]

xd

[mild marten]

rewrote the powder application part

some of the explanations still might not be great so im very open to suggestions on how to improve itr

powder application is confusing man,,

[mild marten]

wrote a lot for the damage calculation section

genuinely kind of delirious writing it so please help review it!!

not sure if it makes any sense in the current state tbh

[analog escarp]

Second one doesnt match (would have to be e6t6w6e6w6 i think?

[mild marten]

oops ur right

fixed

[analog escarp]

Also does "range of each chainis 14 blocks" refer to total chain?
As in: would it stop if first-> seco d mob is 13 blocks and next is 2
Or does that refer to max distance from enemy to enemy individually

[mild marten]

from enemy to enemy

thats why its "each chain"

[analog escarp]

Yeah just sounds bit unclear to me bc each chain could also refer to each time you cast chain lightning (one cast = one chain)

Oh and slo for this, idk how exactly theyre applied but dagger prof 2 and possibly bakals grasp also add raw dmg of that type from the way i understand it (though not "elemental")
Unless bakals grasp is actually just raw spell/melee which idk havent tested

Didnt find anything else thats axtually wrong though

(Stopped before you take reader through main atk dmg calc

[charred quartz]

Also important is that the most important part of powdering is the order that the first elemental type of each powder is applied, as the effects of each elemental powder will be combined in each step. To illustrate this, a powder order such as e6e6t6w6w6 is equivalent to e6t6w6e6w6, as the first Earth powder comes before the first Thunder powder, which comes before the first Water powder.
These two would not be identical

Powders of the same element are only combined if they're consecutive

[mild marten]

in my testing this was not the case

thats what i thought before as well

[charred quartz]

That's...odd

I'm going to have to test that myself later today

To make sure

[mild marten]

yea i recommend it

[tawdry mantle]

Oh yeah ty for remding me i need to check this again

[tawdry mantle]

@mild marten may i have suggesting perms for 3rd doc

[mild marten]

yea

the at one?

[tawdry mantle]

yes i want too

add info for some of the MID stuff

2nd doc also seems it needs help

but thats prob later

might focus on shit like warrior since its probably my most played class

ty <3

[mild marten]

yorp

[tawdry mantle]

yorping

[tawdry mantle]

Did a bit of editing for some of the listed Major IDs albeit i am a bit tired so i didint do the full large questionnaire and some were simple enough were it wasnt needed. Some need citations but I didn't know how you wanted it formated eaxctly so i mostly just dumped info. Hope it helps I can come back to it later because I need to save my quality writing for the Warrior section if I have time and or can bust out the good shit

[mild marten]

info dump is good

and also dont worry too much about the massive questionnaire

i just think its a nice guideline when evaluating what an ability does

[tawdry mantle]

it is im just tired and hwatnot

[analog escarp]

Btw for hesling efficiency: I am pretty sure it affects every form of %-based Healing (NOT Overhealth)
Includes:

• heal
• greey
• sac shrinr
• regenerstion
• rally
• exhilarate (and i assume intox but still have to test that seperately)
• rejuv skin

Possibly (havent tested):

• second chance
• %-based healing trinkets?? Maybe??
• if i forgot some %-healing i prob didnt test it either

[tawdry mantle]

neat to know

god imagine it effected trinkets

if you need some i have plenty to test with @analog escarp

[wet jolt]

So Immo cooks okr as well then?

[analog escarp]

yes

[wet jolt]

The more you know!

[analog escarp]

thats been the case for a year though (since it got he)

[analog escarp]

the only 3 are visions of the past, hearthflame staff and talisman of the valley right?

[tawdry mantle]

yes

[analog escarp]

only one i dont have is visions of the past
talisman doesnt work
hearthflame heals full % amounts of hp with 10 he
but the 2 times i was able to test it for some reason healed 12%% and 13% respectively and NOT 15 %

[analog escarp]

ok yeah i think it just skips some

[analog escarp]

and if you could test with vision of hte past that would be cool

(just do like one test without and one with symbiont should work

[tawdry mantle]

Ok i can do later

So hearthflame it works not talisman?

[analog escarp]

both dont

[tawdry mantle]

Oh

[analog escarp]

hearthflame just seperately doensnt work bc it skips heal ticks

(like, one time it perfectly lined up with 12% healed and the other time 13% healed, if it was 11/12% with 1.1x mult it would be significantly different)

[tawdry mantle]

I see

[analog escarp]

also individual ticks healed exactly 1%

just remembered i checked that

[analog escarp]

ok bc second chance testing with rejuv is kinda annoying i cant really say well for second chance

[analog escarp]

ok so it got me up to 33.8% with 27% he
but since that doesnt match i think its likelier that it just caught three rejuv ticks in there somehow?

but im gonna test again this time recording

ok looks like 31.5% with rejuv removed (-15 170 hp ticks, i had 8187 hp at the end, so 5637 from schance on 17878 is ~31.5% so theres some factor im missing but im pretty sure its not he, i will test without tho

ok now i got 32.2% without any he

does it restore 30% + what oyu had before that last hit? bc then it might match tbh

[tawdry mantle]

Perhaps

[sharp barn]

Me when talisman gives you 1 burning tick unless u cleanse it

[wet jolt]

+RAW and +% Between 0 and Infinite will increase the hpr

+Raw and -% Between 0 and 100 will reduce the hpr

+Raw and -% at 100 will completely negate any hpr

+Raw and -% more than 100 will create negative hpr

-Raw and +% up to 100 will increase negative hpr

-Raw and +% 100 will completely negate hpr

have i missed any use cases

@primal fulcrum

[analog escarp]

could also say
actual hpr = hpr + |raw hpr| * hpr%/100
if hpr < 0 actual hpr is capped at 0

[wet jolt]

is this base hpr without any items

[analog escarp]

actually i meant hpr id but idt have to be
natural hpr + hpr id = the hpr you highlighted

[wet jolt]

which hpr ID, raw or %

[primal fulcrum]

looks right

some of the wording is a little confusing like increase -hpr means it goes closer to 0 but it sounds like its making it further from 0

[wet jolt]

WHAT

im going to explode

[mild marten]

another person falling down the natural hpr rabbit hole

:october17:

[analog escarp]

need to retest tbh bc mana sprint interaction was also changed in 2.1

[analog escarp]

raw

[wet jolt]

raw shows up twice in the calculation?

[analog escarp]

yes once as base then again to calc with hpr%

[wet jolt]

interesting...

[analog escarp]

thats why its |absolute value| of raw

ok like better said
HPR Tick = HPR + |HPR| * HPR% / 100 + 3
HPR = Natural HPR + Raw HPR ID
if HPR < 0 and HPR% >100% HPR Tick = 0

[wet jolt]

I propose amendment to distinguish raw hpr from general hpr

HPR Raw is now HPRR

HPR Tick = HPR + |HPRR| * HPR% / 100
HPR = Natural HPR + HPRR
if HPR < 0 HPR Tick is max 0
if HPR Tick is 0, HPR Tick is 3

[analog escarp]

HPR Regen?

[wet jolt]

HPR Raw

[analog escarp]

zam

HPRRID
HPRRPVID

[wet jolt]

There is no situation where amount of raw does any weird math stuff right

[sharp barn]

Hpr is such a fun subject

[wet jolt]

its just % that cooks you

[tawdry mantle]

The voices

[wet jolt]

I just wanna cancel warp 😢
-new class builder

so uh

what is natural hpr

[analog escarp]

basically raw hpr that you get when youre on low hp

also i messed up the last point, 3 is always added, unless hpr is 0

ok now its accurate

[wet jolt]

Added Parts To Life Sustain and Life Steal section

How much sustain would you want guys, aside from whatever you need to not drain?

okay finished that bit

[tawdry mantle]

sorry i forgot totell you @analog escarp VotP does not get effected by HEF as expected

[analog escarp]

Hm, Bakals Grasp Damage is additive, right?

[mild marten]

sorry chat i've been doing lots of irl stuff recently

but these arent dead i swear!!!

probably gonna work on them a bit today

[tawdry mantle]

me too (replace irl with btb)

idk when i will work on unless you FORCe me then i will :3

[mild marten]

its ok i lied i did not work on it today

[tawdry mantle]

me

[mild marten]

did some organizational work on the building guide

hopefully makes the process more clear on the third part

[wet jolt]

@mild marten were you planning on writing the cost of arcane section or can I do it

[mild marten]

been uber busy rn, u can do it if you want

although i dont think it costs anything

i just tested ingame

[wet jolt]

I'm gonna explode

[shrewd wave]

uber like in battlecat?

[mild marten]

THIS IS NOT DEAD YET!!!! I SWEAR

i will continue work later today

[shrewd wave]

OK EUOUAE!

[mild marten]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-wTnkfZICHfwcuLWxDwa4hUAeX93chLRzebD6Jd_U-k/edit?usp=sharing

gagaboggoo

gabagagassaaaaa

gababa

gooogoo

i updated it. mostly

still working on updating part I but part III has most of the content

although a lot of it is admittedly like midnight stream of consciousness shit so let me know if anything is lookin weird

[primal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-24874327

[shrewd wave]

https://tenor.com/view/lacie-paper-lily-lacie-fact-checked-by-true-lacie-loyalists-fact-checked-gif-8329402490835709406

[oak raft]

hiiii

[primal fulcrum]

a

[brittle hatch]

Necroposting is a bannable offense

[shrewd wave]

^^^^^

[mild marten]

not in my thread

[shrewd wave]

not your thread

I ate it

nom nom

it no longer there !

[primal fulcrum]

terrible server list

[shrewd wave]

top ten sillly

[silent osprey]

where did you even find this

nvm theres a lot of lacie gifs in the picker

https://tenor.com/view/paper-lily-lowtierlacie-low-tier-lacie-gif-1344699193368981401

🗣️

[shrewd wave]

i lost the og gun picture

nvm i found it

[silent osprey]

what the photorealistic hand

[shrewd wave]

cut it off fr

[silent osprey]

loonicord monucord icocord sillycord maidcord

[shrewd wave]

me