Lootruns are too good right now

[proper zinc]

Not necessarily these changes but it does feel too easy to get mythics

[fiery panther]

I dont think that can be reverted anymore + there are a "new tier" of mythic items which would be annihilation

[proper zinc]

Wdym?

[fiery panther]

The economy is already built up on a bunch of mythics and a bunch of le

also mythics should be easy to get imo not that easy but acessible for everyone

only the op ones that shouldnt like annihilation ones that take like 3 days to get a chance to spawn one

[proper zinc]

So why are lootruns so easy then?

[barren summit]

these last few days boon beacons felt a bit more rare, or was it just me?

[proper zinc]

It just feels like “mythic” items aren’t so mythical anymore…

[barren summit]

at the start at least some popped up guaranteed, yes, but later on they were very uncommon

[proper zinc]

You don’t need them later because of missions

[barren summit]

i think it feels that way because of how many new players joined post-rekindled, so more lootruns = more saturated market

plus you're kind of battling rng on top of rng, so you gotta go through crap luck in lootruns, and then go through crap luck when it comes to rerolling mythics for modifiers

oof ouch [4] 18.5% epoch

[proper zinc]

Okay I get your point…

[drifting geyser]

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[queen hedge]

maybe the issue is with end reward sacrifices being overpowered and long lootruns not being like, good at all

[proper zinc]

True

[meager mango]

hmm

'lootruns are too good'

looks at my lootrunning
so... how do you do these 'too good lootruns'
because i keep getting 30 pull 1 reroll lootruns

[ancient notch]

from my experience

go chronokinesis>ultsac>redemp> whatever gives sacs>then rrs >stasis if you feel like ig

then complete a full pre 2.0.3 lootrun

do challenge get +100 pulls

go play something else for 30 minutes

blues for buff if needed, then aqua green for time and repeat go lootruj rodo again

can get 1k+ pulls and WAYY more if you actually care enough

just be careful don’t enter quest tp areas you will get lootrun ended by the stay in playfield thing

then do rr farming if no more chrono

so you can get like 2k pull 12 rr run

[proper zinc]

What does chronokinesis do again?

[proper zinc]

24k effective pulls?!

I got 50 effective pulls from a lr yesterday and got a galleon

[ancient notch]

its two seperate runs

chronokinesis is +1 pull per chest iirc and it counts normal chests

so you just blue aqua green lootrun corkus log of for 30 minutes repeat until the run is over

you can consistently get 1k+ pulls consistently, and evn more if ur lucky

then sac them if you dopn't get best mythic

and then next run take sacs + gambling beast for rrs

boom 2k pulls 12 rrs mythic incoming

[meager mango]

reliant on luck tho

to get the right missions

[proper zinc]

Wow, cool.

[proper zinc]

How does this work though?

Is that so the chests can refresh?

[ancient notch]

isn't that like

[proper zinc]

I think your right, the problem is mostly sacrifices

[ancient notch]

lootrunning in general

no luck = no profit

[proper zinc]

Also that mission is op

[proper zinc]

So true

Still think loot runs are too good, but I would be fine if they just nurfed certain missions and sacrifices. Also maybe make some of the mobs stronger

[meager mango]

it should be reallyreally hard to get to chal 100

[proper zinc]

Maybe make mob scaling increase as time goes on?

[bright valley]

Mythics dont feel like mythics indeed. All went down when loot quality got introduced.

[fiery panther]

So you saying that mythics sucks even before when they were rarer now thats gatekeeping

[bright valley]

Oh no, they very powerful. But aren't very rare anymore. Everyone has multiple mythics thesedays.

In before you had to open like 3000-10000 chests with chests not being client side.

[fiery panther]

Which is good i dont understand why people be like "nah but only elite players should have mythics beacuse they rare etc etc" meanwhile an avarage player dont even has more then 4stx at a time

[bright valley]

Im just saying it should take more than 2-3h to get a mythic.

If only the elite is willing to put in more effort than that, then ye.

[fiery panther]

I mean man let people have mythic i think everyone deserves to expirience high bursting dps or good gameplay

[bright valley]

They deserve it if they work for it. With anni this is even a bigger problem. You only need to do like 3-7 anni's and you have a good mythic.

[fiery panther]

blud have you played annie??? The rates are 1 mythic every 50 runs

And each run is like 3 days wait on final so the math are like 1 mythic after 150 days

[bright valley]

No i meant the LE you get from it

The wait is 3 days, but the playtime is like 5min.

[fiery panther]

It isnt even that much now its like only 40le max

[bright valley]

Anyways I might come over as a gatekeeper, but trust me I'm not. Just wish mythics were still seen as they used to be, a very rare powerful piece of equipment. But I wouldnt say they need to lower the rates now, the damage is done (towards mythics and OG players). Im not supporting punishing new players.

[bright valley]

54le

[fiery panther]

No og player is hurt in the process it really dont matter if you spent hours in the past doesnt mean they are broke now they still rich beacuse mythics back then used to be more expensive

[bright valley]

Ye, OG players spent way more time getting mythics or grinding even more money (since prices were higher) than current players.

Only way you didnt lose money is if you hoarded a ton of raw le.

[fiery panther]

You sound like someone who got broke by the update

[bright valley]

But Im not

[fiery panther]

Then why you care that much for something that doesnt affect you

[bright valley]

It affected me, but Im not completely broke now. And as I stated I dont care about the past, damage is done. It's just a tragedy that mythics feel like fableds in terms of rarity.

[proper zinc]

It’s one in 25

[proper zinc]

They are supposed to be hard to get, they are called mythics for a reason

This is partially a luck thing but I have done 5 30 min loot runs(in a row) and gotten a mythic every time. Once I even got two.

[proper zinc]

You only actually play for a very small percentage of that time. It only really hurts grinders.

Also most new players won’t be mythic level yet. Probably don’t even know what mythics are.

[proper zinc]

Something is only worth a lot if it is rare and cool, or rare and powerful.

If something is powerful but not rare, then it’s worth practically nothing

[barren summit]

RNG is extremely unpredictable, you got hellishly lucky, there are people with thousands of pulls that still can't get a mythic

[proper zinc]

Yeah true, it took me dozens of loot runs to get my first mythic

[barren summit]

difficulty behind obtaining mythic would probably be a lot more debatable if it was like something that you'd need to craft (so imagine grinding 128 crafting materials for weeks to make a mythic)

[proper zinc]

And dozens more to get my second mythic

But then I learned good strategies, and now I have been getting a lot more mythics.

[barren summit]

maybe mythic seems more common to you because you've become better at the game, and when you were newer they seemed far more difficult to obtain

factor in the huge influx of players as well after update

lots and lots more of them are flowing into economy now

i do kind of wonder how much mythic droprates were touched for lootruns, and if they were touched in the first place

[proper zinc]

Most new players aren’t mythic level yet.(most people have jobs or school)

[barren summit]

i used "new" wrongly here, i meant there could also be returning players for example

[proper zinc]

It just feels like they aren’t really mythic anymore.

Having an item that’s extremely rare and takes more then a few hours to get gives people something to achieve.

[barren summit]

imo true endgame is getting best modifier for your mythics, and that is horrifically expensive to achieve

[proper zinc]

It’s okay. This was just my opinion but I get it if you don’t agree. Most people don’t agree with me anyway.

I get what you mean

[barren summit]

i do understand how mythic's magic feels taken away once you start commonly seeing it everywhere, but content is built in a way that they're often necessary to start performing well in end-game areas

[proper zinc]

“Morph being able to beat hardest boss in game”

[barren summit]

screw lightbender 😭 😭

[proper zinc]

Lol

Or just join a random party and ask for healers, high chance of winning. Then you get a cc and make enough money to buy almost anything you want

Like people keep talking about how they are getting b2b caches

[bright valley]

This is the one reason I feel mixed about mythics being so common thesedays. In before mythics were icing on the cake and everything was very doable with legendary gear (which was the norm when testing stuff by CT I believe). But now it feels like you can expect a hard time on endgame content if you dont have one.

[fiery panther]

tho some non mythical weapons can be huge compared to mythics ones like brass band does almost the same dmg as cata in some situations

[bright valley]

Aight, guess I'm selling my cata 😔