Cyberbullying lumi into fixing tna

[unkempt hinge]

I mean if thats the case I cant really fix that lol

I cant do oh if (lag):{JumpAnyway;}

[graceful shoal]

It just plays the jumping model animation and spawns void hole but Greg don't actually jumps

Also check berry room void holes there client side boss bar hp is cooked

[unkempt hinge]

and also T poses a bit?

durring the animations

[graceful shoal]

Yeah

[ember perch]

keep it its funny

[graceful shoal]

Lol true

[unkempt hinge]

I mean thats cuz it does stop animation and then start animation

[graceful shoal]

Its like it stops charge jump then t pose and spawn void hole while staying on same place

[unkempt hinge]

I guess if there is low tps the time between that becomes greater

where there is time with no animations

so he T poses

[graceful shoal]

Lel

[unkempt hinge]

I cant really change that

I cant make the lines any closer than right under each other

[graceful shoal]

.

[unkempt hinge]

what do u mean

I didnt do the changes for that room this update

[graceful shoal]

Go kill a void hole while seeing both hp bar one of mob and 1 of hud

[weak sundial]

impossible to fix

[graceful shoal]

They are desynced and 1 hit apart

[steady lynx]

he has always tposed (in 2.1) a little bit but i dont think its a real problem

[weak sundial]

as i said

[graceful shoal]

Then can you make them slightly lower or add some dying animation so berry holder can know it's dead

[weak sundial]

ok

[graceful shoal]

Make it that lower so 0 jump hight player can also see them

[weak sundial]

wdym by this

[ember perch]

make it so that you can see them without needing to jump

[weak sundial]

the hp bars or the void holes

tbh i think id want neither visible normally

what there should be is an indicator that you killed it

[unkempt hinge]

just a better on death sound?

[steady lynx]

it has a death sound?!

[unkempt hinge]

as far as im aware it does

if it doesnt is should get one

[steady lynx]

i could swear i never heard it dying and usually im the berry holder D:

[wintry zephyr]

Like color purple for twains arc (just an example)

[unkempt hinge]

oh hmm it seems they dont anymore

[ember perch]

void holes, idea is that you shouldnt have to guess if youre hitting the void holes or not

[weak sundial]

if youre standing on the pink

youre hitting

[mystic token]

Wait for the map push, lots of things are broken rn because code was pushed but not the map

[mystic token]

Agree

[real cargo]

what's the problem with health bars on them?

[unkempt hinge]

well I dont think this is effected

its just the tree room

I was under the impression the tree rooms files would be pushed today, but they got pushed yesterday without a map push

[mystic token]

And did anything happen in regards to that today?

[unkempt hinge]

Not yet

Map should be pushed soon

[mystic token]

Epic!

(I just joined a TNA run 😭)

[wintry zephyr]

Epoch

[ember perch]

pls i need to grind tna for 4 more marked aspects i NEED more shade damage

[unkempt hinge]

I dont control pushes sadly :(

I mean even if I could they need to be timed

should be out before tomorrow

[wintry zephyr]

when is tomorrow?

[unkempt hinge]

idk couple hours

[wintry zephyr]

i guess time has no meaning in the archipelago

[graceful shoal]

can you like remotely diable tree room till push?

[unkempt hinge]

nope

[graceful shoal]

yikes

[unkempt hinge]

i would if i could

[graceful shoal]

also you can cheeze platform room btw

[unkempt hinge]

what do u mean?

[graceful shoal]

corner 😂

no damage whatsoever

[unkempt hinge]

the projectiles never hit u when ur in the corner?

[graceful shoal]

nope

[unkempt hinge]

what about the bomb

that knocks u off?

[graceful shoal]

yeah bomb knocks you

[unkempt hinge]

hmmm

maybe stop eating so much cheese

[graceful shoal]

yeah dont fix it let people run glassy builds

[unkempt hinge]

I mean Ill look at making it no longer just not hit u in the corners but

I dont wanna make the projectiles too hard

[graceful shoal]

yeah dont fix it pls , you can still get hit by mobs so its balanced 😂

[wintry zephyr]

you can just move away from projectiles

[unkempt hinge]

i mean ya thats the point lol

they are dodgeable

[graceful shoal]

are those ? cos dodge it is so inconsistent , if you even got off platform you can still sometime get hit

that can be lag idk

[balmy plaza]

the heart of darkness has gotta be unbalanced

i have like 30k ehp and i will get one tapped out of nowhere

you cant even see it when youre standing on plat cuz it just walks up next to the platform and kills you without any sort of indicator

@unkempt hinge unrelated, i am so glad the graspy hand guys have hp now :D i thought they were intended to be unkillable and it was always annoying having to just run infinitely from them. glad we can focus them and kill them now :)

[unkempt hinge]

how much is agi?

[balmy plaza]

all :3

jk i have like 30 def (on mage)

[unkempt hinge]

whats ur thunder def?

[balmy plaza]

https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder?v=8#9_0Au0u80D40Qx0GQ0t80wr0OM0Qk0911220U1L1g00001004fI0z0z0+0+0+0+0-1TzZddgrNS1
WynnBuilder build:

Cumulonimbus
Wanderlust
Dark Shroud
Stardew
Finesse
Yang
Lachesism
Diamond Hydro Necklace
Lament [w6w6w6]

335 😢

[graceful shoal]

sry for ping but is tree fixed now?

i kinda want to run some tna

[unkempt hinge]

if ur on an updated world it should be

[graceful shoal]

kk

[unkempt hinge]

i can play it just fine on the gm servers

[graceful shoal]

alr

[graceful shoal]

want to ask smth what walk speed % you think is boderline for to just plain sprint for watched?

[unkempt hinge]

im not sure

I never use walkspeed to dodge it as with all the void holes I find it difficult and would rather just time a movespell

[graceful shoal]

is 230% enough?

[unkempt hinge]

I mean u can try it

[graceful shoal]

should be lel

[unkempt hinge]

I can get u the real numbers for how far u need to move

[graceful shoal]

yeah 230% is more than enough

[unkempt hinge]

u need to move 6.5 blocks in 0.5 seconds to avoid taking any damage

if ur within 5 blocks of the center of the explosion u take extra damage aswell

well actually its √42 blocks u need to move 🤓

[graceful shoal]

https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder/?v=1#9_0Au01gCI-10000LConduit of Spirit0230510G020hm0J0202M0M0201T0S0201f0j010660n010880q010PP12010ee1F013441H01344CR-19F966I9u7j7j9i910QjCR-19C8v457u9h9h9W91CR-19C8v457u9h9h9W91CR-19C9c457u459i9c910Ji028CI-100004Warp025040103057090530-600C07135-1550F50M0201Z0S0201z0W010P0i023442C0j013wV0q0200R1r0s0200F110t0200s3g0z023994x120105K1D0231Q650T0+1f-P2b1g00001007lU0z0z0+0+0+0+0s1Tl-p+cIt6

this build is built for tna , no matter what roll of warp you have you will be shilling

[lament roost]

warp has no problem out walking it

if it's a decent ws warp lol

[graceful shoal]

i out walked at 230%

idk whats the threshold

[unkempt hinge]

I mean part of the reason I added the void holes being spawned durring watched

was to nerf pure walkspeed

as a counter to it

[graceful shoal]

just run in first person lmfao

[unkempt hinge]

i mean its possible lol

not meant to be impossible

just it was a free win before

if u had walkspeed

[graceful shoal]

but ngl mage is just best class now a days

[unkempt hinge]

:( warrior meta please

been wanting it sense 2015

[graceful shoal]

it can if provoke fix

[lament roost]

warrior is good you can do a good job in any raid but usually not the best in the dmg and healing Rankin

[graceful shoal]

200k ehp guardians can play tna then and acrobat can use cata then

and boom whole tna becomes one tap

i am seeing some mf using shadestepper to lr in ashmord

man i will just go sleep

[lament roost]

btw u roughly only need 100 ws to outrun watched

[graceful shoal]

i can bet mine right nut that thats false

at 230 i like semi barely dodge

[lament roost]

sprint vro

[graceful shoal]

i am including sprint

[graceful shoal]

you also have to dodge those fountains btw that spawns

[lament roost]

ye

[unkempt hinge]

lbender should be able to just tank and heal watched

[graceful shoal]

i will once i get monster or lament just wait

[unkempt hinge]

I am surpised I ahvnt seen a video of someone doing it yet

[graceful shoal]

just dont tell me there is some 100% damage

[unkempt hinge]

and being like earm I thought watched was meant to be hard?

watched does 50% MAX_HP in a 6.5 block radius and 1k of all gregs damages in a 5 block radius

so u are punished more for being even worse at dodging

[graceful shoal]

hmm it seems it can be out healed but did you included void holes damage?

[lament roost]

use the rune of acceleration to help you

[graceful shoal]

trinket is just hard to find a actual seller

[lament roost]

dO bonfire

[unkempt hinge]

no

[graceful shoal]

how much % ws it is?

[lament roost]

game u can buy it rn

[unkempt hinge]

tbh adding that shit complicates the math a lot

depends on if ur getting hit by void worm projectiles

or if a little one spawned

or if u got teleported when falling

[graceful shoal]

whats its damage? considering if you failinf dodge its 100% that you will fall in void hole

[lament roost]

use it when 3Rd room just ended and you about to tp to buff room so you get positive ws once it's watched

[graceful shoal]

what can be avg% max hp damage?

[lament roost]

cuz the firsr 45 seconds of this trinket is a negative ws for you then it gets faster

[graceful shoal]

there are 3 watched phases ;-;

[lament roost]

do Greg faster lol

[graceful shoal]

and yes pls nerf that 3 hits then 1.5sec invinsiblity gambit pls 😭

i want to do 3/3 gambits runs , that fucking gambit is a peice of trash

on acrobat it becomes worse

[lament roost]

@graceful shoal get someone to give you windy feet

[graceful shoal]

man just speed of surge

[lament roost]

like 230 ws is plenty for tna

[graceful shoal]

i need gregs ass jiggle physics

[unkempt hinge]

I cant do that sadly

[graceful shoal]

sobs

[graceful shoal]

can you do this? 🥹

[lament roost]

if ur using warp just spam tp from one side to another side on the arena

and keep repeating it

[graceful shoal]

i can but that rubberbanding boders are so annoying

[lament roost]

dw you can tp out of it lol

[unkempt hinge]

thats it no more greg for you

[graceful shoal]

ping

i have 230 ms i cant quiclky get out whatso ever

[lament roost]

bro I got 200 ping too

[graceful shoal]

you can do that?

[lament roost]

it's fine ye I played some Loonibender in tna

[graceful shoal]

use this build , its purely tuned for tna only

its so good , cracked damage ehp and ws

i should do a tna run so i can find more bugs

so i cna spam ping lumi again 😭

[graceful shoal]

you online?

[lament roost]

na not rn

although I remember we did play together few days ago

[graceful shoal]

alr

and you thrown on first watched beam

[lament roost]

na I'm just experimenting different ways to avoid watched

and escape is ass when you have 200 ping compared to walking

[graceful shoal]

all movement are ass except charge

[unkempt hinge]

try avoiding it with blindness

[unkempt hinge]

hot take I like haul

[graceful shoal]

;-;

[unkempt hinge]

its kinda hard but idk it has like a thing to it

its harder to go in a straight line

but u can do more crazy movements with it

[graceful shoal]

use frog jump thingy to make haul charge easy

[unkempt hinge]

fwog jwump use base haul not this pussy crap

[lament roost]

you don't know the desperation when you escape in watched and you got caught into the void wind or when you are about to land on the worm splitting 15 blobs up spawned by another teammate

[unkempt hinge]

dont get caught in void winds simple ass

thoe personally I really think archer escape should just be changed in the way it works

the fact that its the only movespell u CANT cast mid air is just

bad

for balance

[ember perch]

^ based take

[lament roost]

kinda need ws in tna if u going archer or you need at least 40k ehp to tank some stuff

to use like escape

[ember perch]

archery mobility would go crazy if you could cast it more than once midair

[lament roost]

yea

[graceful shoal]

new debuff idea , fountain's block gives - 100ws debuff

[lament roost]

like the blob shot out by the worms

[graceful shoal]

yeah

[lament roost]

zamn

[graceful shoal]

those who are lacking make them lack more

• its seems slimy blocks so -ws seems appropriate

morph users will be cooked

[unkempt hinge]

I will take this seriously and add this

[graceful shoal]

[ember perch]

at most make it the purple blobs on the floor from like, the witch fight in olux that give walkspeed than the thing onhit

[graceful shoal]

bro is cooking code now

[lament roost]

add something that makes shit harder for airborne classes

[graceful shoal]

hell no, dont make ws a neccescity for watched

[lament roost]

bro all the archer guys 😭

[unkempt hinge]

well if ur idea gets added

[graceful shoal]

that idea do make skills matter

[unkempt hinge]

what if the void worms spit out the skulls

instead of the purple blobs

[lament roost]

that could be a guild raid thing

[graceful shoal]

what if tna just comes out and nuke every one to 1 hp like panic zeloat?

[unkempt hinge]

no im joking its a terrible idea

[unkempt hinge]

what if tna just could consume the whole arena in a giant void hole

[ember perch]

yeah throw panic zealot snares in there

massive void hole above your head dropping the skulls 24/7

[graceful shoal]

what if we just remove tna as whole and replace its area as a giant vole hole?

[unkempt hinge]

what if all of wynn gets sucked into a void hole and there is no more wynn

and the void hole goes to gregs belly and he eats it all

the man is skin and bones rn he is starving

[graceful shoal]

what if you go back to fruma instead of chit chatting so it can come befor 4024

[unkempt hinge]

sorry after working on wynn today I had the audacity to just chit chat

back to the ol grindstone

[graceful shoal]

leak some stuff

lets say leak a block from fruma

[unkempt hinge]

fruma has stuff I made in it

so u know its gunna suck alread y

[graceful shoal]

alr you sure tna dont have bugs anymore?

cos i am pulling out a funni

[unkempt hinge]

I mean did u find one?

[graceful shoal]

nah jk , but it wont be the case tommorow

i gotta sleep rn , alr o/

[unkempt hinge]

I mean I cant KNOW content doesn't have bugs cuz I cant playtest all the millions of small differences that can happen in runs

just gotta have it reported and playtest myself the best I can

and hope my files dont get half pushed >:(

[steady lynx]

Easily

50-60 with stormy feet is enough

[lament roost]

need around like 110-120 if ur not running archer

[steady lynx]

• watched itself is actually very easy to dodge, worm spits are the real killers

[graceful shoal]

i want eyes like that

[graceful shoal]

wake up new bug alert

this one is bugged and not accepting red bulb

the bulb duped at 0:49

looks like either that arch bomb"temporaly" killed it or ur respawn script is too sensitive

i should get a prize at this point on how many bugs i have reported

guys dont chat here so we can keep track and things tidy till lumi wakes up

[graceful shoal]

brand new isopetra dupe on 2nd tree

[balmy plaza]

oh hey thats me

how tf did we lose that raid 😭

[graceful shoal]

womp womp 2 new bug

1st , red bulb dupe, me and him duped it by idk maby killing at same time
2nd if you get out with bulb on ur head ur are softlocked

[unkempt hinge]

FUCK I think I know what happened

its actually JPs fault if u can believe that

[unkempt hinge]

hmm it duped when u captured it

so yea the reset must not be ordered correctly

[graceful shoal]

this one is also funni

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277504218823000146/1278020692255969361/giphy.gif

[unkempt hinge]

the duping the red bulb idk how the fuck that happened

cuz it starts the script on anyone who damages it BUT

it has 1 HP

so u had to both hit it on like the exact tick or something?

I can fix just find it odd and I didnt think it could even happen

[graceful shoal]

Also players cant use spell and get soft lock if they exit while carrying red bulb

[unkempt hinge]

yee

tbh that just shouldnt have even been possible

Im pretty sure something changed on the backend because hitting a mob on the same tick for 1 hp wasnt a thing before

[graceful shoal]

Also red bulbs still spawns after 3/3 blue bulb

[unkempt hinge]

bulb keepers?

well all these issues should be fixed now

thoe im not 100% sure what caused the blue bulb to dupe I think I found it and fixed it

its hard to test stuff when the bug really is server tps fucking up the order of shit

[graceful shoal]

add world lagging scripts

[unkempt hinge]

unironically thoe would be helpful

[weak sundial]

theres a way

[unkempt hinge]

oh yippiee

[steady lynx]

Add a time themed boss whose whole gimmick would be that he lags the world a
lot to „slow down time”

[graceful shoal]

yeah then accidentally push it to main

[unkempt hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-gif-523038869044733220

[graceful shoal]

bro did the dirty

[tardy crest]

is the armless being able to be dragged by multihit intended?

[graceful shoal]

bro , dont report funni things

i love it attackin in air while getting multihitted

[tardy crest]

[unkempt hinge]

sorry having fun is a bug

[graceful shoal]

red bulb dupe is going crazy

1 bulb catcher and all 3/3 done lmfao

[unkempt hinge]

honestly I think something changed with the code backend

cuz before this never happened and I didnt change how it worked

its just a mob with 1 HP and if u kill it u get the bulb

but now 3 people can be counted as killing the mob with 1 hp

but its fixed anyway

[graceful shoal]

idk lmfao its consistent also

[unkempt hinge]

yea the fact its consistent makes me think its some back end change

I just added an extra data check to make sure if its run on 2 people only 1 person gets the bulb, such checks are used all over just didnt think it was needed here until this

[graceful shoal]

yikes , but its so cool ngl

[graceful shoal]

also wanna make isopetra bug into feature?

[unkempt hinge]

JP...

old dev that added bugs to copy pasting and never fixed them

basically when u copy paste a region with armorstands (which are used for script regions) SOMETIMES they duplicate the armorstands

and its impossible to tell 2 are on top of each other by looking at them

when I fixed the teleport issue I had to copy paste the tree onto production map

[graceful shoal]

i mean just double is bad but how about making isopetra just a straing up chance to spawn whenever you use a void portal

[unkempt hinge]

and doing that duplicated 1 armorstand region

i went and checked the rest only that one is duplicated

[graceful shoal]

so one can come out with 2 hearts with one traversal instead of two

[unkempt hinge]

bad idea

it would defeat the point of navigation

[graceful shoal]

i mean make 2nd lower chance

[unkempt hinge]

when u enter the tree it picks 1 colored room for the guy to spawn in

if u can just go through portals over and over

to get one to spawn

u dont need to navigate

[graceful shoal]

can we do like , make it choose 2 rooms but its based on chances 1 heart 100% and 2nd be like 50%

[unkempt hinge]

I dont see a reason

[graceful shoal]

to speed up ofc

well if you dont think its ok

just fix bugs

[unkempt hinge]

I really dont think its needed

the issues imo that room had where being inside is confusing and being outside was a bit boring

I color coded the portals with mushrooms to help people know what room they lead too

and the outside area was expanded a bit

which I think is all it really needed

[graceful shoal]

meh one can memorise all gates with like 4-5 random guesses

actual fun would be to disconnect all gates and make outgate random

[unkempt hinge]

yea thats what I think buttt

I got so many people saying it should be color coded

so I did

[graceful shoal]

also i think lost eye is a bit speedy and have kinda hugging behaviour lmfao ( it also do a fuck ton of damage )

[mystic token]

Light room could use some way to let player disperse

[vivid lava]

that's not really the point of the room though, is it?
the whole objective is to coordinate staying together while clearing the room out
chiropterror has a reason for being the personification of a statue user

[real cargo]

My thoughts and suggestions for TNA:

reduce defend room big voidhole's hp, 10 is just too much with how little hp the minions have
reduce the unstable voidholes' hp, they're just kinda annoyingly tanky and it makes the room very boring imo

[graceful shoal]

its fine ,atleast they dont hit back

[graceful shoal]

or, lower the damage players take so they can disperse for 10-15 sec away from light

[unkempt hinge]

I mean at that point it defeats the point of the room

10-15 seconds in a room like that is a lot

for finding the shadowlings in particular

[vivid lava]

screenshot of my own message goes here

[graceful shoal]

surprise no bugs today

phew

[unkempt hinge]

yippieee

[lament roost]

@unkempt hinge pls make the greater one only target the guy that spawned the little one that turned into the greater one

[unkempt hinge]

cant do that

I cant set or lock a mobs target on a specific person

tbh not being able to control targets is annoying u can only make it randomly pick a new one

[graceful shoal]

lumi what if i tell u i recorded party disband raid softlock

[unkempt hinge]

report that to lex or devs

as I cant control parties

or the back end of raids

u can give me the recording to pass along

[graceful shoal]

yea i can give you but it kinda have sus chat so

[unkempt hinge]

sus?

https://tenor.com/view/amongus-gif-4415597529176870237

[graceful shoal]

just dont mind the message sent from mine side

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-26899454

if i got muted remember my sacrifice

https://streamable.com/zmr6dl

[lament roost]

is there just no fix to falling into void hole not get tped and get stuck then dmg twice

[unkempt hinge]

what do u mean by this?

get stuck?

[lament roost]

as in u just stay in the hole

and not get tped anywhere

[graceful shoal]

YEAH i remember this , if you lagged into void hole it applies damage infinitely until next tick

[lament roost]

then the dmg tick twice

[graceful shoal]

maby add ifarmes to it too

[unkempt hinge]

if that is the case I just cant fix that

there is no need for I frames

its an on enter region

it does the damage when u enter than ends

and doesnt trigger again

[graceful shoal]

it kinda feels it do

i do get ur words but doest feels like that

[graceful shoal]

almost 1.4k messages in 4 days

damn we cooked

[lament roost]

@graceful shoal

you dont need to like run around with warp

doing this is enough and wont mess up other ppl

[graceful shoal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823917930231365654/1102684865826148362/ignore.gif

[graceful shoal]

aww man how do you have enought ws with div

[lament roost]

stormy feet is goated 🐐

[graceful shoal]

give me ur build rn

[lament roost]

its just the one in blues build 2.0

and you equip 2 ws tomes and offhand traveler

[graceful shoal]

u use angels?

[lament roost]

doesnt make a difference i just use it so i can save ap for cheaper bomb after grape

[graceful shoal]

looks like i have to learn handling div in tna after tcc

[lament roost]

and i like power shots more

[graceful shoal]

homing necc for ms?

[lament roost]

but technically skipping gangels is better

nope thats wasting ap

[graceful shoal]

meh i hate arc cos of its movment spell

[lament roost]

yea its shit

[graceful shoal]

it have - hpr

hmmm aint that annoying with 10k ehp?

[lament roost]

which one

the blues build 2.0 one doesnt have negative hpr

[graceful shoal]

https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder/?v=8#9_0uB07Y0Je0Lg0TQ0uP0FN0mu0QS1B2O0e+6sf1g10006C10006C10006C10006C10036C0z0z0+0+0+0+0-1T-pz77p5i6

[lament roost]

not this one use delirium as chestplate instead

[graceful shoal]

rest same?

[lament roost]

if ur not using a delirium with near max ws rolls u aint outrunning watched

yes

[lament roost]

@unkempt hinge bro can you change the floating void hole thing that drops the hand down bro it always has this aoe and someone with it just moves on me and breaks my elusive

[unkempt hinge]

I mean thats kinda the point of the attack

unless u mean something I am not understanding

ur issue is when it drops it does an aoe that damages everyone?

[lament roost]

ye

[steady lynx]

Can you make it keep randomly choosing targets in a loop until it picks a specific player ?

[mystic token]

My only issue with the attack is that it uses the outdated nameless arm

[wintry zephyr]

...by giving it the new tna look

[lament roost]

@unkempt hinge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CXtET8sILs can you make so the flying skulls have a glow effect similarly to greg so its easier to see, same for the color of the purple rings it spawns its really difficult to spot them sometimes

[unkempt hinge]

Yes to skulls no to purple ring

Purple ring doesn't need it

[lament roost]

not a glow to purple ring cuz i imagine its not possible to do

but like change its color it blends in with the purple line thing on tna arena

[unkempt hinge]

Purple line?

I don't think it blends

And it has glowing on it

Not the glow outline but it glows in it's own light

[lament roost]

you know when i run with 200+ ws and with this like weird quake third person it just blends

btw does greg ws scale with whoever its on aggro

[unkempt hinge]

No

[lament roost]

also is it an intended design that armless and the flying skull greg spawned still stays after greg started watching phase

@unkempt hinge

[unkempt hinge]

Yes

[cosmic lava]

what spell marco is it?

[lament roost]

uh wynncraft spell caster

i use it for storm

bomb its just faster and easier to use ur fingers

[cosmic lava]

how u bypass the marco limit

[lament roost]

u cant

cap is still 10 clicks per second

[cosmic lava]

what did u set it to?

[lament roost]

i just use the default one

you might slightly wanna set it higher if ur on higher ping

[cosmic lava]

is it cause my ping or what

even i click like 10cps my spell still cast slowly

[lament roost]

probably server lag or ur ping

and it feels slower when you are playing but when you are watching a video it looks like its faster

[unkempt hinge]

added glow to skulls but i maintain it is not needed for the purple

and I think adding too much would be visual clutter

[graceful shoal]

just merge previous particles and current model

[lament roost]

yea that sounds very good

it stands out with old particiles when they are wroking and if the particles doesnt work you still have model

[steady lynx]

@unkempt hinge

Mages status: IN PANIC

[unkempt hinge]

dont get hit

if ur not like acro or a flying class they are not too hard to dodge

tbh tp is like one of the best spells to dodge it

[graceful shoal]

what about that ws debuff

[unkempt hinge]

ill add that to watched

[graceful shoal]

[unkempt hinge]

or to gregs melee attack :)

[graceful shoal]

best idea , add it to handless and update there attack so it kb player to other living handless when geeing hit

table tennis in greg

will we see some day when tna buffs are good like tcc ones

😭 tcc buff feels like buffs , tna t3 buffs are debuffs lmfao

[unkempt hinge]

that is the ideas the ims who made the buffs had

to have the t3 ones come with a downside

I dont know how i feel about it but watever

[graceful shoal]

tcc or any other raid dont follow this pattern

only tna have debuffs in their buffs

[unkempt hinge]

ya

[graceful shoal]

ngl i am perfectly ok with nerfing them but pls remove debuffs ngl

[unkempt hinge]

that was the idea to make it different

idk

tbf old tcc raid buffs were kinda stupid

they were too powerful so mob stats were way too inflated to compensate

imo

[graceful shoal]

for ex in ins3 just give us like 35-40% spell but pls remove -ws or in fading halv the spell bonous but -50 skill point is kinda stupid

[graceful shoal]

ngl tcc raid in boring gameplay wise but its so much better mechanics and player buffing wise as they complete challanges

tna is cooler gameplay wise but i do feel its kinda not that rewarding to player

@weak sundial nice fix

[ember perch]

lightbenders try not to afk through the boss challenge impossible

the skulls are fairly easy to dodge literally just move spell away from them

[graceful shoal]

@unkempt hinge tcc ☕

[real cargo]

tna thread 🔥

[graceful shoal]

its now becoming random chit chat of big brain individials who dont brain rot

[real cargo]

rename it then

[graceful shoal]

Making raids great again

[wintry zephyr]

Petition to rename armless to graspless

[unkempt hinge]

He is armless because he doesn't have an arm

Just a hand

[wintry zephyr]

makes sense

[real cargo]

handful

[steady lynx]

ngl new purple models are way harder to notice than particles

[unkempt hinge]

how?

I call bullshit

u can say maybe it needs to be more visable, which I disagree, but to say the particles were better is just bullshit

the only issue I can see with them is being they are flat they are a bit harder to see on the ground, but still easier to see than the particles

like I have eyes too lol, u cant tell me something that is directly contradictory to what I can see

[steady lynx]

legit keep running into them, wasnt an issue before

[unkempt hinge]

perhaps if the center of them darker?

so instead of a dark swirl and invisible space, the whole center was dark and the swirl even darker

[steady lynx]

it might be some parts of the arena that are darker blend it a little i can try to record

[unkempt hinge]

the thing is glowing

like ligit it glows

darkness wont shade it

[steady lynx]

it is 👀 ?

[unkempt hinge]

yea?

[wintry zephyr]

When i saw them in the vid i thought they looked pale but they stand out pretty well in game

[unkempt hinge]

with my brightness all the way down

[wintry zephyr]

I didnt even know they glow

[wintry zephyr]

In fullbright too, and thats where they would blend in more

[steady lynx]

ok i see wynntils fullbright makes them hard to notice

[unkempt hinge]

I mean if ur using a no gama setting

[steady lynx]

case closed

[unkempt hinge]

I will prob still fill in the center a bit

make it easier to see

[wintry zephyr]

Idk i still see fine

[steady lynx]

nah not need its just fullbright issue

[wintry zephyr]

How does glowing work btw?

[unkempt hinge]

like glow squids lol

it treats the mob like it has no darkness or shadow effecting it

[wintry zephyr]

Thats cool

How about making tna into a neon district, where all models have glowing

Actually the entire game

[graceful shoal]

i need this kind of visiblity

[unkempt hinge]

[wintry zephyr]

The price for it is not seeing anything else

[graceful shoal]

how about a custom beacon like blue fire and oriphon's beams

[wintry zephyr]

Wait, 1.20 means you have access to the invisible light block

Right?

[unkempt hinge]

no

[unkempt hinge]

we already did

[graceful shoal]

make the beam winder if you know what i am saying

the diameter of beam

and shorten the height to 1-2 blocks

now if some one complains after that change, just tell them they are straight up blind

[wintry zephyr]

Void holes could use a bit more visibility as well, how about a pillar of open fence gates, so you can clearly see where they are but still pass through

[balmy plaza]

i disagree

[graceful shoal]

@unkempt hinge tree portals are bugging sometimes

its just dont works until next soul sacrifice

[unkempt hinge]

so u sacrifice soul the doors open and the tp just doesn't work?

Ill look at it

[steady lynx]

I also disagree with that statement

[graceful shoal]

yeah you have to wait till it closes , after some one sac again then it works

[balmy plaza]

you disagree with your original statement or with my disagreement?

[lament roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSlfhC3bshw&t=1s @unkempt hinge the void grenades have a too big of a hitbox in my opinion sometimes i feel like it didnt even get near me and still hit me anyway

e.g. 45 second

[steady lynx]

Are u posting every time u clutch with divzer 👀 ? Also agree they are big

[lament roost]

mainly when theres something i think should be changed

better to have some video evidence

[graceful shoal]

it feels like a ping issue

cos the blood particles always spawns on you

the blood spawn is where ur location was on server side

but yeah , nerf it pls

https://tenor.com/view/car-crash-crash-car-gif-26472654

^ ur situation

[whole urchin]

what atree are you running? why does it look like you have elusive but not hurricane (only 2 streams), grape bomb, bouncing bomb (?) and only 2 angels?

[graceful shoal]

@unkempt hinge is it indented for these to stack damage when overlapping?

that 1 shotted me at 40k ehp

[vivid lava]

I think they've always done that
another case of The Nameless politely asking you to stop loitering

[real cargo]

hey so could we have some way to point attention towards the parkour tower in golem escort's final part?

new players never notice that its there

[unkempt hinge]

fixed in next patch

[vivid lava]

whar
they're not supposed to do that?

[unkempt hinge]

no they didnt used to but when some stuff got changed about them they started to

cuz it is stupid when 3 or 4 are on top of each other and u get basically 1 hit

[vivid lava]

the nameless' signature brand of Use A Walkspeed Build

[graceful shoal]

Now nerf watched

[graceful shoal]

Damn

[wintry zephyr]

(did not happen)

[unkempt hinge]

yes

[unkempt hinge]

I mean people were asking me to keep watched doing damage to everyone in the arena

I wish to god I kept a screenshot of the couple people demanding I keep it in

[unkempt hinge]

ur on my list

[wintry zephyr]

naughty or nice?

[unkempt hinge]

evil

[wintry zephyr]

way to dodge the question

[vivid lava]

the EVIL list

[lament roost]

@unkempt hinge when is the nerf for grenade hit box coming it's so big

[real cargo]

wtf is a grenade

[graceful shoal]

hi! i am bug

me when i can consiously go and kill bulbs

well it did respawn so gj but still a bug so

cracked damage to bulb right there

[lament roost]

the black balls with a tint of blue it throws to you

[real cargo]

this?

thats the most blackhole looking blackhole ive ever seen how is that a grenade 💀

[lament roost]

it explodes like a grenade

[real cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/mrfresh-sad-cat-awkward-you-fr-rn-gif-12281662479441162282

[lament roost]

where it is landing is really unclear and the actual hit box of this is also unclear

[unkempt hinge]

It's not too big

[unkempt hinge]

Lol wtf

[graceful shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/turning-red-red-panda-disney-pixar-turning-gif-25106988

it can be counter as i got agility dodge

but why tf blub attacks and mimics players movement when inside it\

[graceful shoal]

also, it counts toward daily quests of slaying lvl 100+ mobs ngl ,it can be meta

[real cargo]

Raid changes

The Nameless Anomaly

Bulb room

• the blue bulb now has 1000 hp and must be protected from mobs and your own spells, killing the bulb results in a raid fail

[graceful shoal]

wow

thats 🔥

[wintry sentinel]

all feedback invalid because title, let's pick a different slogan

[real cargo]

Raid Feedback Thread

[graceful shoal]

Cyberbullying lumi into fixing tna

[graceful shoal]

valid

[graceful shoal]

@weak sundial tcc starting cutsence softlocks if any party member dc while its playing

insert salted saying "who was saying we are rushing update

[weak sundial]

what?

why does it do that

ugh

???? it shouldnt be doing that

there are failsafes to prevent that

[graceful shoal]

[weak sundial]

im not seeing any errors anywhere so im not sure whats going on and this isnt really actionable

[graceful shoal]

i think the animation plays just the camera dont moves , nither tp happens

[weak sundial]

does it still progress the raid

[graceful shoal]

nope , ur party disbands and you are stranded in air until you dc or /class

[unkempt hinge]

tbh I really have no idea why this is happening

also the bulbs have 100 mill HP

and even still they should not be killable to begin with...

does it still happen? and can u get more video of it

[unkempt hinge]

bulb respawning system working as intended

[graceful shoal]

I think it's counter

Cos you can see I dodged an attack

Tbh Just make so bulb don't attack lol

Idk if that's possible

Also it's only possible on warrior

No other class can do it

[unkempt hinge]

they cant

attack

[graceful shoal]

they do

just like training dummies

if you stand inside them , it triggers counter if dodged

[unkempt hinge]

OH SHIT it can if its got 0/0 captures

but if it has any captures it cant

[graceful shoal]

yeah

[unkempt hinge]

will fix

[graceful shoal]

also yeah

[unkempt hinge]

done

[graceful shoal]

@weak sundial we again faced golem despawning

:sobs:

[unkempt hinge]

Respawning my behated

[weak sundial]

will be fixed next time we push

[mystic token]

the void hole grenades by greg are too hard to dodge without a lot of WS or insane reaction times

[unkempt hinge]

I just do not agree

they shoot upward at a pretty large angle my guy

they dont shoot directly at u

and frankly I am at the point where I am done making random small changes at a whim as I need to move on to work on other projects

[mystic token]

That's fairrrr

[unkempt hinge]

if u want guild raid bosses anytime soon I gotta focus on doing them lol

[mystic token]

YO LUMI WAIT I HAVE A GOOD IDEA

Bring back orphion's area denial mechanic from 2.0.4 😀

The one where a quarter of the arena turned red

Guild raid finished fr

[unkempt hinge]

not working on that raid

and as the person who came up with that mechanic that mechanic sucked

I dont like it >:(

[wintry zephyr]

Crystalines switch rotation direction every time one dies

[ember perch]

crystalines insta crystalise you

[lament roost]

double crystalline healing and crystalline hp

[unkempt hinge]

Improvements to accepting Soul in the Nameless tree room. A message in chat now appears when the void holes close, and players will be removed from the Altar if they attempt to give soul while the void holes are open.

I believe these changes should also fix the weird issues of void holes opening but not working that I saw before

[mystic token]

Very nice

Thank you lumi

[wintry zephyr]

btw im not sure what the public opinion on skulls is but i find myself taking less damage than before

its never more (🐦‍⬛ ) than one hit

[unkempt hinge]

yea...

thats what the change was

u can only get hit by 1 at a time

but they kill your healing and dont go away after hitting u

[wintry zephyr]

do they kill heal received

[unkempt hinge]

they do - heal eff

the exact same as annies

[wintry zephyr]

so no

[weak sundial]

we dont have a way to cut healing received

[wintry zephyr]

uhm actually you could increase player max health and damage taken 🤓

[wintry zephyr]

skulls sometimes dash extra times when server is laggy, i find that funny

[graceful shoal]

Now nerf watched

[unkempt hinge]

buffing watched

[graceful shoal]

That also works tbh, either buff or nerf it

[unkempt hinge]

no warning lazer, 1 hit kills, and blindness!

[graceful shoal]

+no ws for 5 c after being hit

[unkempt hinge]

well its a 1 hit kill so

maybe just give -100 walk speed lol

on start of watched

[graceful shoal]

No particles on watched what so ever, random timing of boom, 1 hit kill, - 100ws for 5s after hit, 1 gurannted watched hit to every player ignoring there ws

Easy fix

Btw

What if we can kill sight seeing interceptor

To fasten the phase, it colu have some interesting gimic to kill like we have to boom Greg with it's own watched

And it can have 3 watched health

So, tbh it should complete the objective of wiping 1/2 player while making the phase faster

[vivid lava]

void holes now NEVER reset
early 2.1 was RIGHT

[unkempt hinge]

that was actually an early idea I had for guild raid tna

but im not gunna do that

maybe just a longer time to reset

[graceful shoal]

@umbral zodiac

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[steady lynx]

This is kinda true

But current standards got insane already and guild tcc can die in like 20s

[graceful shoal]

guild = friends = better person = better gamer = harder game

[real cargo]

kinda agree

but buffing his hp would just fuck over new players I feel like

hp buff would be a bandaid fix

[steady lynx]

Tbh I wouldn’t be mad if bosses for guild raids specifically got a general huge hp buff like +150% instead of current +30%, normal raids should remain the same if the philosophy is to make graids crazy

[steady lynx]

Ok worm with 150% might be quite though

[graceful shoal]

Meh just create a mage pure class at lvl 65

It outputs 500k +dps and have like 80k ehp

[steady lynx]

Also I hate this hp scaling a lot ngl, very abusable, has low usage for true low levels anyway

[graceful shoal]

Worm is just fuxked up both scaling wise and boss bugging out wise

[steady lynx]

It’s not like first timer 70 level player will be able to raid like at all

This feature only serves people who grind 60-80 level characters now to abuse it 😭

[graceful shoal]

Best team is 1 rolling rukus 1 pure 1 guardian and 1 abso

Easy idk 1-2 mins 1 phase worm

Then comes 30 emblock per run

[steady lynx]

Its fire because this raid is burning money on runes to get less

[graceful shoal]

Meh az is cheap af now so it's cope ig

[steady lynx]

Ah it dropped already, didn’t check it for quite some time cause Annie gives like morphillion of these

[graceful shoal]

Plus server get sub 10 worm runs per day also

Ngl converting az to uth may make crazy les

Ngl it feels this channel is becoming general for more than 2 brain cell guys

[graceful shoal]

aww man , looks i am getting slowed down in finding bugs

[unkempt hinge]

ill add some just for you

[graceful shoal]

real

add dupes

[real cargo]

i just thought of an idea for tcc plat room

what if upper had to be held for 3s to open door for 3s

so that it doesnt "flicker" a lot like currently

[graceful shoal]

just duped blue bulbs again

both of them were visible

but only 1 was targeted by bulb catches ,also there were like fuck ton of catchers

both bulbs were at 1/3 red bulbs

[wintry zephyr]

How about you dupe some le instead

[real cargo]

how about you dupe some bi

[real cargo]

ghosts can reset nol resource room parkour

oh this thread is about tna again my bad

[graceful shoal]

@unkempt hinge have you heard of 15s berry room?

i will let you figure it out urself

cos its actually making the room bearable , but alas i have to report it to assert dominace on u

if you found it urself you are allowed to fix ,if not let it stay also no cheating

[unkempt hinge]

I don't care if people are doing that

tbh