#Divzer in NoL
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its more of a glass cannot
yeah it's glass, but if the attacks cannot be dodged then it dosen't matter as you'll be dead to do any damage
which notg also has an issue btw
guys i spent all my money on an epoch but i didnt do top dps in tcc, bad game design please fix
But damage is shit
It is shit because attacka are undodgeable consistently
like if it was made so that u can actully dodge attacks in raid, divzer would be a high risk high reward gameplay
now instead of high risk high reward, it's confirm death and make your teammate think u are throwing
9k ehp 
The current meta is not built for hyper glass playstyles. Raids are especially guilty of that
You basically have to play LB to get consistent gameplay or spam pots
Or just be good at the game lol
not rly, I do fine with trapper
some of the raids are a complete circus show
trapper allows you to stay far away from the boss, that was the single worst example you could've given
I do fine with arcanist
tell me u never played trapper without telling me u never played trapper:
archer is so fun to play, you can build glassy and deal less damage than mage or you can build tanky and deal less damage than mage
You play laby trapper, wth are you doing anywhere close to the boss?
mana traps + arrow storm go brrr
Yeahh that's the stuff
ur dps will be dogshit if u r completly passive with trapper lmao
Are these the guys who filled their bank up with godly stratospheres caesuras and emage boots before the update and are now coping bc etw is not meta
did people do that?
I'm sorry but some of the raids rn are not in a good position and if you disagree then you are either biased or are in the top 1% of insanely good players
Surely not…
They’re so much more fun than before idk what u mean
its more of the fact that 99% of the time lb is better at everything unless ur doing a dps check (world events)
Or… hear me out… people have different opinions than you!
Some shit are not ok with raids that’s for sure (mini boss in the nol resources room needs a nerf or to give more than 1 crystal)
orphion fight 
And everything in tna is easy, they just make up for it by making every fucking mob a damage sponge
You were the guy who said skill issue and then proceeded to complain about the issues the raid has, who are you impressing bro?
More of a boss fight for pcs and server lag ngl
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I think they don’t mean the raids are flawless, just better than before
Oh def better
Almost like I can understand when I am wrong. As I admitted back there…
Other than TNA, just make the mobs stronger and give them less hp pwease
Then stop brushing off the issues other people are facing
I would prefer a short and challenging boss rather than a boring long one
tna and tcc are a lot better but nol and notg are so laggy buggy and overscaled that in their current state theyre less fun, at least for me
Like, holy hell you go into every thread to spam skill issue it's getting old
… dude uses a glassy build where glass isn’t meta
Like i said the raid design basically doesn't allow for glass
I’ve barely ever seen anyone say skill issue in here lol and probably not this guy
It’s not an issue. It’s them not matching into where they are
glassy builds should be able to clear content though
Thats kinda the aim of CT, they want some archetypes/ playstyle to not be viable in certain areas while viable in others
content shouldn't be built for just a few playstyles (eroded speed)
He said that to me in one of my thread, you can even ask him lol
when did they say this???
Tbh I find that being done on purpose kinda stupid but still
This
Ok but maybe have more ehp than the average lvl 60 player though…
Honestly give it time. We are at a beginning of a new meta. 2.0 wasn’t that different when it started
True
2.0 meta on greg was funny ngl
I meant beginning 2.0
look, all I'm saying is make it so that the attacks can be consistenly dodged if u are skilled enough, currently it takes more than skill to do so
Go to TCC for that
Tcc has more undodgable attacks ngl
Idk haven’t done it in a while lmao
tcc actually has windups and isnt as buggy but u shouldnt be locked out of content for playing an archetype
Ik tcc (needs a nickname btw) telegraphs his attacks
Altough for all/ most of orphions big attacks there are clear telegraphs
Idk I still can’t tell if it’s about to hit left middle or right, all the swings kinda look the same until they land
orphions are just a little buggy and the lag is horrible tbh
His reg attacks don’t, but like do not expect a few seconds of windup pre every attack
attacking before the bblackhole ends is just a meme at this point
Yeah thats just stupid
also crystalization is so confusing
Ig it’s like a lag issue
Me when orphion stacks like 30 of those vertical beams and 1 taps the monster player
and the waves the come when orphion charges? bounces u up so that u can get 1 shot by the boss, like this requires adjustment fr
maybe if they get the fight polished and out of a beta state itll be survivable as a glass player
the stun lock is insane in that raid
When u kill a crystal it starts to crystallize whoever killed it
U need to kill all 4 before it freezes all 4
Pray for teammates that are aware lol
Dont use pfinder 
But yeah that’s more of a pfinder issue
running raids like I'm warring is a joke holy shit
Would be nice if like there was a chat message when they spawn about it tho
if they made it simpler to understand maybe the pfinder flintstones would actually help 😭
Wdym?
or a cue
Yeah there should be chat messages when someone is about to get crystallized
And when they spawn
Wdym needing a stack? As in for gear?
as in playing with other competent friends
playing in a stack
have you heard of this saying before?
I mean either get lucky on pfinder and find some friends there. Or join a guild
But yeah pfinder is another can of worms that is another issue lmao
Not rly
Find some friends and get in a vc it’s really free with good comms
Or go into other wynn related disc servers and if u have a decent enough build other players will let u join them
Or just find a competent duo and u can usually carry pfinder
It sucks that some pfinder players are so shit that we gotta avoid them like the plague but… it is what it is ig
Also pfinder for notg and nol should rly match me people on my level. I dont want to carry lvl 80s in nol
If i cannot complete the raid with casual pfinder players, then smt is wrong for real
Spell Damage Divzer in TNA
like if you need ALL that setup to complete it is on the edge of being too hard
Raids are supposed to be difficult. Just cause u can’t beat the game consistently with players who don’t know what they are doing, does not mean the game is too hard. It just means it’s not piss easy
I think the problem isn’t your damage…
Damage is problem becoz can't fast kill with glasscannon
Hard, i agree, too hard is also an issue, and boy are there some stuff in some of these raid that make it too hard
I mainly play nol and tna. If the light room mobs actually do like 20k ehp damage I agree that shit like that needs a rebalance.
But casual players shouldn’t beat these raids for the first few times unless they get carried
Maybe use like broken balance and caesura or smth then and use mana pots for sustain 
first few times??? like how many times you want them to try??
Rly depends on each player ngl
Sounds pretty acceptable to me that endgames raids are not completed first try?
Until they learn the mechanics of the raid…
nol is not end game, that would be tcc and TNA
It takes a few tries to get
Considering scaling NOL and NOTG can also be considered endgame now
Are you aware that raids now scale to ur lvl in the new update
Yeah, but you access not at level 100 but at like level 80 or smt
It's just scales to higher level players
are you gonna call a level 10 world event endgame since it scales to you now...?
Nah since there is absolutely no reason to run it in the endgame
The raids do have a reason…
Also they rly don’t scale properly but that’s another topic
thunder defence noob
thunder defence? what
Oworphion has thunder def
orphion has thunder defence
meaning orphion takes less damage from thunder weapons and abilities with thunder conversion
it's from a divzer unless orphion has as much def as a touroto it's still gonna deal good daamge
divzer players when the glass cannon playstyle requires you to actually dodge attacks rather than being able to mindlessly dps the boss so fast it cant attack
Considering they said that… I think they want u to be able to fucking decimate orphion with div
orphion has a lot of thunder defence. ive seen people try to use divzer before and it was not effective. similar case to other bosses, groot and tna (idk about tcc i havent been able to play) all have high thunder defence
Bro please I spent too much money on my divzer
sell it again and buy something else
And def not… even with a glass cannon a raid boss should take a few minutes. You all got too spoiled with 2.0 trickobat and div TNA runs lmao
NOL and dodging do not belong in a sentence together
these noobs man…
the dont play glass cannon in NOL
played tna too much and dont know how to dodge a boss attack
Send me some gameplay foodtage brother, lets see your supreme gameplay
Also yeah this thread is just people refusing to change with the meta lmao
different builds have different times and places, maybe nol isnt the place for the glass cannon builds
Is that damage cap
raids in general dont support glass cannon
there isnt à damage cap, bosses just take less damage from certain types of elements
My face when people cant handle change: 🤣
aka divzer dealing thunder and orphion taking significantly less thunder damage
With new updates the meta changes and some stuff becomes meta while others get fucked by the new meta
Sry that some of u all had to learn that the hard way ig
Caps damage
killing glass mythics usage is 
it doesnt cap it, it reduces it
Cap is the wrong word, reduce is more accurate
Yep that cap
Ofc as time goes on the meta will change
that is not cap
💀
huh
@unique ether ask this guy to carry you, and report back to the thread
Cap is limiting it to a max. A resistance is either a flat out damage reduction or a % damage reduction
im 14,500km away from my computer sadly
use your phone to play wynncraft
mobile acrobat 😭
new meta just droped
:O nice hf!
Long story short. New update = new meta -> new builds required.
That’s how it works with every game of this sort
2k spell damage in Nol
Is reduc?
❓
Yes
6k spell damage in TNA
OP are you russian
U know the in game damage calc is rly inaccurate
yeah, though completely making some weapons unusable is 😭
There always were completely unusable weapons
wynncraft balancing in a nutshell sadly
a mythic tho, is just asd
you’ll have to get used to it. it’s always been like this
Gaia, arch, az
2k spell damage with bark 16m hp
az was op as fuck back then lol
Mate u won’t actually do 2k lmao
Base spell
sunstar inferno too
True!
Also some more I prob forgot
500k with dummi
same lol
toxo
inferno hmelee comback baby
so much uselessness 😇
Hoo lee shit
Good riddance ngl
I offhand archangel for hpr :)
in the year 2164
It actually kinda came back
no legit, there's a annie solo with that weapon lol
if your build can do 500k dps you do not have any right to complain about glass cannons being glassy
oh 💀
People don’t rly see it, but full tank is basically unplayable rn as well
The meta rn requires more of a balance between the 2
Do 500k damage with 7k spell damage
this has to be burst dps from when you first hit a dummy
Luckily no one was playinh full tank pre 2.1
Thank you timers btw :3
like 7,000% spell damage?
I can't do 500k damage with 2k damage
seeing LB makes me happy, since i can get free heals :D that's the good thing about this update
U actually think that u should be doing 500k dps to a raid boss?
it's more burst damage than anything, 500k dps is not possible since... boss in nol moves alot
Lb being meta is likely just the placeholder until the meta actually gets discovered
Thats how it was in 2.0 as well
Yeah but u r all acting as if orphion should be over in seconds with glassy builds
nah, with how much unavoidable daamage that raid does that's not happening anytime soon maybe a team comp with LB and a dps but LB will always be the most consisntent
Lb has been the most consistent for 2 years now, it’s nothing new
That’s why it rose in popularity rn
Maybe the meta will be 4 laby tapper archer who knows
Atm the meta is pretty easy to grasp
but that sounds like a 1 shot fest so maybbe not
Just balanced builds…
Don’t be a glass cannon or a tank with no dps… go in the middle
for nol u NEED heals, either lb or u pot a bunch, due to the fact that you WILL take damage with how the attacks are
Kinda sucks rn but the meta needs time to balance
Maybe it’s harder to hit a fast, laggy, strafing target like orphion than it is to hit a stationary dummy?
That’s nothing new…. Gl doing tcc in 1.20 or 2.0 without taking damage. Same for tna if u r not cheesing
Or any raid
I think u should need some amount of pots for all raids lol
If u can get through an entire raid without taking any damage there’s kinda a problem
Do u think that like every attack needs a clear telegraph or something?
If so the game will get too boring and easy too quickly
There is a reason u get a few thousand hp and that heal pots are dirt cheap
Let me give you a specific example, say I'm an archer, I just dodged orphion's charge, but the wave from his charge hits me, I am now in the air, I try to escape but it does not trigger, orphion charges me again while I'm in the air and I die, does this sound alright to you?
or better, it lags and orphion tp charges you and u just die
that sweet sweet 1 tick ko
First of all, we are talking about the raid itself. Lag is a different story
By wave u mean the light that appears behind him? Thats like insanely easy to dodge
I don't even know what the raid is supposed to be like because either alll of my raids were a lag fest or the raid itself is problematic
I never saw a wave that locked me in the air on archer
the blue waves that come from the sides of the light
when he charges
I am trying to understand what r u talking about
the kb on that is too much
Maybe I am too sleepy rn to remember it but idk
First of all if u get knocked into the air on archer u should have an escape spell u can use
sometimes it doesn't work, buggy escape, just like in tcc where escape doesn't work sometimes
it's just a 'theoretical' situation
So there is a bug… that’s also another issue that has nothing to do with the raid
yeah calling it out isn't hurting anyone right??
Ur theoretical situation relies on stuff u related to the raid
I am talking about the raid itself… not the bugs that it has
like i said issues of nol need to be adjusted
Everything is theoretical when u take lag into account…
I think I did like ~30 nol runs since 2.1 (not including beta) on warrior and archer. The only stunlock I had was the crystals
Ur perfect solution is to not play raids any time soon until they fix the server lag
it hppend to me ofc, where else do you get smt so specific? also I wasn't even sure if i was lagging that time I guess i can blame lag for everything ig
no problems in nol, just lag lol
So a bug happened to u and you are blaming the raid instead of the bug?
nah those wave to charge combo IS an issue
I think u also need to grasp the concept that sometimes u need to change ur build to be better for the content ur doing
see archer build, I've soloed orphion before
Before as in 2.1 or pre 2.1
Lightbender moment
Where? Also if u can solo the boss in 2.1 then like whar? It’s fine if u get fucked by lag, well unlucky, happens to everyone
That wave happens if u get hit head on by orphion?
Cause like… just move ig
Real
You misunderstand, it's not that
Since when did orphian have any undodgeable attacks?
I don’t think orphion has a wave attack
those goddamn blue ice things? that are perpendicular to the direction of the boss charge
Never ngl other than his main attack ig?
I think it might be the blue things on the floor that spread from where orphion is
Just jump lmao
it charges so goddamn fast that just jump may get me killed
Wtf they do like 1-2k damage to me on laby
like wth is the charge so damn quick
You have a lot of time to jump ive never had an issue with it
Wtf the charge is a fucking joke
Charge is like the easiest part of the boss
It’s faster the further u r from it tho
You hear it roar and just move away from it
look, it hits u, bounces you, then the bboss charges at u, that is the issue
Thats a very specific case ngl
Don’t get hit or use movement spell 
?? You know theres a indicator for when hes gonna charge just move away
Like way too specific
fuck escape that shit is so damn inconsistent
Bro escape is like the best one for it
Its rly consistent wdym
I use escape that shit makes it so easy
I love my kinematics spell 🩷
like sometimes it doesn't throw me bak and i die like bruhh
Also if ur the only one having problems here then uhhhh yeah probably not a problem
I just move away from the boss and just escape upwards to aboid the blue wave shit
U cant spam it midair
The only bad thing about this boss is the lag
If thats what u r doing…
The only times I have something similar is when there is lag ig
If your struggling with charge that might be the greatest skill issue
Again, not an issue with the raid/ class
it seems like to me it’s more of a you struggling with archer in nol problem rather than an issue with nol
I know what I'm doing bros, and I say that it needs to relax on on that kb of those blue waves, holy hell it's annoying
that's when my whole team died lol
Cool ig
“You don’t have enough mana to cast that spell” maybe that’s why u can’t use escape
It doesn’t mean that u r a “nol expert”
And u still didn’t do top dmg lol
Still I have enough to say that it's annoyinmg af
?????????? what?
I thought u said all ur teammates died instantly and u had to do the rest of the fight
before hole, yes
And I have enough to say that it’s not. Almost as if this is a subjective opinion rather than the objective one you seem to consider it
So how did u still not do the most dmg in ur party if everyone else died early lmao
who are you looking at????????
Anyways I am going to sleep, gn everyone
They did the most btw
dude are you sleep deprived?
bro just escape upwards
It highlights u if ur on the leaderboard no?
Yeah I'll do that next time
Unless it’s not their screenshot
Nope
bro take the L
Oh idk then maybe it’s wynntils
Wait it does on wynntils
I don't play on wyntils
Anyways. It’s prob a u issue
Yep
Try to play with another class and see ur results.
Good night :3
Gn
Lets lay tmr, lemme see how you play
play
Maybe, i just dc enough
I will prob do guild raids or play with friends rather than just do it in pfinder
I got nothing to prove to someone random on the internet
Ok yeah I am not doing that… I play to have fun
then all your previous points will have no backing
I don’t play in a toxic environment tyvm
Cool
my ego is not fragile enough for me to care
when you say it like Oh it's so easy and whatnot
Cause it fucking is. U just seem like a shitty person to play with
Personality wise
wtf happened here lol
you instigated this and now u wanna be angry i asked you to play with me, are you for real
Ask for him to play with me tmr, he does not want to
Nah I just wanna sleep and play a game for fun…
whyre you telling me to do things what
It’s not that hard to grasp
not you itay, I asked if itay can play with me tmr
If u want I got a screenshot of me carrying people through nol damage wise
i know but why do you want me to tell him that as if i have power over him
Not sure if I soloed this one tho
bruh let the guy sleep
My text may have been confusing, I was just responding to ur question
Not angry, just tired
Also I would rather save those 10-15 mins of the raid and do something either useful or fun
With u the raid party seems like it’s gonna be toxic af and I would rather avoid it
Not that hard to grasp
Anyways I bid you, adiou
Brother, you said skill issue in the first time I've ever talked to you, what are you on about toxic af? Projecting on me or smt?
What the hell in this
Asking itay to play with me rn