#Divzer in NoL

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fervent crow
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NOL has the issue of undodgeable attacks

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So u cannot skillfully dodge attacks like in tna

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Bad raid design basically

split crag
clear steeple
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its more of a glass cannot

fervent crow
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yeah it's glass, but if the attacks cannot be dodged then it dosen't matter as you'll be dead to do any damage

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which notg also has an issue btw

unique ether
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I know divzer is Glass

sullen bay
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guys i spent all my money on an epoch but i didnt do top dps in tcc, bad game design please fix

unique ether
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But damage is shit

fervent crow
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It is shit because attacka are undodgeable consistently

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like if it was made so that u can actully dodge attacks in raid, divzer would be a high risk high reward gameplay

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now instead of high risk high reward, it's confirm death and make your teammate think u are throwing

unique ether
true ledge
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9k ehp skull

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The current meta is not built for hyper glass playstyles. Raids are especially guilty of that

fervent crow
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You basically have to play LB to get consistent gameplay or spam pots

sullen bay
true ledge
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not rly, I do fine with trapper

fervent crow
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some of the raids are a complete circus show

fervent crow
true ledge
clear steeple
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archer is so fun to play, you can build glassy and deal less damage than mage or you can build tanky and deal less damage than mage

fervent crow
true ledge
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mana traps + arrow storm go brrr

true ledge
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ur dps will be dogshit if u r completly passive with trapper lmao

sullen bay
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Are these the guys who filled their bank up with godly stratospheres caesuras and emage boots before the update and are now coping bc etw is not meta

true ledge
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did people do that?

fervent crow
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I'm sorry but some of the raids rn are not in a good position and if you disagree then you are either biased or are in the top 1% of insanely good players

sullen bay
sullen bay
clear steeple
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its more of the fact that 99% of the time lb is better at everything unless ur doing a dps check (world events)

true ledge
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Some shit are not ok with raids that’s for sure (mini boss in the nol resources room needs a nerf or to give more than 1 crystal)

clear steeple
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orphion fight saltroll

true ledge
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And everything in tna is easy, they just make up for it by making every fucking mob a damage sponge

fervent crow
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You were the guy who said skill issue and then proceeded to complain about the issues the raid has, who are you impressing bro?

true ledge
clear steeple
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fr

sullen bay
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I think they don’t mean the raids are flawless, just better than before

true ledge
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Oh def better

true ledge
true ledge
fervent crow
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Then stop brushing off the issues other people are facing

true ledge
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I would prefer a short and challenging boss rather than a boring long one

clear steeple
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tna and tcc are a lot better but nol and notg are so laggy buggy and overscaled that in their current state theyre less fun, at least for me

fervent crow
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Like, holy hell you go into every thread to spam skill issue it's getting old

true ledge
fervent crow
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Like i said the raid design basically doesn't allow for glass

sullen bay
true ledge
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It’s not an issue. It’s them not matching into where they are

clear steeple
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glassy builds should be able to clear content though

true ledge
clear steeple
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content shouldn't be built for just a few playstyles (eroded speed)

fervent crow
true ledge
sullen bay
true ledge
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Honestly give it time. We are at a beginning of a new meta. 2.0 wasn’t that different when it started

clear steeple
true ledge
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2.0 meta on greg was funny ngl

clear steeple
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3 second 0 watched

true ledge
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I meant beginning 2.0

fervent crow
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look, all I'm saying is make it so that the attacks can be consistenly dodged if u are skilled enough, currently it takes more than skill to do so

sullen bay
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Tcc has more undodgable attacks ngl

true ledge
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Idk haven’t done it in a while lmao

clear steeple
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tcc actually has windups and isnt as buggy but u shouldnt be locked out of content for playing an archetype

true ledge
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Ik tcc (needs a nickname btw) telegraphs his attacks

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Altough for all/ most of orphions big attacks there are clear telegraphs

sullen bay
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Idk I still can’t tell if it’s about to hit left middle or right, all the swings kinda look the same until they land

clear steeple
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orphions are just a little buggy and the lag is horrible tbh

true ledge
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His reg attacks don’t, but like do not expect a few seconds of windup pre every attack

fervent crow
true ledge
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Yeah thats just stupid

clear steeple
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also crystalization is so confusing

true ledge
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Ig it’s like a lag issue

sullen bay
fervent crow
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and the waves the come when orphion charges? bounces u up so that u can get 1 shot by the boss, like this requires adjustment fr

clear steeple
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maybe if they get the fight polished and out of a beta state itll be survivable as a glass player

fervent crow
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the stun lock is insane in that raid

true ledge
fervent crow
true ledge
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But yeah that’s more of a pfinder issue

fervent crow
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running raids like I'm warring is a joke holy shit

true ledge
clear steeple
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if they made it simpler to understand maybe the pfinder flintstones would actually help 😭

clear steeple
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or a cue

true ledge
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Yeah there should be chat messages when someone is about to get crystallized

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And when they spawn

fervent crow
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like it's THAT hard?

true ledge
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Wdym needing a stack? As in for gear?

fervent crow
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as in playing with other competent friends

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playing in a stack

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have you heard of this saying before?

true ledge
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I mean either get lucky on pfinder and find some friends there. Or join a guild

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But yeah pfinder is another can of worms that is another issue lmao

true ledge
sullen bay
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Find some friends and get in a vc it’s really free with good comms

true ledge
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Or go into other wynn related disc servers and if u have a decent enough build other players will let u join them

sullen bay
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Or just find a competent duo and u can usually carry pfinder

true ledge
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It sucks that some pfinder players are so shit that we gotta avoid them like the plague but… it is what it is ig

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Also pfinder for notg and nol should rly match me people on my level. I dont want to carry lvl 80s in nol

fervent crow
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If i cannot complete the raid with casual pfinder players, then smt is wrong for real

unique ether
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Spell Damage Divzer in TNA

fervent crow
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like if you need ALL that setup to complete it is on the edge of being too hard

unique ether
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And Divzer spell damage in Nol

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That why is shit

true ledge
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Raids are supposed to be difficult. Just cause u can’t beat the game consistently with players who don’t know what they are doing, does not mean the game is too hard. It just means it’s not piss easy

sullen bay
unique ether
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Damage is problem becoz can't fast kill with glasscannon

fervent crow
true ledge
sullen bay
fervent crow
true ledge
sullen bay
true ledge
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Until they learn the mechanics of the raid…

fervent crow
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nol is not end game, that would be tcc and TNA

true ledge
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It takes a few tries to get

true ledge
sullen bay
fervent crow
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Yeah, but you access not at level 100 but at like level 80 or smt

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It's just scales to higher level players

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are you gonna call a level 10 world event endgame since it scales to you now...?

true ledge
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Nah since there is absolutely no reason to run it in the endgame

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The raids do have a reason…

true ledge
unkempt abyss
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thunder defence noob

fervent crow
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thunder defence? what

true ledge
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Oworphion has thunder def

unkempt abyss
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orphion has thunder defence

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meaning orphion takes less damage from thunder weapons and abilities with thunder conversion

fervent crow
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it's from a divzer unless orphion has as much def as a touroto it's still gonna deal good daamge

split crag
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divzer players when the glass cannon playstyle requires you to actually dodge attacks rather than being able to mindlessly dps the boss so fast it cant attack

true ledge
unkempt abyss
rich shuttle
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Bro please I spent too much money on my divzer

split crag
true ledge
fervent crow
unkempt abyss
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these noobs man…

split crag
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the dont play glass cannon in NOL

unkempt abyss
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played tna too much and dont know how to dodge a boss attack

fervent crow
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Send me some gameplay foodtage brother, lets see your supreme gameplay

true ledge
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Also yeah this thread is just people refusing to change with the meta lmao

split crag
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different builds have different times and places, maybe nol isnt the place for the glass cannon builds

unique ether
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Is that damage cap

unkempt abyss
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raids in general dont support glass cannon

unkempt abyss
torn dragon
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My face when people cant handle change: 🤣

unkempt abyss
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aka divzer dealing thunder and orphion taking significantly less thunder damage

true ledge
fervent crow
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killing glass mythics usage is saltroll

unkempt abyss
sullen bay
unique ether
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Yep that cap

true ledge
split crag
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that is not cap

sullen bay
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💀

unkempt abyss
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huh

fervent crow
true ledge
unkempt abyss
fervent crow
unkempt abyss
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mobile acrobat 😭

fervent crow
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new meta just droped

true ledge
unkempt abyss
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🙏 ty

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altho for the record i’d solo any raid boss no diff 😈

true ledge
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Long story short. New update = new meta -> new builds required.
That’s how it works with every game of this sort

unique ether
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Is reduc?

unkempt abyss
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sullen bay
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Yes

unique ether
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6k spell damage in TNA

torn dragon
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OP are you russian

true ledge
fervent crow
true ledge
unkempt abyss
fervent crow
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a mythic tho, is just asd

unkempt abyss
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you’ll have to get used to it. it’s always been like this

true ledge
unique ether
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2k spell damage with bark 16m hp

fervent crow
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az was op as fuck back then lol

true ledge
unique ether
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Base spell

unkempt abyss
fervent crow
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just shoot at dummy

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and see damage

true ledge
unique ether
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500k with dummi

unkempt abyss
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same lol
toxo

fervent crow
unkempt abyss
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so much uselessness 😇

torn dragon
true ledge
sullen bay
unkempt abyss
true ledge
fervent crow
split crag
unkempt abyss
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oh 💀

true ledge
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People don’t rly see it, but full tank is basically unplayable rn as well

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The meta rn requires more of a balance between the 2

unique ether
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Do 500k damage with 7k spell damage

unkempt abyss
torn dragon
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Luckily no one was playinh full tank pre 2.1

unkempt abyss
unique ether
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I can't do 500k damage with 2k damage

fervent crow
true ledge
unique ether
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No

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With dummy only

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Dummy no reduc

fervent crow
true ledge
true ledge
true ledge
fervent crow
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nah, with how much unavoidable daamage that raid does that's not happening anytime soon maybe a team comp with LB and a dps but LB will always be the most consisntent

true ledge
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Lb has been the most consistent for 2 years now, it’s nothing new

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That’s why it rose in popularity rn

fervent crow
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Maybe the meta will be 4 laby tapper archer who knows

true ledge
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Atm the meta is pretty easy to grasp

fervent crow
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but that sounds like a 1 shot fest so maybbe not

true ledge
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Don’t be a glass cannon or a tank with no dps… go in the middle

fervent crow
true ledge
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Kinda sucks rn but the meta needs time to balance

sullen bay
true ledge
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Or any raid

sullen bay
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If u can get through an entire raid without taking any damage there’s kinda a problem

true ledge
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If so the game will get too boring and easy too quickly

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There is a reason u get a few thousand hp and that heal pots are dirt cheap

fervent crow
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or better, it lags and orphion tp charges you and u just die

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that sweet sweet 1 tick ko

true ledge
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First of all, we are talking about the raid itself. Lag is a different story

true ledge
fervent crow
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I don't even know what the raid is supposed to be like because either alll of my raids were a lag fest or the raid itself is problematic

true ledge
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I never saw a wave that locked me in the air on archer

fervent crow
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when he charges

true ledge
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I am trying to understand what r u talking about

fervent crow
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the kb on that is too much

true ledge
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Maybe I am too sleepy rn to remember it but idk

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First of all if u get knocked into the air on archer u should have an escape spell u can use

fervent crow
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sometimes it doesn't work, buggy escape, just like in tcc where escape doesn't work sometimes

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it's just a 'theoretical' situation

true ledge
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So there is a bug… that’s also another issue that has nothing to do with the raid

fervent crow
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yeah calling it out isn't hurting anyone right??

true ledge
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Ur theoretical situation relies on stuff u related to the raid

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I am talking about the raid itself… not the bugs that it has

fervent crow
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like i said issues of nol need to be adjusted

sullen bay
true ledge
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I think I did like ~30 nol runs since 2.1 (not including beta) on warrior and archer. The only stunlock I had was the crystals

sullen bay
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Ur perfect solution is to not play raids any time soon until they fix the server lag

fervent crow
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no problems in nol, just lag lol

true ledge
fervent crow
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nah those wave to charge combo IS an issue

sullen bay
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I think u also need to grasp the concept that sometimes u need to change ur build to be better for the content ur doing

fervent crow
sullen bay
fervent crow
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all team died bbefore bblackhole btwe

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see screenshot

sullen bay
# fervent crow see screenshot

Where? Also if u can solo the boss in 2.1 then like whar? It’s fine if u get fucked by lag, well unlucky, happens to everyone

true ledge
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That wave happens if u get hit head on by orphion?

true ledge
sullen bay
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Real

fervent crow
versed scaffold
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Since when did orphian have any undodgeable attacks?

true ledge
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I don’t think orphion has a wave attack

fervent crow
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those goddamn blue ice things? that are perpendicular to the direction of the boss charge

true ledge
sullen bay
true ledge
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Ohhh

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Ik what u mean

fervent crow
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it charges so goddamn fast that just jump may get me killed

true ledge
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Wtf they do like 1-2k damage to me on laby

fervent crow
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like wth is the charge so damn quick

versed scaffold
true ledge
versed scaffold
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Charge is like the easiest part of the boss

true ledge
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It’s faster the further u r from it tho

versed scaffold
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You hear it roar and just move away from it

fervent crow
true ledge
sullen bay
versed scaffold
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?? You know theres a indicator for when hes gonna charge just move away

true ledge
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Like way too specific

fervent crow
versed scaffold
true ledge
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Its rly consistent wdym

versed scaffold
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I use escape that shit makes it so easy

true ledge
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I love my kinematics spell 🩷

fervent crow
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like sometimes it doesn't throw me bak and i die like bruhh

sullen bay
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Also if ur the only one having problems here then uhhhh yeah probably not a problem

versed scaffold
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I just move away from the boss and just escape upwards to aboid the blue wave shit

true ledge
versed scaffold
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The only bad thing about this boss is the lag

true ledge
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If thats what u r doing…

true ledge
versed scaffold
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If your struggling with charge that might be the greatest skill issue

true ledge
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Again, not an issue with the raid/ class

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it seems like to me it’s more of a you struggling with archer in nol problem rather than an issue with nol

fervent crow
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I know what I'm doing bros, and I say that it needs to relax on on that kb of those blue waves, holy hell it's annoying

true ledge
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20mins…

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This isnt the flex u think it is…

fervent crow
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that's when my whole team died lol

true ledge
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Cool ig

sullen bay
true ledge
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It doesn’t mean that u r a “nol expert”

sullen bay
fervent crow
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Still I have enough to say that it's annoyinmg af

fervent crow
sullen bay
fervent crow
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before hole, yes

true ledge
sullen bay
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So how did u still not do the most dmg in ur party if everyone else died early lmao

fervent crow
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who are you looking at????????

true ledge
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Anyways I am going to sleep, gn everyone

fervent crow
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dude are you sleep deprived?

sullen bay
fervent crow
sullen bay
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Unless it’s not their screenshot

true ledge
fervent crow
sullen bay
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Oh idk then maybe it’s wynntils

true ledge
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Wait it does on wynntils

fervent crow
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I don't play on wyntils

true ledge
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Anyways. It’s prob a u issue

sullen bay
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Yep

true ledge
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Try to play with another class and see ur results.
Good night :3

sullen bay
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Gn

fervent crow
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@true ledge you solo it before?

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got any screenshots

true ledge
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I did. I don’t care enough to take screenshots of it tho

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Anyways let me sleep

fervent crow
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play

true ledge
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Maybe, i just dc enough

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I will prob do guild raids or play with friends rather than just do it in pfinder

fervent crow
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hahaha what's this?

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I'll add you and I bbetter see ur ass carrying me

true ledge
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I got nothing to prove to someone random on the internet

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Ok yeah I am not doing that… I play to have fun

fervent crow
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then all your previous points will have no backing

true ledge
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I don’t play in a toxic environment tyvm

true ledge
fervent crow
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when you say it like Oh it's so easy and whatnot

true ledge
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Cause it fucking is. U just seem like a shitty person to play with

unkempt abyss
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wtf happened here lol

fervent crow
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you instigated this and now u wanna be angry i asked you to play with me, are you for real

fervent crow
true ledge
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Nah I just wanna sleep and play a game for fun…

unkempt abyss
true ledge
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It’s not that hard to grasp

fervent crow
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not you itay, I asked if itay can play with me tmr

true ledge
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If u want I got a screenshot of me carrying people through nol damage wise

unkempt abyss
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i know but why do you want me to tell him that as if i have power over him

true ledge
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Not sure if I soloed this one tho

sullen bay
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bruh let the guy sleep

true ledge
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Ty

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Anyways just gonna leave with this SS of me carrying randos damage wise

fervent crow
unkempt abyss
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oh

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ohhh

true ledge
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With u the raid party seems like it’s gonna be toxic af and I would rather avoid it

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Not that hard to grasp

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Anyways I bid you, adiou

fervent crow
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Brother, you said skill issue in the first time I've ever talked to you, what are you on about toxic af? Projecting on me or smt?

true ledge
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Mate I admitted to being wrong about that…

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U r ignoring that to continue arguing

unique ether
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What the hell in this

fervent crow
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Asking itay to play with me rn

true ledge
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Yeah shit kinda went downhill here

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U don’t seem like someone I want to play with… not that hard to grasp
I got nothing to prove to a random stranger online

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Good fucking night