#arachnophobia mode for wynncraft

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dapper saffron
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im playing wynncraft with the texture packs that are made for wynncraft and i just cant play the game due to the fact that as soon as i end up in a fight with a spider i panic and quit the game and i cant get myself to play with those spiders running around, my quick fix for the issue is playing with an outdated texture pack that broke the enemy models but its also kinda annoying to see a bunch of floating blocks attacking me

abstract dust
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Another one

brisk flax
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there was a similar post like this a while ago but they were a huge troll and very childish, if you're wondering why you got these responses

abstract dust
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There'll probably be an arachnophobia option at some point but I don't see it happening for a while, sorry

dapper saffron
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alright

safe eagle
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But you solved the issue yourself

brisk flax
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but yea this should be a thing

abstract dust
safe eagle
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Just play with the broken resourcepack until youre out of the nivla forest

safe eagle
abstract dust
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Are there more spiders after that

safe eagle
abstract dust
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Asking

dapper saffron
fallow geyser
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there are spiders all throughout the game

abstract dust
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Cuz you can't just react to seeing a spider with applying the pack, then turn it off when you're done

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If there are spiders basically anywhere it'll still cause someone with arachnophobia to panic unless they play with that pack on all the time

safe eagle
# abstract dust Asking

Few spider mobs in ToA and Qira, some spider caves in llevigar plains, olux swamp and light forest (but have spider web outside so its not a suprise). And Hero of Gavel quest.

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So they arent really "anywhere"

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Oh and (corrupted) infested pit guardian

abstract dust
gusty frigate
dapper saffron
safe eagle
dapper saffron
safe eagle
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How did you get into minecraft lol

dapper saffron
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its mostly the fact that the face is detailed (which the default minecraft spider isnt) that triggers me

safe eagle
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Dang

dapper saffron
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litterally making the face look stupid would help my phobia

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as in just like a smiley face

vital plover
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no balls

gusty frigate
dapper saffron
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if it would ever be made that is

ripe flicker
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Not gonna lie, arachnophobia is real but the fear is beatable. Everyone with serious arachnophobia should talk about it with a psych and get closer to spiders to beat their fear. What better way to do that, than in a game before the real world.

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Actaul contact with spiders is infact the main treatment against arachnophobia.

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So quit being a beta and go catch a spider. You can do that

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(except you live in australia, then by god please do not catch any random spider you find)

fallow geyser
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L take

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accessibility is important

gusty frigate
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yeah that seems like something someone with a champion rank would write

safe eagle
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Why did they make the spiders like that in the first place

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They obv dont care

fallow geyser
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maybe someone just wants to play their favorite game in peace instead of going through a panic attack

gusty frigate
safe eagle
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Ok but why is their favorite game a spider game

abstract dust
safe eagle
abstract dust
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No one asked for that 💀

ripe flicker
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? Yeah stop crying about it and change your life for the better.

safe eagle
abstract dust
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That's a nonsolution don't confuse it

ripe flicker
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Imagine living alone one day and you cant even be in the same room as a little spider. Imagine how hard that sucks. Change it

abstract dust
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There's so much wrong with what you're saying and it's scary how oblivious you are to it 💀

safe eagle
ripe flicker
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Its my honest opinion. Why would you live with a disability if you can change it?

dapper saffron
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id still prefer to just be able to sit down and enjoy a game instead of having to go through months of exposure therapy to just play a game

abstract dust
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You and him are not experts and don't even understand arachnophobia, yet you're pretending to be little scientists

ripe flicker
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Also that. Go to any doctor or psych and they will tell you the same. The fear is there but it is irrational. Train your brain to beat it

dapper saffron
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its not a weekend things to just beat

abstract dust
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And not everyone responds well to therapy either

ripe flicker
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True, thats prob hard work. But it should be an important step for yourself

safe eagle
abstract dust
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That's not something for you to be the judge of is it?

dapper saffron
safe eagle
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Everyone that is scared of something need to commit more than 1 week

dapper saffron
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but seeing those things being half the size of the character triggered me again

abstract dust
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Obv he's aware of therapy why are you trying to convince him as if you're his friend

dapper saffron
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i tried therapy, it went horrible

ripe flicker
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Yeah, talk with a psych for it. Trust me it will get better. There are mental practices you can do and train for it.

abstract dust
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A lot of people with strong arachnophobia try therapy, and obviously they're pretty much all totally aware of its existence and it's effects

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You're not helping by pointing it out and trying to make it seem like the greatest solution

abstract dust
dapper saffron
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there is a difference between paying a profesional to help me go through months and months of exposure therapy and just changing one file in a game to better suit litterally thousands of people

ripe flicker
abstract dust
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Telling people to seek therapy for their arachnophobia is not good advice, it's stating the obvious

gusty frigate
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"cringe kid you are" ah yes, edgelord behavior, my favorite in a thread trying to genuinely address a semi-common issue

safe eagle
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He is cringe tho

ripe flicker
abstract dust
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He just said he already tried it and it went poorly

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"Well try again with more therapists ez"

dapper saffron
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i started with somewhat of a good upperhand to deal with tiny spiders and it ended with me almost sobbing seeing bean sized ones

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i can tell you with ease that i dont want to try a therapist for a while at least again

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aswell ignoring the fact that getting this proffesional help is close to impossible

abstract dust
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Being like "seek therapy" skips so many steps and ignores so many issues it's embarrassing, you have no clue what's going on with their lives 💀

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I'm yapping this much because he's made this suggestion before to other ppl with arachnophobia btw

gusty frigate
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fantastic

abstract dust
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And it's helped just as much too ofc

ripe flicker
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? Ive not done that before even tho i would have because its common sense.

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You are just ignoring problems.

abstract dust
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It's not your place to tell someone to seek therapy for smth like this, especially when that's not what they asked for

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Phobias aren't like other types of problems with clear solutions

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You can seek therapy and do the work to get over it, and it may or may not work and might even cause more trauma than you started with

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It's not something you can recommend the way you're doing

rich cape
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i would accept the "seek therapy why are you scared of a cartoon blocky spider" argument if the IP key guardian wasnt this fucking horrifying like jeez i dont have arachnophobia and even i find this dude creepy (spoiler for the people with arachnophobia)

orchid rapids
rich cape
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like, seeing this thing from far away for the first time was genuinely something

gusty frigate
abstract dust
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Holy shit i haven't even seen that yet that's terrifying 💀

orchid rapids
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i love the new guardian gosh

gusty frigate
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yeah nivla woods is where your kids get kidnapped

orchid rapids
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so fucking cool

rich cape
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yeah the new guardian is awesome but i dont blame anyone for having arachnophobia looking at it

abstract dust
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It looks so sick but I can see why some w arachnophobia might just close their game 😭

rich cape
rich cape
brisk flax
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someone got flamed for suggesting phobia therapy on the other spider post

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are we in a time loop or something

rich cape
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again as i said i would agree with the "you need to get over this, man, its a fictional videogame" argument but some of the current spiders in the game are actually quite the horror game material

tame scaffold
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Its a comment made in ignorance so I sort of see why

ripe flicker
ripe flicker
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or is it ignorant to ignore the underlying problem?

abstract dust
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Bro thinks he's a saint 🙏

thin cypress
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didn't read the entire thread but basically to solve this issue

  • decrypt pack
  • pop all the spider models into blockbench
  • remove mandibles and give them goofy smiley faces
  • repackage pack
  • profit
safe eagle
rich cape
safe eagle
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Oh i accidently clicked it i guess

rich cape
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it shows like a spoiler to me, at least

safe eagle
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Now i made myself look like a jester! Crap

abstract dust
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Not like I checked tho so maybe that works

rich cape
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yeah didnt salted say that the models and the info regarding them is server-side or something like that

ripe flicker
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the server loads it. it still takes data from your minecraft version i believe. its just the server has to call your game what to do every frame of an animation

gusty frigate
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mob models are significantly different from blockbench/weapon models, literally every cube is a different item from the resource pack database

paper depot
# gusty frigate mob models are *significantly* different from blockbench/weapon models, literall...

This suggestion about 'arachnophobia support' would be such a low priority item on the list of TODO things for Wynncraft that it will probably never make it into the game. The game needs to make money, a change to the models, that as mentioned here will most likely cost more work then is worth. Because at the end of the day, accesibility settings for around ~1% or less for the community makes a whole total of 0$. And it will especially be at the bottom of the list due to the 4k players = 25k player server cost statement that Salted made.

I know that it affects individuals who suffer from Arachnophobia in an incredibly negative way, but the server devs most likely have bigger things to worry about at this current time and for in the future.

safe eagle
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OP will quit the game within 6 months anyways

abstract dust
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That's one of the problems tho

verbal briar
abstract dust
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Only maybe a couple dozen ppl at most can't rly play wynn with arachnophobia so it's still not a big issue

verbal briar
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same with colorblindness

abstract dust
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But handling colorblindness is easy and like no effort 💀

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Handling arachnophobia would take a ton of effort

safe eagle
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With no payoff

abstract dust
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Well like barely any payoff

verbal briar
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i think its a silly suggestion but i dont like how wynn is really doing less than the bare minimum on accessibility

abstract dust
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Wym

paper depot
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If Salted mentions server costs i don't even wanna know what else is going on

verbal briar
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meanwhile watched got the visual removed

paper depot
verbal briar
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it's good AND accessible game design

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accessible because players who have vision/hearing issues can still pick up on cues clearly

safe eagle
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It being accessible is just luck lol

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If deaf people didnt exist, they would STILL add those things

paper depot
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Yeah i don't see your point

paper depot
paper depot
verbal briar
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my point is that most content doesn't give multiple cues even though it's clear that they have the ability to add them

safe eagle
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Bro is so focused on trying to sound smart that he doesnt realize that hes not talking about the subject anymore

paper depot
verbal briar
safe eagle
verbal briar
paper depot
verbal briar
gusty frigate
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(to be clearer) notably a lot of mobs are being changed from their generic form to their mob model form that rekindled's system changes allows, so i imagine the modellers/model animator people are currently busy on that and not really available to make "friendly" versions for spiders

karmic raft
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because the pack shuffles around every now and then

gusty frigate
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yes this is extremely relevant and a very worthwhile comment to make

paper depot
raw patrol
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Xae and Mesy cringe moments :(
Yeah, I support an arachnophobia mode. Replace spiders with a completely silly version with all the colors switched up so it's like
A pink spider with a goofy face is attacking you

gusty frigate
safe eagle
raw patrol
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Did they update IPKG's model? I don't remember that being the new model.

gusty frigate
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thread-maker specifically said that the faces was the big issue for them specifically(but, uh, yeah, the spindly bits are generally quite bad too)

frozen panther
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Nah you lot can't be real. Its through the screen can't be getting scared of pixels

gusty frigate
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mods? turn this man's dna into soup

abstract dust
raw patrol
eternal seal
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Oh god it’s another one of these

gusty frigate
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yeah maybe just mute the thread and look the other way for sanity retention

safe eagle
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CT is never gonna do a thing for just 1 dude

abstract dust
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Yeah that's why it's not a perfect solution

safe eagle
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My goat

karmic raft
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Could you not

frozen panther
karmic raft
crisp robin
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wait arachnophobia is real?

raw patrol
raw patrol
safe eagle
raw patrol
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yeah see that's why i named you next to mesy

eternal seal
tribal sun
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Not this again bruh

night ore
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if someone can just get the pack into a file and delete the textures for the spiders, it’d work

brisk flax
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wish I could nickname people who arent on my friends list

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some nasty names I'd like to profile people by

safe eagle
brisk flax
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I'm afraid that is a secret

safe eagle
brisk flax
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biologically true

jovial jacinth
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Since the model files and texture names for the spider models are going to be auto-generated every update

junior wyvern
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^^

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texture changes arent feasible unless you can use a mod or smth to detect which textures need changing on the fly

ornate rampart
# gusty frigate yeah that seems like something someone with a champion rank would write

I don't think it's fair to create a ton of problems and dev time for "accessibility" when playing the game if it only affects like 0.1% of the player base when the poster has the option to get over their phobia in some way. Tbh I would even help by sending videos or telling them about cool spider facts like how jumping spiders have dreams like we do, but I don't think it's heartless to say "you should get over your fear instead of inconveniencing hundreds to thousands of other players."

Would it be fair to the rest of the player base to make the dev team spend 2 or 3+ months redoing textures and then figuring out a toggleable way to enable and disable the specific texture packs, when that time could be better spent on more important things like Fruma?

The key part here is the fact that the original poster has the means to do something about their phobia at their own discretion. Tomes were given symbols specifically for color blind people, as well as titles that correlate to their role because you have no control over being color blind. That is not the case with a fear of spiders

tribal sun
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Would you ask elden ring devs to add a dragonphobia mode lmao

abstract dust
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Yes🥺

brisk flax
karmic raft
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I mean i could try making an arachnophobia texture pack

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although that might break every other model in the process, not sure

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and it would require a mod to make the serverside texture pack further down in the packs list because manually downlaoded packs don't really work anymore

brisk flax
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you should give it a shot (make sure to not use any backups and dont test it first like like like)

ornate rampart
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It just feels like a waste of time when it affects a significantly small amount of people (those whose arachnophobia gets triggered by blocky spider shaped video game models) and takes a lot of effort

abstract dust
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It's not the blocky spiders it's the custom ones with custom animations

ornate rampart
abstract dust
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It wasn't a troll what

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They were just a jerk, but they were serious

karmic raft
ornate rampart
# karmic raft there have been like 4 arachnophobia threads

4, out of the i think 4.5k active players recently? That's unironically less than 0.1% of players.

Would it be a nice addition? Absolutely. But I think it's too much of a time investment from CT when the people who are struggling have the freedom of choice to do something about their phobia

night ore
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hey mr tfthief go to australia and get bit by a spider thaaaaanks

abstract dust
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Arachnophobia is a very embarrassing thing to admit you're affected by in a video game, so there's very likely many more people who can't play wynn cuz of it

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Not that many id still only guess a few dozen or so

ornate rampart
night ore
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after that you’ll probably be scared of spiders

ornate rampart
abstract dust
ornate rampart
night ore
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you weird for that

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but ok

ornate rampart
abstract dust
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Spider love

abstract dust
ornate rampart
ornate rampart
brisk flax
ornate rampart
brisk flax
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I wasn't referring to the pictures you sent

ornate rampart
brisk flax
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And no I do not live in australia or a mineshaft

brisk flax
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💀

ornate rampart
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You're not a toddler or over the age of 70 right?

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No I'm actually being serious

brisk flax
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I have a toddler for a sister

ornate rampart
brisk flax
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yeah and im scared for her

ornate rampart
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Definitely teach her not to play with spiders, but I meant like "nothing is going to happen to you"

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In which case you're still not scared "of them" you're scared for her

which is completely valid btw

brisk flax
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ok

ripe flicker
brisk flax
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I did not mean the spiders, and I did not mean to imply that I find it scary

ripe flicker
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My gf for example fears spiders. Tho she can be in a room with smaller ones. And she did not run away or get a panic attack when i showed her the spiders in wynn.
The reaction is different to anyone and for her example was way stonger before/when i met her. But as i stated earlier, training is everything.
You get used to stuff if you experience it. This is true for many many stuff. Spiders, bitter foods, darkness....

safe eagle
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Arachnophobia is a huge spectrum

silent pawn
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I seriously don’t get the point of these threads.

abstract dust
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The point is they want the game to be accessible for ppl like them, but the problem is just that it's too niche

silent pawn
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I mean as in all it does is turn into a circlejerk of two groups of people. One who just says “to get over it” and the other getting offended by it.

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While absolutely nothing gets done about the actual problem.

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And all of it could’ve been avoided if the OP just DM’d someone on the CT who actually makes the resource pack.

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It’s a maypole of controversy

abstract dust
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If ppl dm'd CT for their suggestions everytime that'd be terrible 💀

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The threads are to have discussion and see how the community feels

brisk flax
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The point of the thread was to tell devs that there should be arachnophobia free mode

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Other people argued on their own terms

silent pawn
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Where it’s a minor tweak, but only affects a small portion of players albeit severely.

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That’s why you shouldn’t involve the rest of the community for special cases like these because they don’t care or actively derail the thread and say dumb stuff like “get over it”

ripe flicker
abstract dust
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Yeah would be a very high tweak

ripe flicker
silent pawn
ripe flicker
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Takes time and is not easy, i understand that.

ripe flicker
silent pawn
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Also you can absolutely DM members of the CT about suggestions. Obviously don’t spam stupid stuff, but I highly doubt the OP would’ve even gotten muted if they reached out to the person who actually makes the resource pack and explained themselves.

ripe flicker
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But i think, changing the landscape (amazing job btw i love everything) is the fastest milestone of the project. What often falls behind is coding and implementing. Project management and creating systems is what usually takes up most of the time.

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Trust me on that, im doing stuff like that for a living.

brisk flax
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I think the "it takes way too much time for something that doesn't affect many people" is really silly, because most of the spiders JUST got new textures, along with probably thousands of mobs, some of which are seen by maybe 100 people a day. Which is probably the same amount of arachnophobes. Who might quit Wynn. Because of scary spiders.

ripe flicker
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It takes time because you dont want to change the really good models for everyone. That means you have to create a toggle mode for spiders.

As i said, how much time that is and how many people would quit over the new model is something you can only calculate if you have the statistics around it. Then you can calculate how much a single player is worth on average and if it is worth to implement or not.

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As i see it: for the server there are probably 1/500 players quitting because of that. So it really is a difficult question since there are way more points in wynn that get more people to quit and thus are a higher priority.

For any person with this issue i suggest talking about it and going to therapy. There is a proven treatment for it and if you manage to work on yourself you will have a better life after. Thats a good thing.

orchid rapids
night ore
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or just delete those textures

ripe flicker
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Im not sure but i think custom files do not work the way the used to work with the new version.

orchid rapids
orchid rapids
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So to find textures for those u just search up in texture w and the number

ripe flicker
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Yeah but i think a ct said those names change with every update

orchid rapids
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Yeah finding the spiders won't be easy

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Gotta sift through like 600 files in block bench

jovial jacinth
orchid rapids
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Yep

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But that's what always has happened

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Wynn names are very very not direct and u always gotta find the models just chaos

jovial jacinth
orchid rapids
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Ur the one complaining tho?

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I don't like it but don't mind it

jovial jacinth
orchid rapids
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question: does just ereasing spider facfes do the work? Cause identifying spider faces easy af but legs would be hell of a pain

junior wyvern
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so no erasing just the face is not a solution

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i think the only feasible way is to make a mod that looks for spider nametags and retextures the nearby display entities on the fly

orchid rapids
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the mobs are literally named: w(number)

junior wyvern
orchid rapids
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ohh

glass moss
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this is a pack that changes the faces of majority of spiders like in the pic
to use it you would need the server pack unlocker mod to keep this pack on top of the server one
i could make another where it gets rid of their textures entirely so you would have to rely on just the name tag to find them which might suck but it works
https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/2-1-arachnophobia-pack.318373/

fallow geyser
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unfathomably based individual right here 💪

orchid rapids
glass moss
safe eagle
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Why would you change the face only

glass moss
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thats what op requested theres another version that removes the legs as well

safe eagle
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Thats cool of you for doing that but theres more triggers than just the face

glass moss
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yeah there isnt much i can do besides removing the texture entirely or something but i feel like that would suck to attack or see and i cant really do anything about the model

safe eagle
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Lol removing the entire texture is better than nothing

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Nametags still exists and it's not that annoying

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(Some mobs have been perma invisible to me pre 2.1 because i play without seeing armor)

glass moss
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added it to the drive as an option

crisp robin
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i know spider is not something comfortable to look at due to their abnormal body structure but not something i would freak out in sight and not mention in a blocky low resolution game? i genuinly dont understand arachnophobia and probably never will so i cant say anything for sure.

But like many have talk about this, it really just affect the minority of the server and probably take a good chunk amount of time for dev to create more accessibility for such small portion of the community when they can focus on more important thing

if you cant deal with it (not try to be rude here). you can alway turn off the resourcepack and play with random floating block instead, if you still want to see other stuff then you have to make an arachnophobia resourcepack on your own. It not fair to add more unneccessary stuff onto the developer's todo list to increase their workload for like, 1% of the community

brisk flax