Multiple Annies but you get Rewards once

[dapper dirge]

🤔

[clear pasture]

yes please

[north charm]

people have proposed this over and over to resolve the issue

i don't know what CT thinks about it

would fix all the gameplay issues with the minor side effect that it's no longer a special event

you could have 7 annies at different times so in effect every timezone has its own annie day

[shell bough]

Something something alt account abuse

(According to Salted himself, who commented on the topic)

And as much as I really want this to be a reality he unfortunately makes sense

[boreal silo]

I mean alt accounts can probably be abused for like many different things

[opal hound]

not really, because people can already do this with daily & weekly chests, as well as the time trouble.

alts can also be used to abuse dungeon bombs as well

[zinc tapir]

its not like you cant open mutliple alts and join random pfinder parties to get an easy anni

[north charm]

yeah that's the thing

how does current annie even help against alts

and why are they this important? (if alts are a problem then check IP or make mythics untradable or something)

[midnight flicker]

Just don’t party randoms

[zinc tapir]

im ngl only like 5% of the playerbase would probably open alts and shit

and you can find all of them in #guild_community

[midnight flicker]

We should punish players who put more time in to game and punish players who bought ranks is really what I’m hearing

[zinc tapir]

nuh uh you can usually do anni twice with how these servers are desynnced and when you have champion so you can join those server easily

truely the most ptw upd ever

buy champion rank to do 2 annis per week

[midnight flicker]

How do u think they are suppose to keep the server running

[merry glade]

at this point they might as well remove all quests from the game since you can "alt account abuse" to get a bunch of emeralds by questing over and over

[north charm]

sounds like guilds might need an update to distract them

[livid mica]

this is exactly what we need, id say every 4h is ok for me as well lmao and once per week rewards

would also greatly reduce the lag

[north charm]

To be fair, doing all the quests requires a significant amount of time, effort/grinding, and probably bomb throwing if you want to do it quick, and the result is only 1stx (as far as I know), which can be acquired in much less time by raiding, lootrunning, or indeed by alt abusing Annie. Also, you can do that basically as much as you want without even buying a rank, save for waiting a month sometimes for a class to delete.

[hoary kestrel]

Damn bra why is guild community under fire

[livid mica]

1.5 stx~ and no bombs required

[north charm]

The thing is, if Annie's every 4h, there's a problem, which is that at that point Annie is effectively a regular world event.

[livid mica]

i dont see no problem with that at all, i find it goofy if its not

[hoary kestrel]

its not supposed to be a regular world event

[livid mica]

thats the idea of the staff, yea
i dont agree with that whatsoever

[hoary kestrel]

yeah well what you agree with isnt the direction the server is going towards unfortunately

[livid mica]

that makes a lot of sense considering we're talking about our opinions here about where it is supposed to go

[midnight flicker]

Closier why are u alting In Annie brah

I caught u red handed last Annie!

[livid mica]

alting annie is no problem

[hoary kestrel]

i have one alt beanwarrer and it was last seen 3 days ago (i was leaving the guild it was in)

[midnight flicker]

🧢

[hoary kestrel]

call cap whatever u want luis but i aint bout that life bra

[midnight flicker]

U a moderator life now

[hoary kestrel]

yea bro

[midnight flicker]

Let’s be honest they fucked alting after this patch due to aspects and fcking up war

[hoary kestrel]

why do u want annie to be weekly @livid mica

[midnight flicker]

If the intention is to fuck people with alts they have already done great dmg

[hoary kestrel]

honestly
its so much more effort to actually get a build on an alt now

im not particularly against it tbh though alt situation was getting ridiculously out of hand

[livid mica]

i dont want it to be weekly, i want the rewards to be weekly and the event a shit ton

[midnight flicker]

It’s going to be weekly soon no?

Timer increases after each one until it reaches a week

[hoary kestrel]

the event loses interest if its more frequent
regardless of rewards or not

[livid mica]

doesnt matter lmao

[midnight flicker]

Anyways we are going off topic ani kinda a bad world event other than the rewards

It’s just a shittier tcc boss

[hoary kestrel]

i forgot you constantly use this channel to ragebait people 😭 my bad og

[livid mica]

its not ragebaiting lil bro

[hoary kestrel]

my bad bro 🙏 do your thang

[midnight flicker]

Closier bean alting in ani

Can mods ban this guy!

[livid mica]

its so funny how anything that opposes your opinion is ragebait, nice cope

[hoary kestrel]

im coping ✊

[hoary kestrel]

erm what the sigma

[livid mica]

idk what else u think u are doing, but clearly my opinion does not align with yours and you immediately call ragebait lmao

[hoary kestrel]

yea u right

[dapper dirge]

How would an event giving half a stack of LE and a chance for one of the best items in the game, for the price of maximum 5 minutes of minimal effort, ever lose interest?

[livid mica]

either way, i really dont see the point in forcing annie to be a once per week special event turbo lagfest multiboxing async server chaining pile of trash

[midnight coral]

people will find ways to do it either way

[hoary kestrel]

interest is the wrong word, i meant like. entertainment or majestic or whatever u wanna call it

and im not talking about the reward im talking about the fight itself

[midnight flicker]

People will still do it but my point is it’s not really a fun content to do

[dapper dirge]

Ok yea but thats gonna happen anyways. No ones gonna think "wow what a cool boss" after doing it 5 times

[midnight flicker]

People only do it for rewards!!!

[livid mica]

i dont do it for the rewards at all

[midnight flicker]

Bro it ain’t a cool boss the boss doesn’t even move has like 3 atacks max

[dapper dirge]

People do most wynn content for rewards rather than the entertainment

[hoary kestrel]

well if youre only allowed to do it once a week and like 400 people show up with you its for sure going to be a hell of a lot cooler

[livid mica]

yea no cuz then its laggy af and the same thing regardless

[dapper dirge]

I hope for the love of god that you dont have playerghosts on

[midnight flicker]

That’s for the people who need the rewards

[livid mica]

ppl with ghosts on rn xdd

[hoary kestrel]

just buy more servers shrimple as that

[midnight flicker]

What if u don’t need the rewards!!!

[livid mica]

just make it not a once per week event

[hoary kestrel]

my pc can handle it anyways

[dapper dirge]

People will always do it if the rewards is as good as it is rn

[midnight flicker]

That’s the whole point

[hoary kestrel]

thats such a bad argument

[livid mica]

ur argument: it looks cool when its only once a week

[hoary kestrel]

most content isnt entertaining and the rewards are the only incentive to do most content in this game so lets continue that tradition

[hoary kestrel]

yuh huh

[midnight flicker]

Poor people need to stay poor!

[dapper dirge]

There are rare cases of active people playing for fun

[livid mica]

yea and thats the only good thing, and accepting all of those downsides for that is wild

[midnight flicker]

I would like them to put more attention to li and qira hive and give them the new mob animations that other mobs have receive

[hoary kestrel]

thats not something good? as a developer if you can fix that then you would be extremely stupid to just throw rewards instead and call it content

[hoary kestrel]

erm what downsides❓

[midnight flicker]

He wants to be able to spam ani like raids 😂

[livid mica]

lag
pissing people off cuz they can at most ATTEMPT it once a week, especially on kicks / world breaks / resets its really annoying
most people wont even be able to catch it once a week
people want to play it for fun, practice it, beat it with other builds than spamming lightbender

and have i mentioned that you cant even fight annie properly cuz its at most at 1 tps always in your case

[hoary kestrel]

cope + L + ratio 😹

[midnight flicker]

Lag is just a server side issue that we hope the developer will be able to fix

[livid mica]

u know ur wrong lil bro

[midnight flicker]

That’s another issue and not related to this topic

[livid mica]

it specifically lags when theres 40 million people doing annie

[hoary kestrel]

nah i just dont feel the need to respond bc ct have already made up their mind 😹

[midnight flicker]

Anni is so easy what is there to practice

[livid mica]

go do it on lv 30

or go do it with etw solo

or whatever else actual FUN CHALLENGE you could attempt xddd

[hoary kestrel]

umm ermm anie isnt easy when i give myself a handicap so lets make it way more frequent so i can practice 🤓

[livid mica]

right now all you do is pick lightbender find a human party and enjoy the 1tps free annie

[hoary kestrel]

ofc its not gonna be easy when you give yourself a handicap 😹

[livid mica]

no, to have fun
current annie is 0 skill 0 things happen all u do is 1 tps 10 man lightbender burst it down lmao

and u cant not do it because risking missingit is just not worth it cuz u only get 1 attempt per week and 1 crate per week due to that 1 attempt

[hoary kestrel]

so u think making annie more frequent will fix the lag?

[livid mica]

yes because people wont play it all the time and not all at once

[hoary kestrel]

i hope u realize the lag from annihilation isnt from the players its from the annie model

following ur case of doing it solo more annie models would lag the server even more

[livid mica]

there will be way less annie events at the same time played by people if they can choose when to do it

[midnight flicker]

It’s another one of those we should punish endgame players who play the game

[livid mica]

how is that punishing endgame players xdd

[hoary kestrel]

its not rly punishing them at all. weekly events are supposed to be weekly. content like annihilation which is just one boss being repeatable constantly accessible content is a doomed idea that will just end up with people getting bored after one week of constantly running annie

theres only so many challenges and handicaps u can do before it gets boring

[livid mica]

they wont run it for a whole week cuz they only get 1 crate per week

[midnight flicker]

That’s punishing endgame players making endgame player lose interest 😉

[hoary kestrel]

so then make it weekly?

[patent moat]

The groups of players deliberately lagging servers to desync Annie and do 3-4 in one cycle

[livid mica]

attempt = infinite
Loot = weekly

[patent moat]

🧌

[midnight flicker]

Seq being on 3 different lobbies with 30 players 💀💀

Lets e raid together

[patent moat]

We actually do 40 different players, can we honestly eraid?

[midnight flicker]

Damn what about the 41st player

[hoary kestrel]

loot != fun
attempt = fun

if attempt = infinite and fun != infinite then attempt != fun

then annie isnt fun anymore

[midnight flicker]

U guys just ditching that one guy?

Messed up raid keeper

[hoary kestrel]

annihilation isnt the entire endgame bro... 😹

[midnight flicker]

I guess so

[hoary kestrel]

yea but still most of the lag comes from the model itself

[livid mica]

no, loot = fun, attempt = fun for some people
lag / 1tps annies = not fun
forcing meta abusing cuz only 1 attempt = not fun
chaining events = not fun
catching the event cuz you dont have to be online at 4am on a wednesday = fun

[hoary kestrel]

a lot of worlds lag bc theres several parties loading annie models in the same world

[livid mica]

you dont get it, people would play it way less at once if there were more annies so therefore less lag

[patent moat]

We put the recruits in an arena on guild housing so we can decide who gets into the Annie party

[livid mica]

💀

[midnight flicker]

How is no loot fun if the event it self is bad

[hoary kestrel]

and the only solution to this issue isnt to fuck up the content and make it daily instead of weekly

how many challenges are you gonna do on annie nmw until it gets boring

[midnight flicker]

Can we be real that Annie is just a shittier tcc boss

[livid mica]

thatd be a great solution, this fixes all the problems

[patent moat]

Yep.

[hoary kestrel]

it fixes one problem and it ruins everything else 😹

[livid mica]

its not about me, its about everyone
even alone the problem of having to play at 4am on a wednesday just to catch the event is wild

[midnight flicker]

So great u are just making another tcc boss into the game

[livid mica]

it ruins nothing but ur "LETS COME TOGETHER TO LOG ONTO WYNN ONLY ONCE A WEEK"

[hoary kestrel]

i'm just glad im arguing knowing that im right 🥱

[midnight flicker]

Instead of a weekly event u should be doing

[hoary kestrel]

Nmw can i ask u something

[midnight flicker]

If u want to have fun and repeatable content why don’t u just run tcc its like the same thing as anie

[patent moat]

Can we be real TCC boss is just a war tower with extra steps? So by proxy Annie is just warring....

[livid mica]

the legit only thing ur "weekly event" bs does is to make it feel special for a couple of months to a small amount of the community

[midnight flicker]

Yes sir let’s e war

[midnight flicker]

Annie is not special with how frequent it is already

[hoary kestrel]

when did i say log on only once a week 😹 annie isnt the entire endgame nmw u fail to understand that

[midnight flicker]

People are only doing it for the rewards

[livid mica]

it will never be special to a lot of the players

[midnight flicker]

I don’t feel fomo after missing 3 Annie’s already

[livid mica]

thats what ur preposition sounded like

[patent moat]

Is Ur name krokofant? Only log on for Annie, play private smp the rest...

[hoary kestrel]

maybe to you but i haven't said anything about annihilation being the new endgame

[midnight flicker]

Let’s just make Annie a repeatable content to fix this issue

[hoary kestrel]

does the idea of weekly content just not make sense to you

its a common thing in many other games

[livid mica]

u shouldnt ever feel like "oh fuck i didnt play exactly during this hour and now i missed something nice"

[hoary kestrel]

what if. i told you. ct have already said theyre planning to include all timezones

[patent moat]

What if we made Annie a glorified boss alter that you can do once a week whenever so people don't get fucked over by timezones?

[midnight flicker]

What if we just made warring a Annie killing competition

[livid mica]

thats a different approach to this issue and id be all for it

doesnt fix the lag kicks etc. but that alone is a lot better already

[midnight flicker]

Annie should give sr upon completion

[patent moat]

Like have a large entry fee that the group pays, and after defeating the boss you are locked out doing more Annie fights till the next week ticks over

[midnight flicker]

Pfinder type stuff?

[livid mica]

if u dont defeat it for example because you get kicked while annie has 1m hp, do you get to enter again?

[patent moat]

I mean you could choose your group before hand and you all rock up, summon the boss

[midnight flicker]

That fucks time zone tho

[patent moat]

Tough shit ig

[midnight flicker]

That fucks me because my guild has 3 player avg on Asia time

[livid mica]

happened 3 times to me, not exactly 1m but its wild

[midnight flicker]

But it’s not a bad idea

But I just think Annie should be weekly and if it’s not weekly it fucks the event up

[hoary kestrel]

nmw lag should not be a deciding factor on how to approach content 🙀

its only been a few days since release ofc its gonna be laggy

[midnight flicker]

Lag is a complete different problem that we hope the developer will fix very soon Cope

[patent moat]

Ok then they either party with other Asia players or people stay up or they stay up? The way it is currently 1 week it'll just completely fuck over Asia players regardless, being able to choose when you do the boss during the week and preplan with your group gives a lot of flexibility

[hoary kestrel]

yeah its a server side issue its not a content issue those are 2 different things

[patent moat]

It would also reduce lag because the Annie's wouldn't all happen at once...

Yeah?

[midnight flicker]

That’s a good solution ngl

But I don’t think they will implement it

[patent moat]

Too much Dev time or the ability to be abused by alts idk

[livid mica]

yea exactly thats a great idea, xept further i want to be able to play it until its actually defeated

[midnight flicker]

It also fixed the desync worlds

[patent moat]

Yep it would fix that

[livid mica]

yes chaining is also not a thing then

[midnight flicker]

But boss altar makes it so lame

But it’s a nice fix

[livid mica]

its already piss lame

[patent moat]

Well it doesn't have to be a boss alter, they could make a summoning ritual or something which requires a fair few items your party has to go gather beforehand

[livid mica]

u can still make it the same as it is rn anyway besides u spawn it urself

[midnight flicker]

Items gather change every week

[patent moat]

Real

[midnight flicker]

That’d be kinda cool

[patent moat]

I love fetch quests!!!

[midnight flicker]

I hate them

[patent moat]

(I hate them)

[midnight flicker]

Hunters calling !!!!

[patent moat]

But definitely it could be a suggestion if I could bother writing

[livid mica]

ur not fetching an item there tho

[midnight flicker]

I’m going through my unorganized bank

go for and then bring back (someone or something) for someone

[patent moat]

Like the only flaw I see with my idea is alts could abuse it but it would be much less of an issue than desync is currently

[livid mica]

alts can always abuse it

[patent moat]

Keep in mind the alt accounts would also have to beat the boss

[livid mica]

unlike right now

[patent moat]

Right now they just take up world slots and prevent people from actually fighting the boss

But Wynn doesn't really care cos it's free playercount

I guess I'll write a forums suggestion later

[livid mica]

dont forget to include the "can reattempt whe ndoing challenges or unlucky irl circumstances instead of having to wait 7d" clause

[patent moat]

I would suggest having it reset at the beginning of the week

Same time as guild objectives

[midnight flicker]

yea that makes sense

[livid mica]

yep

[patent moat]

So at most you'll be waiting a few days, if unlucky a week

[livid mica]

doing 2 b2b on sundays 🔥

[livid mica]

usually thatd be a week of waiting due to trying anything but meta or getting super unlucky by being kicked, i dont see how saving players that unnecessary waiting time is necessary

[patent moat]

I mean you shouldn't be guaranteed to win it, if you want to try offmeta that's at your own risk and acknowledging that your party may fail

[livid mica]

nah u are guaranteed to win it, except u cant test anything out or will lose for it not being your own fault (power outage)

[patent moat]

It's supposed to be a difficult boss which you plan to beat in advance, you've got up to a week to prepare yourselves, choose the best time for your party. It's an ongoing issue with MMO's, there's always that 1 guy who gets dc'd in the middle of the WoW raid...

It'll never be perfect but being able to choose your time is better than funny random time on X day which people may be working

[livid mica]

i dont see how punishing anything but meta and bad luck with irl circumstances helps anyone ngl

[patent moat]

Meta = Most Effective Tactic.
You'll always have a higher risk of losing if you want to experiment and stray from the well trodden path, but you also have the chance of finding something better. I know Wynncraft is supposed to be an 'easy' MMO and I do encourage experimenting but this is supposed to be a 1 time weekly boss fullstop, you can experiment before and try it on the boss, running the risk of dying. But that's also why you have a party. It's a team activity

It sucks to punish people for irl circumstances, power outage or internet outage but I think allowing Annie to be repeatable opens it up to abuse

[livid mica]

i understand what ur saying, but the boss isnt difficult at all whatsoever
all ur doing with forcing 1 attempt per week is stopping people from doing anything but meta abusing
once u get to reattempt this whole issue is fixed
and on top of that ud fix unlucky irl circumstances

[patent moat]

Reattempt with lowered rewards?

[livid mica]

fine with that

[patent moat]

I'd love for them to increase Annie scaling and make it more difficult

[livid mica]

with normal tps harder annie would be really fun

[patent moat]

Defeating Annie should feel like a challenge and an accomplishment imo and right now it's, melt in 1-2 minutes tops, ignore healers and kill the sun then world hop to as many worlds as possible to maxout possible rewards

[livid mica]

yep

[patent moat]

It should ideally be something that happens once a week, is actually difficult and requires coordination

With the possibility to perhaps retry with a lowered reward

[livid mica]

that sounds exactly like what we need

[patent moat]

I'll get to writing that forums post then

[viscid phoenix]

maybe annie could give untradeable rewards

so no alt account abuse

[clear pasture]

What a jackass approach to arguments, first time seeing brainrot like this on here

[hoary kestrel]

i'm not gonna act entirely serious when i know i'm being baited punscake

i've said all i need to say before that point anyways, think whatever you want

[viscid phoenix]

💀\

[glossy furnace]

@onyx peak btw im 99% sure that someone deleted my initial message here but I just wanted to check with a moderator if that actually happened

[onyx peak]

Looks like you didn't use use an apostrophe in "who're" and it was automatically deleted for that

[glossy furnace]

wouldnt it message me for that?

[onyx peak]

No

[glossy furnace]

ok sry for the misunderstanding then

[onyx peak]

I'll repost the original message with it fixed

OG message from @glossy furnace

Many people have suggested this already and I htink it would be great compared to the current system. Let me just list a few reasons:

• players of all timezones can play annie

  • also, the way it currently works encourages people to like skip sleep, school or whatever if it falls within that time frame which will happen whether you want it or not

• will spread out players so servers dont die as hard

• prevents abuse by people lagging one world so they can do 2 annies per wave

now the one reason ive seen being brought up against this was

• Players with Alt accounts can abuse this!!

while, yes, that is true, players with alts can already bring like 6 alts into a normal annie fight and kill it iwth just 4 people (3 or 2 prob work too just tighter)

• this would somewhat get around that as unless you ahve an ininite amount of alts you can only either do this or normally fight with your alts
• the population of players who're gonna do this is really small
• by making it so you cant get 2 annies per wave anymore youre balancing it out somewhat

[glossy furnace]

🙏