Lootrun Reward Chest Expiring after 2 hours is Bad Design

[waxen ferry]

To Preface
I'm not saying lootrun pulls should "stack" from lootrun to lootrun. I'm not saying lootrun pulls should roll over into next weeks chest, etc. I'm arguing that the 2 hour time limit placed on opening a chest is bad design. I also know this is a niche problem but I find it to be a problem nonetheless.

Why is this a problem?
Players who spend time lootrunning shouldn't have their efforts deleted because they don't open the chest right away and pulls expiring after 2 hours is unfair to the player who earns their pulls. Just because a person doesn't open their pulls instantly doesn't mean they should be punished for not opening it within that 2 hour window.
I know that the simple "solution" to my problem is to just open the chest after you finish your lootrun. Sure, that's a "solution", but that ignores the unfriendly player design which is that your lootrun pulls can expire. Additionally, as far as I'm aware the player is given no warning their pulls will expire.

What do I propose to fix my "problem"?
Simply make it so lootrun pulls only "expire" when a player starts a new lootrun, or when the weekly chest expires. In that way, they can't stack an absurd amount of pulls into the chest (ergo sacrificing without the sacrifice), but also are able to reap the rewards of the progress they've made.
Additionally, players are allowed to infinitely continue a lootrun on a class, so long as they are not logged in, are under 100 challenges completed, and the timer does not expire for that lootrun.

[novel zenith]

👍

[calm cradle]

Oh its 2 hours now? Used to be 10 mins or something

On topic: disconnect during chest opening is handled poorly (not handled at all)

[elfin mirage]

yeah

makes sense that it should only reset upon new chest or new lootrun

i also propose that if you

1. have pull sacrifice(s)
2. have unopened chest
3. start lootrun
   it should autosacrifice

with additional condition that if you start lootrun with unopened chest the game warns you properly like
'hey'
'deal wit that'

[limpid notch]

at the most just add a note on finishing text that says pulls expire once lr complete

if u want to keep them for next pool just dont complete lr and sit on 99/100

this should come with the downside of locking that class until you want to pull because im sure devs dont want to make it easier for you to save a god run and pull on a good pool. its still possible, but there should be drawbacks

[sly kindle]

Having a notice of rewards expiring and auto-sacrificing if able would be sufficient

[upper stump]

wait there was hidden timer on reward chest?
thats why my best run chest got wiped 💀

[novel zenith]

yep, best part its never told to the player and it was just a few minutes at first

now its 2h, but I woulnt mind a bigger timer

[grim plank]

Me when I abuse alt + f4 until I get what I want

(It needs proper dev time which we don't have)

[uneven obsidian]

I'll only agree to keep this if the Asia proxy exists

I need a stable connection to the game before I claim my end pull rewards, because if I get disconnected mid pulling, I'll lose my rewards

[grave ether]

How does that have to do with anything in this post

[uneven obsidian]

Mb for not adding more details. I had to wait for a few hours just to pull the rewards without any issues, hence why it's upsetting that you could lose your end pull rewards for not claiming them straight away before the 2 hours expiration

I lost five end pull rewards already over this additional issue

[novel zenith]

any feature added to the game can add bugs/exploits, this isn't a good argument against this feedback.

[grim plank]

I'm ngl I'd rather the occasional player crash than the further collapse of the mythic market with everyone alt+f4ing until they get a shiny of their choice

Maybe a proper dev solution can happen at some point idk

[novel zenith]

You clearly didn't read my post, I'm not saying this feature should be added in a way to allow exploits, I'm saying that every single thing added to the game can be a way to bugs/exploits the GM's job is making sure that doesn't happen or its fixed quickly if it does. Not adding something because a bug might happen is irrational.

also, too late for that, mythics market is alr collapsed, and guess what that doesn't matter, grinding for a good one is still a thing since rolling items is RNG hell

[grim plank]

Surely something already being a bit of an issue is the perfect reason for us to make it worse than before

:)

[grave ether]

Ah now i see, ty

[calm cradle]

I thought u were joking when you said that, there is no reason to assume the implementation would start rolling rewards from the beginning instead of resuming where you left off

[grave ether]

The fix would be to just fix the disconnect bug

I assume you talk about the bug where you disconnect as fast as you open the chest

[novel zenith]

dude is assuming the developers wouldn't be capable of doing a feature without a huge exploit

[calm cradle]

Join dude

[novel zenith]

nah, Im on aeq

[calm cradle]

are you a fool?

[novel zenith]

nope

[calm cradle]

😦

[elfin mirage]

1. Generate end pull rewards when you complete a lootrun.
2. Save rerolled rewards when they're rerolled, so if you log out and back in, the reward chest is identical to how it was left.
   Can't imagine any way to abuse this with alt+f4.

[earnest island]

Crazy counter argument

[unborn shale]

this is like cutting off your the tip of pinky toe so that you don't get a 0.01% chance of an infected pinky toe 😭