Corkus Lootrunning.

[silent flare]

I'm sorry if a lot of this sounds like a rant. I'm exhausted from lootrunning and with this pool being by far the best this week, I just had to revisit corkus. After running molten for so long, I've realized how much worse everything else feels. Don't get me wrong, every camp has its problems, but this one has the most. From the absurdly large playing area, to the incredibly annoying objectives. Here are some of those objectives that I personally dislike, and possible ways to improve them.

Corkus Quarry - While I don't usually take offense to harder objectives, this is an exception. The boss at the end has a spell that deals true damage (it deals a specific percentage of your health as damage and ignores defense and agility), and a LOT of it (about 40% max hp), and the boss uses it quite often. This leads to this objective scaling horribly over time. I'd personally like if the true damage was lowered (or converted to normal damage but that would be quite an extreme change). The attack itself could also be changed but that would take dev time.
Pirate Lattice - Constantly falling down pits is not fun. Simple as that. Also the 2nd chest is just weird. It needed 2 enemy kills, and the 2nd enemy i needed to kill was way farther away from the chest. Drastic changes would be needed to make the cave lootrun friendly, so I'd just remove it from the objective pool.
Builder-Bot Central - More specifically the parkour section to the 2nd chest. The jumps are short, the platforms have stairs and slabs that eat your jumps, the teleport floor is very high, and the ornithopters are constantly trying to knock you off with multi-hit. This one probably can't be fixed without dev time but I'd appreciate seeing something done.

Every other objective is at least fine, and many are pretty good (I like Feral Avos the most). There are a few that might be overtuned in difficulty (Sanitizing Robots, Shackles of the Past) but I think objectives with varying difficulty are better than perfectly balanced objectives. Oh and about the large playing area, there aren't any solid solutions to that either. Maybe some fast travel across the island could be added? It would take a lot of dev time but it could be worth it.

[nimble epoch]

The cave right next to Pirate Lattice that has the annoying parkour if you have high walkspeed (almost guaranteed in any god lootrun) is also annoying

Even when using Warrior cork sucks

I’m on Hero Bashscream Warrior, like the meta build for LRing and Cork still sucks

[gray vessel]

I don't have many problems with Laser Drill other than its janky telegraph. There's a noticeable delay between the sound effect of the laser firing and the tracking explosion (which you actually can dodge with good timing depending on movement spell). I also usually kill them before they even get a chance to use it

Builder-bot parkour is easy because you can run along the roof. Pirate Lattice is still a meme though but not as bad as it used to be.

[devout socket]

fails to even mention the warehouse...

[nimble epoch]

Warehouse sucks

But it’s easy once you learn it, it just sucks to learn

[devout socket]

warehouse makes me want to slowly melt into a pile of goo

[nimble epoch]

Like don’t get me wrong I still don’t like it and a maze-like cave being ran multiple times in an LR makes no sense

Mazes lose basically any interest factor when you solve the puzzle

[gray vessel]

they should add geodesic to the pool it'd be so funny

[silent flare]

warehouse is long but it's not particularly annoying
parkour kinda sucks sometimes and the sentries are a little overtuned but not to a concerning degree like corkus quarry

[elfin citrus]

stupid game just made me run across corkus 7 TIMES IN A ROW WHAT THE HELL

my biggest annoyance is that corkus isn't very ult sac friendly due to long travel time and then long caves (warehouse, animation totem)

[hazy terrace]

What is the most frustrating is that that out of the rewards chests you don’t get maxed health potions. In all the others, the chests that spawn after completing a challenge have 4500 hp pots, but not with corkus

[elfin citrus]

you need potions?
if you need potions in a lr then that run is dead

[nimble epoch]

This is false

[devout socket]

what if we added fast travel to corkus like se

[elfin citrus]

*i should specify if you need potions past like challenge 20 the run is as good as dead

[hazy terrace]

I run greed, sometimes I get unlucky with getting ems, and I need to use 1 charge of my hp pots, and I hate not have my potions full

[nimble epoch]

Also false, I would know

0hpr on my build lol

Only time in an LR I didn’t use pots was with equi bs

[elfin citrus]

i find 30 pots is more than enough to last 100 challenges

[nimble epoch]

You probably have other sources of healing, some challenges can eat 15 of your pots easily if you get unlucky

[elfin citrus]

i'd say chugging pots is a pretty good sign that the run isn't going very well

[nimble epoch]

Not really no

[hazy terrace]

Yes, but not having the full 30 at all times makes me upset, I can’t stand seeing 29/30

[nimble epoch]

I chug pots in most Lrs and do fine, it’s just a different way of healing

[elfin citrus]

........

[nimble epoch]

That’s just a personal problem

[hazy terrace]

It is, but it is weird that every other lootrun location gives you 4500 hp health potion

[nimble epoch]

Every other LR location ranges to the 100 level range

[elfin citrus]

i mean certain caves do still give level 100 pots

[nimble epoch]

Cork is 80-95

[hazy terrace]

I’m specifically talking about the flying chests and the end of challenge chests

[nimble epoch]

Because Cork is 80-95

[elfin citrus]

animation totem gave me level 100 pots

[nimble epoch]

Obviously some caves break the rule but generally it’s because Cork is 80-95 so it gives 80-95 loot

[hazy terrace]

Not the cave chests, the chests that spawn after you finish the challenge

[nimble epoch]

Because the loot is for 80-95

[elfin citrus]

ohhh

[nimble epoch]

Even the mythics are for 80-95

[hazy terrace]

It is just corkus is more challenging than rodo or sky, and having the better pots would be nice

[nimble epoch]

How is it more challenging

[elfin citrus]

corkus is the easiest in terms of mobs...

[nimble epoch]

Yea it scales slower than the rest

[elfin citrus]

not to mention the mobs just have weaker stats
except animation totem

[nimble epoch]

Because most of the mobs are around level 80-85

[hazy terrace]

Maybe I just have negative thunder defense, I’ll have to check my build

[elfin citrus]

what's your build anyway

[hazy terrace]

Weathered acrobat

[nimble epoch]

The only reason I find cork more annoying than other camps is the sheer amount of space you have to run across

And the actual caves sucking like half the time

[elfin citrus]

cough cough pirate lattice cough

[elfin citrus]

paste hppeng/wynnbuilder link

[hazy terrace]

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/builder?v=6#8_0uO0KF0S30Qt0UG0W70tz0UB0Q+160e-Y-Y221g000000z0z0+0+0+0+0-
WynnBuilder build:

Ornithopter
Twilight-Gilded Cloak
Mirror's Edge
Revenant
Pirate Queen's Ring of Rubies
Old Keeper's Ring
Double Vision
Renda Langit
Weathered []

[elfin citrus]

ornithopter??
no propeller hat?
pirate queen ring? just use crafted stealing ring
how are you using greed sustain
you are flying
TWILIGHT GILDED????

[hazy terrace]

I hate repairing items

[elfin citrus]

1000 durability 20+ stealing
lasts 5 100 challenge runs

[nimble epoch]

-hpr too goddamn

[hazy terrace]

Sry wrong hive chest plate

[elfin citrus]

ong this build is bad
you have 11k ehp no agility
so a single strong hit that you don't dodge will melt you

[nimble epoch]

And with agi it’s 33k

That’s still not a lot

[elfin citrus]

yeah

[elfin citrus]

which one did you mean to use...

anyway i think we might've found the problem

[nimble epoch]

How tf do you do any LR with this build

[hazy terrace]

Elysium-Engraved Aegis

[elfin citrus]

you have 0 boost to spell damage.
elysium-engraved also gives zero spell damage

yeah that's why you're struggling
like i can go challenge 30+ with 0 boons on hero bashscream 🤷

[nimble epoch]

3% stealing on a stealing build

[sweet smelt]

corkus lr in general is kinda fucked with caves cause the caves were redone in 2.0 to offer a more challenging but rewarding lootrun spot, but now that lr camps exist the whole concept feels kinda incompatible

[elfin citrus]

well thats just cause pirate queen ring is crap

[elfin citrus]

idk i'm fine-ish with the caves (except the animation totem)
i just dont wanna run across 1k+ blocks)

[hazy terrace]

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/builder?v=6#8_0uO0Jm0S30Qt0W70UF0tz0UB0Q+16-Y-Y0e221g000000z0z0+0+0+0+0-
WynnBuilder build:

Ornithopter
Elysium-Engraved Aegis
Mirror's Edge
Revenant
Old Keeper's Ring
Ring of Rubies
Double Vision
Renda Langit
Weathered []

[nimble epoch]

Pirate Lattice and Animation Totem are my main issues as both are annoying on repeat with or without boons

[hazy terrace]

There fixed

[nimble epoch]

Like Quarry (I think, the one next to Lattice) sucks but only when you have a bajillion walkspeed

[hazy terrace]

I pasted the wrong ring, I’m sorry 😦 it is still only 10% but 😦

[elfin citrus]

just use a crafted with 1000 durability
anyway the ring is not the problem, the problem is the poor ehp and damage

[nimble epoch]

It’s 1 ring that lasts forever scrap will be a non-issue if you make more than an LE every 5 hours

[hazy terrace]

The build worked great before the Wynncraft 2.0 update, as I’ve been too lazy to change it because most of what I do in the game is hop around detlas

[nimble epoch]

I don’t see how this would’ve been good even in 1.20

[hazy terrace]

And le is not the problem, I’m lazy

[elfin citrus]

with 1k durability you'll need to repair only once for every 3 100 challenge runs

[hazy terrace]

I care more about sprint region and duration than damage

[elfin citrus]

sprint? why lmao
anyway
here's a build
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder?v=6#8_0y706O0PW0nB0K20nu0vJ0y40Q+-z1B1407221g1000FU1000FU1000FU1000FU1007lU0z0z0+0+0+0+0-ldnlvjp3
WynnBuilder build:

Propeller Hat
Booster Plate
Leictreach Makani
Steamjet Walkers
Moon Pool Circlet
Suppression
Breakthrough
Daredevil
Weathered [a6a6a6]

use that. you have mobility due to lunge and windsurf major ids

no greed sustain since acro can't pick up the emeralds anyway

[nimble epoch]

Ehp is worse but also does acro get hit ever?

[hazy terrace]

Because having a 4 block jump boost and being able to run effectively infinitely is fun

[nimble epoch]

Also it’s Acro why do you need sprint regen

Acro’s whole thing is flying around the map

[elfin citrus]

with this build everything should die before you can
and besides you shouldn't be getting hit

[elfin citrus]

you should basically never touch the ground as acro.

[hazy terrace]

Also I have really terrible internet, so I like having high agility and defense, so I don’t die when I lag, I also don’t need infinite flight because of lag

[nimble epoch]

Then don’t play acro

[elfin citrus]

.-. THEN DONT PLAY ACRO

[nimble epoch]

Play like Warrior or Mage lol

[hollow olive]

Keep playing acro it’s funny

[elfin citrus]

also your build has literally 0 defense soo

[nimble epoch]

And low Agi as well lol

[hazy terrace]

Bruh, I play it because it is fun, what don’t you understand, I don’t care about dps

[elfin citrus]

and literally 0 spell damage

[nimble epoch]

The reason we’re talking about it is because your build is why Cork is difficult

[elfin citrus]

sure, but if you have 0 dps the mobs are gonna outscale you real quick

[nimble epoch]

Which is a complaint you had

[elfin citrus]

i probably have a video of me oneshotting stuff with a single bash hit to prove corkus is easy

[nimble epoch]

The basic hero build everyone uses can one-shot most things basically unboosted for a while because cork mobs have like 8k hp total

[elfin citrus]

yeah

[hazy terrace]

No, my complaint is that I die too fast to corkian mobs, I never complain about my dps :.(

[hollow olive]

Would recommend you play Nulli Resurgence instead

[elfin citrus]

that's a result of your dps.
you would quite literally do better in morph-sawtooth

[nimble epoch]

And low ehp

Mostly dps because acro

[hazy terrace]

I’m sorry that the things I care about in the game are different than the things you care about, I’m here to maximize my fun, I do not care about the same things as you

[hollow olive]

As a person whose played Weathered and Nulli

Nulli is more fun than Weathered so you should maximize ur fun by using Nulli

[hazy terrace]

And dps and ehp aren’t problems for me on either rodo or sky, it is literally just corkus

[hollow olive]

()

[nimble epoch]

The reason we’re talking about this is because you complained about difficulty

We’re trying to help

[candid wren]

Quarry has a miniboss, which is in multiple locations in the cave, and will potentially be changed

[hazy terrace]

No, you were wondering why I wanted there to be 4500 heath pots in the bonus chests, and y’all just ran off with it, and I’m too dumb to just set down my phone

[nimble epoch]

I wasn’t, I supported the idea. You said Cork was more difficult than Rodo and Sky

[elfin citrus]

sigh
okay so you said basically that you need hp pots because corkus is hard
we're saying corkus is not hard at all, it's just your build sucks

[hollow olive]

Pots from chests in lootruns scaling to player level would be nice except for the fact that I hate potions and I hate lootruns

[nimble epoch]

Ong fr

Make Archer meta in LRs and I would play them ong ong

[silent flare]

it's quite a strong miniboss that's for sure

[candid wren]

yeah, i want to change it

[hazy terrace]

No, I need hp pots being ocd, I never run out of pots, and it isn’t hard to do corkus, I just find it slightly harder than sky or rodo, and those two are easy

[candid wren]

make the damage dodgeable. increase attack rate, make it not an explosion, remove the true damage element

[hollow olive]

They should make it so that there’s a command that lets you not stack pots

So I can blacksmith the potions I get (you can’t blacksmith stacked potions)

[nimble epoch]

We were trying to make it to where the EASIEST CAMP is actually the easiest camp for you

[hollow olive]

(Alternatively just let us sell stacked potions to the blacksmith)

[nimble epoch]

While we’re at it let us combine 2 separate stacks of pots

I have like 3 separate stacks of 15 pots that are ripe for combining but wynn says no

[sacred estuary]

I think imma just remove PL from the lootrun. I get walkspeed really is the issue that makes it much harder and I do not want to change the core of the challenge.

the main spell does do tue damage

but its meant to be dodgeable, its blocked by blocks

[elfin citrus]

yes please i almost died to falling in the holes

[sacred estuary]

the problem is the final one has nothing to block

I added shields down there will be in 2.1

[sweet smelt]

gee its almost like thats the design of the cave

[silent flare]

in a small 10x10 arena with no walls

[sacred estuary]

yes read what i said

I am adding more walls

[elfin citrus]

also animation totem is a cool boss
more stuff like that please

[silent flare]

oh cool

[sacred estuary]

also currently the explosion radius is huge

I reduced it a lot

imma be honest I need to check which one Builder-Bot Central I named the damn cave and I forget which exactly one it is

I get that confused with junk pit a lot

[elfin citrus]

i remember every single se cave yet can't remember any corkus ones except animation totem, warehouse, and pl

[sacred estuary]

so like I made all those caves before they had names and had to give them names later

I didn't spend too much time on the names so I kinda forget them

[elfin citrus]

heh

[sacred estuary]

ah yea

I can make the parkoru less shit

ill prob adjust the thopters to not use multihit and so something else

[elfin citrus]

multihit is just like generally annoying
too much knockback

[gray vessel]

the parkour's existence really is just kinda pointless cause of the roof

[sacred estuary]

that is kinda the point of caves

I like to allow little cheats if u know what ur doing

[gray vessel]

fair enough

[sacred estuary]

first time arround u probably wont do it

but afterwards when u learn the cave

u find the little cheats

in caves specifically I think its good unless it just lets u skip a boss or something

[elfin citrus]

there's that steamworks one which i find to be interesting
you can go left and do a parkour and wtvr
or you can go right, kill the boss, get the chest, and just swim up, skipping the whole parkour and snagging that chest to finish the challenge

[spice hill]

When I first saw lootrunning I assumed that new beacon locations took into account of the player's current position

And then was immediately surprised when I completed a challenge in Olmic City and find the next beacon on the other side of the literal goddamn Expanse

Why doesn't the game calculate distance when picking new beacon spots what the hell

[sacred estuary]

it does

it just doesnt 100% do it

[elfin citrus]

at least you dont have to walk across the entirety of corkus 7 times in a row

[sacred estuary]

I didnt make the back end, but my suspect is it uses % weights right

but that can still lead to far away things being only ones included

really I think, idk if this could get added, it should be hard counters, first: if u just did a challenge or did it 1 challenge ago never give it until another challenge has been beat: 2 do not ever give the idk 5 farthest challenges away

this would lead to 1: not getting the same challenges each time so it forces u to move a little bit away

so u dont end up PL steamworks loop

but also wont give u challanges very far away

[elfin citrus]

well it keeps giving me stuff on the opposite side of corkus
like literally coast to coast

[sacred estuary]

yea ik

what im saying is the way I would like it to work

the way it works rn I am pretty sure is a % chance

based on some factors

[elfin citrus]

maybe it's just orange beacons messing stuff up

[sacred estuary]

I'm saying it really should be hard line do and do not give challenges if they are too far away or have been done recently

[elfin citrus]

also is it possible to modify missions and stuff slightly for different lr camps
like, corkus is really not very ult sac friendly

[celest girder]

https://tenor.com/view/worn-mario-tired-mario-exhausted-pipe-mario-super-mario-movie-gif-7422035008652727803

ive been saying this for so long
the pipes by the Five Gears Diner should be fast travel to outside the cave by the uth shrine

[coarse juniper]

swap out the warehouse with any other cave and I will never complain again 👍

[nimble epoch]

Steamworks sucks on any build or LR where you have really high walkspeed

[summer sparrow]

Warehouse gives me cancer so

[sacred estuary]

remove all caves

[summer sparrow]

☺️

[quiet vine]

agreement

[quiet vine]

cool idea

[coarse juniper]

Remove corkus lootruns and add cinfras

[sweet smelt]

cinfras already exists, at dead island and in the middle of gavel

[coarse juniper]

Lootrun camp

[sacred estuary]

ocean lootrun

just to make distances even worse

[elfin citrus]

would actually be really cool (given some camp-specific changes)

also that would mean ocean revamp which i 100% support

[sweet smelt]

no it wouldnt

[elfin citrus]

😭

[sweet smelt]

sky islands lr did not mean sky islands revamp, rodo lr did not mean rodo revamp, etc

also i think a lot of people fail to understand how much work an ocean revamp would be

[elfin citrus]

yeah but you really should consider it someday
maybe you can place 1 block a day!

[nimble epoch]

It’s a lot of work but ocean is a vacuum of boring that would benefit from a revamp someday, obv as a major update or something

[sacred estuary]

oop wrong channel

[sweet smelt]

let me just remind you that the ocean is like 4x the size of fruma or something

[nimble epoch]

That’s great! I still think it should be a thing that happens though

[sweet smelt]

it would take years

[silent flare]

i thought oceans weren’t supposed to have a whole lot going on

[nimble epoch]

Cool!

[sweet smelt]

it is not worth the amount of time and effort it would take, build resources redirected to building a seafloor for years that like 2 players will ever pay attention to

[silent flare]

with 1.18 you could technically add an underground province but this is thinking way into the future

[coarse juniper]

ask the community if they wanna help building it with building competition then it's less work ig

[nimble epoch]

I mean more interesting ocean content, making use of the islands that are there and barely used, spicing up older ocean quests, new ocean quests, not a seafloor update

[silent flare]

selchar quest

[celest girder]

hire me i will build ocean all by myself within 6 month

[spice hill]

(I will never stop sending this image has anyone made an ocean rework of my scale yet)

[elfin citrus]

😳

[sacred estuary]

in 2.1 Removed Pirate Lattice

(from lootruns)

[ocean pumice]

👍

[devout socket]

wait real

[sacred estuary]

yes (from lootruns)

[devout socket]

omg yay

[coarse juniper]

What the flip is pirate lattice

[sacred estuary]

or possibly massive changes idk this shit is hard

[ocean pumice]

true

[sacred estuary]

really toggle walkspeed would help in all cases of parkour

but idk we will see, but PL is not gunna remain as is

[nimble epoch]

Would solve all the issues I have with Steamworks cave

[muted gulch]

Okay but where is the “change all LR mobs to LASER Driller” option

[devout socket]

any percent crash world challenge

[sacred estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[mystic kestrel]

skill issue LOLOLOL

[ocean pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-gif-15687325833433865178

(please preserve your precious life)

[nimble epoch]

What an amazing response to criticism

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