CPS

[dapper blaze]

every update the game becomes more unplayable then people wonder why wynncraft is dying smh

[stiff thunder]

i do hope they change it back to 10 tho

[rustic totem]

Perhaps even a lil higher

But thats too risky for now

[stiff thunder]

thats uh . not ognna happen idkj

[winter idol]

it will probably take ages tho

[rustic totem]

Yeah, ik it wont, id personally like around 12cps tho

[carmine beacon]

(me)

[rustic totem]

I mean, after 10 years, quite impressive the game still has an active player base, specially since its on minecraft

[rustic totem]

Lucy, we dont talk abt u here

[winter idol]

if they keep it like this the playerbase will die just a matter of time this isnt playable

[crimson yarrow]

i've seen others

[muted crown]

wtf panic zealot nerf i just realized

[dire yarrow]

me :(

[late obsidian]

wdym

[rustic totem]

Wait what ?

[dire yarrow]

billions must quit tna and go lootrun

[carmine beacon]

rift and arcanist mages on suicide watch

[muted crown]

can spam less aura

[carmine beacon]

[mossy sparrow]

go upvote thanks
https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1230233189470175406

[rustic totem]

I spent the last week grinding trying to optimise my warring gear, just for them to lower cps cap and completely fuck up healing in warring

[dire yarrow]

epic win chat

[winter idol]

now blacksmith your idol

[dire yarrow]

die die die

[winter idol]

1.7k runs is enough you should play something else

[dire yarrow]

nah

[rustic totem]

No! Ill pay double what blacksmith pays for it
@dire yarrow

[rich burrow]

lf cps

[dire yarrow]

i still wanna play cspam because i really like it but it not being possible kinda stinks

[rustic totem]

Tank idol cspam build

[dire yarrow]

i dont care for its dmg or support viability that much i just wanna cspam like i used to with -65 cc

[rustic totem]

So u dont die like a moron

[crimson yarrow]

worst part is that it fucks with people's muscle memory ngl

[dire yarrow]

nop nop nop

[stiff thunder]

yea it sucks for me lol

[rustic totem]

True

[rustic totem]

Specially in warring

[crimson yarrow]

if you're fast at casting normally, it literally makes your spell combos fuck up

not sure what devs were cooking with this one but it needs a bit more time in the oven...

[rich burrow]

the manual spell casts get messed up :smh:

[rustic totem]

Perhaps even remake it with new ingredients

[devout cairn]

i am lf userbase testing

[rich burrow]

i am lf brain cell in content team ongobb

[devout cairn]

me when prod is the testing server

[rustic totem]

Best phrase ive read all day

[stiff thunder]

always has been...

[late obsidian]

it was a "mistake patch" like the idol one which means we can expect a reversion/change within half a business year which is still faster than i wouldve expected

in the meantime learn to use jsmacros

[rich burrow]

dw only have to wait 7 months for next patch

[rustic totem]

So true bestie

[rich burrow]

you cant even click to cast spells properly

[marsh dust]

Next major update before fruma

[stiff thunder]

its so over for the endgame playerbase if mods find out about the search feature in the jsmacros discord

[marsh dust]

Obviously they all make legal 1 spell macros

[stiff thunder]

yes ofc

[potent linden]

open up hero beta for these types of controversial changes idk
player feedback on what the ct is about to release would be incredibly valuable

[rustic totem]

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-energy-galaxy-gif-17739196

[dapper blaze]

i feel like if they want to make a game that disallow macros fast casting high cps etc and people just play very casually

they should at least make it so warring and end game stuff isn't so hard and unstable that without it it's just not fun or feasible

also the reason people want to macro and do 0 watched tna is because tomes are a TERRIBLE game design idea and force players to boringly grind these raids for hours to only have a small chance to get what they need

[rustic totem]

Just code your own

[rich burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865356997892767794/1205435348771938425/speechmemified_monaspeechbubble.png.gif

content team in question:

[rustic totem]

Ok no, tna kinda fun tcc dogshit tho

[swift halo]

Anita Max Wynn

[stiff thunder]

my hich got jumped checking this thread LMAO

[marsh dust]

Did you die

[potent linden]

🔥

[swift halo]

Pulling up rn 😼

[stiff thunder]

no i killed them

[marsh dust]

Ok logging on

Wait were in the same guild

[rustic totem]

[stiff thunder]

no i left and joined hich

[marsh dust]

Ok epic

I mean ironman btw

[stiff thunder]

real

[rustic totem]

Linny, honest opinion, what do you think will happend regarding this change? Do you know it will be reverted, or are we just going to need to suck it up and accept it?

[stiff thunder]

i genuinely don't know tbh. id lean towards it not being changed but it might

[rustic totem]

Aight

[stiff thunder]

theres discussion in ct cord ab it

[marsh dust]

Is this the first time it was brought up

[stiff thunder]

fuck no xd

[marsh dust]

Ok so the change was known about before?

[dapper blaze]

the current situation is that it's hard to allow anyone to play DPS in HQ wars without a macro because the gap is huge

making it that ppl can't macro will only level it down instead of improving anything

[stiff thunder]

oh. no. it was talked about before in general but that was when it went to 10

[marsh dust]

Oh okay

[stiff thunder]

i just woke up to like 5 dms from people saying the game is dead with no context

[marsh dust]

It's joever

[candid surge]

do they have barrier blocks inside of their head

[dapper blaze]

it won't make the game more just
it will just make warring not feasible

[rustic totem]

If they dont chamge anything abt the cps cap, they will need to lower tower stats to make it actually duable without macros and at only 8cps

[viscid cape]

git gud

[stiff thunder]

i think the warrers are gonna be fine lmao

its just irritating to play with

[rustic totem]

That isnt how it works bro, at 8cps u unironically cannot heal on dry snipes and 1conns

Iiirc

[viscid cape]

cannot heal on dry snipes 😫

[rustic totem]

I disagree

[viscid cape]

(nobody cares about drysnipes)

[stiff thunder]

i mean the way i see it is that its just going to change the meta somewhat. and everything will continue like normal lol

[carmine beacon]

Did mage had to take the hit for this 😭

[stiff thunder]

maybe you need to 1conn instead of 2 now. w/e. people will be pissed about it being annoying which is fair

[sullen vortex]

🤯

[rustic totem]

You say that cuz u have never entered a war lol

[stiff thunder]

im sad mage death tho :(

[viscid cape]

I would love to see the 1 sps (spell per second) mechanic in wynncraft, that way it will be way more realistic. Because. Ermmm. What the flip how do you cast more than one spell in one second???

[viscid cape]

sure thing

[sullen vortex]

didnt you say that about yourself like an hour ago

[rustic totem]

I said i dont have that much practice, ive warred before tho

[sullen vortex]

but saying donbass never been in a war is funny

[paper rose]

dawg i spent the past few days making dry consu for like 15 attempts..

[cerulean axle]

I doubt they balance anything around wars, shit has been broken for years

[viscid cape]

too bad

[rustic totem]

Oof

[brave iron]

tstakc meta 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[paper rose]

we were basically ready tragic

[cerulean axle]

and even if they are balancing for wars, reducing dps would be a step in the correct direction even if this approach is a bit silly

[swift halo]

rahhhh

[sullen vortex]

that will be 48 t2 dernic

[viscid cape]

Never warred in my life 🔥🔥🔥

[paper rose]

no more ptt 5 con

[marsh dust]

Who was the target

[high ibex]

I know this has already been said a bunch, but the game feels pretty substantially worse to play now due to the cap

[viscid cape]

i can duo ptt 5 con

[cerulean axle]

arguably the wars that were being done before this change were unreasonable

[stiff thunder]

yea

[paper rose]

ptt 5 con 146k

[mossy sparrow]

I can solo ptt dry (path to thanos)

[marsh dust]

Then for what other content does the anti macro thing matter then

[rustic totem]

Same

[cerulean axle]

tna tryhards ☺️

[viscid cape]

TNA speedruns ❓❓❓❓

[devout cairn]

snipes are gonna be so sad now

[carmine beacon]

They hate mage

[cerulean axle]

lootrunns prolly

[rustic totem]

Ico changed their hq tho, it aint on ptt anymore

[brave iron]

8 cps is wild i could cycle faster with my feet

[paper rose]

next season

[swift halo]

avo feet!?

[rustic totem]

I see

[high ibex]

Like I don't even use macros at all and lots of my inputs are being lost

[paper rose]

avo feet

[stiff thunder]

i am never hearing the end of avo feet istg

[sullen vortex]

coadals lets ewar TBH

[rustic totem]

Proof?

[carmine beacon]

Doesn't really change shit lmao

[sullen vortex]

show this noob how its DONE !!!!!

[brave iron]

can i say something bannable @strong haven

[carmine beacon]

Heard of bashscream hero

[marsh dust]

Sources tell me [blud] will hold kander cinfras next season

[cerulean axle]

ive seen more tna tryhards complain today than I thought existed...

[viscid cape]

Just buy an apartament next to the wynncraft servers what's the problem

[rustic totem]

Lmfao

[rustic totem]

4 hero users new meta?

[high ibex]

It's also just a 20% damage nerf to spell spam builds which feels really weird to have had happen so suddenly

[viscid cape]

ur just a linnyflower fan 🙄

[paper rose]

i dont care about damage nerf, shit eats my inputs

[carmine beacon]

1 hero support and 3 other DPS (hero)

[rustic totem]

Yes

[brave iron]

hich is gonna snipe with the feet tech just wait 🙏

[stiff thunder]

yea same

[swift halo]

5 person feet snipe 😼

[carmine beacon]

Idol only for trickrobats, but idol feels ass to play

[hushed flax]

Guys new proposal (bad idea)
1 spell per second limit
Damage trippled

[marsh dust]

realistically most people dont care about the numbers if the game feels shit to play its shit

[hushed flax]

🔥

[brave iron]

idgaf about tna i just want to be able to cast spin attack three times in a row

[marsh dust]

genius idea nagisastreams

[hushed flax]

Thank you I am brilliant

[brave iron]

guys hear me out bring back 20mill damage unlimited cps

[hushed flax]

Guys hear me out
Give it a few days like it or not

[carmine beacon]

not with that rat body, consider the sponsor of the video gymbros who I shall now briefly thank

[brave iron]

I HATE YOU MENDISABLER

[hushed flax]

I'm not saying you will suddenly like it btw.

[rustic totem]

no, revert it now

[swift halo]

Bring back dashtstack NOW

[carmine beacon]

GLAD THE RELATIONSHIP IS MUTUAL!!!

[paper rose]

based and red pilled

[swift halo]

doom emoji

[carmine beacon]

mbp dry snipe 🥺

[swift halo]

😼

[rustic totem]

new war meta, 2 tanks 2 healers 1 dps

[paper rose]

we will run it back

[rustic totem]

ongob

[paper rose]

(we wont)

mehku doesnt play ponto doesnt play essentuan doesnt play and linny flower is linny flower

[zinc linden]

Tstack meta will return !!!

[carmine beacon]

Wrong answer.

Bashscream hero.

[marsh dust]

will they all reunite for 2.1

[rustic totem]

2 spells per second bscream go hard

[zinc linden]

I fear for my Arcanist lifestyle rn

[rustic totem]

its dead basically

[zinc linden]

I was already tripping on spells with lootruns with old cap

[carmine beacon]

Nah mage is crying

[paper rose]

IM SORRY BUT WHAT

[sullen vortex]

why here

[zinc linden]

why here

[sullen vortex]

i thought so

[zinc linden]

Our time in the spotlight is over, we're back to 1.20!!

Wait what if this was an elaborate way to fight ETW meta

[carmine beacon]

Doesn't change anything about etw

Bashscream tcrack/hero exists

And they don't need >8cps

It's only cspam that gets gutted for warrior

[prime iris]

what other things get hit here (genuine question)

[rustic totem]

i manually hit more than 8cps on bashscream

[carmine beacon]

Mage is r.i.p

[carmine beacon]

I mean realistically you don't really need to but alright

[prime iris]

tna or lr

[rustic totem]

yeah ik, but like, it just fucked me over

[carmine beacon]

Both

[prime iris]

could loot run not just slow down a little?

[zinc linden]

Okay I think I'll be okay

[carmine beacon]

?

[prime iris]

like just do lower dps

i mean does it necessarily kill mage in lrs?

[carmine beacon]

It did not need that nerf, it just makes warrior a even better choice over magd

[rustic totem]

oh fuck this is abd

[west wigeon]

wait they changed cps??

[prime iris]

thoughts on this getting reverted

[west wigeon]

Why??? like if you’re worried about macros like ban the macros or soemrhing

[rustic totem]

i went to test idol, its actually true, u cant hold shit above mob cuz u go down faster then ur next charge gets casted

[west wigeon]

I cast normally at high cps im affected most when i’m fully legit

[zinc linden]

Corn look at glitched pixel and heyzeeros messages for full explanation

[west wigeon]

link message there’s 1.2k messages here … doom

[reef flame]

me when i learned to cast spells reliably at 12 cps for tna upperspam a year ago
just for them to reduce the limit to 10 so i have to relearn everything
now the same shit again
stop making the game worse please
idc if my damage gets reduced by 99% as long as the game is still fair to play and feels good i will play
the main reason i like wynncraft is because i get to spam spells
and slowly that is being taken away
to the point where i am not the only one that can cast faster than the limit manually

[sullen vortex]

good

but you can better....

[zinc linden]

#1230149392019882075 message

[prime iris]

as someone who hasnt been around in this game much why dont they rather just lower the damage rather than make the game FEEL worse to play?

[reef flame]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[prime iris]

that seems kind of pointless

[carmine beacon]

Still waiting for trickrobat nerf

[west wigeon]

okay but like for what reason did this nerf happen did they go into that

[prime iris]

because last thing it felt like most things were somewhat viable in tna at least bar shaman

[zinc linden]

Fighting macro users

[west wigeon]

just ban the macros dude.

[rustic totem]

Prevent macroes, except this does nothing but the oposite

[rancid siren]

ok wtf you actually need to be so high up for it to somewhat work

[zinc linden]

They explained it was hard to detect

[inland raven]

Why the fuck are you people at 12 hundred messages

[zinc linden]

And this is the only way to reliably fight it

[prime iris]

at that point just lower dps rather than make the game feel worse for everyone to play

[west wigeon]

that’s their fucking problem 💀💀

I don’t macro and I cast high cps

[steep laurel]

banning macros is easier said than done, also i thought the team made it clear that spell cast macros were allowed (1 input 1 spell that is)

[west wigeon]

This just makes me get shit on

[rustic totem]

sorry, what?

[west wigeon]

yeah but apparently they want to ban the macros because of this change

[reef flame]

yeah
lunar client even has a mod for it
and they officially partnered with lunar client
sooooooooo

[west wigeon]

I’ll test it out later when I have time

[steep laurel]

i think they want to make macros less powerful

[zinc linden]

Supposedly it's very noticeable

[prime iris]

i think theyre trying to deal with people who are multiple input spell macroing

[rancid siren]

you can still play idol but if you dont want to fall down everytime you cycle you need to stay really high up on the border of charge not hitting

[carmine beacon]

Welp

[west wigeon]

This literally kills my skill that I have learned over years

[carmine beacon]

Was fun while it lasted charge spam idol

[rancid siren]

basicly just made idol need skill

[reef flame]

that is not going to stop those people
if i can press 10 buttons a second everyone else can do 3

[prime iris]

what are the odds admins pull an idol and revert?

[carmine beacon]

Hello Hero

[west wigeon]

I should be at least rewarded for how fast i can cast

[steep laurel]

just hope it gets reverted i guess?
i can't help you with that you'll just have to learn the new rhythm

[rustic totem]

problem isnt cycling, when u play idol ur supposed to hold shift, for most dmg, and release it get some height and then cycle, now u cant hold shift cuz u go down faster than u can recast charge to get more height while holding shift

[prime iris]

agreed but that was the reasoning i think?

[zinc linden]

Unknown, they've gotta see how it does

[reef flame]

5%

[west wigeon]

horrible game….

[strong haven]

https://tenor.com/view/no-donkeys-shrek-gif-16041065

[rustic totem]

less

[west wigeon]

at least like ask for community feedback before you change this this is such a bad change

[prime iris]

this shits so fucking bad man :/

[reef flame]

best shot at getting something changed is finding an exploit with it

[rustic totem]

it alr needed skill before

[dapper blaze]

they want to ban macros and make the game more casual and fair for everyone ? fine

then make all the hard stuff easier so we can actually still do our shit just fine

the reason people use macros is cuz warring is somewhat hard

and ppl want to tna 0 watched because tomes are OP and grinding them is boring asf so people want to minimize the time it takes

[zinc linden]

Got pushed early, this patch was meant to be a bug fix

[reef flame]

apparently this was accidentally pushed

[dapper blaze]

ain't no balance just making everything even harder

[steep laurel]

communities often have divides that make it infeasible to appease everyone

[reef flame]

wich is
????

[prime iris]

[west wigeon]

Everyone’s okay wiht removing macros but not when it affects the people who have played the game the most and learned how to play WELL the most.

I’m okay with removing macros i think it’s stupid

[rustic totem]

who the fuck is advocating for less cps?? unless ur a braindead tstack user, everyone liked that old cps cap

[rustic totem]

was**

[steep laurel]

this is not a case where there seems to be a divide however

[rustic totem]

tbh, i dont think macros are a bad thing, specially considering the state of warring, where if u fuck up ur cycle once, ur dead (if healer) and kills ur whole team as well, since the towers are just so strong, and we cant get ANYWHERE close to that strength

ig idol really just a movement mythic now, hooray

[west wigeon]

FINALLY.

OK GOOD CHNAGE

[rustic totem]

?

[glad wharf]

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1230245146445086880
i made a post detailing my thoughts/feelings on the change and potential directions we could take

[west wigeon]

people who have abused poor idol in turning it into the most brainless adrenaline junky dps mythic. cspam. finally its gone.

[glad wharf]

hopefully the discussion will be a bit healthier than this thread has been

[west wigeon]

overall bad change. i dont like this. it feels like im playing through water right now.

[rustic totem]

it wasnt braindead, also, it will continue to be used on actual tna parties, cuz of its support capabilities, considering how much curse and armor breaker matter on 0 watched greg

[rustic totem]

epoch is more brainless, i want it gone shhh

[cerulean axle]

epoch is fine, the dps is still way lower than anything that requires effort to use

[dire yarrow]

we did it chat. we made green worlds feel like red worlds

[rustic totem]

nah, u can get up to 680k dps while only holding m2

[carmine beacon]

Say that to alka

Or epoch or hero

[west wigeon]

epoch doesnt stand, hero was already majorly used, alka was used in tstack in 1.20

[rustic totem]

epoch is used more than hero, in tna atleast, from what i see

[carmine beacon]

And was it worth switching to an agruably more braindead meta?

[west wigeon]

i dont get why we are talking about this

anyways yeah this cps nerf just hurts the playerbase who learned wynn the most. now i have to adjust to this reduction in cps. like. its arguably even easier for the macroers who just change one number.

[carmine beacon]

Arguing about idol being the most braindead mythic

That you are truly wrong, you have not seen the likes of 3 heros bashscream VM room brainrot

[west wigeon]

i think cspam is a braindead playstyle. its a stupid one at that. its getting nerfed for a reason. idols name was tarnished because of it

[prime iris]

epoch exists

[rustic totem]

you are objectively wrong abt cspam being braindead

[prime iris]

the idea that idol is more braindead than right click is interesting

[rustic totem]

ongobb

[carmine beacon]

And it's only good in tna, while hero is literally better at EVERYTHING ELSE

[dire yarrow]

smartest wynncraft player

[rancid siren]

its not as braindead as epoch, but it still doesnt need that much skill
idol takes brain, cspam doesnt really

[prime iris]

cspam also is only usable in tna

[west wigeon]

Im specifically talking about warrior. epoch is stupid yeah but im talking about warrior.

[dire yarrow]

if you say cspam is braindead you havent played it

[rustic totem]

cspam does, its a really thin line between dealing insane dmg and just insta dying

[prime iris]

^

[west wigeon]

okay 440% spell multiplier.... doom

[carmine beacon]

Meanwhile bashscream

[prime iris]

so we are debating whether or not people should be rewarded for the risk of it

[rancid siren]

its not a thin line
or well wasnt

[carmine beacon]

Your point

[dire yarrow]

why are people so obsessed with this number lmao, its a single target ability and other abilities deal more damage if you want them to

[rustic totem]

it was, even then, if u fucked up a single input, you either died, or lost your corrupted and or whole dmg with it

[dire yarrow]

im not spamming charge for its dmg in vm room

[late obsidian]

the slated cspam nerfs are too harsh, a slight one wouldve been better

not that it matters when bashscream does the same damage except its aoe and infinitely less risky but what do i know

[dire yarrow]

now u cant even play it 😭

[rustic totem]

yeah, problem is, how to go abt it?

[prime iris]

also i think that idol itself being killed (as a playstyle) is disgusting because even if it doesnt do insane damage and it got damage gutted the playstyle is useful for debuffs buffs and aggro

[rustic totem]

yeah, and even regarding that, hero cspam deals arguably more dmg than idol cspam

[late obsidian]

tweak the nerfs so they reduce the multiplier by less

[prime iris]

"arguably" (isnt that quite literally a stat check which would show hero being more)

[rustic totem]

perhaps

[late obsidian]

you have to keep in mind my opinion that cspam should do high damage goes hand in hand with my belief that most if not all of the team utility that fallen has (ab + ragna) should be moved to paladin

[rustic totem]

i dont have a good hero cspam build to look at tho, so idk exactly

[late obsidian]

in that regard, making cspam a pure single target dps playstyle is perfectly reasonable within the current state of the game

[rustic totem]

why all that to paladin tree?°

[carmine beacon]

Make paladin the support instead of fallen

That's the reason really

[late obsidian]

why the fuck is the dps archetype the support archetype, and then the support archetype does dog shit on literally everything outside fo wars?

[rustic totem]

true, charge was never meant to deal AoE dmg only flyby jab but u almost never use that

[rustic totem]

hm, you got a point

at that point tho, wouldnt just 4 dps' deal more dmg?

than 3 dps and 1 idol, since idol dmg would be almost completely voided

[late obsidian]

why should fallen get a conditionless teamwide damage buff (ragna, and +10 war scream does not count as a downside in 99% of situations anyways) and pally gets... radiance/

[rustic totem]

true

[dire yarrow]

too complicated, we can arbitrarily reduce a few numbers on charge nodes though 😊

[late obsidian]

i mean yeah, thats an option; im just saying that pally should get the bufs because its a support class, and then we can keep chargespam as is/only give it a slight nerf becuse then it becomes a generic dps archetype and not a dps/support hybrid like it is now

[carmine beacon]

Ragna now removes resistance buff and replaces with a self buff

[late obsidian]

thats why i said i hold both opinions, and theyre complementary- cspam shouldnt get a significant nerf, but only if its support utility is moved to the support class

[rustic totem]

true, tho, idol without its debuffs would already deal WAY less dmg than it does now

so why even nerf it at that point? just swapping tree would already basically kill it

[west wigeon]

the reason they are only changing numberson charge node is because theydont have enough devs or dev time to work on changes to warrior. warrior sucks cause of its AT. Nelston is right fallen gives way more debuffs and buffs than paladin which should be changed

[late obsidian]

because it still does very solid single target dps afaik, when we run with cata/grim + idol usually the idol only gets marginalyl worse than the assassin

now maybe thats beacuse the assassin sucks or the idol is super good, but i think chargespam is in a decent place for what it is

[dire yarrow]

i doubt theyre making unironic bandage fixes

[prime iris]

ok heres the thing I dont mind the gutting of idols damage. I mind the fact that the way we are going through with gutting it is by making it unplayable, and making the game feel worse quality of life wise because of it

[rustic totem]

yeah, but thats becouse of the buffs, idol itself with no buffs deals little dmg tbh

[west wigeon]

they literally said that.

[winter idol]

i found a solution! use this domain -> garbge.wynncraft.com and you will be able to cast spells normally (it works) @dire yarrow

[dire yarrow]

BILLIONS MUST KITE!

[carmine beacon]

Idol only gets kinda eh damage compared to the monstrousity that is trickrobat

[dire yarrow]

we're so cooked

[west wigeon]

its a bandaid fix, because not enough devs

[dire yarrow]

thats an incredibly stupid way to approach balance

[carmine beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220613708049420378/1229452370669473933/lol_kite.mp4?ex=662fbbbf&is=661d46bf&hm=f99256f1498bf8e601e59becceb66003582c82302d84e66744e0888728367db1&

[late obsidian]

no i think youre not getting what im saying- the buffs are teamwide, meaning that the assassin should also be getting the ab and ranga

[rustic totem]

pro kite

[west wigeon]

dude their way originally of approaching cspam was destroying idol.

[dire yarrow]

geniuses at work

[rustic totem]

yeah ik they are teamwide, still tho

[west wigeon]

because apprently some group of people convinced ct that idol was at fault

[rustic totem]

the only reason idol is wanted on good tna parties is becouse of its debuffs, not its dmg

[late obsidian]

in that case, the idol and cata should be on roughly equal footing (i know multipliers are gonna interact differently depending on their magnitude but im assuming they scale relatively similarly for simplicitys sake)

[reef flame]

Why is this about class balancing now

[rustic totem]

dont question, no one knows either

[late obsidian]

i understnad, and im saying that making it not "ideal in meta parties" doesnt mean its gutted, just that its a decent option the same way nobody runs gma in "tna meta parties" because grim/cata is just better

[round ledge]

wynncraft spellbound: buffing tierstack patch by patch

[rustic totem]

true

[winter idol]

sounds like a nightmare

[rustic totem]

LOL

[west wigeon]

im sure tstack is getting its head next or very soon.

[prime iris]

i was also questioning this. Why is this now about arguing class identity rather than the bigger issue of "we just made every single class less playable and more clunky" in terms of a spell spam

[late obsidian]

chargespam being viable is good enough, i dont see why it needs to remain meta except maybe to placate the whomp whomp crybabies who wil llose value on their idols because a stagnant balance meta is vital to their net worth staying high

[rustic totem]

do you have a grim build to send me?? i wanna test it

[winter idol]

🗣️

[late obsidian]

#🗿class_builds has plenty

[rustic totem]

that discussion alr ended, everyone agrees its an absolute fucking idiotic change

[carmine beacon]

First started with saying idol and cpsam dying is good because it's braindead and shit went off the rails from there

[late obsidian]

becuse my paladin balance thread died so now i must derail other threads with offtopic discussion in order to advance my agenda

[prime iris]

this is valid

[carmine beacon]

The new CPS cap doesn't really do anything except for double spin

Single spin is fine, so my pf class is fine

[rustic totem]

and wars

ik on dificult snipes u do up to 3 spins

[reef flame]

Its not about what playstyles die

Ita the fact that the game now feels ass to play
I click faster than 8 cps by instinct now
Wich makes me misscast a LOT

[winter idol]

i actually like the new cps limit maybe people will understand how it feels to play from asia

[late obsidian]

my favorite thing is playing archer, casting escape when i meant to do something else, going out of phantom ray range, and losing all my focus

it feels absolutely awesome i think its really wholesome and fun

[muted crown]

Just automatically ban every player who does more than 100 wars or 1000 tna runs and remove cps cap problem solved

[late obsidian]

real shit

[carmine beacon]

For fucks sa-

[low laurel]

How are you losing your focus if you cast escape after ray

[rustic totem]

yes

[late obsidian]

if im cycling quickly and i dont notice since its muscle memory, i end up casting the ray out of range since usually im on ray edge range anyways

[low laurel]

It says it's 16 blocks why are you that far away 😭

[muted crown]

Dont like enemies, dont want to hug them

[late obsidian]

my fault for playing the ranged class like a ranged class 🤕

next time ill try kissing the mobs as a glassy 1 hp dps youre totally right

[low laurel]

You can very safely play from 5 blocks away

If you're a bit scared of Gregory maybe 8

[muted crown]

I only go closer for bomb spam since bomb cant work like meteor for some reason

[carmine beacon]

At least do it on this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030196507703513108/1230214395779354794/image.png?ex=66328170&is=66200c70&hm=235ce225753b2fa0713cd4abdb418a0220d242998faf05890f02114405691bc5&

[muted crown]

Skill issue counter

[late obsidian]

ok in the first place, i dont think it matters beacuse escape fucks my cycle up to the point where i miss my ray and focus goes away and now this happens more often with a lower cps cap

[low laurel]

that's why you play close mwahahah

[late obsidian]

im not usually 16 blocks away im like 8-10 but that puts me far enough back that an escape will send me out of range

[bleak fog]

reducing the skill ceiling even more in wynn is crazy

mfw the staff team struggles to make coherent decisions

[glad wharf]

the decision mightve been half baked out the gate, like they said it wasnt supposed to be pushed today 😭

[cerulean axle]

why would they change the code for it if it isnt final....

[glad wharf]

thats true actually 💀

[cerulean axle]

same with idol tbh

[glad wharf]

okay maybe it was a little final

[cerulean axle]

I dont believe in them reversing anything

[glad wharf]

idol is just a couple numbers tho u can ruin a weapon with ur eyes closed tbh

[low laurel]

It wasn't supposed to be pushed so close your eyes is crazy

[bleak fog]

how is it not a static rpg at this point when the last real class balancing patch was over 6 months ago and the meta has been broken since 2.0 release

[late obsidian]

they dev the same way i write my programs, implement a bunch of shit without testing and then get shocked when it doesnt work as intended

[dire yarrow]

are you guys excited for the revert to come uhhhh uhhhh we also dont have the power to do this before 2.1 but we can nerf something else right now if we want

[late obsidian]

i propose that we nerf gma by making negative hpr kill you :wholesome: as we all know gma is the root of all issues in this game right now

[dire yarrow]

GENIUS!

[bleak fog]

yes please

[flint silo]

god now I remember why I quit last year these nimrods are so neuroimpaired

@dire yarrow are you doggc reacting me

[late obsidian]

doesnt the lore say? the more you hold the weapon the more you age so holding gma should just fucking kill you

[bleak fog]

AH RIGHT THE LORE

[flint silo]

ohok

[bleak fog]

wynncrafts lore writing team is bigger than dev team :C

[late obsidian]

im saving this this is too funny

[flint silo]

yeah the ultra consistent ultra in depth lore

[bleak fog]

furry lore

[flint silo]

that explains it

fire every ct/dev and just get new ones at this point

how is it physically possible to keep fucking the game over so bad so often

[low laurel]

Using Alka for 5 hours should lock you to it forever "Continued usage of the weapon threatens to release it upon the wielder, permanently binding them to the weapon."

[bleak fog]

then the new devs starting reading the code thats currently in place and end up taking a bath with their toaster

[flint silo]

yeah probably

[round ledge]

yeah? and time rift should infinitely lag back u because it wants u to experience walking 1 block forward again and again

[simple mulch]

Inshallah

[late obsidian]

lag is an intended feature

[glacial portal]

are war bugs that havent been fixed for years intended features

[flint silo]

ICo hr should be new ct/devs on god

constant war updates 🔥

[glacial portal]

2% champion discount to anyone with a lobotomy

[flint silo]

wow current ct get cheaper champ that's so generous 😍

[glacial portal]

war balance easy
step 1 remove trickster
done

[carmine beacon]

Remove gu attack so on-map guilds get perma emseeks

Make emeralds, not war!

[late obsidian]

war update #1 anyone who types /gu a will get auto banned

war update #2 anyone who unironically uses 3/2 on res prods will be hanged in a public square

[cerulean axle]

only until 2.1 (they will remove em seeking)

[simple mulch]

Your ass is not getting banned then 🙏

[glacial portal]

Insta ban from war discussion anyone who isn't strat+ in major guilds

[glacial portal]

rest in piss mald revival chances

[cerulean axle]

they will make attacking other guilds a valid method to get SR and give special rewards (trust)

[glacial portal]

Ordering half a krillion stx of hq coins on prof

[bleak fog]

the map is now one big territory

[late obsidian]

the more terrs you hold the less emseek you get in the new update, any on map guild will receive negativ emseek

[dire yarrow]

war update #3 warring removed (faces community backlash, revert passed within 48 hours, but woopsies our hands are tied and we cant actually push this update until next year sorry sorry sorry uim really realy sorry)

[late obsidian]

king of the hill :wholesome:

[summer wind]

players deal too much damage I think, lower cps cap to 3

[glacial portal]

#1 way to make half the endgame community quit

[summer wind]

also there's now two feedback posts discussing the same thing

[bleak fog]

nah why would KOTH on wynn actually be more fun than real warring

[simple mulch]

Oopsies guys we accidentally removed shaman

[dire yarrow]

i can think of a great way for the CTs to put an end to that..............

[cerulean axle]

yea this one isnt really discussing anything at this point, please go to the other one

[late obsidian]

one spell per second is a new way to encourage strategic depth and push players to a more cerebral playstyle which improves upon the intrinsic complexities of a carefully designed experience which wynncraft always strives to provide to all of its users in the most efficient and effective way possible during all times of all days

[dire yarrow]

sorry guys this was the last patch, the revert comes out 3.0

[simple mulch]

We're gonna revert is next patch dw hahaha lol

[bleak fog]

the next patch: 2025

guys dont worry we have another major update coming soon

[glacial portal]

Just add spell cool downs at this point and remove mana

[dire yarrow]

bro i just wanna play idol idgaf if it does 3 damage im tryna tna

[bleak fog]

COTL & ROL lootrun camps !

[simple mulch]

Add dps cap instead

[dire yarrow]

they just nuked the entire playstyle

[ionic path]

idol chargespam is going crazy

[glacial portal]

nivla wood lrc >>>> quality updates

[bleak fog]

2.1: WE ADDED LOOTRUN CHALLENGES TO THE VOID!

[summer wind]

fuck yes, damage caps, I love those
me grinding for Dmg Cap Up V+s in granblue relink

[cerulean axle]

wynncraft now features a turn based combat system, giving opportunnities for mobs to attack and thereby putting and end to the etw meta

[glacial portal]

mid war lrc

[simple mulch]

People who get sub 100k dps feel bad about it .. you have to understand 🥹

[dire yarrow]

dude delete this rn theyre gonna put this in game

[bleak fog]

TURN BASED WYNN LIKE ITS POKEMON 💀

[glacial portal]

@wheat geyser

[dire yarrow]

emulated CT reasoning

[viscid cape]

Did you just steal my idea

???

[summer wind]

it would be like pokemon, it's not good enough to count as any actually good JRPG

[glacial portal]

You can now only cast 10 spells per life

[wheat geyser]

;-;

[summer wind]

cast 10 spells per day

purchase spell pack to cast 15more

[bleak fog]

literal mobile game

[wheat geyser]

Hey I used to be one of the dps we had in ico

[viscid cape]

Spell Bomb*

[glacial portal]

Champ rank increases to 500 spells

Energy based recharge watch a 30s ad to restock 30 spells

[simple mulch]

@wheat geyser

[bleak fog]

Soul points now can only be regenerated through silverbull shares

[round ledge]

trickobat and macro mage are too powerful in the tna raid, we will be removing tna next patch to allow for more diverse playstyles and builds in the community

[glacial portal]

war is no longer

[bleak fog]

truly the wynncraft way of balancing

[naive mauve]

1520+ msg👀

[simple mulch]

Half of it is probably sarcastic

[toxic timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1074033334310682717/1230237243558596771/Automatic.mov?ex=663296b7&is=662021b7&hm=e2757387aff15a9fecd1da18f7ce12b076ff2175f39fba1d3357ca17ddd20fb3&

[naive mauve]

average wynncraft

[viral heron]

bruhhh what is this shit

why would you nerf something like this

lets remove even more of the meta builds

until nothing deals dps

[finite atlas]

1.5k comments

[distant relic]

That car is better at ipad than a lot of people

[finite atlas]

WOAH I have just tried out the new 8 cps cap in practice now I understand the backlash.. revert this asap pls

[zinc linden]

How bad is it melon

[finite atlas]

really bad

9 might be oka

okay* 9.5 might be perfect, 10 is ofc fine.. but 8? no

[glad wharf]

its crazy how big the difference feels lmao

it does actually seem 10 was a sweet spot

[finite atlas]

yeah

[toxic timber]

it’s because it lined up with the fucking attack speeds for mana steal

[inland raven]

is this thread worth reading

[finite atlas]

I already died once because it just doesn't cast the spell in time

[inland raven]

like is it humerous

[crimson yarrow]

sorta yeah

[finite atlas]

so so... worth kinda

[inland raven]

ight

[round ledge]

its mostly just ppl saying pretty much the same thing

[toxic timber]

instead of bad change it’s abhorrent change

[inland raven]

so not like the armor breaker thread?

[round ledge]

what was the armor breaker thread

[inland raven]

nevermind

[clear hornet]

thios is a im not playing the game until its hotfixed cvhange

can not war or raid without feeling like i want to kms

[fallow zealot]

I agree with you

[naive mauve]

devs are actually out of their way recently

[dire yarrow]

actually bro, i main cspam idol in tna and its literally impossible to play it now

like actually impossible

[round ledge]

its pretty much impossible to play any non melee build lmao

[dire yarrow]

that’s wild

[plain raven]

welp hybrid meta here we go

[iron mango]

Warp flying just got insanely much slower. I can feel the change with just a couple telelports. It's ridiculous.

[dire yarrow]

don’t worry, next shadowpatch there will be enough time between spell casts to reset the spell cost

[round ledge]

next patch cps cap gonna be reduced to 6 and ambivalence and pandemonium gonna get buffed watch

[dire yarrow]

brilliant idea

[finite atlas]

10 was definitely the sweet spot

maybe 9.5 would work too

[iron mango]

I'm starting to believe there's some undercover team of people in ct/mod team that actively do everything in their power to make wynn worse to make it die or something. It's the only logical explanation.

[round ledge]

revert to 10 cap and add a 1 second cd on charge and ice snake

[dire yarrow]

why u gotta throw cspam under the bus 😭😭

[unique kelp]

whats the point of adding a cd to ice snake lmao

[bleak fog]

shamans movement is now better than warrior

[unique kelp]

damage is meh even at 10 cps

[iron mango]

ice snake is by far one of the most laggiest spells, if not the laggiest

[fallow zealot]

cspam my beloved

[dire yarrow]

forcing the shaman to do long parkour

[stiff thunder]

ok after actually playing around with the game and stuff. 8 cps is fucking awful

a ton of my stuff is misinputting in ways that just end up confusing me lol

[devout cairn]

No wonder everyone wants to prof today

[iron mango]

common linny w

[devout cairn]

Guys guys this is just part of the dev team’s vision to turn Wynncraft into FarmVille trust

My source is John Cena

[distant relic]

It all makes sense now….. make mythics and most other actual combat items worth much less, then force people into proffing for money, then suddenly Wynncraft is now Farmcraft with a small combat sidegame

[hushed flax]

I think a CPS reduction is fine, just wasn't tuned properly

[stiff thunder]

tuned properly

idk its just a number unless they redo the system

i feel like maybe they cd get away with 9 but like . man

[fallow zealot]

Bring back 10 cps cap again

[late obsidian]

fun thing- if you go over the limit, you end up completely fucking breaking the spells but if you’re just at or slightly under, it casts perfectly

like if you cast at let’s say 10 cps with current changes, you’ll only shit out like 5-6 cps speed spell equivalent (including with the wrong spells)

[zinc linden]

That's the queue kicking in, right?

[stuck dawn]

why the fuck is your profile banner white lol, scrolling through discord in my bed, never got flashbanged this hard

[stiff thunder]

[late obsidian]

what I mean is if you go over 8, it starts playing like 5 instead of what you’d expect (it being limited to 8)

it essentially punishes you for being good

[simple mulch]

skill issue

[zinc linden]

You just need to be good at clicking at 7.99 cps smh

[plain raven]

I guess their solution to nerfing tna builds was to ruin the combat system as a whole

[prime iris]

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1230245146445086880

[stiff thunder]

what bout it

also nice peak ranks

[prime iris]

just a topic discussing the different break points thought you would find interesting

[prime iris]

and thank you :)

[stiff thunder]

ah gotcha

yeah i agree with basically everything said

i’ve also talked with the big guys (more like everyone was incessantly mentioning it lol) about the macro cap. i think it’ll be fine and im glad this happened now instead of later when there’s too much chaos from 2.1 to fix it quickly

[prime iris]

8 feels so bad man also my point with the cps change to idol is said above but ideally i dont like the ideology of gutting the entire playstyle of warrior rather than just gutting the damage

because realistically idol can be used as support so removing the playstyle itself feels very strange

also rip mage my beloved

[stiff thunder]

i mean it’s funny that this works as a nerf but yeah it just feels terrible for everyone & is a bad way to. do things

[stiff thunder]

the arcanist bug still works fine

honestly my big issue with the ratelimiting is the lack of burst compatibility + the weird queue inputs fucking over spell cycles

if it was just slightly limited and without those issues i think the game would feel mostly fine

[prime iris]

i mean "nerf" in quotes simply because you cant do it anymore xd my only thought would be the 4 tna relevant classes being warrior mage assassin and hunter, hunter loses its main dps option in spell spam (epoch still good but the dps isnt as strong) same with mage and with rift dps lb and killing idol aggro without touching assassin

i feel the issue is overall it hurts the overall feeling of the game and fluidity

[stiff thunder]

ya

[prime iris]

the difference felt very bad when playing rift walker mage in loot runs and it felt like i just couldnt play properly

[stiff thunder]

i care a good bit less about specific metas/playstyles than i do the overall feel of the game

[stiff thunder]

yea i was pvping and everything was super frustrating lmao

[prime iris]

this is entirely valid, but the game just feels super clunky

[stiff thunder]

yup

[prime iris]

and when im used to higher than 8cps randomly tping into the abyss hurts

[stiff thunder]

i mean it still felt a bit clunky on 10 but it was acceptable / not hard to adjust to imo

[prime iris]

because the game decided to delete my lc and decided nah your ice snake? its a tp now

[stiff thunder]

unless i was like, doing war heals or something and then 10 wasn’t really playable still l

[stiff thunder]

yeah

[prime iris]

i mean agreeable to an extent but 10 still feels much better because its a 20% loss in efficiency

[stiff thunder]

i mean the reason it does it is because the cap isnt actually 8 clicks per second

[prime iris]

i see

[stiff thunder]

it’s like 1 click every 125ms and anything else gets queued

[prime iris]

i see

that would explain why everything felt like it was voiding

[stiff thunder]

filter augh

but yeah if you burst it’ll mess your spells up since it queues them and then pushes them into the middle of a different click combo

[prime iris]

im hoping this gets reverted for the simple matter of game play fluidity

[finite atlas]

arcanist bug? you say what? 👀

hi linny

[stiff thunder]

yeah i hope it’s just put back to 10 until zeer can implement a better way of doing this

what’s up melon. shh :)

[prime iris]

because as it stands as an epoch tna main all it does is make boss feel more clunky since i have to kite now and makes my loot runs feel like im playing on high ping

[stiff thunder]

yh

the other. thing about the queue is that it’s 4 inputs max

so sometimes your clicks are just straight up dropped lol

[prime iris]

yeah half my snake meteors turned into heal or random tps

[stiff thunder]

yea

[prime iris]

linny is NOT a bug leaker

never heard of them bugs thats that pokemon type right :)

[stiff thunder]

bug type is so bad

[prime iris]

please return it tomorrow :)

[finite atlas]

It is fun doing 4-5 meteors per second regardless.

[prime iris]

so then i can abuse people panic selling idols

[stiff thunder]

sometimes i question the pokémon type people and what they were thinking

[prime iris]

i swear it only exists to balance stronger pokemon to be weaker

[stiff thunder]

i feel like they were going for a shitty but generally fast evolving type that does first hits and switches but it’s like

so unusable most of the time

[prime iris]

agreed

[stiff thunder]

maybe i just suck tho lol

[prime iris]

are you a comp pokemon player if so singles or vgc?

[stiff thunder]

i only play national dex on pokémon showdown like once every two months

[prime iris]

thats fair i play a lot of vgc and a fair bit of ou in singles sit around 21-2200~ elo

[stiff thunder]

like i still use a type chart on another window because i haven’t memorized it

[rapid minnow]

i love discussing child protective services

[stiff thunder]

oo nice

ik a lot of people in atlas inc are pretty big into showdown

[prime iris]

but i agree bug feels very weak overall a lot more in vgc than in singles where they see more success but in doubles it struggles very hard into the threat of double ups

in vgc at least in usage the highest bug type is 60th (volcarona 1.22% usage) and theres none other besides that in top 100 which is super unfortunate

[rapid minnow]

we should make bug type kill the other player in real life

[stiff thunder]

that makes sense to me yeah

[toxic timber]

i have carpal tunnel so i physically cant do above like 6 cps so it doesn’t really affect me but it totally fucks with my friends who carry me from just being op at clicking

[paper rose]

Why are you like the FPS goat

[prime iris]

following that is charjabug at 115 which is mildly interesting

[stiff thunder]

i messed around with bug a bit in singles and it was ok

[paper rose]

4.8k????

[prime iris]

an unholy amount of hours with a lot of coaching help

[stiff thunder]

yeah real this guy is kinda crazy

[prime iris]

also korean genetics diff

[toxic timber]

kartana

[prime iris]

grass steel

[toxic timber]

kartana sweep

[stiff thunder]

idk how i don’t have carpal tunnel yet but even if you played like . bursts . it’s noticeable

[toxic timber]

yeah 2 and a half spells

[stiff thunder]

birdmade op 3 cps build

[toxic timber]

all u can burst

[finite atlas]

um.. how did this thread about CPS turn into a conversation about POKEMONS?

[toxic timber]

competitve pokemon is the better game

[prime iris]

because thats playable right now :D (NO IT ISNT FREE ME FROM OGREPON HELL)

[toxic timber]

especially gen 7 ou

[prime iris]

URSHIFU ORGEPON INCIN YIPPEEEEE

[toxic timber]

i only run gen 7 ou

[prime iris]

fun fact i was one of the first players on showdown using the swampert peli kingdra koko lucha ferro team above 2200

back when gen 7 was current gen

[toxic timber]

it’s your fault for ferrothorn meta

[prime iris]

😔

its ok i pay for my sins by having to battle into incin ursh oger

this team haunts my existence currently

[toxic timber]

no idea what any of that is but sounds agony

[prime iris]

(vgc)

[toxic timber]

who tf is the last one and why does misdreavous look like that

[prime iris]

urshifu he always crits and ignores protect and fluttermane

fluttermane stat spread

[toxic timber]

i literally quit pokemon at sword and shield LOL

[prime iris]

GOOD RUN ITS NOT FUN FREE YOURSELF

[toxic timber]

i just gave up

[toxic timber]

is this not landorus therian

[prime iris]

no lando incarnate both are incarnate

lando t fell off because incin is just better overall

[toxic timber]

cringe!

i remember when he was op

[prime iris]

he still is in singles

[toxic timber]

i only play ou singles lol

and i used mega camerupt and aromatisse

and gastrodon

god

i need to find my old team that i had it was glorious

[prime iris]

aromatisse

[toxic timber]

oh and it had gourgeist too

[prime iris]

i used to have a 400 team folder but it is on my old pc

[toxic timber]

i think it’s in my pastebin

[prime iris]

after gen 8 i kinda quit but i play enough to maintain in game vgc

[toxic timber]

https://pastebin.com/mbY8jFce

LOL I FOUND IT

this team was so ass

bro my other pastebins i gave names to my pokemon too

https://pastebin.com/0fBrtfrK

i’m gonna kms

[prime iris]

aromatisse is a pick beause you like it over other wish setters?

[toxic timber]

it had magic coat

and it was fairy

and fairy was op because moonblast was op

me at 18 years old thought this was genius

[prime iris]

xd

fair enough

[toxic timber]

i didn’t know what evs were

[prime iris]

your malamar is missing a few evs

[toxic timber]

yeah this mf died every time i switched it in

[prime iris]

thats so sad

[toxic timber]

gastrodon carried so many battles

it took the water move then i yawn them next turn

when they swap to another pokemon

then i could do whatever i wanted

which is when i swap to mega camerupt then fail at sweeping with fire blast

and i lose

good times

[prime iris]

love camerupt

[toxic timber]

i open with aromatisse i use magic coat and reflect toxic/stealth rock
opponent forfeits

[main axle]

Volcarona pog

[devout cairn]

is this getting pushed back to 10?

to go back to the topic

[dire yarrow]

i will not be playing until it does

[toxic timber]

u should ask the wynn devs on the forums (here is a picture of wynn dev)

they r hard at work :3

[dire yarrow]

cspam is fully unplayable now and that’s what i found fun in

[devout cairn]

Idol players stay losing

[toxic timber]

fr

god forbid people minmax

[dire yarrow]

sent out a nerf, said they revert, revert turns out to actually come out in 2.1, then cspam made wholly unplayable before then

[toxic timber]

in the numbers based mmorpg game

this is the idol nerf we’ve been waiting for

[dire yarrow]

a nerf to the entire game

[toxic timber]

yes it had to go to that extent

[dire yarrow]

idol was clearly the biggest problem facing wynncraft

[distant relic]

Legit hurts everyone except like tstack archers which already were holding left click anyways lmao

Epoch stay winning ig

[toxic timber]

another epoch w

[distant relic]

Truly the most interesting build in all of wynn

[round ledge]

literally this

[toxic timber]

they are trying to revert spellbound back to 1.20 tstack

[distant relic]

Hold right click and move sometimes, truly riveting gameplay

[distant relic]

We got the game wide damage nerf a decent amount of people asked for, just not in the way we thought....

[toxic timber]

TRUE

[distant relic]

Honestly shocked Epoch players still exist, it's so braindead that I thought any Epoch players would've died from literal brain death

Less braincells than BashScream or Charge Spam

[toxic timber]

the best part is macros for epoch are completely legal

[distant relic]

Do you need a macro for Epoch? Couldn't you just hold down right click and get a good firerate without having to spam click or anything?

[toxic timber]

default fire rate is vfast

[prime iris]

hold is technically slower

[fiery geyser]

blud fr just said aggressive

[toxic timber]

the macros wer eagresive

uwaah~

[distant relic]

10 cps is quite obtainable with 2 fingers, idk why they are acting like 10 cps macros are aggressive

[inland raven]

Honestly this issue (and a lot of other ones) could be solved by nerfing the shit out of mr and arcane transfer

Can cast 4 spells a second if you can't afford it

[late obsidian]

apparently its been reverted which, good on the devs for reverting a change like this and im really glad to have been proven wrong

[prisma rapids]

gonna go test that theory out

[prisma rapids]

its definetly still ingame

[late obsidian]

new servers

[toxic timber]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[prisma rapids]

oh shit u right mb og

[distant relic]

This game sucks less

[rustic totem]

Its actually been reverted?

[toxic timber]

damn

[prisma rapids]

yeah def

[rustic totem]

Finally warring gonna be fun again

Actually not even fun, possible

[prisma rapids]

i mean its only been like a day

[rustic totem]

And in that day warring died

Well, except ffa

[dire yarrow]

WE’RE BACK

[viral heron]

yessss

[naive mauve]

NO surprise.
to reduce the cap more was so stupid obviously

[full orchid]

nc fixed

[opal bear]

WOOOO

[devout cairn]

GOD BLESS THE CT

https://tenor.com/view/orphion-uwu-orphion-wynncraft-headpat-orphion-headpat-gif-19422878

[fiery geyser]

absolute king

[rich burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

[main axle]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dragon-gif-1310919070073587715

[nova girder]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/nrzXBRYowpqv2hvmYgtUcjAwmsd0BcPRZUaOEBUaoYI/https/media.tenor.com/-9lHctoXbJkAAAPo/toothless-toothless-dragon.mp4

[rancid siren]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

[devout cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

[iron wagon]

the only way to do that is to ban all macros including basic 3 button skill macros

but ye this is way too invasive for even "normal" gameplay

[arctic kindle]

I think you’re not very creative

[iron wagon]

they could deligate more hotbar slots to be used for skills xD

like they did for the 3 UIs

[unique kelp]

how would you even enforce that

[iron wagon]

the same way every other game checks for macros lel

[unique kelp]

?? with randomised delay there is literally no way for a server to distinguish between macros and normal clicking

[iron wagon]

probably idk

[dense sigil]

so with low level anticheat programs that run before the os starts

[iron wagon]

no clue xD

pretty sure wrong chat

[rustic totem]

yeah

im stupid
thanks for warning

[iron wagon]

np

[dense sigil]

well that is how most games do it, because as mentioned previously adding a random delay makes it very difficult to identify a macro with only server side logic