"Practice" Mode for Raids

[storm lava]

"if a room can't be completed with 1 person it gets removed or modified in some way, like TCC only needing 1 person instead of two"
this will definitely help people practice soul shrub room

[sullen fern]

why dont u just practice in a real raid

[opal hazel]

bro op spent like half the post explaining that

[sullen fern]

its so longgg :/ and also why do u care about other ppl in pfinder? they signed up for it when they used /pfinder

and if u really want to play optimally u prob arent playing in pfinder anyway

and if ur spending the time to practice in tna ur probably already better than the average pfinder player so ur not really throwing

[opal hazel]

still, you shouldn't have to risk messing up other player's raid just so you can try out a build

[sullen fern]

yeah but this seems like it would take a whole lot of dev time so some people can go from killing the boss in 6.3 seconds to 6.1

i just really dont think this is a good use of dev time

[opal hazel]

true

yeah i agree with that, it's probably not worth the ct and dev's time to make it when it might add much to the game

[safe jasper]

even if people like this idea I’m pretty sure this is something ct specifically say would never be added

[opal hazel]

rip

[tender frost]

itd be cool yeah but i dont think anyone would make it

you just gotta find a chill party and practice with them

or with friends if u have those

[crisp bronze]

this was a suggestion before

i dont think its worth the effort to make it

[plucky ridge]

yeah this is just solved by having friends

either your whole party messes up and its ok, or u have 2+ people just carrying, only in the case where its 1 player who can consistently pull though this would even be an issue

[hazy mirage]

if a room can’t be completed with 1 person
So like 95% of the goddamn rooms

it gets removed or modified
Modifying it only makes it not the room anymore

At that point are you really practicing for the raid

[crisp vessel]

no thanks i don't want tna to become hypixel skyblock where people spend 10hrs perfecting secrets in one room then expect others to have that standard

[smoky plinth]

im already expecting how to bridge or berry

or just how the raid works

[fringe thistle]

Maybe but it would be a kind of fun endgame activity to just solo a raid boss whenever you want to even if it doesn’t give rewards

Sure you could do that already, but you have to either ask your party or hope they suck majorly

This would also provide a way to test builds outside of a training dummy or hoping for the best in TNA or LRs

[rigid swan]

most of these things are already standard, like ethereal root + void hole spawns, berry chain, soul stacking + tree nav, light skip + shadow spawns + rock, bulb rock, and aggro prio in boss

fortunately this isn’t a lot to remember and none of it is particularly niche or situational

[crisp vessel]

that is no way near the skyblock standard, that is basic stuff people can learn from playing

i am worried that optimization will go way too far to the point it becomes the norm

because practice is a thing but perfecting stuff is another

[rigid swan]

yup exactly, and at the same time there isn’t like that much that people expect from what I can see

[rigid swan]

i doubt it’ll ever go that far tbh but maybe im wrong, tna is inherently not a very complex or deep raid

[crisp vessel]

it's hard to imagine because the optimization is not here yet, but let's say some top tna players figure out the best way to do light

then they optimize it so it takes the least time possible, least click possible

so 2 charges to get to this rock, then 3 charges to the left, then 4 charges to the right

[rigid swan]

oh you mean like that ic

[crisp vessel]

with precise numbers and everything

[odd solar]

good post but dev time

[burnt quarry]

sounds horrifying