make a hunter's calling a one-time completion for toggling pvp

[ebon light]

this quest is the longest in the game, and it is required to participate in one of the most fun parts of wynncraft (pvp). similar requirements for other endgame content (eg tcc) have already been lifted, so i dont understand why we have to slog through AHC just to get to pvp?

to be honest, there is a huge incentive to do AHC even without unlocking pvp as a reward- having every piece of ornate shadow makes life so fucking nice for when you arent trying to swap every time and lose your powders

if toggling pvp at low levels for big xp gains is a problem, why not just make it so you can only toggle at 105?

also dont give me the lore excuse, if that were the case we should reinstate the breaking point requirement for every class to access tcc right?

[errant matrix]

ainno way you called pvp one of the most fun parts of Wynncraft ....

[ebon light]

pissing off lost runescape players is an awesome way to pass the time, dont knock it till you try it

[slim silo]

Me when I get oneshot because average max level spell damage is higher than average player health

[brisk turret]

i want what you're shmokin!

[brisk turret]

LMFAO had the same idea

[brave sierra]

honestly hunted could be pretty good without too much effort

[brisk turret]

👀

🫵

[barren phoenix]

Wouldnt this just ruin the point of Perma-hunted

[brave sierra]

listen. if i could i would have

[brisk turret]

lolol

[blissful briar]

I LOVE MAKING PROFFERS MAD

🔥

[slim silo]

Perma hunted is a challenge because you’re permanently hunted mode, having a toggle at the start of the game for hunted and perma hunted are different things

It’s like flagging for PVP vs permanently being PVP

[barren phoenix]

Yea but some people (idk) might pick perma hunted just for the exp bonus and not for the sake of the challenge

[slim silo]

I mean ig? That’s not really the main point of it as having a perma hunted class doesn’t seem particularly fun endgame wise unless you really enjoy Wynn PvP

And I doubt that’s why most perma hunted classes exist

[barren phoenix]

With OP's changes, you can now make a class, toggle pvp to level faster, then as fast as you get hunted you turn it off, and only turns it back on when the hunter is gone

[ebon light]

a lot of people have low level hunteds to snipe hichs and the like, it’s also fun to just have a perma hunted mode class but as I mentioned the main solution to this issue would just be make hunted toggle able at 105 and not before

[slim silo]

Yea having to do AHC just for Hunted on every class is annoying

[barren phoenix]

Oh yea true, im both upvoting and downvoting now

[blissful briar]

permahunyed 🔥🔥🔥

[ebon light]

sorry I should be more clear- non hunted locked classes should be unable to toggle pvp on until 105

[barren phoenix]

I somehow missed the 105 part

[ebon light]

classes that start hunted should not be able to toggle off ever

[slim silo]

I think toggleable hunted in early levels could be fun if it was reworked to not give the xp rewards until AHC or something

[blissful briar]

absolutely no

[ebon light]

AHC on every class is just 🫥

[slim silo]

Obviously would suck for HICH but low level pvp is fun in MMOs I’ve tried it in

[blissful briar]

then make a perma hunted

[ebon light]

it’s so anti fun and ornate is already so good as a reward considering almost every hunted build uses it as a slap piece

[blissful briar]

like making a low level hunted class is so easy

i think i got an assassin to 37 in less than an hour

prob under thirty minutes

[slim silo]

I feel that it’s weird to only unlock world PvP after you’ve already hit endgame

[blissful briar]

that’s why permahunted classes exist

[slim silo]

Still have to reach endgame to unlock perma hunted bud

[blissful briar]

womp womp

[verbal notch]

It doesnt even take that long in 2 hours you can pmuch do the quest and all required quests for ahc. Considering most people that unlock hunted mode use it later on for way longer and other parts are way more grindy it’s a fair effort. I did it 16 times it’s not that bad. I do think when you can use hunted (toggleable, permahunted) is pretty well designed. That does not mean that hunted PvP itself is well designed (as others already mentioned)

The only thing I would wish is that permahunted players can do ahc for the option to convert their class into a normal class. That would be a nice qol feature

[slim silo]

A 2 hour chore is still a chore

[ebon light]

that it “only takes 2 hours” doesn’t somehow make having to redo it every time you want to play pvp on a new class less tedious

i think this change alone could add a lot of new life into hunted, even if nothing else changed

[verbal notch]

what even is hunted apart from killing people that grind?

[slim silo]

For 5 seconds before everyone realizes it’s still Hunted mode which means it’s still oneshot city

Hunted is just flawed

Most people don’t wanna get oneshot by a stray archer arrow storm arrow

[ebon light]

for shits and giggles? i mean why should it matter, its like wildy pvp in rs

[fiery trench]

it's baiting people into enabling it so they can have a more frustrating experience

[slim silo]

“50% more xp for FREE!!!!!!”

[forest stirrup]

The fact that someone finds guilds AND hunted some of the best content in the game is really throwing me after this much time in Wynncord

But yeah sure we make it like a TCC crystal, lower the barrier to entry

[ebon light]

people realize that content which involves interacting with other human beings is actualyl really fun in an mmorpg

granted im probably the only one who thinks pvp in wynn is kinda cool but sue me i guess

[forest stirrup]

Your honor that is LIBEL

lot of people think Wynn pvp is cool as shit, it's just the lack of players and balance issues that throw it

Including me

[slim silo]

Guilds are fine, Guild Wars a not fine

[ebon light]

i meant even in its current state, i think the concept of "person who sees other person first wins" is a really unique idea tbh kinda like quake

[forest stirrup]

I love quake craft ❤️

[ebon light]

i think some things could be changed and improved but i genuinely think that a fast paced twitchy pvp system is a really unique base that shouldnt be completely changed, which is a great opinion to hold beacuse ct said they dont give a shit about hunted anyways iirc

if it just turned into "now spells do 10x less dmg, have fun slugging it out over a minute" that would feel too generic

[forest stirrup]

I really want hunted to work, I just wish either the player mentality changed or the gamemode was more active

I really camped out grind spots for a week to find a player to harass

Then got my ass kicked by a hich player

10/10 experience, would level class to do it again

[split leaf]

Based feedback 👍 Making Hunted more accessible would hopefully add more hunted enjoyers to the game (and hopefully encourage a rework to make it a repeatable and fun endgame activity 😳) AHC is one of my favorite quests but I can see why it becomes such a chore. Still holding out hope that a PVP rework will one day become a major update

[ebon light]

i still think ahc is a super cool quest!! like how breaking point is a super cool quest but it should not be a tcc requirement for every class

[split leaf]

yup!

[dense mulch]

yeaa it does get boring after like two times because you already know whats gonna happen

i mean breaking point on every class is doable but AHC aw hell naw

well my goal is to get evry class with every quest done anyway sooooooo yea i dont tihnk im ever gonna reach it

i mean jsut do every quest on your main then just do ROL1 the corkus questline since its actually fun then do DandD because that fun too and do the breaking point and then journey beyond and further on other classes

[ebon light]

honestly i dont think rol shoul;d be a requirement eitehr but thats less of an issue since dvis is so fucking good that everyone should be doing rol 1-5 just for it anyways

[coral sequoia]

Ahc should be extra hard

[torpid robin]

https://forums.wynncraft.com/forums/general-suggestions.69/

[ebon light]

so what constitutes the diff between feedback and suggestion, and what is the point of this forum then if not to make suggestions on what can change (like changing hunted requirements)

[true umbra]

the difference is when youre wrong and im right

and because i think your suggestion is wrong u should post in the forum because nobody looks at the forums and i dont need to see the suggestion in the wynncraft discord that i look at

we dont speculate good thought provoking ideas here

[ebon light]

my bad

[fiery trench]

the difference is that this channel is a joke and should be taken as such : ^)

[coral sequoia]

No one is joking

[brave sierra]

yeah this would be awful

mainly cuz mobility is so fucking high

atm all 5 classes r playable in pvp some with more room for at customization than others but like

you can basically run anything and have it work some of the time

[errant matrix]

it isn't

[barren phoenix]

I think he is aware of that and thats why he used it as an example

[ebon light]

do you mean ahc isn’t a cool quest or tbp isn’t required for tcc?

[errant matrix]

TBP isn't required on all classes

[barren phoenix]

We do not accept AHC slander

[ebon light]

i know, that’s why i used it as an example of “long but interesting quest that’s optional after the first completion for unlocking some game mechanics”

to demonstrate how making AHC optional after the first go about has some precedent

[slim silo]

AHC is cool but there’s a reason I only did it on my Archer

[errant matrix]

urelix section is outdated

[barren phoenix]

Thats fair

[acoustic niche]

What makes it outdated?

Is the terrain wrong?

[slim silo]

It doesn’t feature the best Wynn character ever: Gobberton, so it’s immediately invalidated

[slim umbra]

light mode user makes my eyes hurt

[brisk turret]

discord must make your brain hurt

[slim umbra]

it does

[brisk turret]

click on their profile

[slim umbra]

i did it wasn’t light mode for me

[brisk turret]

HUH

[slim umbra]

mobile

[brisk turret]

oh

[slim umbra]

also heavy lag

[brisk turret]

well I am not the light mode user, so don't blame me

[slim umbra]

now it’s working fine, sorry lol

[brisk turret]

lolol

[slim umbra]

have a good day/night, non light mode user