Guild Housing

[narrow gale]

ok so i have two primary issues with guild housing i wanna address here:

1 - the entrance is even
this makes it harder to center structures in the middle of the housing

proposed solution: make the entrance editable, or maybe let the players choose a spawn point in their housing (balloon is always next to spawn location)

2 - guild housing location
right now the supposed method of obtaining housing locations according to the GUI is by "playing through guild seasons"

the issue here is that, throughout all 16 seasons there has never been once a season where you could get a guild housing location as a reward from seasons
tl;dr: guild housing locations are unobtainable

proposed solution: make them obtainable?? add them to season rewards (or guild level rewards, just make them obtainable please)

did i cook ?? let me know in the comments down below

ignore the weird background in my screenshot, i have bobby and it interacts weird with housings

[gilded flower]

also yeah point one is so true i hate who ever made it not aligned

[narrow gale]

what about point two?

[gilded flower]

part two is just another part of my post that i didnt add, basically they NEVER do anything related to guilds and that sucks

[narrow gale]

bro agrees then mammoth reacts

incredible

[tough relic]

💤

[narrow gale]

what is the meaning of this message

[lean parcel]

I think it’s probably cuz it’s a good idea but it’s more minuscule compared to other feedback (or in other words: too much dev time)

[narrow gale]

yea

[winged stirrup]

i find it hilarious that they just casually wrote a promise of adding guild stuff into an in game tooltip and then never added that content

[velvet pond]

just build one block to the side

[fiery aspen]

The uneven entrance has caused me so much pain, however at this point fixing it won’t help because a lot of guilds have already build to accommodate the even placement

[velvet pond]

or make the structure assymetrical if you're not a coward

[velvet pond]

Have you considered that backgrounds may not be implemented yet

[winged stirrup]

in-game tooltip explaining how to use a feature that doesnt even exist 🤯

[narrow gale]

kind of Not Genius to add a GUI and an ingame tooltip for them if they havent even been implemented yet

[winged stirrup]

you might as well add a tome slot saying "kill the dern beast to unlock this tome slot"

[narrow gale]

☝️ like... if its not implemented... dont add it?

[gilded flower]

me when i add a menu to a thing that dont exist? 😭

content team has so much potential guys they can think so much

[velvet pond]

yea guys youre right i guess we should get rid of the dern portal and the fruma gate as well

[gilded flower]

thats totally different wtf

adding a useless menu wont add up anything to the gameplay

[velvet pond]

i get what youre trying to say but

you used the wrong word. gameplay isn't affected by the fruma gate being there either

[gilded flower]

it does on the lore tho

[velvet pond]

lore is story and not gameplay

[gilded flower]

but atleast is something

a menu for nothing is literally useless since guild stuff isnt even real beacuse no one updates guild content

[winged stirrup]

whelp i guess quest dialogue (story) isnt gameplay anymore, time to delete the quest dialogue system

[winged stirrup]

fine heres a better example then. you know how the cosmetics page has a slot for every armor slot? this is like adding a hover tooltip for chestplate, leggings and boots that says "unlock more armor skins by participating in guild seasons" when the game doesnt even have armor skins

"its just not implemented ||in minecraft|| yet"

[velvet pond]

[narrow gale]

man lets not go off topic here

[gilded flower]

i do no care haters have to hate 🔥

[rancid drift]

FUCK 2 BLOCK CENTER

[narrow gale]

On god

[pearl orbit]

if i could upvote this post multiple times, i would

[mystic raven]

is this satire

cause theres no way that can be used as a comparison

[gilded flower]

Even another content mf agrees on how dumb that was

[frosty flame]

2 block center my beloathed 😭

[exotic yoke]

avg madeline take

[jagged sleet]

how do you compare upcoming content to an unused menu

[velvet pond]

It's an over exaggeration

A joke more than an argument

[velvet pond]

I almost wrote something different to reply but then I saw your bio has a transphobic joke, so I'm not going to bother

[gilded flower]

say something > its stupid > get called as an stupid point > say its a joke

[jagged sleet]

that didn’t come off as satire or over exaggeration

[velvet pond]

im not as dumb as you people think i am

Im just bad at articulating emotions and stuff and bad at interpreting it

I intended it as a joke

[orchid coyote]

Fr? Ong? No cap?

[winter kayak]

Seems fine tbh
Was quite a popular joke back in like, 2015

Unless they changed it within the last few days in which case whoops sorry lol

[velvet pond]

Its a joke that doesn't incorporate trans people into the audience who laughs at it, but makes them the butt of the joke. its laughing not alongside them, but at them.

[winged stirrup]

or you can string it another way and say that its an ironic joke that is laughing at people who make that joke to look down at trans people. you cant know for sure on the internet

jokes are weird, why bother caring

and at this point we enter the realm of semantics, but lets say somebody's online persona is a cat OC, and they put in their bio that they are a cat. is assuming that they are making a joke at trans people's expense still the right thing to do? or is doing so discrimination against people who do online roleplay?

(to clarify before i get blocked by madeline, i am on noones side here. assuming its meant as a joke, poke shouldnt be joking about sensitive stuff because sensitive stuff is sensitive. but we shouldnt be automatically assuming ill intent without the person's prior input either)

[gilded flower]

this thread is really about guild housing

[winter shuttle]

helicopters in housing sounds dope tbh

[analog agate]

me when i cannot center allign

literally game breaking @keen wren

[frosty flame]

just because something was a common popular joke 10 years ago doesnt mean its funny today

[winter kayak]

Sorry
Haven't been caught up with that particular joke

[velvet pond]

Because they can be hurtful to vulnerable communities and spread stereotypes and hatred

[velvet pond]

No, however the "I identify as an attack helicopter" thing was a joke made with the intent of making fun of trans people's gender identities, basically saying that identifying as anything but what was assigned to you at birth is as ridiculous as saying that you are an attack helicopter

It ties into the argument that passed around those against trans rights (and still does) that trans people shouldn't be accommodated for because "why would you have to give somebody who identifies as a cat a litter box" when that isn't even remotely close to non binary identities

To the point that it could be satirizing those people who make that joke, there is zero implication of satire.

Ultimately people will see it and it'll just contribute to the seemingly interminable burden of transphobia because there's zero evidence it's satirizing transphobia and not just adding to it.

[velvet pond]

If I automatically assumed ill intent I would've filed a report to have them removed from the community, which I did not.

[gilded flower]

removed from the community beacuse of a joke that no one is being offended off

this really tells much about content team deusphage

[frosty flame]

did u even read

[gilded flower]

yes

[winged stirrup]

the whole point of jokes is to laugh at the quirks of life. if you impose restrictions on jokes eventually all jokes are illegal and nothing is funny

(to be extra clear, no i am not endorsing poke's joke, nor am i saying it is funny. i just think that forcing jokes to toe the political correctness line so tightly is unhealthy and not sustainable)

[winged stirrup]

if your reaction if you automatically assume ill intent is to report them and get them removed from the server, then what exactly is your intention by publicly confronting them over their bio?

[velvet pond]

Hate to break it to you, but that isn't the case

[velvet pond]

By your logic, if someone made a racist joke that we shouldn't be able to punish that. If you take a step back this statement is very evidently flawed

It's against server rules. If you're racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, or are in any way bigoted, you'll get removed. That's both the case here and in game.

[velvet pond]

To either confirm my suspicion or have them recognize the issue and change it

[velvet pond]

It does! It shows that I want to ensure that those most vulnerable in society who don't have many safe spaces can feel comfortable in our community.

[gilded flower]

wasnt you the person that tought it was alright to post someones ip and tell where they live in #🌎wynncraft beacuse if its public its fine

[velvet pond]

I did. I don't condone it, I've talked about it being wrong and why it was wrong

That doesn't change any of what I've said. An immature action of mine that my own frustration with griefing made me blind to seeing it as harmful

Just as I don't expect someone who is transphobic to be malicious, but instead coming from a place of no or minimal understanding

I think your choice to point towards a mistake as opposed to actually considering what I have to say 'tells much about wynncraft user mocomochi'

[gilded flower]

really does tell much about user mocomochi but yeah you are right

[frosty flame]

"I am going to pull up an entirely unrelated incident to change the topic because I don't know how to respond to what I am actually being told"

[gilded flower]

i was too lazy to yapp today my bad samsam

[winged stirrup]

no, that's not what i said. i said we shouldnt be so strict, not that we should have no regulation whatsoever.

political correctness has gotten to the point where its cultural appropriation to make a joke in a language you arent a native speaker for, and racist to make a joke poking at your own cultural practices

[velvet pond]

That's not my ideology, nor is that against the rules of the server

Being bigoted however, is, which extends to jokes made at the expense of marginalized communities or where the punchline is just some form of xenophobia

[orchid coyote]

word

i did not know all this was considered guild housing

[winged stirrup]

most on topic wynncraft thread

[winter shuttle]

it bothers me so much when people try to convince one another what another person meant when they say something, I feel like it is a ridiculously easy flaw of communication to overcome, yet people would rather have long discussions about what words, statements, or jokes mean what things instead of asking the person who made that statement

[winged stirrup]

true, but it was their bio, not a statement. my issue wasnt with what their bio meant, but the fact that we're even reading the bio, making assumptions and judging them so hard for it

[narrow gale]

Holy fucking shit

If you're bothered that much ping the mods??? This completely derailed the topic of this thread

Fuck it imma do it myself

<@&268142859327242242> fetch me their souls

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[normal granite]

this is a feedback thread for housing, if you guys feel the need to squabble, use dms

[narrow gale]

☝️

[gilded flower]

closier really pinged the moderators for fucking nothing like what the hell they gonna do they cant stop the yapping

[narrow gale]

They are the only people that can stop the yapping wtf do u mean 💀 💀

Stop derailing the topic of this thread I'm not gonna yap and troll with you here

[velvet pond]

No, because I didn't want them to be muted or banned

[velvet pond]

If you read over what I said I didn't say that the person was necessarily doing it with intention, but that the joke is an inherently a transphobic one, and there was no sign of it being satire

anyways. Guild housing.

[tribal folio]

Then please speak to them somewhere else 😭

This isn’t the first thread where this has happened, with the same guy

[velvet pond]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-word-rain-world-rain-world-rivulet-rain-world-plushie-rivulet-gif-698748168586831075

[tribal folio]

Me

[winter shuttle]

Oh yeah, let discuss if guild housing entrance should be even or odd number of blocks. Surely thread will get back on track if i remind people whats at stake!

[gray helm]

not knockoff rivulet

[orchid coyote]

Awesome dodge