I've been thinking about this for a while, why does wynncraft use right and left clicks to input spells? It was charming at first, really feeling like doing magic, but seeing as many lategame builds try to spam spells as fast as possible it makes me reluctant to ever do spell builds (i don't want to use macros or break my hands).
An option I thought about was using inventory slots, and I want to pitch that idea a bit, even thought i'm sure it was considered at some point.
Currently we have 6 hotbar slots available, and it is rare to see more than 4 of them used by players. Thanks to the leaked info that Fruma will remove the soul points, content book, and the compass (could just place them in the main inventory), that would leave us with 5+ slots that could be used for spells.
Selecting the weapon would work the same way, but then pressing a designated button for a spell-reserved slot would switch you back to the weapon (could maybe be done through 'eating' the input, so powder specials and spells don't despawn), followed up by the spell cast.
This would make spells smoother, cycle out the need for mods/macros, give more room to add activatable abilities (no longer limited by 4 slots), and improve new player experience.
I think it would also be easier to expand on this system in the future than on the current one, which might open wynncraft to much more advanced and flexible ability trees and as such greater build diversity.
#3 inputs to cast a spell
grand chasm
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finite orbit
it's cool in theory
grand chasm
a game theory
finite orbit
reminds me of Hypixel warlords. the one good Hypixel game
but I imagine that this is going to, more often than not, lead to items being glitched out of existence
Also seems like it would completely kill dual wielding
grand chasm
dual wielding fruma leak 👀
finite orbit
Also if you're already on
--This is actually the main issue lmfao--
If you press the key to cast the spell, if you press it again nothing will happen
Like if I press 1 to heal and then press 1 again the game can't detect that
coarse moth
ohh that makes sense
finite orbit
Id have to press another key to cast a different spell to then cast the spell again
coarse moth
idk just lobby the minecraft devs I spent enough money on crates
grand chasm
cant you force the player to select a slot in their inventory?
finite orbit
cant you force the player to select a slot in their inventory?
Nope!
coarse moth
lameeee
grand chasm
damn
finite orbit
If you could we would for dialogue trees
coarse moth
it would be so much nicer
finite orbit
Cool idea so I can't bring myself to 
it, and it's not a 
post
coarse moth
Ups if it was mechanically possible
finite orbit
so uh. Have a 🥙
coarse moth
finite orbit
gyro reaction
coarse moth
how about we remove spells from ass, archer, warrior and make shaman/mage ONLY able to cast spells no weapon!
ez
grand chasm
grand chasm
gorgeous
coarse moth
also just the geometry of using WASD mouse, and 789 (spell casting keys I would assume) would not work unless u got 3 hands
fiery jewel
using numbers to spam spells would feel so bad.. i'd much rather some more standard keys like Q R T FG etc
grand chasm
what if after selecting a slot it:
remembers what weapon you are using, since you stay on that slot
activates the ability once
right-clicking (or left for archer) attempts to re-cast the same spell
grand chasm
using numbers to spam spells would feel so bad.. i'd much rather some more stand...
they are bindable, same as macros
grand chasm
what if after selecting a slot it:
remembers what weapon you are using, since yo...
@finite orbit thoughts?
fiery jewel
Like if I press 1 to heal and then press 1 again the game can't detect that
that does seem like an issue
grand chasm
it is definetly clunkier with switching weapons
finite orbit
Holy fuck I love this image
grand chasm
Holy fuck I love this image
new emote
finite orbit
that does seem like an issue
What if you want to cast the same spell twice
fiery jewel
i feel like an easier solution would be in built macros that work like artemis but maybe a bit smoother so they dont break if u try to spam too much
finite orbit
Also I'd like to add that this is harder for your fingers. Your hand is already on your mouse/trackpad to input right and left clicks, but using numpad requires you to use your WASD hand which is 
finite orbit
i feel like an easier solution would be in built macros that work like artemis b...
vanilla minecraft, mind you
grand chasm
Also I'd like to add that this is harder for your fingers. Your hand is already ...
im not saying to remove the current system, i think it could go hand-in-hand
finite orbit
mmnnmmm
fiery jewel
vanilla minecraft, mind you
the entire wynncraft is made on vanilla wynncraft wdym, surely its not impossible
finite orbit
I'm not opposed, however there's the issue that plagues basically all posts here:
Dev time
grand chasm
hire me, i can make coffee
finite orbit
the entire wynncraft is made on vanilla wynncraft wdym, surely its not impossibl...
You can do crazy stuff with vanilla, but it also has a lot of limitations that are Very stupid
finite orbit
Above I talked about how it can't detect numpad inputs if the last input was the same as the current one, and you cant force the player to select a certain hot bar slot
winged merlin
ig that fixes spell penalty since you cant cast multiple of the same spell in a row :)
worldly jungle
Like if I press 1 to heal and then press 1 again the game can't detect that
You can make so that it switches back to slot 5 auto
winged merlin
good idea, however i think the game is far too fletched out for that
monumenta uses a different system where rclick, drop, offhand swap, shift+leftclick, look at enemy and rclick, look down and rclick all trigger different spells
but uh yea
i think wynn is fine with the current system
finite orbit
You can make so that it switches back to slot 5 auto
No you cannot oh my god
I've said thrice now that we cannot move the player's selected hotbar slot
And if we could, we would for dialogue trees
worldly jungle
No you cannot oh my god
Theres literally another server where you can do that?
grand chasm
press 1 to get jumpscared
subtle vortex
Theres literally another server where you can do that?
source: trust me bro
worldly jungle
source: trust me bro
Huh?
subtle vortex
what server bru
worldly jungle
Idk if that counts as advertising
grand chasm
my server has that feature and many nore! join 182.33.12.3:25565!
worldly jungle
my server has that feature and many nore! join 182.33.12.3:25565!
Give me 7 hours and ill join! 
vast nimbus
warlords spell casting?!?!?!
finite orbit
Theres literally another server where you can do that?
mobile discord wont send messages. we cant
maybe when we update and drop 1.12 this month we'll be able to
worldly jungle
Oh alright
pine spear
i like casting with my mouse
grand chasm
you could have both
carmine pecan
overreact much?
silent plover
finite orbit
mobile discord wont send messages. *we* cant
I sent that like 2 hours ago
thank you discord
worldly jungle
I sent that like 2 hours ago
Did you get the mobile update or is it always like that
finite orbit
Did you get the mobile update or is it always like that
I don't know why it did that
It just shit itself and gave my messages a 2 hour delay
winged merlin
happens when bad internet sometimes
finite orbit
Idk maybe when we update and drop 1.12 this month we'll be able to
grizzled bear
Id have to press another key to cast a different spell to then cast the spell ag...
It works in other games because pressing the key instantly casts the spell, in MC it’s harder to do that
still cypress
Nope!
I mean, this might not be possible in current Wynncraft but it sure is possible
Couple years back I played on a server called Potterworld, which was essentially a Harry Potter-themed server
Clicking the wand you have with you immediately replaces the other 8 slots with spell icons as items, which you can than tap your number keys to select the spells
The game then immediately forces the selection back to your wand slot after with the chosen spell now picked
Point is it's a very possible mechanic should Wynncraft choose to code it in
Within the bounds of Minecraft plugins, I mean
Actually wait how that I think about it
Doesn't dialogue already do this
It brings the selection back to your original slot when you tap a number to pick a dialogue option
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That being said, I'm not fond of this suggestion
I've played the server in question for ages, and I can personally confirm that it is an absolute pain to press number keys constantly during battle
Especially the number keys furthest from the WASD keys
young dome
That seems vastly annoying, such a system would require wand tap with mouse, spell select on num and then cast, no less action per spell
While needing a less ergonomic movement, no less
Not to mention, numpads are FAR from universal on people's keyboards. Now its very common for keyboard to not have numpad and only numrow, and thats not even mentioning the myriad of peeps who play on laptop keyboards, while a mouse is plenty universal in a game such as this
simple wigeon
young dome
Yeppers, it only works in other MMOs because they either have mouse based movements, or big GCD between spell/ability casts
The former is not applicable to Minecraft in general, and the ltter runs counter to the general design space of spellwork in Wynncraft
Fundamentally it us not a bad idea at all, is just that the suggestion for implementation thus far all seems suboptimal or infeasible
grizzled bear
Yeppers, it only works in other MMOs because they either have mouse based moveme...
Honestly you’d be surprised by how mobile you can be in an MMO with number based keys
Although I generally have it bound to 1-5 and QERTY instead of 1-10
pine spear
you could have both
oh i uh
ok i’m dumb af, well if this kind of update is optional and has no effect on my gameplay i.e i can use the compass and stuff in the hotbar than that’s ok
finite orbit
yeah you can
with our current version? why do we not use that at all, especially for the dialogue trees? (unless the misinformation is this)
grand chasm
Dialogue thing is from wynntills
onyx heart
I'm pretty sure if you download the wyntlis mod or whatever it allows u to hotkey your spells
So no need to break your hands lol
finite orbit
Dialogue thing is from wynntills
Dialogue trees are from the normal game...?
tired canopy
xd
mighty scaffold
with our current version? why do we not use that at all, especially for the dial...
because that is irrelevant for dialogues, you can have infinite options
so even if i switch the player hand to slot 9 i would be blocking the 9th option either way
grand chasm
Dialogue trees are from the normal game...?
wynntills has a thing where you click a number to select an option, no?
finite orbit
wynntills has a thing where you click a number to select an option, no?
That's vanilla 😭
grand chasm
oh
finite orbit
that is the base game 😭😭😭
grand chasm
i thought wynntills because it bounces back after you select an option, and you said you cant do that
final phoenix
I've been thinking about this for a while, why does wynncraft use right and left...
complete cancer (starsign)
grand chasm
complete cancer (starsign)
people use marcos the same way
final phoenix
people use marcos the same way
i dont, and i dont want to
and i dont want to give up my hotbar slots either for some bullshit like that, cuz i actually use them
worldly jungle
The left-right click spell system is probably the result of back then having less options for spells
final phoenix
i think its more fun that way anyway
doubt the game would even be enjoyable at all with hotkeys for spells
worldly jungle
Ive always felt wynn combat being awkward since spells doesnt have cooldowns
But in other servers with the hotbar system it feels really good for me
carmine pecan
i’ve always loved wynn’s unique system
final phoenix
spell cooldowns would be so awkward
carmine pecan
no cooldowns in so much better than… with cooldowns
final phoenix
couldn't tell you of a single good game with spell cooldowns (pve ofc)
besides games that really dont base their combat solely on spells
fiery jewel
doubt the game would even be enjoyable at all with hotkeys for spells
agreed, ive tried playing with macro hotkeys and i cant stand it
torpid maple
but I imagine that this is going to, more often than not, lead to items being gl...
litterally what ends up happening in hypixel lol
subtle perch
grand chasm
melee supremacy
torpid maple
xD
languid hinge
I have played on servers with inventory input and it was not great
torpid maple
ye
finite orbit
litterally what ends up happening in hypixel lol
torpid maple
https://tenor.com/view/hypixel-skyblock-glitch-bug-dev-gif-26639311
i love when that happens lol
finite orbit
ngl the bedrock texturing into the cyan teracotta and gray wool goes kind of hard though
torpid maple
true
finite orbit
i am not a very big of hsb builds but their usage of bedrock is cool
underutilized building block
carmine pecan
why doesn’t wynn use it more?
carmine pecan
or is it rerextured to look like a unique block
torpid maple
xD
finite orbit
why doesn’t wynn use it more?
we do
carmine pecan
o
finite orbit
finite orbit
frosty elk
it's retextured in wynn
finite orbit
bozonian
basically all blocks are rexextured
he only one that isn't is like
dark prismarine lmfao
torpid maple
lol
finite orbit
wait no
also teracotta, glazed terracotta, and concrete
but those are because they're already good as is
carmine pecan
bozonian
oooh gotcha. also yes i knew obviously it wouldnt look like its vanilla texture, i meant more like "has it been retextured to look like something COMPLETELY different"
like how, what, brick slabs I think are turned into dirt slabs?
that sort of thing
still cypress
And sponges
olive summit
Terminus Player Detected
still cypress
Terminus Player Detected
Wot
languid hinge
also if devs did tie up spell casting to hotbar there's like 95% chance that new inventory bug will show up that would be bandaid fixed
novel light
I've been thinking about this for a while, why does wynncraft use right and left...
What fruma leaked info?
like where was it said?
coarse moth
Check #fruma
finite orbit
What fruma leaked info?
It's a joke
Soul points are intended to be removed at some point
But the content book and character menu is staying
languid hinge
But the content book and character menu is staying
Bugs related to it too? Ong? Fr?
lilac gull
3 keys for spell is like bane of wynncraft
Though it can be sometimes annoying (especially with lag) I wouldn't have it other way
languid hinge
3 keys for spell is like bane of wynncraft
Though it can be sometimes annoying (...
Imagine hotbar casting deleting your items occassionally