#Powder specials should charge with spells as well
soft pond
wide sun
Multihit, anything that is Boltslinger, Acrobat ;-;
swift moon
this is wild 😭
peak sandal
but like
how would u scale it
ignoring how busted spell spam will be. this isn't practical at all
manic nexus
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no
ornate hatch
what these guys said 
soft pond
Maybe it could be a certain percentage of the main attack
peak sandal
Multihit, anything that is Boltslinger, Acrobat ;-;
smoke bomb, air shout, acrobat spins
manic nexus
it could be nothing at all, cuz itd be way too strong, especially for melee classes
peak sandal
Maybe it could be a certain percentage of the main attack
so people would use super slow with spells
congrats, you made aphotic more popular
soft pond
I mean otherwise if you play classes that do spellspam you just have to stop doing spells, go towards an enemy and hit it 10 times dealing no damage
Or you know whatever the weapon speed is
manic nexus
u do it while cycling spells, or regenerating / stealing mana
and u always want to be close as melee, and as ranged u do not need to get close anyway
peak sandal
you can combine melee while cycling
soft pond
Fair enough
peak sandal
I can barely cycle yet i manage to sneak in a few melees
celest lion
The way powders charge with melee is that they always activate at the same general time, regardless of how fast your attack speed is
If spells charged powder effects, it would be a tad busted since there's no cooldown on casting spells
wide sun
Idea
manic nexus
theyre already good
bold epoch
wind prison in question
solid canopy
wind prison is only really usable with shadestepper and that is hard too
bold epoch
it forces you to play solo in a server that promotes multiplayer in end game
even then, it’s bad when solo
peak sandal
honestly they should make it so wind prison only activates after the person who used attacks
so their attack would be buffed
bold epoch
make it a debuff effect that’s only affected by the caster
same behavior as marks and winded
peak sandal
Yeah
sinful harbor
mmmm Triple PZ totems, totally wouldn't've just instantly get it up
crystal slate
The way powders charge with melee is that they always activate at the same gener...
erm just make a cooldown to how often u can charge powder?
granite wave
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abstract shadow
powder specials exist to FUCKING BUFF MELEE PLAYERS
keep your spellspam ass away from my chain lighting
minor bay
i agree
dull kite
the actual topic of the thread: no
but there is room for discussion about powder specials themselves. how quake and chain lightning only really benefit melee (aside from life/manasteal)
and how wind prison is useful for max 2 specific build+archetype combos 
and that's being optimistic, the use cases being shadestepper or heavy melee sharpshooter where you somehow opt to powder air instead of earth
solid canopy
spell shadestepper is the only use for wind prison and its still outperformed by hmelee
elder chasm
Spell powders
celest lion
spowder
sinful harbor
spowdr
wide sun
srpowde