Lootrunning and the Mythic Market.

[twin fjord]

i cant read

[keen plaza]

Isolator - insanely OP
Amp 4 - sure
Rewinder - much better simulator, insanely OP
Suppressor - sure
Reflector - interesting, might be OP

Reflector depends on what it is possible to pair with, actually:
With simulators, it is just <= to simulator
With insulators, it is fairly potent
Without anything, it is weak

[twin fjord]

this is way too op ngl
just scrap every single boot or gaia and use the isolator on the idols

[acoustic loom]

Im going to skip all the new corkian stuff and just say that scrapping mythics is a common suggestion, the thought of them having to be unidentified is something I really like tho

I simply dont think that we need more amplifier spin-offs, the scrap could be used in other weak places we have in the game, like Forgery?

Lack of keys or runes is not the problem with Forgery

What to do? No idea, maybe spend them for increased chances of loot

But Forgery could really get some help

[blissful river]

2 mythic scrap + LE for new corkians is... Way too little
Some mythics are worth 5le, or even less (we have seen some mythics be worth 1le, yes you immolation)
Either increase the costs of mythic scrap, or maybe an idea would be to merge mythic scraps to a new mythic.
I scrap 3 immolations, then 3 immolation scraps, and with them i get a new unid immolation

Skyrocket? I would say, stabilize depending on the rewards
And this is why i think getting an unid mythic is better then getting new rewards

[acoustic loom]

Not interested in all possible options while trying to find a solution for a problem is a really bad startegy. Looks like you just want the amplifiers. If so, I have nothing more to say

[blissful river]

"depending on the rewards"
If you are giving corkian rewinder, that people are willing to spend 30-40le for one, then every mythics that are worth less then 15-20le are gonna get insta bought.

Also, this would mean that, some mythics are never gonna be on the market

A little note: scrapping mythics is an idea that has been around for years and years
If it hasnt been implemented it i really doubt it will ever gonna be

Forgery will never become a way to get mythics, salted basically confirmed this on an interview

[acoustic loom]

Key to development is to use your resources effectively, by solving mythic problem and using it to improve Forgery is killing two flies with one stone

[acoustic loom]

Remove them from Forgery completely for all sake I dont care

Doesnt stop using mythics from improving it

[jagged dome]

Corkian reflector would be a neat addition (I'd rename it to corkian duplicator though)

[acoustic loom]

How? No idea

Im afraid that isnt relevant what so ever

Im saying that mythic scrap could be used in Forgery

Instead of some bs corkian spin-offs that would break the economy even more 😂

Lies with the dev team where they want to lead Forgery to

Maybe chance to make a mythic shiny?

[blissful river]

The economy is alr broken past to the point of no return, lets pray the same thing will not happens to fruma mythics

[acoustic loom]

Like there are infinite options, but just to make the Forgery attractive a little bit

[acoustic loom]

Well yeah we can hope that Fruma will bring some sort new blood

Whats up with you and cancer?

I think you have never been a part of brainstorming

If someone from a CT team would like to expand on that idea I would be happy to talk about it yeah

You bring nothing to the table currently

[blissful river]

Can we just relax?

[acoustic loom]

To connect two problems together with a potential solution is very thoughfull, instead of trying to find two seperate solutions

But I agree with TechAle, there is clearly nothing more to say instead of arguing

Cool, then take it more like a reminder that if we would be to add mythic scrap to the game, it should be used in the Forgery of all places

Is that enough?

Definition of insanity

Then we need a third person who can think about that, or maybe we will think of something tommorow when driving around town

[blissful river]

the "it should be used in forgery" is not ideal because salted said he doesnt want forgery to be used for mythics

Since "it already gives xp"

[acoustic loom]

Well not for mythics

But using mythics in it

Probably a new feature of sorts yep

To just make more attrative and usefull

[blissful river]

That forgery rewards should get an huge rework, we all agree
But other then mythics, maybe more raw?

Scrap could be used for increasing the amount of xp and raw from the chest maybe you are saying?

[acoustic loom]

Could be but then mythic scrap would hold that pure income tight

Aka mythic scrap price would only be as much as the potential income boost

[blissful river]

Raids rn is mainly the only source of raw LE that wynncraft has

[acoustic loom]

Arent raids like for more people?

[blissful river]

If you use pfinder, you will understand that raids are something you do alone

[acoustic loom]

Honestly I kinda like that you could spend mythic scrap to have a chance to forge and make your mythic shiny. Potential huge income boost but gamble

[nova cloak]

10 mythic scrap = 1 random mythic! Gambling!

[blissful river]

That seems a lovely way to make shiny mythics less valuable

[acoustic loom]

Well Salted doesnt want that

[nova cloak]

When did he say that?

[acoustic loom]

I dont own one so wouldnt mind that 😂

[blissful river]

Isnt this thread about making the economy better?

[acoustic loom]

Is anyone concerned about shiny mythic economy?

If it would save the normal mythic economy and Forgery I would be all for it

[nova cloak]

Most ppl r too broke to use shiny mythics

[blissful river]

Shiny mythics have been implemented because salted knew that normal mythics would die in price

[acoustic loom]

The big reverse move then

Sounds about right

[blissful river]

I dont use shiny because i see shiny as a waste of money

[nova cloak]

Same but I’m looking for a shiny hero with a decent tracker lol

[blissful river]

If i see a discoverer with chest tracker, then maybe i would be willing to spend 10-20stx for it

That's the only shiny i would actually buy

[nova cloak]

I don’t use disco :D

[acoustic loom]

If it would be balanced about 15~ mythics for a shiny it doesn't sound that bad

But still gamble, this would just be a median

[blissful river]

Making shiny mythics less valuable is only going to make every rich people that bought shiny for "holding value" mad

[nova cloak]

15 dbreaks lmao

Yeah shinys should stay rare and expensive that’s the point of them existing

[acoustic loom]

Thats life

[nova cloak]

Either way there’s virtually 0 reason to use a shiny

[blissful river]

I'm of the idea that the mythic market is ruined, we cannot do anything about it
Lets pray for fruma mythics to not get ruined

[nova cloak]

U know they will

[blissful river]

Now that i think, i will have to lootrun again once fruma mythics are out D:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[nova cloak]

Just buy it after 2 days when it’s 2 stx lmao

Watch them be a whole set of new immolations

[acoustic loom]

Well you technically agreed that by sacrificing a bit of shiny mythic value the normal mythic crisis could be averted. So I take it as a win

In the end the shiny will still be shiny, they will just not make a bank out of it

[nova cloak]

No normal mythic crisis will be averted, all the dawnbreaks, immolations, hadals and archangels of the world r gonna be sacrificed

[acoustic loom]

Just make it weighted, low mythics would give small amount of scrap. We want their price to increase a tiny bit right, so the price will move to a point where it would be better to buy a "higher tier" mythic

Additionally only the new unidentified ones could be scrapped, so doesn't mean that the market would die the moment the update would come

[nova cloak]

Sure that might work but y would u want to make shinys cheaper

[acoustic loom]

Just a sacrifice I would be willing to take

Something has to be done clearly

[nova cloak]

And even if this is implemented I don’t think people would use it very much

[acoustic loom]

Well you could make awfull amount of LE by making it a shiny one and selling it

[nova cloak]

Most people who sell unid mythics are selling bc they aren’t rich enough to risk the gamble and these same ppl won’t have enough mythics to sacrifice it

And the people who are rich enough to afford sacrificing already have the shinys they want

[acoustic loom]

They can sell the scrap

[acoustic loom]

For their own use, but as an investment

[pure gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/862771646997856286/1129915525531701278/togif.gif

[acoustic loom]

Hell yeah, lets do the same with shinies!

[nova cloak]

Hey I have like 2.5 pages of le and I’m not complaining!

[pure gull]

eat the rich

[acoustic loom]

Oh so thats why are you against lowering the price of shiny mythics then

[nova cloak]

No pls don’t

[nova cloak]

I own 0 shinys lol

[unkempt smelt]

Bro if the rich people dont know how to invest or adapt properly who cares about what they think 😂

[nova cloak]

This is so true

[pure gull]

i think all mythics should be 1-10 LE that way they are accessible to all players 👍 if you disagree you're elitist

[nova cloak]

Wouldn’t that ruin ur loans service lmao

[pure gull]

(i am joking)

[nova cloak]

How many ppl actually take loans from u

[pure gull]

there are people who legitimately think that though which I think is becoming more and more ridiculous per day since 2.0.3

but uh yeah why should there be a constant mythic drain if the mythic supply has only been too much for a limited time

[nova cloak]

Honestly we just need to hire rich ppl to buy out mythics then quit economy fixed ez

Didn’t the recent update reduce rates

Oh wait that’s like not so recent now lmao

[leaden acorn]

corkian adder: adds 5% to all positive rolls
perfect mythics fr

[pure gull]

is it not low enough rn?

[acoustic loom]

What do you think about increasing normal mythic value by lowering the value of shiny mythics Tealy?

All done in the Forgery

[pure gull]

sounds like a terrible idea

[acoustic loom]

Nice!

[pure gull]

the economy wouldn't improve for years after we got the rates right

[acoustic loom]

Tealy has many shiny mythics, clearly

[pure gull]

clearly

[floral imp]

Make cata 1 le it’s one of the only ones I don’t have in my colllection

[pure gull]

cheap mythics are actually good for the game 🙂 now i can get whatever i want without having to play!

[nova cloak]

corkian corkian: makes mythics more corkian (realistically does nothing and is incompatible with other augments)

[floral imp]

No meme mythics being as common as they were ruined a lot of potential play time for me. I actively gave away like 25+ mythics just so I have something to “chase” again

[stark kernel]

Give us the rates

[frank cave]

Increases the sell cost of the mythic (Jayce's Hammer)

[cobalt mirage]

league reference

[pine canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/hhhhomeboyyyy-gianluca-me-reading-wtf-gif-21273156

Ain't reading allat

[versed dagger]

this is a joke of a thought process lol

[steady hedge]

“Ruined” sorry your warp isn’t worth 1000hrs of playtime anymore

You’re idea isn’t just great it’s actually necessary. If mythics aren’t ever destroyed they get inflated just like everything else. I’d bet actual money eventually this idea will be in the game

Or at least some avenue for mythics to be destroyed(or maybe transformed??)

[blissful river]

Eh i bought my warp recently

[bleak cedar]

me too thats crazy

[vagrant crow]

I prefer how accesible mythics are thesedays. And this me saying when I myself lost a lot of networth troughout the years cause mythic prices dropped to the ground.

I wish insulators and simulators were a lil less rare though. Somewhere in between fabled and mythic rarity (droprate wise). But idk how OP that would be.

[west hearth]

where's the tldr

Nvm I ended up reading it anyways

Too op

[stray apex]

bro thinks he can get value out of his time

mythics r cooked

u cant convince wynn team because this is what they wanted