Buff forgery mythic rate

[still cypress]

Forgery is bad for xp, and aside doing corrupted dungeons for tools or for fun, there's no real reason to do a forgery run anymore. My point is that, increasing the mythic drop from the forgery chest run by a considerable amount would not only add a money making method but also make forgery more interesting to run.

[languid marten]

i agree forgery is p bad, but like, we do not need more mythics rn

id rather see forgery get a unique reward

[humble knoll]

^ give forge a unqiue loot pool

Maybe even have to also cycle from week to week or maybe month to month

[hybrid haven]

clear dungeon weekly quest

[exotic pewter]

well forgery has unique items, but aside gales sight they arent really worth farmin

[pearl loom]

would like to see that get expanded ^

new items and a reason to run forgery

[brazen cosmos]

maybe a trophy item bought with forgery chains, something like on LI?

[exotic pewter]

forgery chainmail

[humble knoll]

^ also a good idea

[brazen cosmos]

each bigger wynn challenge should have a trophy item for completing it, 64 give you a cosmetic armor/accessory

[junior mesa]

It would be interesting if it gave more useful unqiue accessories that have a greater part of being in builds like LI accessories

[plush field]

froggery

[final quest]

wdym? forgery chains already exist

[compact scroll]

Ive said it before but I dont think the overall mythics generated form forgery should be increased, it should just be a lower base rate with a higher boost factor (for each time you dont get one)

[compact scroll]

And blood melanges!!!

[final quest]

OMFG!!!!\

[final quest]

or dont touch mythic rate at all and let forge have its own reason for being run

[compact scroll]

Either do my change or remove mythic chance and give it good rewards (like raids)

[final quest]

or that too

[brazen cosmos]

forgery tomes

[final quest]

mythic chance is so negligible it might as well not be there

[compact scroll]

Bc right nownits really just shit or a minimal chance at some good stuff

[final quest]

and make them double as effective as raid tomes

[compact scroll]

IMs would like to know your address

[final quest]

this will surely save forgery and help wynn

[brazen cosmos]

Fruman queen's bath water

[compact scroll]

We should get remikas submission and gales blindness

[final quest]

remikas' submissiveness

[compact scroll]

-20 rainbow sp but + 5 soul point regen

[icy compass]

MAKE FORGERY BETTER

[opal valve]

FORGERY RAHHHHHHHHHH

[stoic pagoda]

raaaaaaaaaaah

[icy compass]

FORGERY BETTER MAKE IT BETTER MAKE IT BETTER

[earnest mesa]

I LOVE THE FORGERY 😍

[opal valve]

BRING BACK SP ON SANC LEGS RAHHHHH

[icy compass]

I LOVE FORGERY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stoic pagoda]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646051497192325143/991169258765680690/image2.gif

[opal valve]

BUFF IT ALL

[icy compass]

25 SP RAINBOW SANCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[compact scroll]

RED LILY
GREEN LILY
VIOLET LILY
CONDUIT OF BODY
!!!!

[exotic pewter]

corrupted corrupted sand swept tomb

[weak knoll]

all the new items have been absolute fire

i suggest the item team cook some more insane shit and slap it in forgery chest

also make pz 40 tiers

[icy compass]

make forgery chain piece useful

[earnest mesa]

add more unique forgery chest rewards

[icy compass]

pleasethank you

[earnest mesa]

meta mythic you can only get from forgery

[weak knoll]

bad idea

but make a fabled!!!!

[icy compass]

forgery chain piece legendary island mask

[earnest mesa]

ok bad mythic you can only get from forgery!

[weak knoll]

real

[broken viper]

It has one...

[icy compass]

how do you replace legendary medallion and not make a forgery chain piece item

[stoic pagoda]

[broken viper]

This is why we should make a thread banning Bunns from #1019649786799996980 I think we could all agree

[earnest mesa]

[weak knoll]

ban @half nexus from life

[broken viper]

This tbh

[icy compass]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-quentin-gif-22225488

[earnest mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-chill-gif-10127369

[icy compass]

HELLLOOOOOOOO QUENTIN

[humble knoll]

It’s extremely out dated besides for one item

[weak knoll]

heyyy

dont forget btek prowess!!!

[pearl loom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-16205347759257346444

[humble knoll]

Also u have a very weird obsession with hating me when I’ve almost never interacted with you 😅

[broken viper]

That's crazy

Maybe it's because you make terrible suggestions and takes and mine are pretty okayish

[weak knoll]

[czad]

[broken viper]

Although I will give it to you, this one was okay

[icy compass]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-love-good-morning-gif-7571519488772544730

[earnest mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/hanna-otter-comb-cute-pet-gif-16962610

[broken viper]

But it's hard to fuck up a forgery suggestion so actually I think you're safe Bunns

[humble knoll]

Just wait

[brazen cosmos]

hardcore forgery, when you die you drop your mythics

[exotic pewter]

make a corrupted version of the forgery

[humble knoll]

^

[weak knoll]

what does that even mean

[exotic pewter]

corrupted corrupted decreipt sewers

corrupted corrupted infested pit

corrupted corrupted lost sanctum

[humble knoll]

Will admit a “hard mode” for forgery that scales everything up to ur lvl (105 prob) and maybe a “mission” type of system would be fun for me atleast for forge

[weak knoll]

that

literally exists

[broken viper]

Yep it exists

[humble knoll]

? How does corrupted sewers scale to player lvl?

[weak knoll]

it just kinda does

[humble knoll]

I’ve always one shot that dung

[broken viper]

Buff forgery mythic rate, increase LE and rune rewards and unique pool to bring it up to Lootrun/raid standards

[opal valve]

Have you evewr

looked at the boss levels at the door to a boss

[icy compass]

from 1.19->1,20 they made forgery boss levels scale to highest in room level, hence not being able to go into a bossroom mid-fight

[stoic pagoda]

bosses in forgery scale with ur level

[broken viper]

I think we should listen to kebabdoner he is literally number 1 in the forgery leaderboards so he is the expert

[humble knoll]

Ya but that doesn’t mean the mobs are act scaled for 105 combat sewers and pit I one shot basically everything and kill the boss within 2-3 seconds?

[weak knoll]

dont buff mythic rate, do add stupid funny fabled and slap like a stupid ahh major id on it

trust

[broken viper]

Why not both? Getting one mythic in 30 runs instead of 60 wouldn't hurt...

[humble knoll]

Also no I can’t read

[weak knoll]

add another greed item

[broken viper]

I'm convinced Buuns doesn't actually exist outside of #1019649786799996980

[icy compass]

ok but the boss is scaled to your level blame 2.0 it dies in 3s

[broken viper]

Like you cannot convince me this is a real player

[weak knoll]

do you hate this guy

[humble knoll]

Do u want my ign so u can look at my stats?

[broken viper]

I'm sure they're a lovely person

[broken viper]

Sure

[icy compass]

what do stats matter

[humble knoll]

MrBuuns. You’ll see I’m a quest hater cause I can’t read

Raid mod kill time played lvl over all classes

[icy compass]

why is we sharing stats 😭

[broken viper]

I believe this explains everything

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[weak knoll]

on a different note, add another greed item!

[icy compass]

yeah i can do that im capable

[humble knoll]

What’s wrong with hax? They use to be cool in like 2016 😭

[icy compass]

https://tenor.com/view/amogus-god-taketh-away-among-us-gif-25174656

[broken viper]

What year is it Buuns

[humble knoll]

2008?

[icy compass]

200 and late

[humble knoll]

Fr

[half nexus]

I’m gonna say something

[weak knoll]

Hi

[humble knoll]

Booo

[half nexus]

Skyskyskyskyskysky

[humble knoll]

I’m also a blind hater

[half nexus]

Let’s see if I get muted

[weak knoll]

what for

[humble knoll]

Being a frickin poo head

[half nexus]

Anyways changing forgery would be nice maybe not buff mythic rate, idk

[humble knoll]

Do u even really understand the rates and how dumb they are?

[weak knoll]

you didnt know about scaling 2 minutes ago

are you really in a position to speak about that

[humble knoll]

Doesn’t mean I don’t know about stuff I care about

I have like a 52 streak on my mage rn

Forgery mythic rates are fucked

[icy compass]

~18 hours per mythic

anyway ct response: this is not what we made forgery for !!!!!!!!!!!!!! its meant for xp yadidayayaya ya[p yap

[broken viper]

I should of left before the Buuns induced brainrot set in

[humble knoll]

Ur more likely to get a mythic on run 8 than run 40+ because of some weird math scaling “allegedly” it was in a thread months ago

[humble knoll]

Tru

[weak knoll]

on a different note make pz +40 tier!

[icy compass]

????????????????????

[opal valve]

ct response : we wanted to do something with forgery chain pieces but we change legendary island pieces first for some reason cuz why not

[icy compass]

dont believe everything you see on the internet

[humble knoll]

I forget it was prob like 8 months ago some smart guy shows the math in why the scaling was fucked. I forget the name of the thread but it’s archived somewhere prob

[icy compass]

i have done the maths many a time

[weak knoll]

i ated it

[earnest mesa]

well clearly they were wrong

[humble knoll]

Like bro had charts n shit

[icy compass]

that guy is just not smart

[humble knoll]

Ah

I wasn’t smart enough to rlly understand the data so I kinda took him for his word

[humble knoll]

Also where did this number come from?

[icy compass]

it depends how fast you run,,,,,,,,

[humble knoll]

Forge avg 30 min runs

[earnest mesa]

37 run average per mythic

[icy compass]

then yeah 18.5 !!!!!!!!

[humble knoll]

I only have a sample size of 2 but both me and friend 50+ before mythic where is that 37 avg from?

[icy compass]

(run quicker bozo sub 30 only !¬!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

[icy compass]

maths sir

[humble knoll]

U know the speedrun wr is like 26 mins?

[icy compass]

i do know the wr

i also would never condone bug abuse

[humble knoll]

[icy compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575841273752059925/1109488253687574568/image.png?ex=6558ca74&is=65465574&hm=f77ce8b0cb58ef7cb7c4a7c8a1a34ed6cb0a1811afce2bea0c0c8f8bfe9f677d&

whoever did this should be banned............... bug abuser

[humble knoll]

There’s a reason that run isn’t record isn’t there

[icy compass]

https://tenor.com/view/snufkin-moomin-crime-partner-in-gif-18261457

[humble knoll]

Hot take if players are doing “skips” don’t punish them instead make those areas just better

[earnest mesa]

um akshually if you get like 5 classes on an alt to start timers early you can do that legitamitely!!!

[opal valve]

from the magic hat

[humble knoll]

Fr

Idk when ppl just say “math” idk what to say without being able to see it myself but I’m way to stupid to understand complex equations majority of the time

[icy compass]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/759850143926976524/960576450652676126/20220222_163558.gif

[humble knoll]

Ok?

[pearl loom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816013135969386496/1054893799056363560/attachment.gif

[humble knoll]

Also even tho the boss does “scale” it’s not impactful at all and should be applied to the entire dungeon not just the boss

[opal valve]

its not impactful because of the 2.0 update

where the damage went kaboom big number boom big number

[humble knoll]

Idk why y’all wanna try to bully me so badly when I’m not the one with thousands of weird ass screenshot saved to try to make random disses to strangers on the internet

[humble knoll]

Forge didn’t feel impactful before 2.0 imo I use to run it a decent bit back then still

[icy compass]

forgery pre pity was abit ass

[humble knoll]

But also this is a reason is should be updated again

[icy compass]

the 2.0.3 update

in particulat

[humble knoll]

They added a ton of weird door changes and didn’t touch scaling in any way

[icy compass]

they made mythics worthless

[humble knoll]

Tru

[icy compass]

therefore made lategame forgery running worthless

"forgery isnt meant for lategame "SHBUTUP CT MEMBER #23

[humble knoll]

I use to do forge cause it was “fun” for me

It’s how I tested new builds

[opal valve]

cuz either if theyre working on a rework it would be in a big update or they dont care my guess is the later , doors was just a change made in every dungeon not necessarily forgery

[humble knoll]

I’m guessing the 2nd aswell 😞

[opal valve]

in forgery the doors also didnt work for a whole month :P

so you couldnt do a full run

[humble knoll]

^

[daring kestrel]

if forgery had some good rewards as an incentive the dungeons done shiny counter could be considered less of a meme aswell

[hexed spire]

Forgery should give you like, useful not weapon things

Like cgg cannon

[tepid holly]

what tealee said

[languid marten]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1095567545752363068/1172614738312712322/v12044gd0000cl6m8ivog65hc0gcgpu0.mov?ex=6560f593&is=654e8093&hm=04946c78109d64ab2567acf34fda448e573fac9567fbd142efa88ea144a63602&

[tepid holly]

@alpine marlin @true swallow

[alpine marlin]

[tepid holly]

GAAGHCCK

[sterile kestrel]

if only forgery had a unique item that was given on completion

it could be a piece of something

perhaps

[humble knoll]

It’s almost as if “most” the items are so irrelevant ppl forget it has a “unique” pool

[sterile kestrel]

obviously we need more blood melanges

[final quest]

we are going to ignore that conduit is part of the "centerpieces" set, of which chain rule is a part of

[humble knoll]

I used rainbow sanc for a while with my freedom build

Ngl I forgot about all of the dung gear lmao

[final quest]

SO CREATIVE

[manic rose]

forgery is bad now?

[final quest]

it's not worthwhile if you are endgame

its still good if you're like levelling up

[manic rose]

yeah ofc it’s meant for lvl 70-95 smth

i thought the whole purpose of forgery was speedleveling not rewards

[final quest]

yeah

[final quest]

^

many players don't think it should become obsolete when you get to endgame

there is already very limited endgame content

[manic rose]

raids and lootrunning

[final quest]

so make forg worth running, adds variety to what u can do

[manic rose]

i mean if they’re raising the level cap then….

[final quest]

we got corrupted fallen factory 🥂

[manic rose]

back in my day there was only basic lootrunning to do in endgame

then profs

[humble knoll]

I perfer dungeons over everything else just no end game dungeons 🤷‍♂️ cgg being basically all mini games was a spit in the face to anyone who wanted an “end game” dungeon

[final quest]

what 😭

what does that even mean

[manic rose]

insert ?whar gif here

[final quest]

how is cgg any more like "minigames" than any other dungeon, except for the one room that is based off of tnt run

[humble knoll]

I like dungeons. Cgg is basically mini games. I wanted a harder dungeon.

[daring kestrel]

dungeons should stay relevant in the endgame because we have stat tracker specifically for dungeon clears

[final quest]

the only other minigame part is the like "shooting the boats"

[humble knoll]

Cannon room dumb gimik parkour. 4 “mini games” 2 slay rooms

Swim part

[final quest]

so u just want more slay rooms with harder enemies?

thats fair ig

everything in moderation i suppose. i find CUR's slay rooms to be very boring, but the slime parkour very fun

[humble knoll]

Ya idk basically want a dungeon that’s more like a “raid” but be able to be done solo like sand dungeon

[final quest]

probably cuz there are like 3 diff stages where u have to kill a lot of mobs (escort, slay 1, slay 2) and it gets old

[humble knoll]

Agree

[humble knoll]

By this I want content that is “hard” like raids. But I can do solo

[manic rose]

Elaborate

[manic rose]

get 3 alts lvl 105

[final quest]

csst is what. room 1: wait, then wait again, then kill boss. then u run past the traps to push the button so that u can go down the hole to go past more traps. then u go to once of the different parkour sections. somewhere in here u do another slay challenge in a smaller room. then u go to the colliseum and wait even MORE and then u run across the platform that falls away underneath u and then u fight the boss

[final quest]

1.19 EO 🥺

[humble knoll]

I like that I can get random rooms with csst

[final quest]

yeah that def helps replayability

[daring kestrel]

1.19 eo was goated

[crystal yoke]

The dungeons

[humble knoll]

It makes the parkour and some slay rooms semi fun

Also ya 1.19 eo was actually hard for me I agree

[manic rose]

im not too sure if that’s a good stat to track because you could just do ds several hundred times

[daring kestrel]

well that is one stat the shinies can have, and thats why dungeons should have some relevancy even after being max lvl

[livid osprey]

real

[manic rose]

ok i can see the problem

[glad drum]

The relevancy for them is to grind for dungeon rain items such as BODY AXE or DARTING BLUR

or something like that.

[manic rose]

dungeons are mainly used as a way to level up but the shiny stat is only in endgame and dungeons are useless in endgame

so in other words the solution is to raise the level cap and add content

in other words fruma

solution: fruma

[manic rose]

hows forgery bad for xp

[sterile kestrel]

let him cook

[final quest]

rainmaker when

[compact hollow]

no one cares about dungeons let em die

surprised a mod didn’t say to shove it in the forums

[woeful coral]

Wtf are you on

Dungeons, especially forgery, would be a good form of solo-endgame content if it had a reason to be ran

[sterile kestrel]

if grind parties got removed we would only spam dungeons like it’s 1.16

and they want to avoid the 1.16 fiasco that was csst at all costs

cgg would get spammed to oblivion with how buggy it still is

someone would throw a dungeon bomb and mages would pour in en mass beating cgg in 2 minutes

with dxp it’s like 1.2m xp per run

[still cypress]

Forgery is awful for xp

Any kind of xp party goes way faster

[still cypress]

Even duo scrapyard goes way faster

[bronze swan]

someday

forgery has a lot of fundamental issues

it's something i'm interested in looking into improvements for, but that takes lower priority than fruma work

biggest thing in my mind is that mythics just aren't a great "ultimate" reward for forgery. i'd like to remove them from rewards and bring in something unique instead

[ripe geyser]

can we get fabled chestplate that gives transcedence

then we nerf transcedence to 20% proc chance and buff nirvana sustain to compensate for the nerfs

because oops! 30% chance for spells to cost no mana on a high dps weapon is absolutely cracked

[compact scroll]

And then we should give trift back its ability to recast powder speciald and recast recasts and nerf it to 10%

[woeful coral]

Having forgery possibly reward some cosmetic crap would be cool

[final quest]

🥹

[final quest]

and then we make it so warrior’s spells casted by trift don’t get cancelled when the player casts them themselves

u guys both have like lunatic cultist bird mask plague doctor ass profile pics

[tepid holly]

why do i have 2 pings here

ghost pinging me in a random ass thread

[final quest]

we do a little bit of trolling

[dense rivet]

people still ping me in discord link lol

[idle wasp]

Balanced

[compact scroll]

rng moment