#Suggestion: New Playstyle for a Character Run

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dim nacelle
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just play ironman and do that challange yourself

runic sphinx
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I mean one could but that wasn't really the point of the suggestion.

stuck finch
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seems odd

serene flax
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This is kinda a less challenging craftsman

heavy dawn
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therck chain armor to dungeon gear to avalanche + bob's battle chestplate to grookwarts to bob's weapon to champion set to hive plus AHC pathway is real

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avoiding profs challenge 🔥

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linny how do quest helmets work w/ ironman (breathing helmet, purified hat of legends, etc)

raw spire
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I won't lie, I like this idea

raw spire
heavy dawn
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cool

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make purified helmet of legends a crafted item 🔥

zenith trail
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Unnecessary addition

heavy dawn
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we literally craft it for this lazy ass kelight or whoever

zenith trail
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When you can self impose these restrictions easily

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A fifth gamemode would be better spent on an interesting and unique concept that can't be attained through just choosing not to use items. People already do dungeon gear only runs

heavy dawn
stuck finch
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ill be real this is just the game but you don’t loot chests

runic sphinx
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runic sphinx
# serene flax This is kinda a less challenging craftsman

Yes it is, the idea is to not take away from the quest and dungeons. Craftsman takes away from the purpose of the game which is fine for people who just want to craft, but this would be for people who would like to still delve through quest and dungeons at the same time. The idea also compliments the developers hard work which craftsman takes away from in terms of rpg elements.

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What’s odd about it?

bronze dust
# runic sphinx What’s odd about it?

whats odd about it is that with how many items this gamemode gives access to, it can hardly be called a challenge anymore. the amount of thought you're forced to put into each build you use is greatly reduced compared to craftsman

raw spire
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I won't say that. A lot of good items are found from mob drops and loot caves. This kind of gamemode would make you run dungeons more often for tools and gear, much like with regular craftsman.

Though I will say, this gamemode should also make you unable to use items from raids (except tomes ofc), and quest rewards (as opposed to quest items).

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Pretty much make all of your gear only obtainable from dungeon runs: the tools and the gear. So yk, like budget craftsman

bronze dust
raw spire
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ok but are all end game builds just dungeon items? are all dungeon items good for end game builds?

sick lily
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no

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that’s what makes it a challenge

runic sphinx
# bronze dust i hate to break it to you but dungeon items are actually good. loads of people u...

I agree with ChrisWildfire here. I don’t think it’s odd. Use the first dungeon as an example, there are gear options that one are not able to be traded which means no one can access them unless the dungeon is completed however many times. Crafting also has many different ways to build a singular piece of gear. In a way the possibilities are numerous. However there is a vast amount of gear in other forms from events and drops that can change the game a lot more compared to just crafting and running dungeons/quests.

runic sphinx
bitter topaz
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This is a pointless gamemode addition because Ironman is right there

raw spire
zenith trail
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However Hunted you cannot emulate without the gamemode

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What I am saying is that going forward, any new gamemodes we add should be unique twists on gameplay that you cannot do normally

runic sphinx
zenith trail
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What

runic sphinx
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Unnecessary may be a bad word choice what I mean is a waste of a developers time. For example the mage may only do fire damage.

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That type of deviation would be impractical as well.

zenith trail
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I don't understand what you are trying to say

runic sphinx
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I get what you are saying but it doesn’t make sense to me. Basically anything in the game in terms of play style or mode type could be emulated outside of the pvp game mode. If it couldn’t be emulated you wouldn’t be able to do it in the game anyways because the type of style would not be possible unless new mods are introduced allowing something new to be introduced.

So the only way for them to do a unique play style as you are referring would be to use micro parts about the game like fire damage. Just using fire damage may be possible but impractical in terms of game design. I’m sorry if you don’t understand what I am saying at this point because I don’t know how else to phrase it.

zenith trail
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Ok so

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That's not true at all

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Let me clarify what I said: the first three gamemodes (HIC) were added a while ago and are somrwgat based off of RuneScape

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Hunted, however, was added later down the line in 1.19, and instead of prior gamemodes, what Hunted does you cannot replicate for a custom challenge run

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Using only dungeon gear is possible by just opting out of using other gear in a playthrough; it can be entirely self imposed by a player

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New gamemodes that we add should instead strive to add challenges where players cannot through self imposed rules

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As a random example (not saying this is good but to express the point) a challenge mode where some enemies are replaced with 'elites' that are stronger variants

runic sphinx
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Now as I said I understand that and I understand what you are getting at. Based on your example, however that would have to add code strings or mods in theory to add that specific variation to individual players in the world.

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I don’t disagree with what you are saying, but what I said isn’t wrong. As I said the developer would have to add a mod or string of code to allow per your example the world mobs to be harder for individual players.

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Anyways as stated, this was just a suggestion because I and others have thought a mode based on what I described would be a nice addition.

runic sphinx
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I was talking about the capabilities in the game already and what could be a nice addition; nothing more nothing less.

zenith trail
runic sphinx
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I didn’t say that

zenith trail
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Based on your example, however that would have to add code strings or mods in theory to add that specific variation to individual players in the world.

runic sphinx
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I said a mod or sting of code would have to be added

zenith trail
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Yeah, we don't use mods

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Wynncraft is vanilla

runic sphinx
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And that’s fine, there is still coding

zenith trail
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There will be coding regardless of what the challenge gamemode is

runic sphinx
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Alright I’m done with this conversation it’s pointless. As I said it was a suggestion if you don’t like it you can ignore it.

zenith trail
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I believe your argument is that because it'll take time to code it's not worth it, but that's just not true. Either way it'll take time and some effort, and it would be better if we spent that time and effort on something that isn't already in the game

runic sphinx
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Which I agree to if it’s worth the time. You have my argument all wrong. You are reading in between the lines.

zenith trail
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Then what's your argument

runic sphinx
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In short, if it’s worth the developers time to add something unique via a code or mod (regardless of this being vanilla, just phrasing in general) then that’s great. I never said you were wrong.. so I don’t see the point in this conversation with you. The whole point of this post was a suggestion of a game mode within game capabilities, not outside the current capability as you are suggesting in terms of uniqueness. There is nothing wrong with that. If the coders deem a project worth it then that’s great.

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That’s the whole point of a suggestion…

zenith trail
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And what I'm asking is why should we add something already in the game? Players already do dungeon item only and similar item restriction runs, why should we take the time adding a gamemode that doesn't put a unique spin on things when we could add one that does

runic sphinx
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I mean if you are the coder, idk who is, and and you don’t deem it worth it then don’t. I don’t see the problem. However clearly there are people who have seen this who agree with what I am saying so that should answer your question. The answer is a group of people would enjoy the idea and mode type. Idk ask your community and do a poll I can’t answer for everyone.

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I don’t care what the developers decide the do, but I thought the suggestion was nice. I would be one to enjoy the new mode and others would as well 🤷‍♂️

zenith trail
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The problem is that the gamemode you suggest overlaps with the already existing Craftsman gamemode and it doesn't add anything new to the experience. If we add this gamemode, what's the difference between it and just playing with the already existing rules? (HIC out of the picture because it was implemented with a different design philosophy)

runic sphinx
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As I said the game is great

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And as i said you stated earlier then there is no point in the modes other then pvp so ignore it??

zenith trail
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I'm not saying the suggestion is bad because Craftsman and Ironman can easily be done without the gamemode, I'm saying that an extra gamemode would be better spent on something far more unique

zenith trail
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I agree with you there, they're already things you can do in game normally

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But that doesn't mean going forward new gamemodes should be the same

runic sphinx
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Yes but by your reasoning there should only be unique modes added is my point

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So there is no reason for the other modes per your reasoning because they can be self implemented besides pvp

zenith trail
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Yeah. What I'm saying is all new gamemodes should be unique and twists on gameplay that aren't normally able to be experienced

runic sphinx
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And that’s fine, and as I said if that’s what you think that’s great.

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I just made a suggestion based on the current game, that is all

zenith trail
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Yeah, it's a suggestion

runic sphinx
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Exactly

zenith trail
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And I am a CT responding to it

runic sphinx
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Yes but you are over doing it

zenith trail
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How so?

runic sphinx
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You already established that I don’t disagree and it was a suggestion a long time ago

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I even said I was done with the conversation, but respectfully answered your questions.

zenith trail
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You didn't really respectfully answer

runic sphinx
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Because you continued to ask and then continue to tell me I was wrong when I said the same thing you said and never disagreed with you.

zenith trail
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I asked because I didn't understand your view point

runic sphinx
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Yeah I did, I never said you were wrong. I didn’t bully you.

zenith trail
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And to me it didn't seem you shared my ideas

runic sphinx
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That’s because you didn’t understand my writing. Though that’s not my fault, but I didn’t disrespect you.

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You would know if I did. And anyone who reads this would further state I didn’t disrespect you.

zenith trail
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Okay

runic sphinx
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Even if I don’t see eye to eye with you doesn’t constitute disrespect.

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It’s just a conversation..

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So I am done with this conversation, have a good rest of your evening and thank you for your time and response.

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If you want to continue over message then message me but this is not the place for a conversation if you further think I disrespect you we can talk in private.

zenith trail
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Regardless of the pedantics from either of us, my response is that we probably wouldn't consider adding something like this

runic sphinx
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Cool that’s fine.

sick lily
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i ain’t reading all that

vocal fox
zenith trail
zenith trail
zenith trail
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we added that as an addition so you could toggle the gamemode for your profile

vocal fox
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But craftsmen overlaps with the vanilla experience, so why are you wasting time making these gamemodes instead of fixing some very simple bugs?

zenith trail
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Without being locked in it, as you are from creation with a full hunted challenge mode

zenith trail
vocal fox
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Okay well please stop taking constructive criticism personally and go back to doing your job. I didn’t donate to this server to see developers get butthurt whenever a suggestion is added! How blatantly disrespectful.

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Thank you.

zenith trail
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I'm not, I'm just saying that I answered your questions already

vocal fox
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Keep talkin buddy!

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You arent fixing bugs at the moment. Still taking things personally.

zenith trail
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Huh

vocal fox
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Very sad.

zenith trail
zenith trail
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Which was completely uncalled for

vocal fox
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I digress. Have a good night

zenith trail
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It would be appreciated if you treated me as a person

serene flax
stuck finch
formal night
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aint no way

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this person clearly doesnt know that ct are volunteers

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and they dont know that different ct work on different things 🤯

vocal fox
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Thank you for the warning! I will use it to become a better person! Good day, lad or lass!

formal night
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i really hope you do

bronze dust
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this person took a master class in being insultingly polite but clearly missed the lectures on understanding every other tone of text

heavy dawn
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wow that was a nothing burger argument

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madeline is definitely right tho lol

raw spire
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oh, I was hoping this gamemode would be craftsman and craftsman would be turned to ultimate craftsman

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like with how ironman got a bank, craftsman would get more gear options

formal night
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well

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its not craftsman anymore then

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you dont have to craft anything

raw spire
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yeah true. feels more like a dungeoneer than a craftsman

uneven dirge
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How about a Quest, Dungeon, Raid items only mode instead

dim nacelle
uneven dirge
dim nacelle
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Deusphage stated that new gamemodes will not be something that can already be done ingame by just opting out of doing something

uneven dirge
dim nacelle
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"new challange modes"

dim nacelle
uneven dirge
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I think we should backtrack, apply this principle to all of the currently existing modes and treat them accordingly

Either way it was just a for fun idea to see the reaction of the guy who first posted about a new gamemode, I do not think any new gamemodes should be added or are needed

serene flax
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New gamemodes should definitely be added

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Would be fun

heavy dawn
uneven dirge
heavy dawn
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how do u hold the same opinion

uneven dirge
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That it sounds like ironman, hardcore and craftsman. It feels quite obvious

heavy dawn
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those game modes were based off a different game and were made before the most recent one, hunted, which is the only one that can’t be replicated through player choices. madeline’s point is that all future game modes should work the same as hunted: as in they can’t be replicated through player choices

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(like ironman, crafted, and hardcore can)

heavy dawn
uneven dirge
heavy dawn
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gotcha gotcha. i agree

runic sphinx
heavy dawn
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what

runic sphinx
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look guys i am done with this conversation, I didn't do anything wrong in making my suggestion.

zenith trail
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Ok, but that doesn't mean people can't discuss it?

runic sphinx
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yes but he stated to get a reaction out of the original poster

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hence my reply

uneven dirge
uneven dirge
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reaction towards the counter idea i named you, as in leaving out anything but dungeon and raid items

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meaning no crafted items at all

uncut forum
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ultimate hardcore: your class is deleted when you die
like

serene flax
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that's just hardcore but it does it automatically instead of you doing it manually

stuck finch
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lmfao

serene flax
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hardcore but dying makes deleting the class impossible

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you have 14 attempts per account

uncut forum
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hardcore but dying deletes all of your classes like

heavy dawn
atomic canyon
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hardcore but dying ip bans you