Make territory cooldown dependent on the distance of territory from HQ

[shrewd plume]

LMAO

this is the dumbest suggestion ive ever seen

@whole crescent @rustic pecan @sweet crescent 😭 😭

[sweet crescent]

i read this and wanted to write something stupid

but i genuinely didnt understand what he tried to say

[shrewd plume]

big guilds will NOT always win if you know what you are doing

[scenic prairie]

This will
Make hq sniping
Impossible

[vague grove]

Are you sure you thought this through? Perhaps you should revise your philosophy on the matter.

[pulsar sage]

whats wrong about the post

would be more helpful to tell me what i did or thought wrong than just saying this post or i am stupid

[shrewd plume]

u are right im sorry just funny

gimme a few mins ill type something out soon

[pulsar sage]

yea i didn't quite find the words to explain myself

i mean like, since after taking a territory theres a 10m static cd before retaking it's just too hard to maintain a small claim like rol when you can't even take back your territories before the opposing guilds wipe you, because the cd and the small size of the claim

you can extend this further to say its why its so hard to become a big guild, and its why big guilds dont have much competition (but that's a reach, i thought i'd include it in the post anyways)

[pulsar sage]

once again, the main point is to change the cd to anything else, just not what it is (read the last line)

it doesnt have to be what i suggested it can be literally anything

[pulsar sage]

good luck trying to win with 5 active players trying to keep a small claim when theres a guild with 12 people online at all times 😭

eventually once you 5 have to leave i Guarantee you that claim will not last 15 minutes without any of you online

[sweet crescent]

MALD has hours of no people online yet they still hold one of the biggest claims on the map

[scenic prairie]

This is NOT the reason why you cant become a big guild
All you need to do to get a big claim is:

• understand war
• recruit a lot of people across all timezones
• tech them all how to war
• get builds for warring
• snipe a big guilds hq and take over their claim
• then defend that claim

[pulsar sage]

All you need to do is become a big guild

??? You literally just proved my point

Good luck recruiting a ton of active people across different time zones who are willing to war consistently

[scenic prairie]

The way you worded it it sounded like becoming a big guild is locked behind getting a claim first

[pulsar sage]

if it sounded that way to you then i'm sorry lol

that's my bad, but yea. this static 10m cd is pretty detrimental

[pulsar sage]

also i'm not sure how to reply to this, are you 100% sure about that? could be also that they are able to consistently reclaim, or alliances, or everyone is offline at one point due to school/sleep

thats a good point though im sure theres a reason

[vague grove]

It proposes ideas that are dangerous to the most vulnerable players on wynncraft.

[scenic prairie]

The reason why they can keep their claim is bc noone dares to touch the big claims

[pulsar sage]

💀 good point

[pulsar sage]

Also good point 💀

[vague grove]

A small claim like The Realm of Light is impractical due to the abysmal design of the area.

[pulsar sage]

design as in like. how the territories are connected economically or

anyways this post is applicable to pretty much any small claim, it doesn't matter about choke hold points because like. what are you gonna drain from a 5 - 10 territory claim 😭

[vague grove]

The connections and the resource spread are undefendable, it hasn't a city nor a good advantageous point for setting a HQ.

[vague grove]

Nesaak is a small yet very respectable claim.

[pulsar sage]

nesaak and snow biome has 2 cities & 2 rainbow terrs

[shrewd plume]

you arent really supposed to be able to hold small claims in the system

you have no externals making your hq very easy to take

[pulsar sage]

thats bad game design imo

[shrewd plume]

changing cd might help in this specific scenario of taq queueing all rol terrs before u can even react

but, it hurts every other part of warring

[vague grove]

A relatively small amount of territories yet has good resources and an advantageous territory to set as your HQ, the trade off being any territory being taken may cause an issue making it a well designed small claim.

[pulsar sage]

i mean it's still prone to being wiped before you could react anyways

also good luck taking nesaak and under avo/taq would never let you take a part of their claim

[shrewd plume]

this is not true

avo especially are streched super thin, their claim is divided into 3 sizeable chunks

[pulsar sage]

i'm sure there is a solution to this, i'm pointing out the issue and providing potential solutions as is intended with constructive feedback, there might be better solutions; you're welcome to speculate

[shrewd plume]

you can easily hurt them, with a trio/quad we have been able to completely drain avo/hold desert from them

[pulsar sage]

yea you can drain almuj and nesaak

i know the routine ive done this w/ taq before 😭

this circles right back to my original post though
you can hurt them but good damn luck maintaining that territory

[sweet crescent]

imp did it :/

imp held desert and posed an actual real threat to TAq eco until they stopped

[shrewd plume]

tnl held desert for fucking like 5 hours

[pulsar sage]

thats crazy but i wouldnt consider imp to be a small guild

[shrewd plume]

with 4 people, no healer and no consu

[vague grove]

The goal of the guild rework is to make the map stable and mostly static, it's doing well in that regard.

[pulsar sage]

I'm pointing out bad game design, if that's what the point is then I agree it is working, but I do not agree with the point

[jaunty basin]

can someone give a tldr that you can actually understand

[sweet crescent]

he wants to hold rol for hours without being wiped

[jaunty basin]

read it like twice and still have no clue what this suggestion is

[vague grove]

How would you feel if you were a new player and suddenly the guild map had a new set of guilds? You might have a panic attack from the sensory overload.

[pulsar sage]

Scroll down I worded it a little better

[pulsar sage]

What 😭 😭

[jaunty basin]

i cant scroll down jm at the bottom already

[pulsar sage]

Up then

[jaunty basin]

too many messages sorry

[grand zenith]

Man that would be some bad game design

[pulsar sage]

Dislike the post and leave then I'm not sure what to tell you

[jaunty basin]

you should tell me a tldr

[vague grove]

We can work through this.

[pulsar sage]

TL;DR: Static 10m cd is bad game design because it results in the map being static, with small guilds unable to compete and big guilds being mostly unaffected; it gives attackers a massive headstart leaving defenders no time to react, unless they have 50 territories

[sweet crescent]

do you think ANO is a fraud then since they dont have 50terrs yet have been holding for super long?

[vague grove]

Some time ago in 1.20 my friend was ecstatic that a guild called "Blacklisted [BLA]" was holding a massive chunk of the starting player area, his inspiration from that point onward was to become a strong player so that he may join this guild that seemingly has the entire map under control.
But then without warning one day he logs on and that guild is no where to be found, thus leading him to immediately log off the game and never return.
The guilds holding massive chunks of the map act as motivation for newer players to become better, they're a beacon of hope and inspiration, if there's instability all around how will the new players ever decide what guild is most fitting?

[pulsar sage]

This does not disprove my point, that's just guild politics

[sweet crescent]

whats the politics there

[jaunty basin]

how are small guilds umable to compete

small guilds are just bad

[pulsar sage]

ANO staying neutral trying not to attack somebody so nobody attacks them 😭 Also just their territories being spaced out and their high terr defenses discourage guilds from attacking

[sweet crescent]

But you just said this favors attackers if you dont have 50+ terrs

so why dont you attack and wipe ANO (you have the advantage)

[pulsar sage]

Well for the most part yes, unless if it takes 10m to go from one territory to another

Then the cd is also meaningless

[jaunty basin]

except it doesnt take 10 minutes to get to another terr in ocean

[pulsar sage]

Except you can't take 3 high territories each being several hundreds of blocks apart until its been 10 minutes

[vague grove]

You must think fast on your feet.

Mobility is just as important as attacking prowess

[sweet crescent]

You can take even more than that!

[pulsar sage]

It doesn't matter how many you can take, you aren't wiping ANO in under 10 minutes 😭

Which gives them time to react

Which is something unavailable to smaller guilds

Which circles right back to this original post

[sweet crescent]

How does this have anything to do with the size of your guild

[pulsar sage]

Ok so

You have 5 players and a 9 territory claim
Taq chains your claim and you chain back and it's a battle of attrition except one of your dps has to go until you're the last person left and taq still has 10+ people online at all times

Battle of attrition and the bigger guild with more manpower is given a headstart with a CD means you wont stand a chance

[grand zenith]

Longer cooldown would just make you hold a terr for like 5 minutes more

[pulsar sage]

You did not read this post

[grand zenith]

I did, and the suggestion is pretty horrid

[pulsar sage]

When did I say I wanted a longer cd

[vague grove]

There are several thousands of millions of peoples on the planet, surely you can recruit some of them to alleviate the pressure off your squad

[pulsar sage]

I have literally been advocating all this time for a shorter cd 😭

[pulsar sage]

Just become a bigger guild 💯 💯

[vague grove]

Besides TAq can't possibly chain your claim, it'd cost far too many emeralds..

[grand zenith]

Sorry for wording wrong, "having a cd disparity"

[vague grove]

This situation is unrealistic.

[grand zenith]

You don't get more members by having a different war cd

[pulsar sage]

btw are you trolling or not? i genuinely cant notice now

[pulsar sage]

it gives you time to react and not lose hq

[vague grove]

I have more experience than you in guild wars, I know what I'm talking about and I'm not one to participate in such debauchery and immoral behaviors.

[pulsar sage]

awesome you're trolling 😻 i was genuinely scared there for a second that you actually meant that 😭

[vague grove]

If you set up your defenses correctly, each attack by TAq must cost many emeralds.

Dismissive and immature.

[pulsar sage]

Oh you're serious lol my bad

Ok so like

I get that and all
But 400k emeralds in storage

[vague grove]

They'd be very vulnerable if they spent all of those on attacking your tiny claim.

There's always a light at the end of the tunnel if you can strategize correctly

[pulsar sage]

They don't even need to spend a quarter of that to get a tiny claim 😭

[sweet crescent]

Is BFS cheating?

[shrewd plume]

just pull a s5-s7 gks and make a wheel of war 😂

[pulsar sage]

You're taking words at 100% face value Bard

[vague grove]

There is a 40% tax imposed on the attack cost if you had help with your grand venture into the Realm of light by having a friend take over the Light Forest.

[sweet crescent]

I think what you want to not admit is that your guild isnt just small but also worse at wars and the eco part of warring

[pulsar sage]

See this is exactly what I meant

[sweet crescent]

60% even!

[pulsar sage]

I think you just don't want to see a change

[vague grove]

That's quite the tax.

[pulsar sage]

It's not hard to take rol it's not hard to maintain rol but you're still at a massive disadvantage, it's much easier for bigger more active guilds

[sweet crescent]

A war can hold 5 people it doesnt matter how many more are online

[sweet crescent]

and big guilds should be punished for being big?

[vague grove]

No guild has its entire population participating in guild wars, think of it like a city, you have some bakers, some bankers, and the military.

[pulsar sage]

You can have multiple wars at once, and more activity means by the time those 5 players get burnt out there's another 5 players to continue where they left off

[pulsar sage]

They should be at an even playing field, this change also benefits bigger guilds, giving them a faster reaction time; but the benefit to smaller guilds is greater which sets them to an even playing field

[jaunty basin]

taq might have 10 people on but only 3 that can war

not all taq members have all war builds ready to go

[sweet crescent]

this change actively harms warring cause it makes hq sniping near impossible

which is an activity mostly smaller guilds do since they dont hold a claim 🤯

[pulsar sage]

I am providing constructive feedback on the static 10m cd, you're welcome to speculate on potential solutions, but literally anything would be better than a static 10m cd

It doesn't have to be dependent on the distance from HQ, it's just a potential solution I'm providing

[sweet crescent]

You just said anything would be better while admitting your proposed solution is worse?

[pulsar sage]

If you read the whole post, at the last line you would see I mentioned that

[jaunty basin]

this is definetly worse than 10m cd

[sweet crescent]

How does that make any sense

[jaunty basin]

it wouldnt make it easier for smaller guilds

it would do the opposite

bc big guilds literally wouldnt get wiped

[pulsar sage]

I did not say that
I said anything would be better than 10m static cd
My potential solution in my eyes is one of them but they don't fit for all people
You are welcome to provide different solutions
The main post of this thread is criticizing the 10m cd, the potential solution is something the CT can make up or you can suggest

[jaunty basin]

please give me atleast 3 solutions that are better than 10m cd

if anything is better

do you think no cd is better?

[sweet crescent]

If there is an easy solution that would fix this issue why do you think its not implemented yet?

[vague grove]

A longer cooldown if your guild is below level 85 or so would help filter out the map.

[pulsar sage]

Because the majority of players don't participate in warring, Wynncraft doesn't get as much player retention from updating or reworking wars as it does from reworking earlygame quests or endgame quests or activities with far more player activity, such as lootruns / raids

Thats why you see wynncraft always updating earlygame/endgame but midgame is sort of abandoned, there's not as much player retention. Once the player is hooked in the earlygame, chances are they won't leave until endgame

[covert yoke]

maybe if they made warring better more people would do it 🔥

anyway if you reduce the cooldown of terrs when theyre further away from hq that means its basically impossible to attack anyone in a different area of the map if your hq isnt right next to them effectively

unless im completely missing the point

[pulsar sage]

Lesser static cd, cd based on distance from the ATTACKERS hq (so the further it is the shorter the cd) which makes more sense than the first soluton I provided I can't lie, cd based on the amount of conns of the terr (so the more conns the cd is longer/shorter, whichever one you think is better)

[covert yoke]

and that would be a bit silly I think

[pulsar sage]

you right
do you have any better solutions

[scenic prairie]

Shorter cooldowns will make hq sniping impossible
Then exactly what you dont want will happen
Big guilds become actually untouchable

[jaunty basin]

lesser static cd is the most constructive suggestion i have ever heard
cd based on distance from attacker is what geb said makes it impossible to attack from far away which is no bueno
cd based on the amount of conns seems like the best idea untill yuo realise most conns in a claim+hq have a lot of conns which makes attacking either really good or really bad

[pulsar sage]

What if it checked for HQ?

[jaunty basin]

what

[pulsar sage]

like if HQ is one of the conns, or conns of HQ are one of the conns

[jaunty basin]

simplify

[pulsar sage]

What if before calculating the cd depending on the amount of conns, it checked if the HQ is one of the conns and amplified the CD

[covert yoke]

I dont think making the system more complicated to understand is helpful at all

[pulsar sage]

I don't think that's very complicated

I'd argue that solution is better than the one in original post as well

[scenic prairie]

My man has no idea how complicated the system already is
There is absolutely no need to make it even more complex

[pulsar sage]

It's just a 10m static cd rn how is it complex 😭

Eco in general isn't complex either

Anyways we're going off track, you guys can downvote this post if you don't like it or you can provide potential solutions I'm leaving now

[scenic prairie]

????????????

[rustic pecan]

is this an out of season april fool's joke?

[neon pagoda]

That is a reflection of the state of warring

[lethal mica]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-guys-not-have-a-phone-blizzard-diablo-gif-5097388828827651695

[rustic pecan]

do you guys not have territories???

[pulsar sage]

What do you find bad about the post

[rustic pecan]

what you're describing already exists in the inverse

the attack timer is dictated by the distance which serves the exact same purpose as changing the cooldown

[tawdry sleet]

💀

[waxen pawn]

wtf

i just got word of this

is he just saying its easier to attack a guild with 8 terrs than a guild with 50?

[waxen pawn]

they are able to reclaim from gremlins, they werent hq sniped in 40 days, if some1 snipes them then a duo CANT reclaim

[rustic pecan]

it kinda is tho lol

[frail shell]

i thought this was a buuns suggestion based of pfp but no its just closier

[hybrid terrace]

i think he finds wiping to be the main purpose of wars when in reality it doesn’t matter if a guild has 5 terrs or 50, their claim gets giga fucked if their hq is sniped either way

like 40 vlows isn’t gonna help you do shit if you don’t have anyone able to countersnipe

[pulsar sage]

Nah I’m saying a guild with 8 territories isn’t even able to retake territories until they’re wiped, because you can chain 8 territories in under 10m

So they’re wiped before they’re even able to react

[pulsar sage]

??? Constructive criticism of the post or just don’t speak at all

[pulsar sage]

Not quite

The attack timer doesn’t matter when you chain

The cd is still the same, the point of the post is still the same

[pulsar sage]

I’m just saying because of the static 10 minute cd smaller territories aren’t even given a chance to react, because by the time you’re able to retake your entire claim is already wiped

[rustic pecan]

it does because not every territory is going to be exactly 1 minute longer than the last lol

[pulsar sage]

Not only is it insanely boring ( one war every 15 minutes ) but it’s also an uneven playing field

[pulsar sage]

Even if they weren’t exactly 1 minute, it’s still effective minimum 12m (including the 2m attack timer) which provides leeway

[waxen pawn]

you can also insta wipe a guild with 60 terrs

[rustic pecan]

i don't even get what this thread is honestly. you're not even suggesting anything

[waxen pawn]

you just need enough warrers

[rustic pecan]

could you please clearly and articulately state what change you are proposing

[waxen pawn]

didnt hich wipe tnl 35 terrs in like 20min with only 5 people?

drysnipe and then 5 soloers, if you have 10 soloers you can also wipe a 60 terr guild

[covert yoke]

If they're afk you can wipe anyone

[pulsar sage]

Static 10m cd doesn’t give small claims time to react when they’re attacked until they’re wiped, but this isn’t something big claims are affected by (because by the time you reach the 10th territory the cd is over) which is sort of unfair

I’m suggesting a different way of calculating cd (making it dynamic based on some factors) to even the playing field and make cd longer/shorter depending on the importance of the territory, but this is just a potential solution. You’re welcome to come up with other ideas

[rustic pecan]

give an example of how changing the cooldown to be dynamic would make it more fair ❓

[pulsar sage]

We already had this same exact convo, scroll up

[rustic pecan]

blud there's like 200 messages i aint reading allat

[pulsar sage]

Lmao good point

Ok I think changing cd to be dependent on the conns of the territory is a pretty good change, because shorter cd for less important terms and longer cd for more important

Which means it positively affects both big and small guilds alike

With dynamic CD you wouldn’t be wiped before you’re given time to react

And hq sniping wouldn’t be affected negatively by this either

[rustic pecan]

so you think less conns should equal shorter cooldown?

[frail shell]

ok imo this is bad please get better ideas

[pulsar sage]

yea, unless one of the conns is hq

[pulsar sage]

Still not constructive
You're saying this post is bad but you haven't clarified why

[frail shell]

its bad because you're dumb

[pulsar sage]

Or what I misunderstood

[pulsar sage]

What the hell 😭

[rustic pecan]

then this does the exact opposite of what you're saying it will. shorter cooldowns for lower connection claims means that large claims will be much harder to attack 💀

[pulsar sage]

Could you explain how that happens

Because I'm pretty sure a longer CD on a terr with more conns would mean you get to keep the territory for longer

Unless I entirely misunderstood what you meant

[rustic pecan]

read the message again i explain exactly what i mean

[pulsar sage]

How would it be much harder to attack though

[rustic pecan]

"shorter cooldowns for lower connection claims means that large claims will be much harder to attack"

[pulsar sage]

How does that translate I don't get it???

[rustic pecan]

for the sake of example i will just assume you'd want to add +1m to cooldown per territory

[pulsar sage]

Sure

[rustic pecan]

Thanos would have a cooldown of 14m whereas PTT would have 16m

[pulsar sage]

That assumes a base of 10 minutes though

[rustic pecan]

it doesn't matter which base you use 💀

you could use no base and just have the cooldown directly correlate to the connections

[pulsar sage]

Naturally I want lesser duration CD, so it'd be more like a base of 6 - 7 minutes

[rustic pecan]

what you're describing literally makes holding a smaller claim far harder than a large one

[pulsar sage]

How so

[rustic pecan]

because you're basing the cooldowns on the size of the claim

[pulsar sage]

Not necessarily

[rustic pecan]

💀

[pulsar sage]

So?

You aren't gonna find a 6conn anywhere in a small claim

Heck good luck even finding a 5conn lol

[rustic pecan]

take an IQ test

[pulsar sage]

4conn will usually end up being HQ

[pulsar sage]

??? Brother I genuinely don't understand what you're saying

Explain to me instead of insulting me if I misunderstood something

[rustic pecan]

i explained it three separate times

you not understanding is just you being a little special

i'll explain it a 4th time if you need

[pulsar sage]

Yes please

[rustic pecan]

you're proposing a change that directly ties a territory's cooldown to the number of connections it has

[pulsar sage]

Ok yea that's correct

[rustic pecan]

so by that exactly logic that you have said is correct, claims with higher numbers of connections (bigger claims) will, on average, have higher cooldowns than claims with lower numbers of connections

[pulsar sage]

Yup

[rustic pecan]

there you have it

[pulsar sage]

Lower cd is beneficial for the defender, higher cd is not

You can take a larger amount of territories before cd is over if it's higher

With lower cd you're given a chance to react, which is exactly what's needed in smaller claims

[rustic pecan]

no it's not lol

you want your territories to be on cooldown as long as possible

[pulsar sage]

Are you talking from the perspective of the attacker or defender

[rustic pecan]

the defender

if you're defending you want to hold your territories as long as possible to prevent attackers from taking it

[pulsar sage]

Oh you misunderstood

I meant like once attacker takes a territory, it's beneficial for the defending guild that it has a shorter cd, so opposing guild can't wipe before defending guild has a chance to retake

[rustic pecan]

to reclaim sure but what you're suggesting would make it heavily defender sided

by the logic (which you agreed with btw) of the cooldown being based on the number of connections

if i take a territory in another guild's claim, the number of connections is 0

[pulsar sage]

Right now it heavily favors attackers, but you don't need to fully wipe before cd is over to actually have a chance at taking

[pulsar sage]

Let's assume you take PTT and only PTT, the number of conns You have is 0 sure, but PTT has 6 territories that have resources going through it

That's what I mean by conns

Not like conns you own, just conns the territory has (if that makes sense)

[rustic pecan]

that is not what you said skull

i'm not gonna sit here and try to convince you how shit the idea is because you keep changing the idea over and over when someone points out a flaw with it

[pulsar sage]

Must've worded it wrongly then, but that is what I intended to say

[rustic pecan]

no you didn't lol, you realised a flaw with it then changed the idea mid discussion

[pulsar sage]

You can literally go read the post

[rustic pecan]

the post doesn't say anything

it's pure fluff and filler and it seems like you don't really know much about warring

[pulsar sage]

You literally even said my idea here word for word

Seems like you just don't want to see a change, so you must find a flaw

[rustic pecan]

yes and that was under the assumption that the cooldown was based on the number of connections a guild owns. that's what connections are

[pulsar sage]

When did I change this

I literally even explained this to czad hours ago 😭

[rustic pecan]

i don't like the idea because it makes it heavily defender sided. even defenders don't like the idea when it clearly benefits them

[pulsar sage]

I didn't just make up this idea right when you came into this thread and I didn't change it when you addressed an issue with it

If you scroll up you can see exactly what I mean the entire time. All I've been doing is repeating the same answers when the same questions pop up

And I have conceded points, it's not like I'm horrified of being wrong 😭

If somebody genuinely has a good point I'm down to delete this thread rn but I haven't been convinced yet

[rustic pecan]

yeah because

You could also alternatively just reduce the terr cd or make it dependent on something else, just don't make it a static 10 minute cooldown that heavily Heavily favors the attacking guild
is not a suggestion. you're just saying that you think it should change in some way

[pulsar sage]

But this channel isn't meant for suggestions, it's meant for feedback

That's why people make fun of "add content" posts 😭

[rustic pecan]

that's exactly what this thread is lol

you're just saying "make cd dependent on something" and when i asked you (and used pretty specific definitions) you changed it because i pointed out a flaw

[pulsar sage]

This thread is pointing out how detrimental 10m cd is to warring, I provided various potential solutions throughout this thread, but the main post is to point out how big of a flaw a static cd is

[pulsar sage]

Yea I would like CD to be dynamic, I brought up different ways it can be dynamic, specifically one idea I liked (which is the conns one), but the main idea is to have it be dynamic rather than a 10m static cd

Once again I did not change my idea just because you came dude

[rustic pecan]

do you know what a conn is 💀

[pulsar sage]

Connection

Territory that has a resource line connecting to another

[rustic pecan]

so when a guild says "their HQ is 0conn" that means the territory has no trade routes?

[jaunty basin]

when will you realise that the only reason you want this is bc you keep getting wiped out of rol

[rustic pecan]

LMFAO

[pulsar sage]

Terminology can be used in different ways

[pulsar sage]

Ion even war anymore what the hell 💀

[rustic pecan]

kinda shows ngl

[jaunty basin]

there must be a reason behind this...

[pulsar sage]

I only stopped a few months ago it's not like I stopped in 1.19

[jaunty basin]

such as getting wiped out of rol...

[pulsar sage]

It's just boring man I don't know what to tell you

[pulsar sage]

What 😭

[sweet crescent]

You literally opened this post with talking about getting wiped from rol

[pulsar sage]

Nope

I said it's hard to maintain smaller claims and I used RoL as an example

[rustic pecan]

also even if we based this idea on your altered suggestion, it'd still make it easier to pummel smaller guilds lol

[pulsar sage]

The post is still there btw

[sweet crescent]

rol is not a claim

[rustic pecan]

if it was purely based on the number of trading routes the territory has, ROL / Thanos / SE would be easy while DF/LF/Ocean/Sky/Olux/Llev/Cork/WestWynn/EastWynn would still remain in a similar state

[sweet crescent]

its 8 terrs that dont even have a city

[jaunty basin]

honestly yea

[pulsar sage]

You know exactly what I mean dude stop going off track

[jaunty basin]

a claim without a city isnt a claim

[pulsar sage]

Good point lol

[jaunty basin]

smaller claim is like thanos or smth

[rustic pecan]

ok so there's a critical flaw in your suggestion?

[jaunty basin]

or jungle

[rustic pecan]

that's why i don't agree with it 🤯

[pulsar sage]

Yea you just pointed it out

I mean I still think 10m static cd is like. horrendous game design but you have Convinced me so

I'll delete this thread

[rustic pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/cristiano-ronaldo-award-winning-walking-gif-24664103

[waxen pawn]

this would buff taq claim, all of aldo is like 2con we will have like insane timers on those now no?

[hybrid terrace]

what was the impetus for the suggestion?

like make mega alliances more powerful?

[sweet crescent]

no, just specifically buff guilds holding rol

[hybrid terrace]

i mean i would agree with a rol buff tbh

[waxen pawn]

He wants to buff rol so no guild can Just come in and q all terrs 1min appart

[rustic pecan]

it was literally a nerf for ROL lol

[waxen pawn]

idk i dont understand his idea

i feel like its Just something, cant say if its a nerf or buff

[rustic pecan]

it was make the cooldown on territories based on the number of trading routes it has

[waxen pawn]

In Addition to 1min stacking up every time then?

So if i attack like cinf outskirts i have an 8min queue on an external?

that Just sounds like bad cooking

[rustic pecan]

idfk it was confusing and made no sense since it provides bigger claims a buff which is the exact opposite of what he said he was suggesting it for

[waxen pawn]

or is ir Just 1con terr 2min timer
2con terr 4min
3con 6min
etc

[rustic pecan]

idk exact numbers

[waxen pawn]

no matter where you are attacking in the map

[covert yoke]

its not about queueing its about the cooldown after taking

I think what he is trying to say and im interpreting a bit here is

make cooldown longer thank 10 minutes so the attacker cant respond as quickly OR

[rustic pecan]

i was just confused because the title is "distance of territory from HQ" which is literally how attack timer works

[covert yoke]

make the cooldown shorter than 10 minutes so the defender can respond quicker BUT ONLY when the terr taken was far away from the attackers hq

[rustic pecan]

yeah but nobody attacks like that

now i rarely see people attack from another claim. usually its just spawning on their conns

[hybrid terrace]

😼

[covert yoke]

people attack rol from their claim quite often 🤯

therefore the creation of this post (allegedly)

[pulsar sage]

What the hell 😭😭

The creation of this post was not because of Rol whoever said that pulled it out of their ass