2.0.4 Constructive Feedback Megathread

[mortal stag]

true there are some that would cry

im just saying it how i personaly think it would be best

which would be way less rng involved around getting a good lootrun and mythics being way rarer at the same time

[sacred oriole]

where were u wen gamblin best die
I was in corkus afking tm when phone ring
"Gambling beast is kil"
"no"

[humble oar]

They can do 5 mythics to scrap but the result would still be random mythic since they are the highest rarity already, that would make the mythics with cheap prices rn and shit rolls have some worth to buy since scrap potential

[tropic osprey]

then that still just lowers price of the current more expensive mythics

[sacred oriole]

Tbf the change to gambling beast is fair, but it still sucks. A reasonable godrun is now expected to have 25% less pulls, less rerolls and require more time because going high pull high reroll in a single run is not really feasible. And a lot of missions still feel bad to pick and you'll need to pick those because good missions are unreasonably rare (expecting running without equilibrium is going to be much more painful in this hotfix)

[tropic osprey]

thats good

[sacred oriole]

Also calling this a hotfix is really weird lol, like a day one patch that came a week after release

[mortal stag]

am i missing smth or was there no hotfix #1

[round oak]

festival was also hotfix 1 i think

[humble oar]

Now i know why they nerfed lootrunning since no one is playing their shitty seasonal events since everyone is focus on lring

[tropic osprey]

i know more people who play the minigame than lr

[mortal stag]

the minigame is less rng dependant than lr atleast..

[sacred oriole]

Minigame offers a rare item as a reward unlike lr

[solar hornet]

No one answered u but I think so

Also I think those stats r fucked cause it’s vastly skewed by the “meta” of ppl mass mob grinding on double loot worlds

That shit lasted for like 3+ months when silverbull came out and u got like 16+ totems a day

[mortal stag]

yeah that was hella unbalanced

[cold basin]

also, so many more people are lootrunning now than before

[mortal stag]

and its so much easier for even the most casual player to get a lot of mythics

which is nice but its a lil too much

[solar hornet]

^

[mortal stag]

am i the only one that absolutely hates the way salted words patch notes

what does that even mean? grey was practicaly guaranteed to appear every time you werent doing a mission so how much more often is it going to appear

[solar hornet]

I hope it means they show up later

[novel prawn]

yea can we get like more specific details

[novel prawn]

do we know for sure tho

[solar hornet]

No cause salted writes the patch notes in Norwegian then shittily google translates them back to English to be the official patch notes

But from everything I’ve talked to Ct about it seems Gray can spawn later

[whole rampart]

🥶

[cold basin]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[runic wren]

this is a good satire post

[runic wren]

I noticed this too but I think it's funnier to just not report it

[minor hare]

"updated Dyeing Eye's appearance merchant booth"
do I have a language deficiency or is this supposed to be incomprehensible

[runic wren]

It's a typo

The merchant booth isn't meant to be there

It's just meant to be Updated Dyeing Eye's appearance

[river roost]

i was so confused by that

[whole rampart]

The merchant booth and dyeing eye lines should be swapped

[solar hornet]

ALSO FOR EVERYONE WHO CARES GREYS STILL DO NOT SPAWN AFTER 30

[mortal stag]

so this meant absolutely nothing and salted wrote it just to have some extra words in the hotfix? epic

im not too suprised but still 🔥

[solar hornet]

while "skipping" greys they showed up almost everytime

of i had to guess its something like "20" greys in the "pool" but everytime it shows it i takes it out of "pool" or when 3 are take "pool" is also maxed

but that seems like so much effort to add a secondary pool where colors are counted even if not taken

all i know i got 2 challanges this run :/

rlly rlly lame

[novel prawn]

• removed hero brine

[solar hornet]

did they up the dmg of lutho

im getting one shot by like everythiung now

with like 40k ehp

[hazy quartz]

wynn team designing the lutho lrc to be as unapproachable as possible while giving it the most mid pool every single refresh

[round oak]

agi or defense?

bc agi ehp is fake news

[solar hornet]

…

[humble oar]

This tbh

[mortal stag]

tbf i feel like thats the idea behind a good portion of the balancing that happens
maybe salted has a poster in his room saying "fun = bad"

[hazy quartz]

real

[mortal stag]

like its so rare that after any kind of balancing im sudenly having more fun, its usualy the oposite

[solar hornet]

^

even the boon balance stuff kinda annoyed me

the boon buffs vs curse buffs r so insane its way harder to get runs started but way easier to hit the "hump" where u just insta mega murder if u can stack curses

"properly"

[solar hornet]

also 100 agility 40 def

[round oak]

yea agi ehp moment
just get luckier

[solar hornet]

or maybe balance the game so 150 def isnt mandatory on every build....

idk i made a build for MH the "camp meant for fighting" and lutho just melts me like butter in texas

[whole rampart]

Which lutho challenges?

[solar hornet]

1 sec

[whole rampart]

The ones i struggle with the most are eyeball forest slay (wave mobs), the gate defend and the city slay (though i can avoid getting most of the time with warp)

[solar hornet]

witch one shot me, exemplar is very hard to fight if ur falling behind, this challenge is just stupidly hard

eek the ss look bad

ah i dont wanna reformat im to lazy

[whole rampart]

Ig i havent played tpcoalesced/tpcondensed after rebalance

Tbf for most challenges i usually either run in circles or knockback enemies so hard that they cant hit me

[solar hornet]

again this is like 40k ehp on challenge 7 getting one shot

bruh its ranged mobs 80% of the time

how is shaman suppose to dodge range shots i swear oml

without just hiding behind a block

[whole rampart]

Idk cope or smth, infiltrate salteds home and hold him at gunpoint (i dont endorse the latter)

[solar hornet]

fr i think about it

[mortal stag]

how do you have only 40k ehp with 40 def 100 agi and 10k hp

[solar hornet]

does the math work out to like 25k? i forgot at what point i looked at my ehpit might have been after another health boon

[hazy quartz]

all my homies hate
graveyard of the thousand
reject grove
statue necropolis
condensed
sludge locus
melting architecture

i dont know which other ones are cancer now after 2.0.4

[mortal stag]

yeah even with 4x fabled tomes its like 32k

[sacred oriole]

Wynncraft adding ultrakill references and then patching mostly harmless bugs/oversights the players enjoy be like:

[novel prawn]

orange beacons are giga rare now for some reason not sure if its just me

[mortal stag]

They are just weird like everything else is
If you get one at the start and take it then you can easily get like 6 more in a row otherwise u might get none

[novel prawn]

aqua effects are also lost if you /kill

[mortal stag]

Ofc why would salted fix a bug (that's been here since 2.0.3) that harms the players when he can instead patch stuff that are fun

[sacred oriole]

They become fairly common after ~60 chals

[sacred harbor]

orange beacons:
appear at the start and are common or
not show up until 60 challenges
and incase you got down to 3 choices ya also need to wait till 60 challenges

[drifting hill]

sounds wynncrab to me

[solar hornet]

opinion. keep mythic rates the same/nerf them slightly but inc rates for amp stuff just slightly

[whole rampart]

what exactly is amp stuff?

[solar hornet]

The corkian amplification stuff

The “consumable” mythic drops

[whole rampart]

oh

[mortal stag]

i truly love mission rng so fucking much, usualy i get gambling beast left right and center when i dont need it but NOW that i have 161 pulls sacraficed i didnt get gambling beast ONCE from the first 3 choices and then 3 greys that were ALL aqua boosted for 5 choices

[sacred harbor]

love it more

[mortal stag]

its truly amazing to spend over 150 lootruns to finaly get the lootrun you want just for the very next lootrun to spit in your face and call you ugly

[hazy quartz]

when can you rr missions on god

[solar hornet]

Fr

[mortal stag]

and i finaly get gambling beast on the next lootrun just to never get a single green beacon after that 🙂

why am i even lootruning, at this point league of legends is more fun and less irritating than this

[solar hornet]

^

[solar hornet]

I went to bed at 7pm yesterday cause lring sounding so MEH to me

Idk when is wynncraft adding decked out from hermit craft fr fr

[mortal stag]

do you not have other games to play or stuff to do
i cant imagine going to sleep at 7pm unless im hella sick

[solar hornet]

Depresso

[mortal stag]

but i aint even kidding i started playing ranked league again because of how shitty 2.0.4 feels

[solar hornet]

I’ve been thinking of doing the same

[sacred harbor]

i just played btb

[languid chasm]

idk what ill do after btb is gone
mabye another break from wyn is imminent

[solar hornet]

I love the 2.04 update

[solar hornet]

Idek who to ask but what is the direction 2.05 is taking?

Personally I really really hope they add is like 20 other grey missions and maybe ^ the cap by like +1-2

I pretty much only have 3 variations of doing lrs and 2/3 are boring and make me end the run early majority of the time

Or fuck I really want them to turn forgery into a proper rogue like

It has so much potential but just gets neglected idk why

[mortal stag]

God damn finally mythic rates reduction, it only took the entire economy getting obliterated for them to do it

[round oak]

Now its too late

[whole rampart]

and because salted is so nice and player loving he definitely told us by how much they were reduced 🙃

[mortal stag]

as if we knew the actual rates in the first place 😂

[whole rampart]

could have at least told us a relative number 😩

[mortal stag]

nope time to figure it out with #1130744061200961536 again

except way less people lr now so its gona be hard

[river roost]

Why are there no boons that give raw damage?

it seems like this would make lower-base weapons actually usable (not that there's a reason when mythics are so cheap)

but why wasn't that implemented from the start?

[sacred harbor]

same thing as spell but better on mage and warrior which are already the best two classes to lr on

[river roost]

hmmm. that's good reasoning why not to add it now, but would that be the reasoning the devs used when making LRs initially?

[sacred harbor]

not gonna change much other than even more dmg boon types

CT also probably predicted mage and warrior being meta.

[mortal stag]

meh mage's best weapon scales better with spell%

[sacred harbor]

best wand for lr

[mortal stag]

and we are talking about lr boons

[sacred harbor]

not to the point of daggers, reliks and bows though

[mortal stag]

sure but it still scales better with spell% than raw as far as im aware

[whole rampart]

are you really disrespecting all the toxo posion lrers like that 🤬

[solar hornet]

Poison boon when

Tier attack boon when

Mana steal boon when

Maybe even jump boost boon when?

[sacred harbor]

yes

[sacred harbor]

*never

[solar hornet]

I wanna use the stupid Mid when lring but it’s useless unless I wanna make a funny stealing build

[sacred harbor]

greed is goated in lr

[whole rampart]

Tbh thatd just be mostly useless and actively detrimental on some builds

[sacred harbor]

if anything ct is gonna remove some boon types

[whole rampart]

You think?

[sacred harbor]

they removed melee boons in beta

though idk any current boons they would want to remove

[solar hornet]

Tier attack would hurt what exactly? Powder charge rate?

[whole rampart]

Steal builds, powder specials, pphanim users, that one fallen node

[solar hornet]

Oh ya I forgot stealing is weird

[whole rampart]

I meant (mana/life)steal

But ig normal stealing too

[solar hornet]

It is weird to me having higher attack making thing like “life steal” significantly worse

[whole rampart]

Its just logical tho

[solar hornet]

Im not sure how it’s calculated exactly but like it feels 40% worse or something like that

I mean like it doesn’t feel like it’s “scaled” correctly

[whole rampart]

Youd just have to melee the entire time so you cant spelly thats why

[solar hornet]

Ya ig I never thought of it like that

[sacred oriole]

Just like ws

[sacred harbor]

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