#The Void and its (great) unused design

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sharp basalt
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While unconfirmed, Witherhead is implied to probably be an Olm

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Although the "gray skin" comment in the Ragni Library is really old
Old enough that the design of Olms probably weren't even conceptualized at that point

warm pulsar
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Olm?

sharp basalt
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Yeah?
Gray skin and all

warm pulsar
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Idk what that means

sharp basalt
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This is truly a bruh moment

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Olm are like half of Wynncraft's lore what the hell

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I don't have the mental capacity to summarize literally 90% of the main lore I'll be back later

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@warm pulsar Okay quick question

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Have you been to Time Valley

warm pulsar
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Oh like years ago so basically no I don’t remember almost anything

sharp basalt
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Another quick question

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Have you been to the Silent Expanse

warm pulsar
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Yes

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I have 5 classes at 105

warm pulsar
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I think I got the tldr of that area tho

sharp basalt
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One last question

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Have you noticed a really, really tiny possibly unnoticeable obscure pinprick on the map labelled "Ruined Olmic City" whose towering buildings cover a literal third of the valley

warm pulsar
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Yes

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I was gonna ask by olm did u mean olmic

sharp basalt
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Okay how the hell do I start this

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The Olm are directly or at least partly responsible for the creation of the WynnExcavation Crystals, a quartet of all-powerful artifacts that they used to escape the Realm of Dern

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The Olms hide the crystals all around the world, some of them fleeing to the Dernel Jungle and setting up the Ancient City

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The Olms are like, one of the ancient civilizations

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I was wondering why the hell you haven't mentioned them when talking about the Colossus

warm pulsar
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I thought tldr DB showed up and stole their sole but gave them peace

sharp basalt
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Wot

warm pulsar
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I thought olmic guys were also immortal like the elves but something about the souls I forget

sharp basalt
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Where does it ever say that they were immortal

warm pulsar
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R they not?

sharp basalt
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That doesnt answer the question

warm pulsar
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Like the grey guys we see in lutho?

sharp basalt
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Where in-game does it say that they were immortal

warm pulsar
sharp basalt
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We didn't talk to anyone at the end of A Journey Beyond

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How the hell did you manage to gaslight yourself into thinking half the lore you made up is canon

warm pulsar
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Where do you learn what happened to the citizens I can’t remember where I read it? Maybe the secret discovery that gives the bracelet that gives a lot of intelligence

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It’s cause half the time I’m doing something for an item and half reading the quest/lore but I try to remember stuff that sounds cool

lone mantle
warm pulsar
sharp basalt
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Those are... the miners

lone mantle
sharp basalt
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Aledar says it himself

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Who on earth do you think dug out the Abandoned Mines

lone mantle
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the olm aren’t immortal
we literally see one die in that one time valley cave

sharp basalt
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Anyways I'm pretty sure the only Olm we know that is alive is like

Garoth

warm pulsar
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I thought it said something like “we eventually gave up against the fight from the DB or something like that, then it takes their soul and they talk about peace or something” I just kinda equated that to immortality

sharp basalt
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Wait is Garoth the last Olm
That's kinda sad

lone mantle
sharp basalt
warm pulsar
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Also if Olm didn’t make the abandon mines how did they leave the SE area?

sharp basalt
warm pulsar
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Like wouldn’t they be locked in by the mountain or something

sharp basalt
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Idk magic
Maybe they blocked it off after they left

lone mantle
sharp basalt
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Probably idk

warm pulsar
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Why do the humans in Wynn know magic?

sharp basalt
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They have mana

warm pulsar
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How is it “secret” in fruma then?

sharp basalt
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Idk ask the Queen

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Maybe the Queen doesn't like the people using magic

warm pulsar
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I’d assume if the queen was the only one who “knew” magic, how did some random ass soldier they got rid of know it

sharp basalt
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I swear to god 90% of your questions can be solved with "Play the damn game"

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Because this was all explained head-on in the quests

warm pulsar
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It doesn’t make sense to me unless there are like 8 different magic systems

sharp basalt
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It's just magic

warm pulsar
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How is Wynn magic different from fruma magic?

lone mantle
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bro buuns if you have questions about the game play it first
all of your questions are answered in quests, discoveries, raids, and caves

sharp basalt
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It isn't I assume

warm pulsar
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It seemed to be described to be “different”

lone mantle
sharp basalt
warm pulsar
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So how tf is bob able to “learn” the magic that fruma keeps so secret

sharp basalt
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Because like
A lot of the things you thought were canon literally never appeared or were confirmed anywhere

warm pulsar
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^

sharp basalt
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You have a really skewed vision of Wynncraft's lore man

warm pulsar
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I took this as bobs spells and fruma spells/ magic are different

sharp basalt
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Again
How do we know that it's different

We've never seen Fruma magic

warm pulsar
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Idk I’m taking his word for it?

sharp basalt
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Whose word

warm pulsar
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Earthbrine

lone mantle
warm pulsar
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Yes when I asked if that was “fruma magic” I took the “no” as the answer to that

lone mantle
warm pulsar
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When I say “fruma magic” I’m just trying to say “the power the queen uses”

acoustic mason
sharp basalt
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Anyways uh

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Back to the Olm

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Is Garoth the only surviving confirmed Olm

rain swift
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Not after I get a level 30 class he isn't

sharp basalt
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Why doesn’t Garoth just close the door to the Sanctum? Is he stupid? /s

winged marsh
rich spear
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@warm pulsar don't you think you've derailed this thread hard enough

winged marsh
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@warm pulsar play on your hic assassin, pay attention to the quests and discoveries you complete

sharp basalt
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We were just discussing lore stuff

Talking about stuff unrelated to the feedback thread happens all the time anyway

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Anyways the thread question for the Ahms void (or whatever the hell that place is called) has already been answered technically so

warm pulsar
warm pulsar
winged marsh
warm pulsar
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Ty

warm pulsar
wooden creek
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theory theory theory theory

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wowza

rugged viper
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idk about immortal, but their body is a lifeless husk, controlled by the obelisk, while their soul still remains in "happy lutho"

warm pulsar
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Oh also you guys are saying all magic is the same magic, as in like the magic the elves use is the same as Wynn magic?

muted cedar
warm pulsar
muted cedar
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Not immortal, and also not impervious

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Their bodies, unknown to their soul, are taken from Lutho sometimes and mutated by That Which Coalesces, as seen with the Mutated/Aberrated Lutho Citizen mobs and the cave's description

warm pulsar
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How are people getting to lutho to take the citizens I thought “we” as in the player only recently opened the path to lutho

muted cedar
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A common misconception is that Happy Lutho was what Lutho used to look like, but this isn't true. Lutho has always been a shit hole and always will be

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And it's not a person taking the citizens, its a creature of Darkness

warm pulsar
muted cedar
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named That Which Coalesces

warm pulsar
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That’s the slime cave thing right? With the giant?

rugged viper
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yes

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iirc

warm pulsar
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How does it have the power to leave lutho? And why don’t we see it anywhere else then?

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As far as I’m aware*

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Also is there like a “reason” the portal to Dern is where is it? Like RoL portal was at the “old tree guardian” (I still don’t fully understand why killing a tree opened the RoL) but what was special about olmic/lutho area that made the DB claim that area?

muted cedar
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what the fuck are you talking about

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its a creature of darkness

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its not from lutho, and theres nothing stopping anyone who has control over their body to leave lutho. You enter and leave lutho all the time

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Aledar enters and leaves lutho. The only reason everybody is there because its the only safe place in the entire silent expanse

warm pulsar
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By “lutho” I mean the whole SE area

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I’m probably miss understanding something again

warm pulsar
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If everything is just happening in SE tho that would make sense

rugged viper
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Didn't the portal appear in SE because of the olms messing around with the crystal(?)

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I don't completely remember

warm pulsar
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Crystal? Like similar type of crystal in the void by sky islands?

rugged viper
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like

warm pulsar
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Also ty for everyone answering my question, obviously I’ve missed a big chunk of the lore. Tbh it’s just hard to find direct answers to some of these questions, it’s not like a general google search is gonna know about the specific of wynncraft lore and reading the wiki is like searching through 80 different text boxes to just to find the “interesting” or “important” parts

rugged viper
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the ones that wynnex was messing with

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something something the olm messed with the crystal and caused a disaster of some kind

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but idr what it is exactly

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oh nvm

warm pulsar
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Is this like the same crystals that the Wynn mining sight stuff is about?

rugged viper
warm pulsar
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Oh so we don’t know why the portal formed?

rugged viper
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it occured at the same time as the light portal. The light portal forming was the catalyst for the dern portal to form

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its just we dont know why it formed in SE specifically ig(?)

warm pulsar
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I’m confused if they original inhabitants are alive today how are they not “immortal”?

rugged viper
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However, one Olm named Garoth was stubborn and chose to stay in Time Valley, essentially forming a pocket dimension that is immune to the passage of time, known as the Timelost Sanctum. Garoth still resides within the sanctum to the present day.

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maybe the others were kept alive somehow as a result of the crystal's power(?)

warm pulsar
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Or did the dern portal and the RoL not open at the same time?

rugged viper
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they did

warm pulsar
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Ok that currently it’s like 1000 AP right? Or sometimes like that

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Does that mean Olm got screwed when the elves became immortal?

rugged viper
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basically when the portal to realm of light was opened, it caused a disturbance among the planes of influence. during this time, the realm of war (nether portal) in wynn was opened, and the portal to dern was opened in SE

warm pulsar
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I still don’t fully understand the lore, why did killing the old tree guardian open the realm of light? Like how were the elves even able to do it?

rugged viper
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Shrug

rugged viper
blazing crow
rugged viper
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Ok cool

muted cedar
muted cedar
rugged viper
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I know. Was using for clarity

muted cedar
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however yes, one portal opening causes a chain reaction that opens the others

rugged viper
warm pulsar
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I guess the concept just doesn’t make sense to me, if it was a battle from beyond time it’s self what happened to change the balance of that? Why is some tree dying able to tip the scale of cosmic balance?

rugged viper
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Shrug

warm pulsar
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Aaaah

stuck loom
warm pulsar
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Other question that didn’t get answered, people are saying the “magic” in Wynn is all the same, does that mean of an elf could potentially learn the “magic” that fruma uses?

lone mantle
sharp basalt
muted cedar
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in the content book you are given a description of the cave

sharp basalt
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Can you remind me what it was again

muted cedar
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Wanderers out of Lutho are taken and changed at [879, 79, -803], where sickness and toxicity are coalesced.

sharp basalt
sharp basalt
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Wait I misread changed sorry lol

muted cedar
sharp basalt
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Is that which Condenses perhaps related to TNA in any way

It’s the only Void-themed region further away from the rest

muted cedar
sharp basalt
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Did TNA get drunk one day and decided to snipe a spot like two miles away

muted cedar
sharp basalt
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Yeah those things don’t spawn near there

From my experience nothing spawns in that massive area outside of Lutho at the North side

sharp basalt
muted cedar
sharp basalt
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But Eyeball Forest

muted cedar
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what about it

sharp basalt
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Mobs are constantly seen hugging the Lutho walls

muted cedar
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Mobs don't spawn at the eyeball entrance to Lutho either, there's a big safe area

sharp basalt
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Strange

muted cedar
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Yeah because they run all the way over following players run to Lutho

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Would be the same in toxic wastes if the mobs there had the detection range that blinders do

sharp basalt
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Probably in part of the eye mobs having a frighteningly far aggro range

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Yeah that

muted cedar
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Blinders literally spawn and instantly aggro on you

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I've never seen, without vanish or invis, a blinder that is not running at a target

sharp basalt
sharp basalt
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I am also really disappointed in Buuns calling the entire valley Lutho

They said that they have several classes who have been in that place

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As for the portal opening thing
I guess we just have to accept all the funny stuff for now

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”We have 0 explanation of why this is this but it’s happening I guess”

muted cedar
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other stories would never do this books and movies would never do this

warm pulsar
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I mean can you blame people for theorizing about that. As in my original comment about maybe the ??? Meteors having more importance than we might think

stuck loom
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Peak of modern cominucation.

sharp basalt
muted cedar
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I know, it was directed at a certain someone who was complaining about it earlier

sharp basalt
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I see

dreamy halo
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Jesus christ

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Bro opens up a math textbook, only knows numbers up to 6, and postulates that the numbers 7 8 9 are actually graffiti marks that other students before them scribbled in

warm pulsar
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?

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when half the lore is hidden by secret discoveries ur really gonna be that snobby

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then the other half is "waiting to be explained"

lone mantle
winged marsh
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Everything on the wiki is based off ingame content, not speculations or stuff said from ct (except very few cases)

warm pulsar
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That was kinda in reference to my question about the colossus and the portals opening, I need to spend a day looking over the wiki again but when you have to dig through tons of semi useless dialogue to get the answer to ur question, it can feel very bloated

lone mantle
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bro
like I said
just play the game
all of the answers are in there
reading the wiki will not allow you to understand the lore

dreamy halo
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Literally just Google how to find secret discoveries like bruh

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U don't have to find them urself just follow some youtube videos instructions and explore the world

rain swift
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To be honest some questions are directly answered in quest dialogue
You hear very clearly in The Envoy PT2 why the Corkus mechs were hostile