Cheese spot "fixes"

[fiery pivot]

Obviously, cheese spots werent intended, but the way they have been "fixed" is not the right one, and has only resulted in uncountable players traveling trough SE to get actual brain damage from them blocking it up until maximum Y. instead of giving it a lazy fix why not just make them only appear when a person is in a challange there. Even if the barriers were a temporary solution, they are absolutely terrible pls fix

forgot to say too much dev time

[radiant palm]

Simply make it so that the player is force-tped to the center of the arena about every 5 or so seconds

Problem solved

[thick mesa]

i cant wait for ranged classes that cant turn into attack helicopters to suffer in the tiny zones

the balancing in wynn is just next level

oh we created content thats easy to counter by ranged classes? lets make it so the ranged classes are completely obsolete to fix this issue!

[sick pulsar]

Ive never understood why cheese spots got nerfed with barriers

Arent archers supposed to snipe down enemies from a safe distance? Hasnt this been the definition of an ”archer” for as long as gaming industry can remember?

Might as well put barriers above every single wall and tree so archers dont cheese when levelling

[thick mesa]

same thing with mages, they give mage this insane range and then also forbid you from using that range

if we gona do this then you might as well put barriers at every challenge 2 blocks above the ground so warriors and assasins cant fly as well

[sick pulsar]

And mage & archer dong have a tanky archetype so why is stuff designed to be in such close range…

[fiery pivot]

this is Not what my thread is about. This is about making forest of eyes Travelable

if you wish to complain about cheese spot removal go to another thread

i am simply against the barrier solution

[sick pulsar]

Im also against it and used an example

[thick mesa]

wait untill they realise puppet destroy challenge is still cheesable and they spam barriers there as well to make the olmic area also a labyrinth to travel

[onyx gate]

let's pretend this was not thoroughly talked about already

[thick mesa]

true and besides no matter how many times we talk about any of it they just wont care

[onyx gate]

they already stated it will stay like this until their proper fix is done

i mean its good we keep fighting for it, but they'Re already working on the solution

[thick mesa]

yeah it will stay like this cuz they refuse to admit they made a mistake

literaly all of the challenge cheeses that they "fixed" are still cheesable so they just made the entire map into one big barrier mess for nothing

[onyx gate]

still cheeseable? time for more barriers

[thick mesa]

wont suprise me

[ashen acorn]

it was stated that they will go at some point. No one denies that it is not a good solution or even doubts that, thus it will be replaced.

please be more conciderate about your conclusions and reasoning next time :)

[thick mesa]

its not a solution period

i can still cheese everything

all they did was put a bunch of barriers with 0 use everywhere

this is the equivalent of having a pipe leak at your house and the plumber puts a giant ass barrel in the middle of your hallway to collect the leaking water untill he finds a better solution but the water leaks out of the barrel anyway and you also have a giant ass barrel in your hallway blocking your path

(it made a little more sense in my head but the analogy still works)

[sick pulsar]

No temporary solution is sometimes preferable

[tall oracle]

Just shrimply give one mob in every challenge heavy pull spell

[thick mesa]

dont we alredy have that lmao

[onyx gate]

and flying mobs

[thick mesa]

just now i spent 5 minutes trying to figure out whats pulling me in the loot symposium defense challenge before actualy starting it since it was +50 dark grey

and i could not find what was pulling me anywhere around within 100 blocks

its like they have random invisible mobs at challenges that just pull you to fuck with you

[tall oracle]

Why not both, flying mobs with heavy pull spell, to forcefully make player be a part of space program

[onyx gate]

either that or removing cheese somehow

[thick mesa]

so basicaly put the vortexian rare mob everywhere

[tall oracle]

There's one mob on corruption spike that does the same, near twain lake

[mortal gull]

The pulls you 100 blocks in to the air mob

[uneven crest]

Just like that one enemy in void valley
God i love getting sent into the stratosphere

[clear prairie]

The Golden Avias in question

[fiery pivot]

oppa gangnam style 😼 😼😼

[tall oracle]

ah yes

[tall oracle]

my favourite type of mob

[solid bone]

oppa gangnam style 😼 😼😼

[tough tinsel]

oppa gangnam style 😼 😼😼

[storm storm]

theyre a temporarily solution

[thick mesa]

they're not tho..

[storm storm]

yes they are

[thick mesa]

a solution would mean that the cheese is patched.. but almost everything is still cheesable

[storm storm]

??? bro is making stuff up

[thick mesa]

so its not a solution but just a waste of space

[storm storm]

as in temporary bandaid fix

not perfect, pretty dogwater, but something else will take its place soon

[thick mesa]

well thats the thing, why even do it in the first place if it wont really fix any cheese spots

all it did was make it slightly more inconvenient to cheese

[covert relic]

my bad...

[thick mesa]

and infinitely more inconvenient to travel the zone

[covert relic]

i had no involvement with barriers

[thick mesa]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1101685631211540510/1115869531387199579/1059003175937519646.gif

[covert relic]

the existing solution was to push players back towards the objective

if that aint working idk what will ngl

this change pretty much just kills SE LRs for archer and shaman since there's pretty much 0 spots to not take damage on

[thick mesa]

mage as well tbf (assuming they actualy patch cheese spots)

[covert relic]

don't count on it

[thick mesa]

but wait cant shaman cheese as well