cinder quartz
ok nvm ive come to embrace the void.
keeping this here if you wanna say why you dont like this suggestion:
it is one of the most annoying regions to traverse bc of this. you dont get sent back up to where you were, you either have to /kill, use a tp scroll, or embrace the void. there is no reason it shouldn't be there afaik.~~
edit: void instakill also works
main raven
Mfw at least some hard content: 🤯
cinder quartz
Mfw at least some hard content: 🤯
shit man, never considered that option before. ig i literally fell off.
srs response: not a challenge, its an inconvenience
chilly lagoon
srs response: not a challenge, its an inconvenience
But you want to be sent back to exactly where you were
So you remove the challenge in where one missjump sends you back to ahmsord
cinder quartz
So you remove the challenge in where one missjump sends you back to ahmsord
yes bc kings recruit is too hard
im stuck on the corrupted renegade boss can some1 carry me
chilly lagoon
Huh??
cinder quartz
what
chilly lagoon
Can you start to make sense or are you just gonna goof around
cinder quartz
alr anyways tho
cinder quartz
srs response: not a challenge, its an inconvenience
explain to me how it is a challenge and not an inconvenience
and dont use soul points as an excuse cuz theyre gonna be removed soon (tm) anyways
chilly lagoon
Its challenge cause if you get knocked off its garanteed death or scroll usage
thorn prawn
Just play mage and fly out of the void
cinder quartz
man
waxen cobalt
ok nvm ive come to embrace the void.
keeping this here if you wanna say why you...
you can speed level horses with this "feature"
waxen cobalt
riding your horse off into the void makes horse level shoot up by like a billion
cinder quartz
so why dont they do it in the void
chilly lagoon
the void has a rebound system
I dont exactly like that, but its probably because its a quest area
cinder quartz
Its challenge cause if you get knocked off its garanteed death or scroll usage
alr lemme just say smthn about this argument btw
chilly lagoon
Please do
chilly lagoon
It adds difficulty to the region
cinder quartz
It adds difficulty to the region
it doesnt, it adds an inconvenience
guaranteed death and scroll usage is just another way to use up soul points which will either be too high to mean anything or will be retconned anyway cuz theyre getting removed soon (tm)
chilly lagoon
You saying soul points is getting removed which isnt even confirmed, doesnt justify your suggestion
cinder quartz
salted said he plans to do it at some point
and again, explain to me how spending soul points when at a point where you either barely die or die too much (which is incredibly hard to do even with a trash build in endgame areas like the se out in the open from my experiences) is challenge
chilly lagoon
salted said he plans to do it at some point
And that can take a long time. You know it took him like 7 years to implement profs
chilly lagoon
and again, explain to me how spending soul points when at a point where you eith...
Idc about the soul points anyways. If youre a lvl90+ player that gets below 6 soul points you probably should stop playing the game. The point is that falling down will result in you ending up in ahmsord or another city.
tulip cedar
Sky islands death void is the evolution of molten heights lava
cinder quartz
yunno what
tulip cedar
It's an environmental hazard to add difficulty without being unfair
cinder quartz
void instakill also works
chilly lagoon
Its like playing crash bandicoot and if you fail a jump, you rather want to resurrect right where you were, instead of respawning at latest checkpoint
waxen cobalt
Sky islands death void is the evolution of molten heights lava
okay but molten heights added hot springs with WATER in them
tulip cedar
okay but molten heights added hot springs with WATER in them
They're few and far between
chilly lagoon
Its like playing crash bandicoot and if you fail a jump, you rather want to resu...
This is basics in game design so you gotta try a bit harder now homeboi
tulip cedar
I don't think in most situations you're gonna find one to douse yourself
And fire tick is really deadly in Wynn because it's true damage !!!
cinder quartz
yunno what yea sure ive changed my stance
chilly lagoon
Sky Islands is like the least difficult region in the game. At lvl 95+ the player is skilled enough to not make stupid misstakes. The quests there is piss easy, the discoveries are easy, heck even orange wybel is easy now in 2.0 standards
cinder quartz
changed the void so when you're below y=0 (where the vertical builds stop iirc) you instantly die and go back to ahmsord)
chilly lagoon
Uhm
cinder quartz
Make the sky islands void instakill you when you go beneath y=0
lyric ether
I want to fly below the islands and insta killing would be bad
cinder quartz
man
alr then below y=-100 then
Make the sky islands void instakill you when you go beneath y=-100
also add this to the void too if thats there as an environmental hazard in the sky islands, as they are pretty much a bizarro version of the place
chilly lagoon
It feels like you wanted to be part of this game so you made a questionable not-so-thought-out suggestion and then try to sound smart and when realizing no one agrees with you, you instead make a 180 and want the current system except no chance to scroll out
Like you have to be a troll, theres no other way
cinder quartz
alr see you've kinda convinced me here
so thats why i took a 180
i understand what i've done wrong, and now i also know the cases for adding it, and now looking back at it, i now agree with my current stances, which are a mesh of my current views and the feedback here
chilly lagoon
If it aint broke, dont fix it
cinder quartz
game design is subjective, what some people view as good gameplay others could view as a terrible mechanic
i myself think just falling down into the void to forever take chip damage is a stupid idea so i initally thought a rebound system works, and then i later considered other view points, which then molded by current views here
i now somewhat believe it is now a challenge, i still believe its an inconvenience
chilly lagoon
game design is subjective, what some people view as good gameplay others could v...
I mean yea 50 years of gaming could be wrong, since humans were wrong about how our solar system worked for 1500 years!
cinder quartz
I mean yea 50 years of gaming could be wrong, since humans were wrong about how ...
what im saying is that some people like mechanics other people hate
if they want to please the masses, then go ahead, and if they want to please the minorities, go ahead
as long as its not universally bullshit it works
and if there's some people that want to keep soul points, a mechanic that i think is stupid, then by all means they're entitled to that opinion, but if the game designers think otherwise, so be it
chilly lagoon
what im saying is that some people like mechanics other people hate
I think most people gets annoyed when they (somehow) fall of the sky islands but they can still respect that it was their own fault and that the void is part of the area gimic
cinder quartz
I think most people gets annoyed when they (somehow) fall of the sky islands but...
yunno what yea fair
my fates to the void often come from me running out mana tping down there
or making an improper escape
chilly lagoon
Falling of the sky islands is not unfair and thats why it doesnt need to be ”fixed”
cinder quartz
not mob knockback
pliant granite
I love warping into wars while falling into the endless abyss
cinder quartz
I love warping into wars while falling into the endless abyss
Umarme die Leere
pliant granite
Umarme die Leere
Wahre worte
idle ibex
riding your horse off into the void makes horse level shoot up by like a billion
wait seriously??? lmao
waxen cobalt
wait seriously??? lmao
cinder quartz
was gonna suggest to remove the rebound thing for the void but then i remembered: wait a minute, it's actually a big inconvenience instead of the sky islands cuz you now have to go back to the exact spot you were from ahmsord or smthn (is void village a town as it says you are now entering place?) and its a quest area
chilly lagoon
Void village is not a town
cinder quartz
ok i backtracked a bit and my thoughts are that it should be instakill to ahmsord at y=0, but i dont feel like going through this again, so ill just leave it at that bc underneath the sky islands is just inverted stone peaks, nothing you cant get from exploring the void (i suck at typing)
tulip cedar
honestly you should be instakilled if you're in the void too deep
just in general. it'd block some specific exploits because you'd die instantly doing them
cinder quartz
eh
tulip cedar
It would be best if it was just at y=0 but
cinder quartz
also is there like ct stuff that shouldn't be revealed to the public underneath the map outside the sky islands
tulip cedar
I feel like you'd bug out with shitty connection and end up triggering it or something
cinder quartz
cuz if there is adding barriers to those parts around it would actually be the one time i support barriers around the map (and also the mountains that keep the map in but eh)
tulip cedar
also is there like ct stuff that shouldn't be revealed to the public underneath ...
not really? It's kind of just stone and dirt I think
And you can't put barriers below y=0
cinder quartz
ah
unrelated note not at all related to the topic being discussed: i find it fitting that cool garoth's elemental weakness is to fire
idle ibex
speaking of garoth...when is the quest
cinder quartz
if i had to guess itd probs be pushed same hotfix as bonfire fest
also rename sanctuary bridge to sanctum bridge or sanctum's crossing (do this one it sounds cooler)
idle ibex
add fruma
cinder quartz
add fruma
i actually broke into salteds basement and got the plans for the future wynncraft provinces
idle ibex
omg gravel
idle ibex
gaming
