"Figuring" out the lootrun camp mythic rate

[crude plinth]

3 minutes have passed

[sick canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[naive oyster]

Buuns deleting everything he wrote

[sick canyon]

makes sense

[viral solar]

Xae take this somewhere else tldr

[light halo]

@rotund orbit could you do something that only counts pulls of people that have submitted like whatever+ pulls to eliminate bias from people that only submit a few runs because the ygot really (un)lucky?

[rotund orbit]

i just dont write those runs down

[light halo]

fair

some more data, btw has anyone here ever gotten aqua/red/green at 0,1 or 2 challenges on this hotfix?

[sick canyon]

all three on challenge 1 yes but never on challenge 0 with rrs

[crude plinth]

I dont remember getting them first challenge

[naive oyster]

Thank you for your service, i always forget that the man randomly deletes

[crude plinth]

Screenshots

[viral solar]

It’s not random please keep this thread about lr and not what ever weirdo shit ur trying to continue

[sick canyon]

<>

[light halo]

but youre still taking out your emotional frustration here=

[viral solar]

?

[viral solar]

I’m being hyperbolic

Holy shit

[light halo]

i never know with you

[viral solar]

Do I have to block u too

[crude plinth]

[light halo]

i dont care bro

[crude plinth]

Buuns blocking

[viral solar]

Plz stop following me around like some obsessed fan base

[light halo]

my life is ruined 😢 🥶

[crude plinth]

😭😭😭

[naive oyster]

Stop typing paragraphs of lootrun cope in Constructive Feedback then

Youre literally asking for attention and now when you feel pressured you dont want it anymore

[rotund orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512005304008048667/1090154848000938105/output-onlinegiftools.gif

[light halo]

guys if you would have to decide on most constructive feedbac giver would you choose buuns or crosier?

[sick canyon]

unironically crosier gives better feedback lmfao

[crude plinth]

Idk havent seen crosier in a while

[sick canyon]

at least then you know exactly what not to do

[naive oyster]

I dont think crosier is mentally boomed, he just have some crazy takes

And he dont mind people talking about him

[rotund orbit]

so true

[crude plinth]

buuned*

[light halo]

he was just tortured by profs

[sick canyon]

anyway I’m annoyed I just spent like 3 minutes making a funny little fish tank with text symbols and then when I tried to send it discord crashed

[rotund orbit]

discord almost crashes when i try to copy paste a picture i took of my cat 💀

[naive oyster]

That, and his game crashing from a bak'al cutscene

[rotund orbit]

discord is so balls they gota download more ram

[sick canyon]

bro worships bakal it’s so funny

[crude plinth]

Discomballs

[sick canyon]

discomballbulate

[crude plinth]

Discombobthebuilder

[light halo]

i forgot the foresight abilities

[sick canyon]

discombinationulate

[crude plinth]

Discombuuns

[viral solar]

I’ll ask marq and if he thinks it’s dumb I’ll 100% admit my ideas was bad, but marq when you do 200+ runs do u also ever feel semi annoyed that like 80% of the stuff in the rewards chest is bad and it would be nice to be able to change/mess with some of the priority on the chest so useless legendaries don’t take the spot of EB or ruins

[light halo]

constructive bullying thread

[sick canyon]

that’s all feedback threads

[crude plinth]

2.0.4 is said to have significant lootrun changes

[light halo]

btw @viral solar i aslo waste way too much time on lootrunning but i dont have mental issues because of it because i dont really take it seriously (i have sold a single one of 30 mythics and only because it was a dupe)

[rotund orbit]

when i do a 200 pull run the only thing i care about is the mythic that i may or may not get

and how good its gona roll once i gamble it

[light halo]

btw, thoughts on this guy?

[viral solar]

Hmmm kk ig

Ig I’m tweaking for no reason

[rotund orbit]

significant changes: we have removed orange from the game

[light halo]

yeah that was cool too

[rotund orbit]

hotdog try not to be a minmaxing elitist for 1 second challenge (impossible)

[light halo]

one of the threads

truly

[crude plinth]

We have some interesting personas here

[viral solar]

What is happened here, this isn’t a thread to roast people rn

Go make ur own if u wanna do that

[crude plinth]

@rotund orbit is it?

[light halo]

this is marqns own thread

[rotund orbit]

real its just a lootrun vibe channel

[sick canyon]

zzzz

[rotund orbit]

no constructive feedback in sight, just lootrun stats!

[naive oyster]

I mean, you crying for an idol is not exactly helping Mr MarqnBG figuring out the stats

[sick canyon]

part of lootrunning is clowning on other lootrunners

[rotund orbit]

ah making sure the pre 2.0.3 traditions dont die out i see

[viral solar]

Marq what does the data show for mythic %, it’s weird on mobile and hard to see the entire chart

[light halo]

look at the above message

[crude plinth]

Current stats show that average mythic drop is around every 1600p and 31k for shinies

[viral solar]

Thought it was a shitpost meme sorry

[crude plinth]

[light halo]

it is, but the mythic rate is still correct(top left two pictures)
1 in like 1.6k

[rotund orbit]

yeah it seems like 1.5-1.6k is pretty much the mythic rate since its been like that for a while now

[sick canyon]

at this point only reason to keep thread going is to check for shiny rate

but that’s been wobbling around 1/20 of reg mythic chance for a while too I think

[crude plinth]

From 17k in <75p runs to 30k in long runs

Though thats probably bias

So yeah

Every ~ 20th mythic is shiny

[light halo]

so basically shiny being 3-4 times as rare as other mythics individually?

[crude plinth]

?

[sick canyon]

I mean sure

that’s a really weird way to look at it tho

since what mythic you get is independent of getting a mythic

[light halo]

sure?

ive always just assumed its a weight system

[crude plinth]

They probably did it

Like in chest

[sick canyon]

in the coding sense not the statistical sense*

[viral solar]

I wonder if fatal has like a higher weight than idol, I’ve rr 2 fatals this week so far

[crude plinth]

So it chooses that u get a mythic then which one

[sick canyon]

no that’s just you coping lmfao

[naive oyster]

Stop

[crude plinth]

Idk they should have the same one, small sample size

[viral solar]

I’m responding to this…. Yall wanna attack me so bad omg

[sick canyon]

yeah and if you knew anything about lring you’d know that’s a false assumption lmao

[light halo]

???

[sick canyon]

I wasn’t even attacking you all I said was that you’re wrong

[light halo]

bro you should read the wikipedia article about statistics

[viral solar]

Im just saying I just thought y’all were saying mythics were weighted against each other like maybe fatal being more common than idol

Y’all say my “reading comprehension” is bad but y’all are so hard to follow sometimes then get “mad” or rude af when someone isn’t following what ur saying

[sick canyon]

no yeah you’re totally right every mythic is weighted at 7x idol rate but only for you

get over it dude

[light halo]

i just thought every mythic had the same weight and shiny mythics have a seperate rate which would mean that you have slightly higher mythic chances if there are more mythics in pool

[viral solar]

That would make sense to me

[light halo]

but its not like were getting an yofficial information so 🤷‍♂️

[sick canyon]

nah that’s not how loot works in wynn

[viral solar]

So ur “more likely” to get shinies in corkus by that logic?

[light halo]

yeah but lootrunning chest is also a unique system with the only taking the "best" drops mechanic

[sick canyon]

each pull first rolls whether or not it’s mythic, then rolls on what mythic it actually is

two separate number generations

[light halo]

did salted dm you that?

[sick canyon]

no but it’s pretty obvious from a coding perspective

[light halo]

not really, weight system is also pretty simple tbh

[sick canyon]

and also from a logic perspective, it makes no sense to have number of mythics in pool affect mythic chance

[light halo]

@viral solar what happened 😳

[light halo]

from an intuitive point of view i think it would as more mythics = higher chances makes more sense than more mythics = same chances

but as i said before

[sick canyon]

multiple CT have said that corkus doesn’t have worse chances than SE for mythics so

[light halo]

ct actually get insight into game mechanics? 😱

[viral solar]

Fr sometimes I see so much contradictory information or CT just straight up saying lies/ being extremely hyperbolic

[crude plinth]

The later is how normal chests work

[viral solar]

Like Madeline saying u can tp straight downwards then 3 minutes later being like “actually not really but good enough”

[crude plinth]

U can

[light halo]

no

[crude plinth]

But with some steps

[sick canyon]

that’s not lying lmfao that’s just called correcting yourself, something you seem unfamiliar with

[light halo]

with jh

[viral solar]

No u have to look a block and a half infront of u or be 4-6 blocks in the air already

[crude plinth]

Not 4 but yes

[viral solar]

If u look in the actual thread this happened in no she didn’t correct herself she had a tone as if she was intentionally right all along when the context was standing still and looking straight down. There a massive difference between, I was originally wrong this so the correct information and, no I wasn’t wrong and here is the extremely niche way what I said could technically be correct….

Anyways doesn’t matter

[sick canyon]

that’s what the “actually not really” is for lmao

buuns try to understand things that aren’t explicitly stated with extreme formalism challenge (impossible)

[light halo]

constructive feedback try to be constructive challenge

[viral solar]

She didn’t actually say “actually not really” but “smart” players can’t interpret her words that way, but instead of assuming what people mean I would prefer they can explain it in a way where they don’t need this niche small perfective to technically be right

[light halo]

🍿 🍿

[viral solar]

Me when someone sentences literally makes ZERO sense when they don’t add commas in the right spot so verbs effect the wrong subject and when there are 3 unclear subjects in sentences with a random adjective and no verb making the sentence complete nonsense

But even with that run on sentences it still makes sense

[sick canyon]

someone’s* affect*

[viral solar]

Difference between affect and effect plz

Genuinely I don’t know when you’d use one over the other

Also massive difference between missing a S and someone saying literal gibberish

But like how xae defends anything else that’s probably good enough to be a strawman defense of look how dumb and wrong Buuns is cause he missed 1 s. Let me ignore the rest of this entire point and souly focus on this for the next 10 minutes instead of intellectually engaging with the point he’s trying to make

Doesn’t matter I don’t wanna clock this thread up even more, I’d delete everything just to remove the distraction from the threat but people tweak about that so I’ll just try to ask nicely, let’s move the discussion back to lring and that stuff

👍

[naive oyster]

I disagreed with your whole thing

Im not gonna write a long in-depth essay talking about every single sentence you wrote

Your suggestion was silly, and the people that agreed with it probably didnt understand the whole thing, or they dont understand that in order for a feature to be added, it must be worth the devtime (i know people meme about devtime alot but it's a real thing)

I thought you would have calmed down by now but you keep bringing up my name :DD

[crude plinth]

🍿

[naive oyster]

For the popcorn eating audiance, you guys realize that Buuns have me blocked even though I never slide his dm's or anything? The man takes the time to openen every single "blocked message" that Im sending and he clearly reads everything

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im accepting idols to argue for a specific side

[crude plinth]

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if no idol then 🍿

[crude plinth]

Get statistics

More data

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🗿

ill take some raw le too wouldnt mind, or an epoch/warp

[naive oyster]

What are you saying with this

[viral solar]

Yes anyone who happens to agree just doesn’t understand, u just happen to be correct about everything and anyone who says ur wrong just happens to “not understand” when though “it’s not worth typing out a essay to explain myself” ya it just happens to be everyone else’s fault that they don’t understand you but definitely not worth the effort to explain

[naive oyster]

That screenshot has nothing to do with what I just said

[viral solar]

It literally does

[viral solar]

…..

[naive oyster]

I agree that its dumb that you cant get the least weighted items in the loot pool if you have many pulls. That doesnt mean your suggestion is the correct solution

[viral solar]

Bro copes even harder than I do when people don’t agree with him

[naive oyster]

His reason for agreeing with you is him not coming up with a better solution

Buuns this anger can not be good for you

[viral solar]

You don’t have a good solution either? And mine definitely is better than the current system

[naive oyster]

Because I havent thought about one?

That doesnt make your any better

[viral solar]

Lmao why do you try so hard to psychoanalyze people, you don’t know my emotions…. Ino that shit is so weird and you try to do it all the time

[naive oyster]

I literally have proof of you having anger issues so calm down a bit little bro

[viral solar]

Lmao

Me calling u a weirdo isn’t me having “anger issues”

[naive oyster]

A better solution: Remove dungeon keys from loot pools, we already get those from raids. Remove the amount of different EB rewards, and make all uniques weight the same as rares (doesnt make them harder to find). The pros with this is it barely buffs lootrun rewards, while taking little devtime to implement.

[viral solar]

That doesn’t stop getting 100% legendaries from 200+ pull runs

[naive oyster]

The way youre typing and treating me and other people is what makes you look like an angry little man. Again, Im basing my statement of you being mentally from the bigger picture, not this one little conversation. You time and again never can grasp more than whats happening in the moment, its like you cant remember what you have done in the past or even last week

One time I skull reacted to one of your silly messages and in return you came yelling in my dms and then blocked me, and you say you dont have anger issues 😄

[viral solar]

You see it’s extremely ironic because that’s exactly how I see you

[covert badge]

just add pages to the end reward chest so you can collect the loot from all the pulls lmao it's not that deep

simple solution

[viral solar]

Fr just let me see all the loot

[naive oyster]

This is good too

[covert badge]

takes 0 devtime just add another page

[viral solar]

Why do you get to decide that

People do runs to get 200+ pulls/items why not just give them access to the items they “earned”

Even tho 90% of it is just trash to them

[naive oyster]

Except im not angry? Im not crying for sympathy on discord every time I dont get what I want from a lootrun. We can go even deeper if you want. Do you have any friends on discord at all, or do you just lootrun 8 hours a day in lonelyness holding your anger within yourself and then taking it out on people that calls out your bullshit?

Buuns all Im asking for you is to look in the mirror for one second and see what you have become

[viral solar]

Xae I blocked u cause of this, ur like my most obsessed fan ever

[naive oyster]

Ok but you keep responding to everything I type, even when its not directed at you. You open every single message

[viral solar]

Bro u spend more time stalking my discord then I spend on discord wdym ong

[naive oyster]

Like if you made any sense i would respect you but its literally impossible

[naive oyster]

I spent 30 minutes of my time looking at you calling people and the server gay 2 years ago 😄

Your sense of time is something else and Im honestly just sad for you

Like get help

[light halo]

🍿

[viral solar]

Bro ur the one who reacts to majority of my post that aren’t even about u

[naive oyster]

Its late in my country rn but another day Im down to voice chat with you so we can speak and try to solve our differences

[viral solar]

Like lmao

[naive oyster]

Cause you cant keep acting like this on discord or youre literally gonna implode

[viral solar]

Bro this started cause I told you to stop being a weirdo to me and it only escalated

[naive oyster]

Yes im trying to talk some sense into you

[light halo]

🍿

(He is inhaling the popcorn)

[naive oyster]

I dont have any issue standing up against you, your character and you silly ideas that you want implemented to poison the server

[viral solar]

Bro talk some sense, you wanted to act like a discord cop talking about msg from 3-5 years ago, THAT IS SO WEIRDO SHIT

[naive oyster]

That was a funny thing I did in my freetime during my vacation 😄

[viral solar]

Ya some loser weirdo shit….

[naive oyster]

Me using the discord search function is not me going to the police asking for your criminal records...

[light halo]

@viral solar you should really hit up crosier at some point, you two might just get along

[viral solar]

Then I asked u to leave me alone and u just followed me everywhere like some obsessed fan

[covert badge]

again, accepting raw le / idol to take a side in this argument

[naive oyster]

You know constructive feedback isnt a very big place so you happen to be in threads I also wanna be involved in

[viral solar]

….

[naive oyster]

Everything isnt centered around you MrBuuns

[viral solar]

But u happen to react to everything I say….

[light halo]

I thought its common knowledge that Xae is an fbi agent hired to track down Buuns and follow him for all eternity

[viral solar]

Bro I have a ss of him role playing as some anime villain like some cringe ass shit like that

[light halo]

Im even sccepting other mythics to support one of you

[viral solar]

Y’all think I’m joking but I’m not

[light halo]

In which context?

[viral solar]

Literally I asked him why he’s so obsessed with me and his response was “I’m your anime villain you’re anger only fuels me more” bruh it couldn’t be more cringe imo

[light halo]

Sus Tzu, The Art of Trolling

[viral solar]

Yes it’s only a troll if I get called out for cringe, Schrödingers troll

[covert badge]

people like you are the reason why mythic prices are so low!!!111!!!

[naive oyster]

You literally dont understand sarcasm, and I didnt know that at that point. But now I know so I stopped doing that to you because if im gonna make fun of you, I want you to know that youre being made fun of

[covert badge]

gatekeep mythics!!111!11!!

[naive oyster]

Please tell me this is something that pays

[sick canyon]

67p 11rr nothing

[viral solar]

3 rr abso

i kinda wanted to rr but i didnt want to be dumb

[sick canyon]

122p 6rr nothing

[chilly wave]

Holy shit this convo of buuns & xae gives me PTSD of when i tried to have my first conversation with NMW

[junior kiln]

98p 10 rr nothing

[light halo]

5rr abso

[crude plinth]

69

[light halo]

rainbow into vorange moment

and then 2 vaqua into gray before second orange

[rotund orbit]

@sick canyon my luck ran out? who decided that

[naive oyster]

How dare you send that

[rotund orbit]

[light halo]

stop stealing buuns idols!!

[viral solar]

Fr

[sick canyon]

nice

[viral solar]

How much of a difference is 150 spell and 300 spell?

I’ve always wondered how 150 spell dmg translates to like an extra 80k dps

[crude plinth]

Substantial

[light halo]

for idol about 6.4 raw are eequal to 1% spell damage

so its something like 25% spell damage

[crude plinth]

Raw spell is very effective on low base dps weapons

Like wands and spears

[viral solar]

Eek

[crude plinth]

Formula: 1 spell dmg % = base dps/100 = 1 raw spell

Quetzalcoatl has 58 effective spell dmg percent

[sick canyon]

85p 11rr nothing

[sick canyon]

83p 10rr abso on last roll

[viral solar]

I rlly feel like u have some of the most submissions without finding mythics

[sick canyon]

and yet I've still gotten more idols than you

[viral solar]

I meant it as like “feels bad moment”

I’ve gotten 2 fatal 2 abosos and a shiny from this weeks pool 👍

[sick canyon]

80p 10rr convergence on 2nd roll

[sick canyon]

34p 8rr nothing

[runic mesa]

fatal after 4th rr

[rotund orbit]

ngl i would not settle for a fatal from 258 pulls

[junior kiln]

3h of lootrunning for a fatal, yea maybe not worth it

[sick canyon]

185p 10rr moontower on 7th roll

[sonic rivet]

50p 8rr nothing

[crude plinth]

237p 11r 4rr used moontower 6rr used alkatraz (took it)

[light halo]

(4rr fatal)

[naive oyster]

@viral solar sorry bro

[viral solar]

Crying fr fr

Lol gl on roll post if u get a good one

Also u lr on archer?

[naive oyster]

Ye

[rough pivot]

I can't even run because internet

[rotund orbit]

god damn with so little pulls too nice

[light halo]

your legs fell off?

[rough pivot]

600-700 ping on average

[light halo]

Oh

[sick canyon]

doom

what repeatedly rolling green/yellow on aqua stack does to a mfer

[rotund orbit]

just take yellow for the funy ingridients

[viral solar]

This is so cursed omg

[sick canyon]

148p 10rr abso on 3rd roll, fatal on 6th, alka on 7th (took)

[sick canyon]

68p 2rr nothing

[light halo]

@rotund orbit

[light halo]

0/1/2 rr

[crude plinth]

14p n

[light halo]

0 mythics

[light halo]

no m

[pulsar vortex]

hot

[light halo]

0m

[light halo]

apparently dying resets aqua stack but doesnt show in chat

0m

(still showed 10rr in chat

[quasi furnace]

3rrleft fatal took fatal

[pulsar vortex]

yep that is in fact true

i stacked 2 aquas and died after the challenge was done (so the intermission) and then went for gray which said 10rr and i only got 2

i think that’s pretty dumb

it should only reset the aqua stack if you die in a challenge.. not after

[rotund orbit]

many things are dumb but thats wynncraft for you

anyway last minute clutch run skiped abso and fatal got 16 le 😔

idol has officialy died

abso was alredy dead so there is that (also hero and nulli finaly)

[viral solar]

Rip but also semi nice, what r boots?

[rotund orbit]

crabs

[viral solar]

Oh nice I need a pair of those

Any good legendary or rares?

[quasi furnace]

but cork is so sad to run .-.

[light halo]

idol got the strati treatment lol

[rotund orbit]

so did abso

after this week warp might be the most expensive mythic if it doesnt show next week either

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO FIRST PAGE OF TM

[light halo]

[rotund orbit]

lootruning is perfectly fine acording to salted

[viral solar]

[rotund orbit]

its getting worse

[viral solar]

What r the prices on them

[rotund orbit]

trollage

[rotund orbit]

like 10-11 stx unid

i predict they drop to 8 stx within 12 hourts

[light halo]

@viral solar this is your redemption arc

[rotund orbit]

me when

[light halo]

wynncraft players trying to think more than 2 hours into the future moment

0 mythics btw

[viral solar]

Fr I get another week

Like an idiot I bought a semi decent one for 9 stacks so rip that investment

[light halo]

btw, just a question but are you lootrunning with 2 classes?

[viral solar]

Ya, shaman if lazy, warrior if I wanna go faster but risk dying more at the start

I wanna find a archer build but it just feels so meh to me

[light halo]

im asking because its actually poretty good for efficiency to periodically swap to another class and just start lr + do 2rr to scout for good runs so you dont have as much downtime/bad runs

[viral solar]

Oh that is pretty smart

I semi wonder how you guys get the 60p 10 rr so fast and consistently

[rotund orbit]

just pure dumb luck

i hoped on 30 min before pool reset and got rainbow orange orange aqua red aqua aqua grey aqua green aqua aqua dark grey lol

but ofc if you do the 2 class strat you can brute force that luck more often

i would be doing it but im tryna get a damn hpr tome for my time rift warp build

[light halo]

got 2 runs with vorange start and 2 with rainbow start

realistically oure gonna have vorange on 6% of run starts if you just go 0 challenge + 2 rr and rainbow on like 18% of starts

[viral solar]

Lmao, I might put together an assassin build and have 4 classes to cycle thru

[light halo]

based on this data and some rounding

[viral solar]

So basically u start a run and if u don’t get an orange or rainbow u rr 2x and if nothing “abandon the run” but switch to new class before so u don’t get sent on cooldown

[rotund orbit]

you can get a usable idol for 4 stx lmao

[sick canyon]

more shiny reliks doom

[light halo]

No, start run, no rainbow/(v)orange [depends if you want to start with normal orange or not) -> reroll
If nothing good delete lootrun

You will always get 10 min cooldown but if youre doung a long lootrun on another class you can continue doing that to bridge the cooldown

[rotund orbit]

yeah i want me some shiny fatal or warp 😭

[sick canyon]

mm shiny fanta is cool tho

what r the stat trackers

[rotund orbit]

hadal is mobs
fanta is dungeons 🤮

[sick canyon]

yucky

[sick canyon]

can someone check new pools
wc35

[quasi furnace]

you mean legendarys abd stuff?

[sick canyon]

ye

mostly just the fableds and le

[quasi furnace]

helmet in cork is apex, pants in se is pyrrhic respite boots in se are blind thrust

[sick canyon]

oh that’s funny pyrrhic in both pools
tyty!

[quasi furnace]

also se has leictreach

[void hornet]

se has capricorn (on new worlds)

[sick canyon]

ok very hot I will open on new then ty

[rotund orbit]

leictrach and capri? noice

[covert badge]

are you rerolling on first challenge beacons? is that what the three imgs mean

[viral solar]

I guess to clarify are you using both rr or only 1 incase you wanna use the 2nd for if u actually get a “god run”

[light halo]

yeah (0 challenges completed)

[light halo]

if i dont get anything good without rr i rr once, if i dont get anything ood on that rr i rr again

[viral solar]

Kk

[naive oyster]

I usually do 2 quick challenges then take an aqua and then reroll

[quasi furnace]

6rr left Hero (took hero)

[viral solar]

What do ppl use to lr with archer?

[quasi furnace]

I use strati

[naive oyster]

I use Freedom but its not very good for movement

But its a tanky but good damage build, i can send it to you if you want

[sick canyon]

strati

anything else is a waste of time unless you’re ridiculously good at chaining ghook rocket jump

[viral solar]

Semi interested, send builds if u wanna

I have a good strati I just haven’t seen a build for it

[naive oyster]

https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder/#8_0cD0PfCR-16+6+6I8w7H7U9i91CR-16+6+6I8w7H7U9a910t80K00vJ0OH0QV0u0u1M1G1g1g000001B1B050505050n--+fp3z3

[covert badge]

bolt spring

[timid quail]

idol 💀

[quasi furnace]

https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder/?v=4#8_0Au0Jr0uR07W0K20vI0T40Ji0Rb0y0l1G042C1g000000z0z0+0+0+0+0--ZNr2pAUL0 what i use rn (in the original build draoi and summa where used instead of ingress and moon pool but i had no tomes so i just replaced them and it worked fine imo)

nothing

[quasi furnace]

nothing

[quasi furnace]

nothing

[light halo]

10rr obli

[crude plinth]

19p 11r n

[light halo]

[crude plinth]

oh its 1rr

[crude plinth]

typo

[crude plinth]

5p n

[crude plinth]

15p n

[quasi furnace]

nothing

[sick canyon]

rip

[sick canyon]

146p 10rr nothing

[viral solar]

2 rr nullifcation(+ convergence during run) https://youtu.be/34PwyX2ZSRE vod of run (semi tilted near the end ngl)

[naive oyster]

You should become a streamer

Maybe sounds weird but you ranting like that has entertainment value

And wynn really lacks entertaining streamers

Or streamers in general

[viral solar]

fr lmao

[timid quail]

nothing

[worldly shell]

do you want non vorange on 1?

[crude plinth]

?

[worldly shell]

Is +1 orange on first pick good enough

[crude plinth]

Yeah

I do pick it, but ya need the second orange to be like +3 choices

[crude plinth]

11p 1rr n

[rotund orbit]

+2 is enough

for second orange

[crude plinth]

can be

[crude plinth]

this was with 5 choices then rainbow

somehow

[light halo]

5 choices is enough for god run

[crude plinth]

thats the point

[worldly shell]

Do I pick greens at all if i got 8 choices + early +50 white

[rotund orbit]

no

[naive oyster]

Picking boons is always better in that scenario

[hardy talon]

I think this is now my greatest achievement

Shiny Hadal, Obli and Obli from 160 pulls and 5 used rerolls

[pulsar vortex]

what the f-

some of y’all need to start buying lottery tickets fr XD

[light halo]

you are the bias

[crude plinth]

The bias on this is

[crude plinth]

Ya should have rr, no LE

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/739433268524351540/1038809649916428318/test.gif

[sick canyon]

70p 11rr nothing

[sick canyon]

163p 11rr hero and idol on 9th roll

[viral solar]

9 rr nullifcation vod if chest (https://youtu.be/e7QQAGNtpDQ)

[rough pivot]

It's kinda funny to see idol users suffering because of this

[rotund orbit]

nah its not idol users in particular

[rough pivot]

But on the other hand almost every user will be idol user

[rotund orbit]

its everyone that likes to scalp items for profit suffering that they will actualy lose

[rough pivot]

Idol owners pre-2.0.3

When sudden drop of value by like 90-95%

[timid quail]

gma value

warp 🔥🔥🔥

[light halo]

its idol hoarders not users

[naive oyster]

Thats a nice vorange vorange rainbow you got there!

[worldly shell]

one in a million

vibrant rainbow too

[crude plinth]

220p 11rr hero 8rr left (3rr used)

[light halo]

imagine mythics

[viral solar]

5 rr nullication (3rd one now ugh)

[viral solar]

9 rr oblivion

[runic mesa]

2,915 pulls nothing

the crabs dream is dead

[sick canyon]

77p abso

[rotund orbit]

god damn havent had one of these in long tiime

[rotund orbit]

what build do you use btw

[naive oyster]

Achhhhually its 3180 pulls 😈

[rotund orbit]

RNG decided to love me today

ok thats a lie RNG always loves me

but its a little more today

[runic mesa]

boreal warp arcanist

[rotund orbit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1101685631211540510/1115869531387199579/1059003175937519646.gif

wait for real? can you show the build

[runic mesa]

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/builder?v=4#8_0cD0Pf0r50QN0uP0uP0K40OH0R10o0o0o1B2M1g00001007lU1515050505050-lNndpF+5
WynnBuilder build:

Morph-Stardust
Libra
Vaward
Boreal
Photon
Photon
Prowess
Diamond Fusion Necklace
Warp [a6a6a6]
(Has Tomes)
sp slap my beloved

[rotund orbit]

whar the heck

i half expected a WFA build that relies on boons to deal damage

[runic mesa]

wfa on 90% mob res actually sounds like psychological torture so rainbow slap >>

smoothbrain gaming

[rotund orbit]

surely you wouldnt have 90% dr before getting some good boons

[runic mesa]

its happened before💀 unlucky if you get too much mob res too early/without enough dmg boons

[rotund orbit]

that can only happen if you are careless

if you see that you are getting too many daamge reduction curses while picking the 8 curses you need for boons just stop taking purples untill u get good boons

[runic mesa]

i picked up a +6 boosted purple once and 4/6 of the curses was mob res it was horror

I do not grab boosted purples anymore👍

[light halo]

sp meta moment

[junior kiln]

I think I'd love that bulid

if I could afford warp

[rough pivot]

hmm I've got a perfect run, do I finish early (around 70 pulls 11 rerolls in 20 challenges) or do I go for long one?

dry

[rough pivot]

dry

dry as well

14/2 dry

[crude plinth]

Long, but too late it seems

[timid quail]

nothing

[rough pivot]

22/1 dry

22/2 dry

13/0 dry

[viral solar]

5 rr idol

smile

[viral solar]

i think i also had a 105 p run no rr tho i messed up grey and ended

salty so didnt ss

[viral solar]

3 rr idol

[crude plinth]

Buuns finnaly getting his idol

[viral solar]

real

[timid quail]

nothing (7k effective dry)

end me

[quasi furnace]

1rr left abso and Obliv

[crude plinth]

Bruh avg mythic 1.6k dry💀

[quasi furnace]

cursed run also nothing

[junior kiln]

damn that's a long time for only 75 reward pull

maxed out mob resistance ?

[rotund orbit]

damn 2 pulls per minute

[rough pivot]

Maybe bad luck with dark gray + using slow class

[light halo]

Btw how much crit damage/pther damage do you aim for beore going for purples?

[rotund orbit]

its not that i aim for acertain amount, its all up to luck

i just get blue beacons untill i have 20 challenges left (25-30 challenges left if i have over 100 challenges) and then get aqua aqua dark grey and then do purples

[rough pivot]

Hmmm why dark dray before purples

[rotund orbit]

i also get as many purples as i can untill i reach 45 or 60% damage reduction before taking dark gray

[rotund orbit]

because i wouldnt want to die on the dark grey challenge if by some badl uck it happens to be bone monstrosity

[quasi furnace]

Used a strati Disco build for testing out things and got unlucky with beacon choices, had 8k hp and got basically 1 tapped by every mob since i got 0 HP boons, failed multiple aqua stacks beacause of that so the end dark grey was only +30 pulls

[light halo]

I got a 31 ozll 1rr run, would have been a perfect god run but apprently the mobs multihit has infinite range🙃🙃

[rough pivot]

17/1 dry (such a daily waste)

[quasi furnace]

3rr left Idol

[viral solar]

Did the 2.03 thread get unpinned for anyone else?

New patch soon?

[rough pivot]

Does anyone know when does daily reward reset?

Because idk if I should finish the run now, with 100/10 or finish it later with more pulls and 1 extra rr

[rough pivot]

118/11 oblivion (skipped)

[sick canyon]

it's been unpinned for like 2 weeks

[viral solar]

no rr hero

[naive oyster]

My guess is this or next weekend

[viral solar]

feels good

what r odds of this do ppl know?

1st then 2nd challenege btw, reset strat is 100% better even if it feels weird to do

[timid quail]

hero on first (no rr) , 7k dry gone

[covert badge]

7k dry is crazy

i hope u get good runs for the rest of the week

[timid quail]

200pull run never got mythic

~100 pull run instant mythic

[covert badge]

4 pull idol + hero incoming

[light halo]

low

[rotund orbit]

happens to me quite often ngl

[quasi furnace]

8rr left Idol

[worldly shell]

oh baby

[viral solar]

I’m hoping cata is in pool next

[light halo]

21 1 nothing

[rotund orbit]

grimtrap weather hero archangel pure convegence 💀

[light halo]

why do hero and archangel have the same model

[rotund orbit]

immo and boreal

i guess i can take a break this week from lootruning

[quasi furnace]

Eww this week is kinda bad tbh

[naive oyster]

The 20LE excite me more

I always wanted a weathered though

[light halo]

i alr took a break for the past 1.5 weeks

[quasi furnace]

SE and Cork on new World

Libra in Se is nice ig

[pulsar vortex]

such bad shinies too

[viral solar]

What r stats on shinies?

[quasi furnace]

Mobs killed on Grim, Dungeons on Div

[worldly shell]

hero 4rr

[sick canyon]

o yay shiny grim

le rewards kinda got fucked tho huh

[light halo]

just roll exclusively le rewards smh

[rough pivot]

I've been resetting even rainbow starts after like 7th challenge because I have double gaslight flashbacks

[viral solar]

Lmao

If u told me that like 2 weeks ago I’d be like wtf is wrong with u

[naive oyster]

Buuns nice arc 😻

Every man can redeem themselves

[rough pivot]

Hmm I wonder if apoc will cross magical barrier of 1LE once it shows up in the pool

(Maybe not as it will be skipped)

[naive oyster]

Dont think it will

I would easily buy every single one that is below 2LE as investment

[viral solar]

4 rr weatherd

[viral solar]

5 rr weatherd again

[viral solar]

2 rr convergnce didnt take nothing

oh also

+30 pulls nothing

[viral solar]

40 pulls 2 rr nothing (took 20 le)

[light halo]

Buuns is the data 💪💪

[rough pivot]

16/2 dry

[chilly wave]

How are mythic prices atm? Haven’t logged in in a while

[light halo]

depends on the mythic

[viral solar]

“Decent ones” sit at like 2-3 stacks. Bad ones like 20le-1stack, good ones like 6-12 stacks depending if ur lucky

[pulsar vortex]

unid hero and unid weathered are about 3stx unid

atm

[naive oyster]

Just here to flex that 1 of the 4 mythics I got today got a good roll

Also got a 69% convergence

[viral solar]

What stats do u even look 4 for weathered?

[light halo]

All expcept the useless ones

[naive oyster]

All except reflection and exploding

[viral solar]

I’d assume is sometime like mana steal > air dmg > walks Speed?

[crude plinth]

Walkspeed not for acrobat

[rough pivot]

Dm triflame if u want to sell it

[naive oyster]

I think mana steal only matters if you play shadestepper with low as

Personally i value walkspeed alot on items

[crude plinth]

Walkspeed addiction

[rough pivot]

23/2 nothing (took LE at 2nd roll)

[rough pivot]

42/11 dry

[viral solar]

nothing

[pulsar vortex]

omg this week is even worse than last

[rotund orbit]

huh how is that even possible

can you show ?

[quasi furnace]

Slayer and Boreal (shiny Gaia with dungeons)

Resur and SHiny crabs (Raids)

basically only shiny crabs and its corkus ....

[rotund orbit]

not shiny gaia again 😭

bro its a gaia invasion

[naive oyster]

Bruh the fuck is this

At this point i prefer getting boots over weapons

[rotund orbit]

well one more week to rest fro mlootruning

[viral solar]

Fuck me

[pulsar vortex]

its more worth to run TnA this week LMAO

[viral solar]

Looks like a week of corkus to get some resurgence

[viral solar]

Fr

[light halo]

Yoooo its the mythic that gets outdamaged by uniques

[pulsar vortex]

new world SE

at-least LE is better than last week, can't say anything else positive tho

[quasi furnace]

This weeks rotation is so sad (welp atleast i can get a good toxo and gaia for the collection for cheap ig thats good?)

[viral solar]

Fr I use to want a toxo super badly before 2.0 now it feels useless tho

[naive oyster]

It should work decent if you can manage the sp req

I got this today

[sick canyon]

triple gaia holyshit

[viral solar]

fuck aquamarine is in this weeks chest

me crying about the filter thing a week ago was for shit like this

id way prefer to have aquamarine have a higehr prioity than what ever the dumb legendary helm is

1 rr disco

wtf

[naive oyster]

What lb did you get on the disco

[viral solar]

Un id still

I have 1 already at 180%

[naive oyster]

Ah ok

[rotund orbit]

not me lootruning for the first time in 8 days just to do my weekly objective

[naive oyster]

I will probably raid this week. Im out of t3 amps 😄

[covert badge]

wtf? my dgrey glitched

i stacked 2 aquas and now it's telling me +6 +10

i took aqua here

and now i got this

and then my damage is bugged LMAO

i lost my boons??????????????????????????

i tried doing reject grove and did no dmg, now my curses legit swapped to different curses

i went from 45% enemy resistance to 15% and enemy walk speed went from 3*35% to 7*35%

my arrow storm only does 120k now but i previously was able to take down 15mil hp puppetry in 8 seconds (max dex + 1000% crit + 1100% spell dmg)

rip run ig

[naive oyster]

That happened to me too one time. How many curses did it give?

It might just be the text that is bugged

[covert badge]

i didnt take it

[naive oyster]

Ah same here sadly

[covert badge]

i took blue instead, and all my damage disappeared

i was tryna loot the gwanari and it took me like 5 arrow storms to kill the big slime

normally it takes half an arrow storm

[naive oyster]

Just sounds like completely cursed (no pun intended) run

[covert badge]

at least i got 128p 11rr from it

the bug happened only toward the end of the run

but im just gonna retreat until a good pool comes

[naive oyster]

Should have saved the run for next pool

[covert badge]

i ended up getting a +30p dgrey at the end, too scared to try for +50p bc of the situation i was in

yeah i saved it lmao im not tryna get any more gaias

[naive oyster]

You didnt actually end it though right

[covert badge]

nope

[naive oyster]

Ok good

[covert badge]

the one good lootrun attempt and it only happens after the hero idol pool

:^) i will vanish until epoch returns

[timid quail]

same to me yesterday

[viral solar]

172 pull no rr fatal

[viral solar]

nothing i hate corkus

[pulsar vortex]

corkus is miserable to lr, hoping they add sky or rodo soon, it’s been a while since last update

[timid quail]

rodo lr when upper molten heights

[timid quail]

no barriers in corkus
yet

[viral solar]

The place where u grind avos feathers and rune or whatever

It’s not bad tho

[timid quail]

only there

not blocking major route
while se destroy gate to and rejected grove and olm city- lutho

[viral solar]

not sure how but /class and got my x2 beacon rr back

[light halo]

Lmao

[pulsar vortex]

weird i /class quite often during runs and never had that happen to me lol

[light halo]

Its wynncraft were talking about so kot really surprising

[pulsar vortex]

true

[naive oyster]

But do you do it while rerolling

[viral solar]

it happened cause i was at the end of this cave but my kills werent getting counted so i reset the mobs

oh also today i learned if ur on cool down for one lr camp u can still do another. so if u start corkus and end it and have 10 min timer u can go to lutho and not wait the 10 minutes and start another lr

if they keep this in i wonder if ull be able to cycle sky se rodo and corkus within the 10 minutes to basically never be on cooldown

[covert badge]

i mean it takes some time to switch between each camp tho no

atp might as well just sit 2 accs and /class between them

[viral solar]

I mean it takes way less than 10 minutes to tp scroll to corkus and start a new run

[timid quail]

soul points

[viral solar]

Y’all think we r gonna have 3 weeks in a row of trash?

[quasi furnace]

Pls no gaia invasion again

[naive oyster]

As long as there is something interesting like a Monster I would be happy

[quasi furnace]

So whats the roation like?

[rotund orbit]

shiny toxo

shiny archangel

with revenant and ashock

[quasi furnace]

Is ashock actually nice

Rip strato again

[viral solar]

why is aftershock even good?

[pulsar vortex]

trash week again eh

could be worse ig, could’ve been given 4 gaias lol

[light halo]

its the 3rd/4th best shaman relik (imo toxo, sunstar, immo are 100% worse, hadal prob too, idk about fanta)

pretty good for tstack

[rough pivot]

22/1 dry

[woven edge]

It does nice damage :D

[covert badge]

crazy 128p chest 0 raw emeralds

128p 11rr nothing

[viral solar]

I wish they would do something to spice up lring it feels so boring now

Idk I wish they would add more “sets” in the game that can actually be viable like morph. It would be fun to “chase” rare set items imo

[timid quail]

clock set

[sick canyon]

wait what's the counter on shiny toxo

[timid quail]

dungeon@sick canyon

[sick canyon]

aw I was hoping wars

[timid quail]

🔥

[rough pivot]

38/11 dry

[rough pivot]

18/1 dry

[rough pivot]

Fanta is mid/slightly weak because bad synergies

% spell cost with high intelligence and abilities too

[woven edge]

insane base 😍

39% spell 😍

[rough pivot]

18/3 dry

[rough pivot]

18/3 dry (again)

[viral solar]

I wonder how many people are lring this week

[rotund orbit]

whats lootrun

[viral solar]

Fr

[rough pivot]

I'm just doing my free roll + 5 pulls on reset strat (so I'm getting like 4-5 effective pulls per minute 😎)

[viral solar]

Explain?

[rough pivot]

Doing 1 lootrun per day

Minimal efficiency on short runs is like 3 pulls a minute with absolutely minimal effort

[rough pivot]

19/3 dry

[crude plinth]

The real grindset

[rotund orbit]

salted on his way to somehow make lootruning even less fun

[rough pivot]

I'm assuming economy is getting ruined even more

[runic inlet]

loot now spawns when a player is running, lootruns removed

[light halo]

0m

[quasi furnace]

Alr will mythic rates get nerfed again or not thats the question

[light halo]

If they are nerfed again salted is legit braindead

[naive oyster]

I dont think mythic rates will get nerfed, if anything the individual loot chests could get a buff/internal rework

[quasi furnace]

i just hope they make disco relevant again

[pulsar vortex]

^ I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen

Salted did say a few weeks / a month ago that he wants disco to be more useful

so that would make sense tbh

[viral solar]

If yellow beacons still aren’t fixed I swear to god

If I go into a cave with multiple chests and it’s a “yellow” it should buff all the chests not just the next “random” chest

[viral solar]

Idk how they would fix lring tho. I feel there needs to be way more “chase” items but idk how I would implement that. Imo shinies just don’t do it for me

[light halo]

Tbh thats functionally a non issue unless you get that on your last challenge, the problem they should fix is loot chests only spawning one em stack (which they likely are gonna do, at least i saw a ct talking abt the bug existing so would be kinda weird if they didnt)

• change yellows so its not just ing spam

[covert badge]

i wonder how it would be if they capped yellows but made them much stronger towards getting good loot

probably something stupid could happen but it would be interesting

[light halo]

Yeah, iirc they only give lb right now and no lq

Maybe something like eb instead of just e or smth could work too

[covert badge]

but it could potentially change the entire dynamic where ppl can just reset after 10 challenges just spamming yellows so idk some sort of balance has to be found

[rough pivot]

I don't trust salted

[viral solar]

New pools?

[quasi furnace]

SE:
Convergence
Moontower
Immolation
Toxoplasmosis
Dawnbreak
Shiny Idol (Wars Won)

Corkus:
Monster
Immolation
Discoverer
Shiny Freedom (Mobs Killed)

wars won super idol lmao

[viral solar]

Ya ig worth lr this week

Moon tower are always nice to have imo

Ty btw

[quasi furnace]

new world should look like this

[viral solar]

Any decent legendary or rares?

[light halo]

Noontower is pog (i need a 2nd so i can use acam on mage and archer at the same time )

[quasi furnace]

dont think so, Legendarys in cork: Cardiac arrest, Hetsuol, Cancer, Asphyxia | Rares in Cork: Ambiguity, Kernel, Phantasmagoria,
Legendarys in SE: Nethers Scar, Stratosphere | Rares in SE: Agave, Foreboding, Soarfae, Kernel (didnt list the weapons but who cares about them ig)

Gnossis in Cork is nice ig

[light halo]

Nscar and strato are kinda decent

Actually, i guess nscar rolls dont matter that much so mainly strato

[rotund orbit]

patch 2.0.5 aqua beacons can no longer appear at all go cope

ok this is crazy

[quasi furnace]

look at the grey changes

rip the rr meta

[rotund orbit]

anyway besides the missions and the new corkian items this update seems garbage

as expected

and ofcourse no mythic rate reduction + 2 new camps so you can expect more mythics to reach 10 le unid price

[quasi furnace]

No disco changes rip

[viral solar]

Soardface sell for like 3-6 un id I think

Omg reading the patch notes I’m like 90% sure lring is going to be fucking aids now oh god

[rotund orbit]

lring might be fun (?) but 4 camps and no mythic rate nerf is just atrocious

therefore lring automaticaly becomes unfun regardless of the gameplay being possibly good

[runic inlet]

no easily accessible rerolls should be a pretty impactful nerf tho

[viral solar]

I do agree with that. Personally to combat that I’ve been just giving my mythics away

[rotund orbit]

deppends if there are rerolls from missions or not

as far as i can tell we havent been shown every mission available in the patch note

[runic inlet]

you get 4 missions maх per run

so like 5 rerolls with daily if you highroll assuming you can get rr's even

[quasi furnace]

didnt salted basically say that we get overall less rrs but we get the sacrifice thing now

[runic inlet]

Sac is hard to evaluate

[quasi furnace]

we dont know much about it rn tbh like how much do missions boost the sac % rate

[runic inlet]

just milk each run for multiple months straight and build up infinitely high loot rarity and loot bonus

[quasi furnace]

10k pull no rr run inc

[runic inlet]

sac for 300% pulls neхt run

[light halo]

I guess sac is actually pretty cool if youre grinding for a specific mythic because it just keeps compounding

[quasi furnace]

Reqs for Sky

Sky has 5 mythics +1 shiny on beta atleast also new tracker

[runic inlet]

lick iew

[light halo]

ok chests open warp would be poggers ngl

[quasi furnace]

Rodo has 6 mythics +1 shiny on beta tf

[light halo]

so corkus is just absolutely useless?

[runic inlet]

wtf

[quasi furnace]

cork rotation is the same as on live rn maybe it changes next week to be better??

[runic inlet]

does SE have like 7+1 now or something

[light halo]

idk but isnt se still best because better locations?

[runic inlet]

higher mythic pool is double edged tbh

[quasi furnace]

only SE and SKY have the new id items rn

Also rodo reqs hope you guys have done the doguns quest cause i havent

[viral solar]

What’s going to happen to my lrs that already gave +4 beacon options that I’m half way thru when the update comes?

[light halo]

just finish them before

[runic inlet]

probably will be joever for the run

but if you want a funny, stack some rerolls before update and chain red green after

and then post smth like "wynn economy is dead, 36 shiny idols single chest"

[quasi furnace]

and if you dont get anything sac the rewards lmao

[viral solar]

I might save some just to see what happens

[light halo]

fair, i guess like rainbow into 50 white into all red green would be funny

[runic inlet]

also is damage resist curse now 14% instead of 15% or something хdd

[viral solar]

Also reading the patch notes are rainbow beacons still a thing right?

[quasi furnace]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

I WANT TO DIE I ROLLED THAT ON THE HERO BETA

[runic inlet]

classic beta moment

[light halo]

yeah

[runic inlet]

fixed (i am a comedy genius)

[rotund orbit]

🔥

[viral solar]

Ok maybe lring won’t be so bad. Have they said when the change goes live? I lowkey hate wasting time on the hero beta

[rough pivot]

This might impair economy of good rolled mythics

[quasi furnace]

This can be interesting ig

[rotund orbit]

Oh it absolutely will, now even god rolls will drop in price

[quasi furnace]

also orange beacons can now appear more then 2 time but their effect vanishes after a certain amount of challenges

I think +1 for 6chals is normal vibrant +1 for 12 chals and aqua boosted prob +1 choice for 24 chals?

[rotund orbit]

Wouldn't it be +2 for 12 challenges and so on

[quasi furnace]

it isnt like that on the beta rn but imo it should be like that

[rough pivot]

Oh actually did they get rid of gray completely? Like no rerolls are possible?

[quasi furnace]

rrs are possible i think with the missions but havent played enough to know for certain

my daily rr was there atleast

[rough pivot]

Ok so lootruns might be actually fun

[rotund orbit]

Gotta love salted logic, instead of simply nerfing mythic rates he keeps nerfing lootruning by adding more and more rng to it

[rough pivot]

(This will clearly end in a tragedy)

[quasi furnace]

oh man it will be funny to see when the augment items will be more expensive then mythics lmao

[rotund orbit]

They absolutely will be

Especially the one that locks a roll, that's hella busted

[quasi furnace]

also idk why the augments cant be found in corkus lmao

[runic inlet]

old meta was boring so actually disagree

[quasi furnace]

that one is broken af

[rough pivot]

Tho I must say, +1 choice at the start, probably rainbow isn't a requirement probably to get god runs
Hmmmh orange nerf hurts a little but idk

[rotund orbit]

It was but now it's just more rng

[rough pivot]

Each beacon should be more well-rounded now

[runic inlet]

Now it is rate limited by daily rr

[viral solar]

I’m wondering the effect on potential pulls. Will a 10 hr lootrun only have like 500 pulls?

[runic inlet]

The new "heavy rng" will not be worth hard resetting for is my point

[quasi furnace]

idk depending on missions you can go for way more curses and since we have no green/red limit its prob more dependend on strategy at the end

also you can just sac pulls and if you have 500pulls that +250 pulls in the next lr (if you have the mission for it)

[rotund orbit]

That would be nice, resetting runs was cringe

[rough pivot]

Basically:
Aqua nerf
Gray nerf
Orange nerf
Rainbow nerf (indirectly)
Blue buff (indirectly)
Yellow buff
Purple buff

[quasi furnace]

3 choices at the start is amazing tho

[rotund orbit]

Wait we have 3 choices? I must have missed that part

[rough pivot]

Yes

[quasi furnace]

yes we have 3 from the start

[viral solar]

Ya

[rotund orbit]

That's good, now I'm less mad

[viral solar]

Fr I had to process that first, so with Orange u have 4 choices which isn’t “awful”

[runic inlet]

And since you will get rerolls one at a time, it means you will usually get some average N of rerolls, not either 0 or maх

[rough pivot]

Some missions seem interesting because they technically work like an live orange beacon
Like the materialism one

[viral solar]

Also having 5 classes to lr with will be Meta since you have 5 daily rr

[runic inlet]

So god runs are not as polarizing, and shit runs are rare

[viral solar]

Have fun lvl 15 classes to have max rr daily

[rough pivot]

I change that back, dark gray was net-neutral
And purple buff obv

[runic inlet]

what if rainbow worked like new orange

[viral solar]

Did they say when this change would be live?

[quasi furnace]

would be eh

[runic inlet]

ofc with it being uncapped but rare

It might sound bad but that is like the only point of interest for resets left

[quasi furnace]

rainbow seemed pretty easy to get from the 2 short runs i did on the beta server

[viral solar]

Also am I understanding it correctly are dark grey and purple beacons basically the same thing now?

[light halo]

dgra is just 3 purples at once

[viral solar]

Eeek

[worldly shell]

How do u get more rerolls now

[rotund orbit]

Idk I have yet to get in beta but I saw a ss of a run with 115 pull 30 rerolls that took 1 hour 2 minutes

So that seems fair

[worldly shell]

Lol

Balanced

[viral solar]

I played that beta for a bit I’m interested to see what builds will be meta. I’m semi stuck on my mid mage build. Imo the quest requirements r really annoying cause I don’t want to grind out 4 quests for the beta just for it to be reset and I have to do it all over again

[worldly shell]

discoverer meta?

[viral solar]

Most likely with yellow changes

Yellows are actually super cool now

[worldly shell]

materialism seems nutso with discoverer

[worldly shell]

these have durability i didnt notice wt

[quasi furnace]

The dura is basically used for diffrent textures, the only reason it even shows is because of a feather mod

[worldly shell]

Ah ok

Any notable missions so far

[quasi furnace]

2 others i got but idk if i wanna keep running on the beta server maybe ill try to get some more missions

[worldly shell]

backup beat kinda bonkers

[rotund orbit]

thats beacon rr

its not that good

[worldly shell]

oh whoops

which ones give reward rerolls

[rotund orbit]

gambling beast is the meta

[worldly shell]

what's that

[rotund orbit]

sacrafices 300 seconds each challenge done for 1 reroll, i got 16 rerolls in 42 minutes earlier with bad strategy but now i know whta to do and plan to get atleast 30 rerolls for the memes

[worldly shell]

oh nice green stack strategy

[quasi furnace]

Ultimate Sac can be good ig

[rotund orbit]

i think that one is bugged otherwise yeah it can be cool

cuz i got a grand total of 0 rerolls from sacraficing like 10 boons

[quasi furnace]

Surely theyll fix it before releasing it onto the main test server right??????

[worldly shell]

cleansing greed for the discoverer strat

[light halo]

9p 1rr

[rough pivot]

Considering how most beacons work beacon rerolls are better, because you have less chances of rolling into same ones

And probably you can dig for rainbows this way

[rotund orbit]

no lol, aqua green and red dont get affected at all by rerolls cuz they cant appear more than once

and those are the only ones that you'd hae a reason to reroll for imo

[rough pivot]

Doesn't that mean you can reroll out of it and go for grays for example?

[rotund orbit]

you cant reroll out of them or into them, if it appeared there is no rerolling it away and if it didnt appear u cant reroll into it

as for gray they seem common enough to where u wouldnt care about rring for them

with just 4-5 choices grey appears the moment i finish my current mission every time

[rough pivot]

Hm

[rotund orbit]

yeah it all seems fine to me

[quasi furnace]

lmao

thats actually insane

[worldly shell]

did they nerf the mythic rates btw

[rotund orbit]

they would have mentioned it if they did

[light halo]

nice 40 pulls per minute on 2 hour run seems balanced

[crude plinth]

We love lr 3.0

[runic inlet]

nice one

[rotund orbit]

😭

[light halo]

actually, isnt the update also a warp buff

(more damage boons)

[runic mesa]

crazy

[covert badge]

wtf

[viral solar]

How r people getting so many rr? What challenge is making that happen?

Nvm figured it out

[viral solar]

9 hour lr... (hero beta)

oh if anyone wants to know 2 mythic avg each roll and 1 1/2 stacks of le

it was hero and stratus, then stratus 2x, then just le 2x

[quasi furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/388406403791978516/1157805340776210482/image.png?ex=6519f1c0&is=6518a040&hm=5ef36d1955c46f64f2fa45e6d7575a31302d0e01a46c472cd4a0c5f165f68ad4& saw this in some channel absolutely insane

[rotund orbit]

🔥

In under 5 hours too, that really is insane

Bro got the exodia of mission powers

[rough pivot]

There is basically a mission reward that takes your time in exchange for rolls
Combined with a reward that just gives you extra challenges and stasis...

[timid quail]

🔥

[light halo]

Stratus?

[quasi furnace]

Strati

[pulsar vortex]

haven’t played the beta but so far is it a W or an L?

[runic inlet]

mostly W

can't believe they missed barriers on this cheese in 2.0.3

[light halo]

Hmm

[rotund orbit]

its alright

(the highest ive seen so far is ~1k pulls 400+ rerolls)

[runic inlet]

Conspiracy theory: cleansing ritual and gambling beast are joke missions that are only in beta to give us data on mythic rates

[rotund orbit]

yeah maybe

that one person that got 1k pull 400 rr practicaly got more than half of whats writen in the doc here 😂

[runic inlet]

Well let me give some REAL data from REAL server: 96/11 nothing

[rotund orbit]

(also ngl i have kinda stoped tracking stuff into the doc lately)

might resume once 2.0.4 drops

[runic inlet]

A couple of beta runs are enough to get fairly accurate stats anyway

[rotund orbit]

true

[light halo]

btw what is the base amount of challenges for the lrs in beta?

[viral solar]

10 for MH I’m not sure sky

[chilly wave]

Is that the way to do it?

[rotund orbit]

mostly, you'd be better with time stasis instead of backup beat

especaily with today's gambling beast nerf

[sick canyon]

what gambling beast nerf

[light halo]

are best missions just statis + gambling best then cleansing thing?

[quasi furnace]

se - raids won ignis, fatal, tcrack, monster, pure, hadal
cork - players killed gaia, strati, idol, nirvana, collapse, hero
sky - chest open lament, fatal, sunstar, idol, guard, immo
mh - mobs killed obli, slayer, sunstar, galleon, crabs, alka, revenant

[rotund orbit]

sky 🤤

[quasi furnace]

wdym players killed gaia all the way lmao

[rotund orbit]

nah sky is cool for me personaly cuz i collect shiny wands and i need lament

[quasi furnace]

ic im kinda sad that freedom and cata are still not in the rot

[runic inlet]

ngl wanna lr cork

especially with changed pirate lattice

[rotund orbit]

is pirate lattice actualy good now ?

[runic inlet]

it deals like 1k damage and spits you up when you fall

[rough pivot]

(too bad it scales with mob damage)

(it really hurts later)

[sick canyon]

ignis ignis ignis

[rough pivot]

Did they cap grays to 2 or is it like you have to take it every time it shows up because every time you skip you have -1 mission? Or maybe they won't be showing up if your are doing missions too slow?

[sick canyon]

gray can't appear if you have a mission in progress + it also increases in rarity every time you don't take it

[light halo]

Its some weird condition

Maybe you cant get them above 20 challenges or smth but definitely nothing thats documented ingsme

[sick canyon]

would be kinda fucked up if it was -1 mission per gray passed

[runic inlet]

grey#3 seems to not appear if you aqua a grey, or maybe after like chal25

either one of those makes it cap at 2

[sick canyon]

they can definitely appear after challenge 25 I got one at 75

[runic inlet]

then it must be aqua, because i had 7 beacon choices and never had 7th beacon (3rd gray) appear

[light halo]

Im pretty sure it isnt, i got 2 grey without aqua/rainbow and then did 40 more challenges (some with orange) 0 greys

[timid quail]

my grey love to appear at the same time as my rainbow

[worldly shell]

what's the meta strat guys

what missions do you prioritize

[crude plinth]

Depends

[light halo]

Gb even though its bugged, cleansing thing, stasis/half curses in that orderis what i go for, the first two are most important

[worldly shell]

GB is bugged?

[crude plinth]

cleansing ritual is op

Monster (no rr)

[light halo]

Yes unless they shadowpatched it

[crude plinth]

Prioritize reroll or sacrifice missions. Then choose other missions to support those or make the run easier

[rough pivot]

I've got nirvana yesterday 66/9 (somewhere in mid of rerolls) if you are still gathering data

gambling beast still good

[worldly shell]

I see

What beacons are prio

[rough pivot]

with gambling?

[worldly shell]

Yah

[light halo]

Grey > rainbow > other stuff

[rough pivot]

aqua into green

[light halo]

Actually, with this jug its truly """gambling""" beast because youre gambling to get good rng to get more chances to gamble