#"Figuring" out the lootrun camp mythic rate

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meager quail
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99 10rr no mythic

pulsar vortex
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73 pulls, 6rr: nothing

pulsar vortex
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65 pulls, 10rr: nothing

pulsar vortex
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68 pulls, 10rr: nothing

void hornet
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65 pulls 10 rr nothing

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8 pull 0 rr nothing

rotund orbit
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65 10 my beloved

pulsar vortex
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i love 65 10 runs 😍

viral solar
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160 10 reroll nothing

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3 hour lr im dead how do u guys do the fast 15 min ones?

rotund orbit
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tldr what we do is aqua aqua at the start then if we dont get orange after rerolls just end it and repeat

viral solar
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do you just end the run early? i got the luckish on the 3 hour run but i waited till the end to do the dark grey

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tysm for strat

light halo
pulsar vortex
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i just did a funny lmao (got nothing btw)

light halo
gentle lake
pulsar vortex
light halo
viral solar
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nothing

chilly wave
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no mythic

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did they patch the aqua beacon?

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i did not get it on my second challenge

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v aqua into v orange gotta love it

pulsar vortex
viral solar
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sadge

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i can only find orage either insatatly or not at all

gritty socket
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23/10rr convergence with 6rr left

light halo
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Anyone here has a good archer build without mythics? (Im poor skull)

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Actually ,i could propably sell some of my mythics for freedom but thats too much effort

quasi furnace
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got a immo after using 4rrs but skipped it got nothing else

pulsar vortex
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71 pulls, 6rr: nothing

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24 pulls, 4rr: nada

sick canyon
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68 pull 10rr nothing

pulsar vortex
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68 pulls, 10rr: nothing

chilly wave
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no mythic

viral solar
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this makes me so annoyed

runic mesa
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got a immo first roll and then kept rr into a quetz on the 9th roll (also new personal record💪 )

sick canyon
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122 challenges in corkus I could never

narrow veldt
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corkus. nothing

gentle lake
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nothing

pulsar vortex
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77 pulls, 10rr: nothing

rough pivot
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War drip

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I hope that you keep that one yourself

rough pivot
viral solar
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How long can I wait to finish my lr, I started a god run but just don’t feel like doing it rn, can I log off and finish it tomorrow?

frail sinew
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246 pulls 7 rrs no mythics

pulsar vortex
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71 pulls, 10rr: grimtrap 1st roll (didnt take, ended up with nothing)

viral solar
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NOTHING

west blaze
viral solar
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Marq I feel like I need some help with like logic of path sometimes. Does the run really just depend on if you get aqua aqua orange right away? I don’t really wanna trash like 7/8 runs cause I didn’t get the right luck, any thoughts on what I should do/if I just need to change my mindset or something, any tips appreciated

west blaze
pulsar vortex
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108 pulls, 10rr: nothing ;/

timid quail
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70 roll 0 rr othing

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god refuse to give me white and grey

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they give me white and grey after i take dark grey 💀

gritty socket
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nothing

dusk musk
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You do realise that the numbers will be significantly skewed because of how youve chosen to collect the data?

light halo
dusk musk
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You should cut out any one time outliers and select any consistent submitters you have and base it on that instead

dusk musk
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So you would have some data points start with 2k rolls no mythic, or have that be the only point I’m guessing. Didn’t look too far into it

rotund orbit
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Tbf I'd say that almost all submissions are from people that submit often

dusk musk
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But this is basic statistics, you cant have this bias in selecting your numbers if you want accuracy 😔

timid quail
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i am on 5k effective no mythic💀

west blaze
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i decide whether i submit before checking rewards, and dont bother with low effective pull runs

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despite getting a mythic in like 14 raw pulls

dusk musk
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But well, looks like your personal numbers managed to match up p well to the overall number, so maybe it didn’t have too big of an effect 🤷‍♂️

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(Unless it’s a coincidence 💀)

gritty socket
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no mythic

timid quail
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8 challenge completed 💀

worldly shell
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do i jsut

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retire if I dont get aqua aqua orange

west blaze
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unfortunately that is the meta

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hopefully aqua nerf + starting choice buff soon

worldly shell
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sad

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what do i do if i get aqua aqua rainbow

queen tide
gritty socket
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no mythic

west blaze
worldly shell
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i think 70-80 rewards pool with as many rerolls is sweetspot

west blaze
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what they said (nothing)

sick canyon
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234 pull 10 rr nothing

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I took 107 curses for this 🥲

rotund orbit
sick canyon
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it wasn't worth it apparently

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it's ok I have another 100 challenge run going

rotund orbit
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Same thing for my 200 pull 10 rr run

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I just can't get mythics from super long runs

sick canyon
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shrug

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I haven't gotten anything since shiny epoch
long runs or no

rotund orbit
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Medium length runs however 😻

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Same tbf, shiny epoch is my latest mythic for now

west blaze
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i had that happen once since the patch but no idea why it happened

sick canyon
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no

west blaze
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howd you sustain 100 curses

sick canyon
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well yes but I didn't use it bc it's exploitable and bannable

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✨boons✨

west blaze
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cool

sick canyon
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it only takes like
40-50 boons to be all set

west blaze
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nothing

west blaze
sick canyon
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50k

rotund orbit
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boons sure are fun in long runs

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i love doing around 1m dps through 90% DR

chilly wave
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no mythic

meager quail
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didnt get red white or orange beacon 💀
no mythics

rotund orbit
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reminds me of this run

light halo
sick canyon
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it also was (that's why the guy that shouted about it got banned)

rotund orbit
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thats rough

sick canyon
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just got a 14 rr run :D
now the question is whether to extend it to 100 challenges or end early with dark gray

rotund orbit
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btw would anyone be interested in seeing the data split into 2 categories?
one for <750 effective pulls and one for >750

rotund orbit
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i'd try to get ~100 pulls and end

sick canyon
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m

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not necessarily

light halo
rotund orbit
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oh yeah thats a good point

sick canyon
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long runs are still more efficient when u consider that you're avging more pulls/min compared to when you're waiting for a god run to drop

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however I already have a 100 challenge run lined up so hmmm

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maybe I'll end that one early and keep the 14 for a longer one

chilly wave
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btw @rotund orbit if you want to try it out i always do it on this spot I do hold shift bcs he has a pull spell but its pretty easy to cheese it from here with 0 chance at it bugging out

rotund orbit
sick canyon
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I do not get god runs 70% of the time like

rotund orbit
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skill issue tbh

sick canyon
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I get them 100% of the time

rotund orbit
light halo
sick canyon
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L

light halo
rotund orbit
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and i cant even do anything about it cuz i have no controll of my character with that lag

rotund orbit
sick canyon
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it can get into walls yeah

rotund orbit
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the worst is when its directly above you under the cliff

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cuz then even shift cant save you skull

sick canyon
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shrug

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I've never had too much of a problem with it I just kill it or just don't hit it in the first place

rotund orbit
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i also kill it but when its in the air and i have to melee it with warp its 😭

sick canyon
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imagine using mage

rotund orbit
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imagine not using mage

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me when i have to cast 50 charges just to get up a small cliff

chilly wave
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2 rerolls 80 pulls

light halo
chilly wave
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this is my 4th guardian xd I JUST WANT THE SHINY EPOCH MAN

sick canyon
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did u mean 80 pulls

light halo
chilly wave
chilly wave
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if i dont get an orange start i stop and if i do get an orange start it turns 95% of the time into a good run

light halo
light halo
chilly wave
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uhh just other stuff outside the game

rotund orbit
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and i personaly just play 2v2v2v2 league of legends since the matches are quick

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i aint trying to salvage the run if it doesnt work out right away with the current meta skull

chilly wave
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what would you guys do in this scenario btw?

rotund orbit
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if they make long runs more viable then sure

light halo
chilly wave
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generally i just still take aqua and skip 1+ orange

light halo
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Because it feels like when i take orange once the second orange is way more rare (propably just subjective but idk); you also have chance for vib orabge on 3

meager quail
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75 10 rr, no mythic

chilly wave
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aqua aqua rainbow aqua aqua nothing F - no mythic

rotund orbit
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ouch

west blaze
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3 rolls left

west blaze
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one of the oranges doesnt have to be boosted, and taking it saves 2 aqua + makes other aqua higher success chance

chilly wave
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huh but wouldnt that make getting a good run harder?

rotund orbit
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i would end the run cuz too hard choice like

west blaze
chilly wave
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the way i thought about it was that taking 1 orange here means your next orange needs to be reallllyyy good

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like it needs to be 4+ for a good run which is difficult right

rotund orbit
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your next orange just needs to be + 3 and you are fine

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that would mean that you need to play it slower ofc

chilly wave
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3+ is the coinflipping though right

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yeah true

rotund orbit
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you can remove the coinflip by playing for a bit longer

west blaze
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certanly easier to get when you have 3 choices

chilly wave
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idk i mean if you take it now then your next aqua is pretty mediocre because you cannot take orange unless its vibrant

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and then you'd have to basically get rainbow on 3 choices to save it right

west blaze
rotund orbit
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you just dont take the next aqua

west blaze
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^

rotund orbit
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or take it anyway and hope for white/vibrant orange

chilly wave
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okay that makes sense but your odds are pretty bad right

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like at stabelizing the run itself

rotund orbit
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eh its probably more likely to stabilize it but it will take longer

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which i dont like hence why i wold take aqua and hope for luck

chilly wave
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gotta go for that 15m perfect run

rotund orbit
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fr fr 🤤

frail sinew
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202 10 rr grim on 6th roll nothing else in the other 5

timid quail
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💀 from random mob

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i see why i haev 6000 pull no mythic now

chilly wave
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dammnn nice

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which one of them is the best to get? Sunstar is terrible right?

void hornet
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olympic is probably the most valuable of those rn

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hasnt been in any chest and is actually useable

timid quail
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toxo is nice

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please no fkin sunstar, it will be my 3rd

chilly wave
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immo on second reroll

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damn this is a tough call

jovial rivet
chilly wave
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ehh idk about that

rotund orbit
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bro got 2 immolations

chilly wave
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mythics have become rare af

jovial rivet
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Immo kinda ass

chilly wave
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it is but chances are i end up with no LE

jovial rivet
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Maybe keep it for eventual buff

chilly wave
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im just gonna take it ive rolled over an immo in this exact scenario before 2 days ago and ended up with like 3 le

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really starting to wonder if i should ID some of them or just wait it out since LR is gonna get nerfed again soon

jovial rivet
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Why dafuq nerf again

chilly wave
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i mean yeah the aqua beacon is not gonna appear at the start twice which makes godruns more difficult to get

jovial rivet
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What u mean

chilly wave
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Im slightly confused what do you not understand?

jovial rivet
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Ur saying nerf, what nerf

chilly wave
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well for sure Dgrey

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and aqua is getting patched to the way it used to be

jovial rivet
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Did they say it is going to be nerfed and is aqua bugged?

chilly wave
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no but Dgrey is so broken rn it has to get nerfed there is no way the wont

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and yeah aqua is bugged to always appear when it can so its easy to get godruns rn

jovial rivet
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But its nice now why nerf stuff more to make it less fun

chilly wave
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bcs its pretty unbalanced

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a 50 + pull rewards for no drawback is to broken

jovial rivet
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Then they should just nerf mythic chance, stop nerfing the mechanics being fun and satisfying

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Dont u agree?

chilly wave
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all im saying is its getting either reworked or nerfed so play while it lasts

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its not upto me anyway but i know for sure its changing one way or another

jovial rivet
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So tired of them overnerfing stuff making it tedious and annoying like the grey nerf

timid quail
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my mythic chance from end rewad chest has been nerfed heard

chilly wave
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yeah the mythic chances dropped drastically which was a fair nerf imo it was way to easy to get mythics b4 the first hotfix right?

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basically almost guaranteed as long as you got 1k+ pulls

meager quail
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no mythic

west blaze
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deja vu with 4 left

timid quail
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😭

void hornet
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70 pull guard on 2nd roll

west blaze
jovial rivet
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Having bricked runs over and over because of overnerfs isnt fun

west blaze
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so not having to reset runs would be fun, right?

jovial rivet
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At that point ur not even doing the gameplay

jovial rivet
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having the occasional brick is fine

west blaze
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thats what i said

jovial rivet
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No?

west blaze
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then i don't understand your answer

jovial rivet
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Maybe u implied it but i didnt understand but its not what you said

west blaze
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im saying that aqua being this way is responsible for resetting runs a bunch of times, and thats not as fun as playing the run you've been given

jovial rivet
timid quail
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WHY

jovial rivet
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No orange beacon = bricked run

west blaze
timid quail
west blaze
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or rather the number of beacon options

timid quail
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i give up

jovial rivet
chilly wave
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archangel 9th reroll

chilly wave
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unless you got rainbow realllyyy early on but even then rainbow is kind of dead without getting oranges

timid quail
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rainbow on first

chilly wave
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yeah thats fair i would probably go to 6 with rainbow first

timid quail
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and + 50 white

chilly wave
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did you use your rerolls in the first 6 challenges for orange

timid quail
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i used all

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i used but didn't got 😭

chilly wave
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then its already kind of over xd getting orange with 2 options is really difficult rn unless you do it

timid quail
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my rng is doomed

chilly wave
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whilst on 3,6,9,12,15 ect whenever aqua is not there but you shouldnt drag on a run

timid quail
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no mythic in end chest since hotfix 1
forever cursed with sunstar(got 3 this month)

west blaze
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30 mythics (none)

void hornet
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48 pull 10rr nothing

west blaze
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grimtrap (i rolled fully)

chilly wave
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no mythic

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no mythic

void hornet
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8 pulls nothing

meager quail
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no mythic

west blaze
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nothing

pulsar vortex
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wtf

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I /class to go toilet, select the class and my run is gone?? and the chest doesnt have the pulls or anything

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bro i just lost a godly run wtf is this bs

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thats actually mega cringe

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you cant be ducking serious

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ugh

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wasted 40 mins of my life gg wynncraft

gritty socket
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nothing

pulsar vortex
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NOW DUCKING THIS, BRO AINT NO WAY

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??????????

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another ducking godly run fml

chilly wave
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whats happening

pulsar vortex
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bro

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whats happening is (FYI): wynncraft

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basically i completed a challenge and now its fully glitched, like it spamming a sound and not giving me any beacons

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i even tried leaving the server and rejoining and its still glitched

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awesome, so 1 hour and 20 mins wasted!!!

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i guess this game doesnt want me to play today

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duck this, time for cookie clicker

rotund orbit
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based]

timid quail
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wynncrab moment

meager quail
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78 pull 10rr, archangel on 7th reroll

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2 archangel streak :(

light halo
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Ok it doesnt

pulsar vortex
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lol i said duck instead because i assumed it would delete "fuck" XD

void hornet
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65 pull 10 rr nothin

pulsar vortex
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73 pulls, 10rr (finally a non-bugged run lol): 7th rr got archangel (took it because of how sad i was about the time wasted before lmfao)

timid quail
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u got mythic i got sunstar

pulsar vortex
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oh you got 10 le, nice

timid quail
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from regular mob

timid quail
pulsar vortex
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there should be a new reference for 10le: "sunstar"

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fits well

light halo
rough pivot
pulsar vortex
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but idk if it will sell for that much

pulsar vortex
chilly wave
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did they just fix aqua?

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if so F easy godruns

pulsar vortex
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i hope not

quasi furnace
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nothing, also 82 pulls from multiple failed runs with nothing

chilly wave
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i didnt get it the first challenge but the second and third gave me which probably are forced aquas

pulsar vortex
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64 pulls, 10rr: nothing

pulsar vortex
chilly wave
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wortld 53 idk how to check it

light halo
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/lobby then look for it

void hornet
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73 pulls 10 rr got archangel with 4 rrs left (7th roll)

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this is my 3rd archangel from this weeks chest

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didnt get convergence or grimtrap yet :(

light halo
chilly wave
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i thought it did aswell since im not on it rn and i think it does yeah

light halo
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(Id assume it works on a weight system and aqua just has 5 billion weight)

pulsar vortex
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is aqua being as first challenge a bug? I feel like if it was it would be fixed already, they just would need to change the weighing for aqua

chilly wave
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because im pretty sure for everyone aqua has been 1st challenge and second challenge right?

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into not being on 3 ect ect. but this is the first time for me that it has not been on 1, 2 but instead on 2, 3

light halo
chilly wave
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so i just hit one in a trillion or however high the weight is set to?

light halo
chilly wave
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if so that's insane xd but yeah probably that's what happend true

light halo
pulsar vortex
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45 pulls (sad), 14rr: nothing

chilly wave
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rainbow into aqua into orange. gotta love it

gritty socket
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no mythic

pulsar vortex
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73 pulls, 6rr: immo 1st roll (didnt take), 4th roll got guardian (i took it)

void hornet
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73 pull 10 rr nothing

runic inlet
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37/1 nothing (had to use the daily buff in limited time)

viral solar
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nothing (sad)

void hornet
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65 pull 10 rr got immo on 4th roll gonna keep going (got nothing)

rotund orbit
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@real umbra

void hornet
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who did you ping before.....

rotund orbit
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idk...

real umbra
rotund orbit
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asoart imposter

real umbra
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its my fake account

void hornet
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havent changed to new username

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tragic story of asoart#2689

pulsar vortex
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71 pulls, 10rr: nothing

chilly wave
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convergence 8th reroll

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and another run i forgot to post here apparantly that was 74 pulls 10 rerolls 0 mythics

viral solar
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Y’all make me sad

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I need to get better at the 30 minute runs I’m just so slow

void hornet
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68 pull 10 rr got guard on 5th roll

void hornet
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24 pull no rr got nothing (15le)

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btw @rotund orbit are you still keeping up with all the submission and have a current number for us

naive elk
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surely

rotund orbit
void hornet
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oh

rotund orbit
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infact im working on overhauling it a bit so it shows <75 pull runs <200 pull runs and >200 pull runs separately

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im just strugglin with some goofy ass excel formulas >.<

rotund orbit
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to see how much more effective are big pulls

naive elk
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just as much as the normal ones lol?

rotund orbit
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since they are supposed to be better in theory

naive elk
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as long as the code isng tbugged

rotund orbit
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some ct alredy said that the more pulls you have the more bad loot gets filtered out hence better odds for good loot

naive elk
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yes, in the 36 box slots. but of course each pull is weighted the same

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like each pull gives u the same odds and then the bad items are sieved outside of the 36 box slots (or well the worse items / less weighted items)

pulsar vortex
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i actually dont think theres a difference between 60 vs 100, seems like the odds are similarish, would assume 200 is slightly better than 60 but those runs take longer

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so i think medium length runs are the ideal, but thats only in the current meta lol

sick canyon
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technically the ideal run goes (vibrant) aqua orange aqua rainbow aqua aqua gray aqua aqua dgray

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for 14 rr 60 pull in ~10-15 minutes

pulsar vortex
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yeah so short-medium as you cant always get that lucky

sick canyon
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idk man I’ve been only doing 200+ pull runs

naive elk
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long runs are just really fun

chilly wave
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medium runs are probably the most optimal for time since with long runs you have a greater chance at pulling multiple mythics in the same run which isn't rewarding with the current system. whilst bursting out lots of small/medium runs will just be more efficient

pulsar vortex
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true, i just hope gm gets +1 beacon choice, and maybe to make it less OP only have 1 max orange per run, that would be mega fun

naive elk
pulsar vortex
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yea thats why its cool that we're collecting data, so we can see the difference (if any)

sick canyon
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the difference is that short-medium runs avg about 1-30 pulls/min

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while longer runs usually go around 20ish
so depending on how often you’re rolling those 10rr 70 pull runs it’s equally or more optimal to do long runs

naive elk
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1-30 😂

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dark grey seems weak this patch

chilly wave
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no mythic

chilly wave
sick canyon
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I disagree! I also just have shit luck with orange tho

naive elk
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aqua fix when

chilly wave
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or do you drag a run out further?

sick canyon
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no I stop at challenge 1 if I don’t get v aqua

chilly wave
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uhm what? thats a joke right xed

sick canyon
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then yeah reset at challenge 3 if no orange

naive elk
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idk no rainbow / orange til 5 is kinda fucked

sick canyon
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it’s not a joke! I just maintain consistent 100ish challenge runs while rolling for more good runs

chilly wave
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well you are missing out on a lot of god runs let me tell you xd

sick canyon
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considering that I have 100% god run uptime I don’t think I am but ok!

chilly wave
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so you'd roll the aqua on challenge 1 aswell then i suppose?

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since you say that if you dont get a v aqua on one you stop the run

sick canyon
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ya

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if I don’t have another run lined up then I’ll take the first two aquas but that’s rare

chilly wave
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thats crazy man xd you are allowed to do what you want ofc but this is not optimal at all

sick canyon
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so false worstie

chilly wave
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you can ask any of the people that do 15-30m runs here if they reroll on aqau yes or no

sick canyon
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it’s significantly less optimal to waste 2 minutes getting aquas to roll 3rd challenge than spend that time progressing a god run

chilly wave
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i dont think any of them will say : ''yeah ofc i do.'' bcs it doesnt make sense you are missing out on so many oranges

naive elk
sick canyon
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you can’t skip the cooldown on multiple classes

naive elk
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oh my bad

chilly wave
naive elk
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wait how do you like do it then to always hope on first roll

sick canyon
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what you can do is run on multiple classes at once with starts spaced out by 10 minutes

naive elk
sick canyon
chilly wave
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like nothing you say is true since the whole RNG part of getting a godrun is in obtaining the first orange

sick canyon
chilly wave
naive elk
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well its a bit different ig

sick canyon
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I think you missed the part where I said you can get 100% god run uptime so therefore it’s less optimal to waste time on regular aqua rolling but ok!

sick canyon
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wow really that’s crazy who would’ve guessed that

chilly wave
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poopfungus what makes you not understand that you'd still have to go through to challenge 3 to look if you get an orange? its not giving you anymore uptime

sick canyon
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anyway i’m kinda in a pickle now bc my archer is mid 100 challenge 10 rr run but I just got 14rr on my warrior so idk if I should extend the run or not

chilly wave
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how is it this difficult to understand like you could refresh for a vibrant aqau on 1 all you want but it still comes down to the orange

sick canyon
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v aqua into orange is significantly better for rainbow chances than reg aqua
so by not rolling reg aquas I can use that extra time to progress on my other god runs
yeah in the end I still have to check for orange but I’m spending less time on it

chilly wave
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ok you understand that point now get this. scenario which probably happens a lot in your case. you start a run its not V aqua then you reroll 1/2 it turns out to be v aqua. Ok good so you proceed and you go to challenge 3 with either 1/0 rerolls for the orange. Now from my experiences having 2 rerolls on challenge 3 is lifesaving it has saved so many runs for me.

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so when you say it saves you more time it doesn't make sense to me you know?

naive elk
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he doesnt lose any time on resetting tho

sick canyon
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^ I lose 0 time by resetting a run but I lose 2 minutes by taking regular aquas to challenge 3 and not getting orange

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and frankly +3 beacon choice is just not that good compared to 4+

chilly wave
void hornet
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the difference between +3 and +4 is massive

naive elk
#

like +3 is good yea but more is a lot nicer

sick canyon
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6 choice is the threshold to start guaranteeing beacons easily

chilly wave
#

ofc more is nice when is it not but 3+ gives you enough options to enable a godrun

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you'd still need to get the crucial beacons for sure but its a lot easier

void hornet
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with +3 you actually need some amount of luck and cant gurantee everything

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with +4 its a walk in the park

chilly wave
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sure yeah i mean if you ended up not getting anymore oranges after 3+ then its not working

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but thats never happend to me b4

viral solar
pulsar vortex
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fasted class is either warrior or mage tbh

viral solar
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i wanna know if down the line the speed from archers catches up tho for travel time

sick canyon
#

in longer runs archer is faster than mage

viral solar
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like i wonder if theres like a curve to it, ive been having alot of thoughts about the speed 5 assassin can get

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wait really that makes me sad oh god

sick canyon
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no amount of ws is faster than teleport

naive elk
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it wont ever make big enough a difference. also, speed surges are a thing

sick canyon
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also assassin has severe downtime on that speed 5

viral solar
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ya i use speed surges for my shaman

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i was liking my warp build it just feels way more "squishy" than my shaman

sick canyon
#

🤨

viral solar
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without heal i just felt way more "scared" if that makes sense

sick canyon
#

uh ok
you shouldn’t be taking dmg as mage in the first place

chilly wave
#

true

sick canyon
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just avoid bone monstrosity and you’re all set

chilly wave
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90% of the challenges you can do as mage without taking dmg

west blaze
#

can't avoid THIS bone monsrosity

naive elk
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not time wise ig but generally

sick canyon
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ok but I wasn’t talking about warrior

naive elk
#

well

sick canyon
#

also time wise bone monstrosity is faster for warrior than dernic farming slay

viral solar
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what is warrior meta? i dont have an idol would a hero work?

naive elk
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hero works well

viral solar
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ig i need to think about my build more

naive elk
#

y

viral solar
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i dont get how people use sav sac i get so scared at below 30% health

naive elk
#

well u just dont get hit, but you dont even need to force ssac

sick canyon
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it’s below 50% but also you can just. not proc it

light halo
#

does ssac even buff yourself?

naive elk
chilly wave
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i thought they patched this 0_o

viral solar
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ya i thought it might be to much effort just for some silly ratios

rotund orbit
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i see nothing wrong with this

chilly wave
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the vibrant rainbow

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it doesn't do anything right

sick canyon
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no but there’s no real reason to explicit prevent it

chilly wave
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that's true

light halo
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btw im 100% sure tehy rolled a patch, didnt get any aquas withing first 3 challenges

chilly wave
#

they probably have bigger bugs to fix

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how long has your server been up for?

light halo
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tehres also a new challenge in se

chilly wave
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thats an F

sick canyon
#

oh hot

naive elk
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theres like 3 new ones

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eyeball cave this one and drill olm church thing attack

chilly wave
# light halo 30m

have you seen Dgrey yet? i wanna know if they nerfed it or if they only patched aqua and added challenges

sick canyon
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more challenges to cheese 😳

light halo
naive elk
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according to my friend yea

sick canyon
#

aw man eye gauntlet is a pain in the ass

void hornet
#

they did yes

sick canyon
#

also pog with aqua fix I can finally go back to rolling for rainbow

void hornet
#

aqua fix 🙀

naive elk
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finally its fixed?

sick canyon
#

aqua fix :D

void hornet
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aqua fix :C

naive elk
#

even with aqua being as good as it was its just annoying

viral solar
#

oh shit

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patch notes anywhere?

sick canyon
#

probably coming out soon

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@rotund orbit do u have the stats for shiny chance btw

west blaze
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doesnt look like they added more beacon options at the start

rotund orbit
sick canyon
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ok so about 1/15 of mythic chance is about right oki

light halo
naive elk
sick canyon
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for mythic chance?

light halo
light halo
blissful sandal
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I liked aqua cuz I could just reroll into orange beacons

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What’s the current strat to get good runs then

chilly wave
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probably just the old strat of rerolling for rainbows or v oranges

naive elk
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orange and rainbow and then grey stack dark grey stack

blissful sandal
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get aqua and reroll into orange and pray for rainbow?

light halo
#

wtf

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your lootrun autofails if you switch to an older serverrip my 14rr rainbow run 💀

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how does the game get shittier with every patch

light halo
#

also its laggy as fuck

quasi furnace
#

nothing

gritty socket
#

My run was bugged and aqua stacked was cleared after i switch to a new wc lol

void hornet
#

that happened before aswell (also happens if you do /class)

gritty socket
#

Idk i never happened before

void hornet
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65 pull 14 rr archangel on 12th roll

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honk shoo mimimi archangel for the 4th time 😴

light halo
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12 pull 1rr grimtrap

chilly wave
naive elk
light halo
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48 10 rr 0m

pulsar vortex
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R.I.P aqua bug ;/ you will be missed

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also no +1 choice for gm :((

light halo
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ive legit gotten orange 2nd 4 times in arow

pulsar vortex
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anyone tried yellow beacons? apparently they got buffed but no clue how true that is

light halo
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65 p 10 rr 0m (hf2)

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at least i got 4 marionettes ❤️

viral solar
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Anyone know the patch notes/changes?

void hornet
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salted probably

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not even sure about that at this point saltroll

pulsar vortex
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they lost the patch notes, looks like they will be deleting wynncraft

chilly wave
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150 pulls 6 rerolls guardian

pulsar vortex
#

yellow still not fixed ;-;

quasi furnace
#

F

chilly wave
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I am gonna get a storage full of guardians before i get a shiny ;-;

quasi furnace
#

Atleast your getting mythics ig

chilly wave
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that's true

light halo
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50p 11rr 0m (hf2)

chilly wave
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@light halo are you playing on the new hotfix? if so is it just as difficult as it was before the aqua bug to get a godrun going?

chilly wave
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ah okay

light halo
#

and on new hotfix, tactic should just be to go for aqua/orange/rainbow early on if you can and if you dont get any of them spam boons

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(keep like 4/6 aquas to stack onto gray/dgray still)

light halo
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5 pull 0m

viral solar
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arhcangle first pull no rerolls used

light halo
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45 pulls 13 rr used, 1 mythic (immo)

viral solar
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i wish more people added data to this channel, looking at it ngl i agree aqua needed to be pacthed, looking at the numbers poeple were gettong consisatnt insane runs but i also wish they would report when they would fail/just go like 8 before ending

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im guilty of not reporting my 8 runs its semi a hastle but ill start doing it

west blaze
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would be a pain to consider 7 pull runs

light halo
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64 pulls 14 rrs 0 mythics (hf2)

light halo
sick canyon
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162 pulls 9 rolls grimtrap

light halo
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10 p 0m

viral solar
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7 3 reollo nothing wanted to do a lq run but it justdidnt work

timid quail
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💀

light halo
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67p 0 mythics (hf2)

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4p nothing

runic inlet
west blaze
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nooothing

viral solar
#

nothing

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heavy melle archer is alot more fun for lr than i thought it would be

sick canyon
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80 minutes for 44 challenges tho

viral solar
#

is that slow? i was trying to get boons but some camps were slow cause spll dmg boons scale way more than melee boons but honestly otherwise i got pretty lucky on that run, also very curious about new runs, i got this run started right before the shadow patch

west blaze
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ayoo, the god run on hotfix#3 (nothing)

worldly shell
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So what's the new strat

west blaze
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old strat but less restarts

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somehow my monster scaling broke, didnt even do anything notable

worldly shell
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rainbow into orange?

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also it looks like they buffed boons

west blaze
worldly shell
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i see, otherwise as many choices as you can with oranges right

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or is there a sweespot

west blaze
worldly shell
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after new hotfix, no rolls needed

rotund orbit
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i sure hope the new hotfix didnt tweak mythic rates

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that would rly suck for the accuracy of all this

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btw im done making a neater spreadsheet for all the data, now i just gota transfer over 300 submissions by hand skull

runic inlet
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Ctrl c ctrl v

rotund orbit
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true true i forgot that excel is actualy kinda smart with its copy pasting

runic inlet
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You could have also added a new list in the same xlsx and just add references to old data

rotund orbit
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yeaah im not the brightest when it comes to excel

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it took me 2 days to figure out 2 dumb functions

runic inlet
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It do be like that

rotund orbit
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but we are all set so its fine now like

rotund orbit
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everything else i kinda gota sort since i made 3 different lists for <75 pulls <200 pulls and >200 pulls

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well its still doable just less convenient

runic inlet
rotund orbit
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there is alredy going to be overall stats that sums all other stuff together

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like this

runic inlet
#

<75 pulls one is going to be like triple the mythic chance than the rest with its sample size haha

rotund orbit
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(also you should rly ping me when replying to me or else il never read t cuz it was at 5 am)

rotund orbit
west blaze
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nothin

rotund orbit
#

so it might be thhe most accurate

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but i can change it to <100 perhaps

runic inlet
rotund orbit
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yeah that was pretty much the strat

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if you dont get aqua aqua orange just quit and wait

runic inlet
#

Not enough for a reward chest saltroll

worldly shell
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do you pick orange on 1

rotund orbit
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now that aqua has been fixed probablyh yes

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ok now that i look at it

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having >200 section is just giving spegg his own personal section saltroll

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i think il change the <200 to <150 and the >200 to >150

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should be more reasonable that way

sick canyon
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teehee

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am I rly the only one doing 200+ runs tho 💀

frail sinew
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I do only super deep runs too

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but only because im chasing shiny epoch hard

rotund orbit
sick canyon
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oh ok

#

I have another one coming up 91/100

timid quail
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i do long run if god wants me to do

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and get 10 le

rotund orbit
#

better than no le

chilly wave
#

Btw have they changed aqua so that you can go : aqua aqua reroll aqua aqua again?

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Or is that still not possible anymore

sick canyon
#

that was fixed in hotfix 2

chilly wave
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Yeah i didnt know if they “fixed it” or if the bug accidentally changed it. did they mention that it was changed?

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Oh they did mention it in the hotfix mb

worldly shell
#

long runs should guarantee a mtyhic tbh

rotund orbit
#

since they wont show any hotfix patchnotes wej ust gota figure it out ourselves

worldly shell
#

but in reality they dont

rotund orbit
worldly shell
#

effort

rotund orbit
#

someone has never lootran before 2.0.3 i see

chilly wave
#

I wish i had my warp build b4 the first hotfix. But wasnt the aqua bug meta still better?

frail sinew
#

aqua bug meta was the easiest it's been to lootrun frl frl

chilly wave
#

Even with the reduced mythic rates the chances of getting godruns was insane

frail sinew
#

yeah almost any run could be a god run or give you 600 pulls in 15 minutes lol

sick canyon
#

211 pull 14 rr
grim on 2nd roll, convergence on 10th

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now I have a boxed conv, an unid, and a rolled one 💀

frail sinew
#

I think Im done lootrunning post aqua fix it spoiled me too much

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it's so jarring having so much fun getting so many good runs, to what we have now

sick canyon
#

shrug

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literally nothing has changed about my strat so we continue like
actually I'm probs going to take a break until next pool

frail sinew
#

I mean it's just more dead runs now

chilly wave
#

I really still want to go for the shiny but I know all i’ll end up with is a 6th guardian💀

frail sinew
#

I can already tell im going stupid dry for a shiny how many runs I've done

sick canyon
#

have fun !

west blaze
#

naaaaaaaaaaaaaathing

timid quail
#

do not question

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grimtrap on first

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(didn't use rr)

west blaze
#

least biased run

timid quail
#

like (count my 2000 effective no mythic)

rotund orbit
#

ok the doc has been updated

frail sinew
#

67 pulls 11 rr nothings

chilly wave
rotund orbit
#

almost 200k total pulls!

chilly wave
#

Stats look bad for >150. But with how much more difficult godruns have become they should be more worth it right. Unless you have ways to keep rerolling to try and get a multiple godruns

rotund orbit
#

yeah long runs are just not worth it for the effort you spend

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10x the time spent for 3x the pulls 🥴

#

sure it shouldnt be a 1:1 ratio

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but atleast 2:1 would be nice 😔

naive elk
#

dark grey is just too good

rough pivot
#

If only yellows were better 🙄 ...

rotund orbit
#

me omw to aqu aqua rainbow aqua aqua yellow just to get 20 random t1 ingridients:

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and 5 emeralds

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10 if im extra lucky today

pulsar vortex
#

still no patch notes? saltroll

rotund orbit
pulsar vortex
#

tyty

void hornet
#

12 pull 3 rr nothing

viral solar
void hornet
#

63 pull 9 rr nothing (took LE)

chilly wave
#

so juicyy

rotund orbit
#

🤤

viral solar
#

nothing

gritty socket
#

no mythic 😭

void hornet
#

total of 80 pulls across many runs with nothing

native edge
#

nothin

chilly wave
#

converence second reroll

frail sinew
#

183 10 rr, grim first pull nothing else the other 9

viral solar
#

nothing

pulsar vortex
viral solar
#

ive been boons still i aqua and if i dont doble aqua i get like red and semi extend till next aqua if i dont aqua stack i use all my rr and hope for orange. sometimes i will also take white juast to keep going or grey and get alot of curses and end early. im not susre what that best to do is tho

rotund orbit
#

medium run supremacy

viral solar
#

marq i need help this patch all my runs r trash

rotund orbit
#

idk ive done a total of 0 runs on this patch

viral solar
#

major eek

rotund orbit
#

been busy all day

viral solar
#

like 4 runs in a row trash

rotund orbit
#

yay over 200k pulls

pulsar vortex
#

89 pulls, 7rr: archangel 5th rr (took it;p)

viral solar
#

nothing

#

i wonder what the stats will looks like at 1 million pulls

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althought it might beharder since god runs willl be harder to get

rough pivot
chilly wave
#

no mythic

rotund orbit
#

bruh whats with all the 141 10 runs

chilly wave
#

uhh just that gruns are difficult to get

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so i play them out a bit more then I usually would

gritty socket
pulsar vortex
#

orange beacons are so sad, if you dont get one within like the first 10 challenges its gg

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i think a person from CT said orange beacons get rarer as a run continues (so its easier to get within the first 10 rather than 20-30 challenge etc)

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which i dont really understand why thats the case, kinda stupid if u ask me

rotund orbit
#

the world may never know

#

well time to finaly try lring after the aqua fix

pulsar vortex
#

we should riot outside of Salted's house (joking) to give gm +1 beacon choice SaltedHigh

chilly wave
pulsar vortex
#

^ fr

rotund orbit
#

so asicaly the same as hotfix 1 except aqua cant appear more than 2 times in a row

#

but atleast grey and dark grey are still unlimited

chilly wave
#

yeah however there is Dgrey

chilly wave
rotund orbit
#

yeah the good ol times of getting yellow blue 4 times in a row

chilly wave
#

fr fr I do take blues for challenge 1/2 but if at 3 i still have not found an V orange or rainbow i roll for it and if i find nothing i reset

pulsar vortex
#

yellow gets fixed hopefully by early 2024 (lmao)

rotund orbit
#

the worst part is that long runs arent even worth the time you invest into them

#

if they were then it would be fine as it is rn

pulsar vortex
#

yeah definietly

#

hmm would you say if you complete 100 challenges you're guaranteed 32le? as like a bonus for taking that long

chilly wave
#

yeah i got 0 LE in my last long run

rotund orbit
#

32 le is too much

pulsar vortex
#

100 challenges take 1.5-2hours tho, you can make more from tna with that much time

rotund orbit
#

but you dont have a chance for mythics from tna

pulsar vortex
#

true

#

maybe even 16le would be fair i guess

rotund orbit
#

just something

pulsar vortex
#

as oppose to currently when you can get 2 le for 2 hour run lol

rotund orbit
#

cuz spending 2-3 hours and worst case you get a bunch of EB is just depressing

pulsar vortex
#

fr

void hornet
#

maybe this means the mythics next week wont lose 80% of their value instantly

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(they will instead only lose 50%)

rotund orbit
#

fr fr

#

maybe il be able to sell my shiny epoch for atleast 1 godly warp worth of LE

gritty socket
#

Imo as a forgery runner Although long runs not worth to spend 1.5~3hr it just better than forgery chest

rotund orbit
#

also where is the guy that was deffending pre nerf mythic rates saying that shinies are the new chase item lol

#

even after the mythic rate nerfs shinies are still somewhat common and droping a lot in price

chilly wave
#

holy shit i love my rng sometimes

rotund orbit
#

dang at what challenge

chilly wave
#

second time this exact scenario happend to me

#

9th with red so i have time for white stack

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but i alrdy had gotten a rainbow so thats why i went a bit deeper then i usually would also i already had +1 orange

elfin bluff
void hornet
#

67 pull 10 rr nothing

gritty socket
#

yep, and lootrunning is way funnier than forgery, choosing beacons and doing challenges always make me excited even it has came out for 2 weeks

void hornet
#

the forgery is cool because its like the only mythic farming thing you can really do with multiple people

gritty socket
#

i wont complain if i didnt get mythic in a long lootrun but forgery i did

#

fr

rotund orbit
#

Forgery is just a group activity and once in a blue moon someone gets a mythic

pulsar vortex
#

i have 155 lootruns complete, road to 1k lol

rotund orbit
#

Imagine if forgery was the ONLY source of mythics

pulsar vortex
#

i'd cry

rotund orbit
#

Even boots would cost multiple stacks

void hornet
#

hmmm actually forgery is not thaaat bad

#

you just wont get 20 mythics a week from it

rotund orbit
#

You'll get a mythic every 20 weeks instead

void hornet
#

every 20 hours maybe

chilly wave
#

140 pulls 2 rerolls guardian

#

im starting to think rerolling on 6 is the most optimal for the most players

#

since you dont get aqua or grey on 6

pulsar vortex
#

what you mean? the 2 runs ive done since the patch i got aqua on 6 both times?

#

i think aqua appears after the 5th challenge

rotund orbit
#

idk but this is fun

#

blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow
and all 3 boons are hot garbage on top of that

chilly wave
#

so its random now?

rotund orbit
#

is it so difficult for them to make lootruns fun and just reduce mythic rates further

#

why do they have to kill the fun in order to "balance" it out

viral solar
light halo
chilly wave
viral solar
#

I c

light halo
#

theyre only locked if you actually get them so if you dont get gray 1-5 it can be 6

chilly wave
#

but either way if you can somehow know when aqua and grey dont appear those are the most ideal times to reroll on

chilly wave
rotund orbit
#

yep it only started cycling at 1 because of the guaranteed aqua bug

chilly wave
#

its so difficult to keep track whats a bug whats meant to be since its all so vaque

viral solar
#

I don’t have the energy but someone else riot for more consistent lr plz aqua mega wasn’t the best but new patch imo feel really annoying. Also wish they would get rid of some of the invis walls in lutho. They feel really annoying now having to walk around for like no reason

light halo
#

basically: if you get gray you cant get it next beacon, if you get aqua and got aqua lst beacon you cant get it last beacon (and apparently: if youre further into your run orange becomes more unlikely)

rotund orbit
light halo
#

i think buffing forgery mythic rate by 5x would solve this

rotund orbit
#

fuck that boring ass content

chilly wave
#

I wonder if you could make Cdungeons more fun if you added powerups like in raids inbetween dungeon stages

viral solar
#

Sadge I like forge I use to speed run it

pulsar vortex
chilly wave
#

but to make it really fun they would have to probably rework dungeons to have random possible stages alongside buffs as in raids

#

which sounds like a lot of work so i doubt they will do it

light halo
chilly wave
#

true yeah actually that is true only missing the buffs xd

#

also it would need to get some kind of exclusive loottable just like lootruns have rn so there is a point to do them. because if its only for a slightly higher mythic chance people will probably still do LR for mythics/shiny's

runic inlet
#

58/3 nothing

chilly wave
#

shit i got an immo on second reroll

rough pivot
#

dry, but at least I've got 26 LE from it

chilly wave
#

immo 2 rerolls nothing after

rough pivot
frail sinew
#

93 pulls 10 rr nothing

runic inlet
#

11/1 nothing
10/2 weath on 2nd roll (1st rr)

rough pivot
#

13/0 dry

chilly wave
#

guardian second reroll

#

what is it with me and getting mythics on second reroll tf

chilly wave
#

my last 4 mythics have been on the second reroll

pulsar vortex
#

lol

#

i’ve noticed that i always get a mythic whenever i have the daily reroll

gritty socket
#

i took le at second rr

gritty socket
#

nomythic

west blaze
#

noting📝

gritty socket
#

was a perfect 65 10 but i ruined it
no mythic

chilly wave
#

badlife are you in a run rn?

gritty socket
#

just start what happened

chilly wave
#

ah nvm then i need to know the price of a grimtrap

gritty socket
#

i can check what type of grimtrap's price u wanna know

chilly wave
#

an unid grimtrap if you could

#

that'd be great thanks

gritty socket
#

lowest

chilly wave
#

hmm thanks ^^

gritty socket
#

ur welcome 😄

chilly wave
#

109 pulls 11 rerolls grimtrap first pull no mythic in the rest

west blaze
#

no things

viral solar
#

How are you guys getting good runs still, what’s the strat?

viral solar
#

I really hope someone knows, can I log off for the night 8+ hour and finish my lootrun when I wake up in the morning

#

I just started a rainbow in first 2 and really don’t feel like finishing this run but I really wanna make it a god run

#

Semi tip appreciated

sick canyon
#

106 pull immo in 4 rolls

viral solar
#

Ty

sick canyon
#

37 pull 2 rr nothing

sick canyon
#

105 pull 2 rr nothing

gritty socket
#

43 pull in 2 runs nothing

runic inlet
#

26/1 nothing (ran out of time with 8 beacon choices while doing green 😭)

rotund orbit
#

aint no way 😭

chilly wave
#

convergence 4th reroll

light halo
#

12p 1rr 0m

naive elk
#

No clue if you guys share all of your runs here, so in general for you guys personally. Whats the pulls / mythics for you (if you count in all runs you didn't share here)

chilly wave
frail sinew
rotund orbit
#

1449 here

light halo
chilly wave
#

guardian 8th reroll

#

my 8th guardian btw^;-;

rotund orbit
#

lucky mf

chilly wave
#

woah well all those guardians are worth like 1.3x of a shiny though

#

i really just wanted 1 shiny epoch

rotund orbit
chilly wave
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i have them all unid in storage rn but how much do you think prices will rize?

rotund orbit
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but still most people are getting immo's and grimtraps so getting guards is nice

chilly wave
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thats true

rotund orbit
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maybe 6

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unless next rotation has guard as well saltroll

chilly wave
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overall ive been really lucky with the mythics i have been getting ive only gotten 3 immos ( 2x i rerolled over them) 2x grimtrap (1x i rerolled over it) 8 guardians 4 convergences and 2 archangels

rotund orbit
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i only got 1 guard

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the rest are grims and immo's (but ofc the shiny epoch makes up for that)

chilly wave
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true did you ID it or do you still have it unid

rotund orbit
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unid

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im hoping the prices go up good after rotation cuz as it is rn i wont even be able to afford a good warp with it

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shiny items being the new chase item my ass

chilly wave
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whats your current warp?

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mine is pretty mediocre but the negative health regen is 100%

rotund orbit
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100% hpr 66% mr and 88% ws

chilly wave
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thats not that bad mine is worse xd

rotund orbit
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yeah but i need 85% + mr for my pandemonium warpanist build

chilly wave
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ahh ic you are going for a pandemonium warp build okay thats interesting

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does pandemonium count towards mana bank?

rotund orbit
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its unironicaly hot (fully boosted picture)

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but you can see whyt i need a good mr roll from the meteor cost and mr

chilly wave
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yeah true

rotund orbit
chilly wave
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i mean worst case you could just run 2 subwands for mana steal and a hpregen wand from the orange weabel

rotund orbit
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nah the health regen is fine

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2 hpr tomes and you are set

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shit i dont have hpr tomes..

chilly wave
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hmm do you use tomes to split the difference?

rotund orbit
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damn il have to do tcc

chilly wave
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i have -29 hpr with warp but when i try to add 29 or less hpr with accesories it makes it worse

rotund orbit
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-29 total or -29 actual number

chilly wave
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i meant that every HPR tick i lose 29 health

rotund orbit
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yeah you are calculating it wrong

chilly wave
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oh how should i be adjusting my HPR?

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not that its totally nessicary since -29 every 5 seconds is not awfull

rotund orbit
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the sum of all your hpr items - the warp hpr

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you losing 29 hp means that you either have around -10 hpr or like +60 or 90

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idk the exact math but you get the point

void hornet
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Depends on how good your hpr% is

rotund orbit
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since the %hpr flips positive and increases negative further

void hornet
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You can check in the player info how much hpr raw you have

chilly wave
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my total positive HPR is : 392

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my negative health regen is 420 and negative health regen % is 240

void hornet
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Ok so you have +28

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And then it gets flipped to be negative

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So you should lose 28 raw hpr if you want to get to 0

rotund orbit
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gain 28 raw*

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if he loses 28 then he would be losing even more hpr

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he is alredy in the negative as it is

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you just need the sum of all your hpr items to equal your warp raw hpr

void hornet
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Oh yea I'm silly

void hornet
rotund orbit
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hold up yeah if you have -28 hpr before the warp hpr% then you should be losing more than 29

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should be losing like 90 ish

void hornet
chilly wave
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i dont have tomes active. and i just tried to add 27 positive health regen

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and it made it worse now its -65 hpr

rotund orbit
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are you full health when doing the tests

chilly wave
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yes

rotund orbit
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this is the confusion

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can you screenshot all the items that give raw hpr in your build

void hornet
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The confusion of all time

chilly wave
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sure 1s

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this is when i get -27 health regen every 5 seconds

void hornet
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That sums up to 442

rotund orbit
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math failure moment

void hornet
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Which would make sen because that's more than 420

rotund orbit
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you have to lose 22 hpr not gain 27

chilly wave
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oh lmao that makes sense

rotund orbit
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slap a summa and call it a day like

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nvm even a perfect summa cant lose 22 hpr

chilly wave
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i'd have to craft a few bracelets to get the perfect outcome

void hornet
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It should be fine if you have like -2

rotund orbit
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nvm its price gotr inflated to the moon

void hornet
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I might have one with a bit worse hpr but I ain't home rn

chilly wave
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yeah i bought it when it was still relatively cheap but since warp got spammed in the market some of the pieces that go well alongside it have gone up

rotund orbit
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(you can wear 2 photons right?)

void hornet
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Doesn't use skidbladnir 😴

rotund orbit
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skidbladnir is ass

void hornet
rotund orbit
rotund orbit
void hornet
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Me if I was home fr

timid quail
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only got a grim in this rotation 💀

rotund orbit
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grr

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skidbladnir dies from stat point defficiency

void hornet
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Wasteland Azalea also gives none....

rotund orbit
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but i dont need conduit of spirit with wasteland...

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libra stat points stonks

void hornet
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Simply use uhhhhh steamstones 😼 (leggings)

rotund orbit
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darkshroud........

void hornet
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You will have -50 sp

rotund orbit
void hornet
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No it's horrible

rotund orbit
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fully boosted goes hard

rotund orbit
void hornet
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You know what actually goes hard

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Fatal arcanist like

rotund orbit
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nah that goes medium at best

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i love fatal but it just cant compete with warp

void hornet
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Oh but it so can...