Revert or change the new nametag and Lootrun GUI

[somber wind]

with all due respect, what the hell are the new designs? this looks like something ripped straight out of MCC or other disgustingly colorful server like a random p2w smp. just have a moment to compare this to the ability tree GUI - it's a very nice looking stone tablet compared to whatever atrocity is the new lootrun GUI and nametags.

IMHO the nametags should be reverted completely to their original state (silverbull sub tag included, that one is hella unnecessary ngl) while the lootrun menu could use a revamp. seriously, i would rather have the vanilla GUI instead of this.

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/old-chat-option-for-the-love-of-god-please.310012/

[candid tendon]

just play wynntils to solve nametag issues

[somber wind]

i do already but they're bleh

[candid tendon]

whats bleh

[somber wind]

the designs

[junior ermine]

Imma close the other thread

[candid tendon]

yeah ig the camp menus are weird looking

out of place ig would describe it

[final depot]

make the lr gui more like the ability tree

[split sequoia]

true

[candid tendon]

and here we have our new wynncraft character:

to fit with the cartoonish camp menus

[somber wind]

SO TRUE

[split sequoia]

lol

[burnt kindle]

chat is whatever imo (it looks bad yea but whatever), but yeah the lr gui needs changing
i also kinda dont like the content book in how unorganized it is but thats the wrong place to talk about it

[teal canopy]

i think the new nametags aren't that bad, just the font for the ranks is ugly and too shiny
the lootrun ui though, all of it, is atrocious and unforgivable and clashes with the entire rest of the game

[split sequoia]

the problem is the bright coloured them (orange, yellow...) if they chose dark colours it would have been so much better.

[burnt kindle]

and even then it would still look too modern
everything in wynn has medival vibes
except for this one gui

[split sequoia]

• cartoonish style made it so much worse

[final depot]

it looks like some app i can idle mine on

[somber wind]

bitcoin miner app

[nocturne jasper]

mcc ass gui

👎

[trail oriole]

i agree it look like shitty p2w server chat but it is wynncrab

[clear solstice]

If I’m not wrong a CT mentioned that Fey made the new GUI textures

Could be wrong though

@quick hull Thoughts?

Or like any comments about the new bright GUI because I’m kinda curious too

[quick hull]

All the textures are consistent across the board since they're related to the Silverbull Syndicate which has its main colors as yellow and blue. Pretty much everything for them matches the characters, the chests, the GUIs, the build and their logo. The illusion of having "too much" color in Wynn is pretty silly and just having everything be some variant of beige, brown and gray is not interesting at all. Wynn has always been more so a cartoonish medieval game as opposed to strictly medieval so we wanna introduce more colors into the game because it has been very much mundane up until this point.

The chat tags have always been something that is colorful and rightfully so because most of them are paid for and deserve to drive some attention to them. Just give it some time cause I’m sure a lot of people are just too used to the original tags which are much worse compared to the new ones. This was also changed so we can conserve some space in the chat and as we introduced more things like gamemodes and professions it became way too cluttered.

[blissful gyro]

me on my way to complain about a visual change i will get used to and forget in 3 weeks amd wonder why i ever liked the original design

[gray pendant]

im gonna be honest these give a huge fucking origin realms vibe and im not sure if it fits wynn at all

you could probably have blue and yellow(gold?? for the borders and have the middle as that stone tablet kinda texture
also like why is the rank tags so detailed and the level/class/guild tags so pixelated
gives me a sorta mixels vibe and i dont really like that

[quick hull]

Because we wanted to make the ranks have styled text since they are ranks afterall, we also had to make sure that the level/guild tags were a simple font we can manipulate dynamically which is why we went with five font.

[shrewd star]

I like the level and guild design but the rank icon does not look good

[quick hull]

The mixel argument is fine tbh I definitely get it lol but we had to make some compromise here

[gray pendant]

yea uh I'm more of a consistency fan so idrk
the gui part still looks kinda off though
really doesn't feel like something you'd see in wynn after the introduction of atree gui (largely gray
having saturated and vibrant colors occupying basically all of the gui is honestly pretty weird lookin especially given how we are already used to aforementioned guis

[burnt kindle]

WAIT WAIT
WHERE ARE THE GUILD STARS

[junior ermine]

dead

[burnt kindle]

please tell me that was just overlooked

[craggy storm]

in my opinion the fact that the new guis are consistent with eachother doesnt change the fact that they do not really fit in well with the other gui themes. If you look at the ability tree gui, which is also relatively new, it was a good addition that looks really good and still fits in with the wider wynn theme. The new "lootrunning guis" dont fit in and look more at home in mcci. I understand that you guys probably took a lot of time creating these guis but discrediting player feedback with "im sure youll get used to it" is not very cool

[quick hull]

That was only for the chat in context to the OP which just says "revert them back to the way it used to be" which doesn't help at all. I could tweak palettes more to make them fit in but we want them to stand out to some extent and again I'm not discrediting anybody's feedback, if I did that I wouldn't have responded at all.

[craggy storm]

i personally think the font for the chat tags is a bit hard to read

[nocturne jasper]

all rank tags are just the same color on the same color background its horrible to read

• no guild stars

[quick hull]

yeah the colors will probably change slightly

[burnt kindle]

that is the worst

lets start a riot

[scarlet timber]

too long didnt read its ugly

[teal canopy]

i don't agree that the gui looks similar to the currently established silverbull aesthetic. the icon has glowing cyan runes on stone, with gold features and turquoise ribbon. the wynncraft store silverbull section has squares of stone to display the information on the page. still pretty medieval-y. the gui, on the other hand, is not consistent with this imagery, it just superficially shares two of the colours, the gold (well, orange) and the turquoise, and none of the rest. if i was told it was silverbull themed without seeing it, i would imagine the stone and the runes and the gold features and the ribbons.

i also disagree with the idea that having predominantly beige, brown and grey cannot be interesting. your guys' work on the character info, ability tree and mastery tome gui is proof of that - it is interesting not because of the main colours but because of the shape, the imagery, how it's presented and the little details. this gui i feel is way too bold and salient and simplistic; it lacks the charm and uniqueness that the rest of the custom gui's have, instead seeming to go for big and attention-grabbing and blunt.

i also don't think the argument that wynn being supposedly a cartoonish medieval game factors well either. everything else in the game, from the resource pack to the npc skins to to the guis to the logo is drawn in a more or less medieval style. reinventing what wynncraft looks like when the current style is already so ingrained just seems like it would cause whiplash.

in terms of the chat tags, though, i think they look pretty good - my only real gripe is that for some ranks, the text seems to have too much saturation or contrast or something, just looks wrong.

[dense linden]

this guy speaks well

[last canopy]

this person speaks the truth!

[burnt kindle]

Amazing
One thing i want to add to that tho:
Give me guild stars back

I didnt spend months helping to grind 100 just for it to be meaningless

[spare tusk]

You would expect medieval style to be a bit weathered/more textured, not perfectly clean and polished like a more modern style.

Medieval not being colourful is actually BS, they mastered the art of drip way earlier than most people think.

[clear solstice]

I don’t really have too strong of an opinion on the more modern-styled GUIs so far but I will say that it is a sharp contrast to the otherwise paper, wood, fabric and stone-ish GUIs that we usually see for Wynncraft

[tiny marten]

would look into this
nothing that I can really add on

[random charm]

Combat level should only be displayed by default, while total level and individual profession levels should be options. The only people that would care about the latter are profers who inherently sink tons of time into the game. So they will know how to navigate the display options. Whereas most casuals aren’t going to bother with professions, so it doesn’t matter as much if they know how to change the display options.

[potent path]

ok i agree with triflame the new tags are sus

[neon valley]

I agree with all the feedback given in this thread, but one thing I want to add - apparently Veteran is just a badge now, rather than displaying as a separate rank. That seems like a downgrade.

[fast acorn]

agreed

[fast acorn]

agreed aswell

[clear solstice]

I’m not saying fully go for the really patchwork adventurer-looking piece of paper or stone menu like the ability tree or tome slots, but I would really like it to be similar in style to like

Maybe Cinfras architecture? A bunch of quartz, polished wood

That sort of thing

Current one looks like it comes from a 21st century gameshow or something

I don’t mind it existing as such but I just feel like the aesthetic could be way better

[wheat helm]

im ngl the new colours are great but the new chat system sucks

also the lr menu is kinda a tiny bit too shiny and colourful

i think a background of like a scroll or something since youre being given an assignment or whatever

[tropic bluff]

^

idk it doesnt have to be the same as hte other uis

[neon valley]

no it doesn't have to be the same as other UIs, but it should fit the theme of wynncraft

[tropic bluff]

ya

[neon valley]

rn it feels a futuristic arcade

[glacial merlin]

mcci more like

[clear solstice]

Which new chat system

[gray pendant]

rank icons
probably

[gray pendant]

whar

[somber wind]

bump/og

[red grove]

the new chat looks so fucked

i hope wynntils reworks the new quest book to the old one (that is like 40 times better) as well as fixes chat (i doubt wynncraft will do it)

[candid tendon]

is chat broken?

[junior ermine]

Wdym?

[red grove]

it just looks like dogshit

[candid tendon]

just play wynntils

easy solution

[red grove]

does wynntils fix it? what a relief

[candid tendon]

wynntils is 1.12 and the new chat is only on 1.17+

yet another advantage 1.12.2 has over new versions

[red grove]

ahh yea gotta love playing 1.12 and getting disconnected every 2 seconds when i use /Switch or join a raid

[candid tendon]

man i remember when that was happening, was painful

[red grove]

(it still happens)

[candid tendon]

not as much at least ig

would be great if it actually worked tho ong

[tropic bluff]

i use 1.12 and that hasnt happened to me in weeks

[somber wind]

rise

[red grove]

petition to have these dogshit chat messages reverted

[wheat helm]

I think this is the suggestion thread with the most support currently

[somber wind]

GOOD

[junior ermine]

I'm fine with the new chat tags honestly, though i do hope they change the vet tags and stuff around a bit

[somber wind]

shhhhh

you're our poster boy for the suggestion screenshots

[simple gale]

please pull a chemtech drake. does not fit wynn at all

[warped sedge]

imo the problem with the new uis isn't the colour, it's that the ui has basically no texture to it and is coloured

makes it look plasticy

[red grove]

No, the issue is that it looks like dogshit

[warped sedge]

same thing, it has the same minimalist solid color look that minigame servers and plastic texturepacks love, but the style doesnt fit in wynncraft

[red grove]

no, i wouldn't want it redesigned with other colors either? i just want the old good looking chat back
it was just a change for the worse, why even try to improve something perfect anyway
the most fixes the chat needs is that champions can't pretend to be hero anymore, but rather have a champ rank in purple and so on

[warped sedge]

i'm talking about the lootrun ui etc, not the chat

[red grove]

ahh, yea, just make that the normal inventory as we always had it

though i don't rlly give a shit bout it mb didn't think you were talking about that

[burnt kindle]

im ok with the chat

only thing i dont like is that guild stars are gone

[somber wind]

@junior ermine ty

[round mural]

I feel like Wynncraft's development philosophy has been for years: "Let's add things people asked for BUT ALSO add things they didn't want, sometimes even things that people hate, but let's not change them because we already invested time and resources into it so we don't want it to be a waste." Wynncraft team always had a huge issue with communication and it improved somewhat over the years, but it's still not great.

I feel like Wynn's developers "listen" to the community but decide they don't need to change things they don't agree with. I don't feel like I'm being listened to.

It seems like people don't want these changes. Maybe make a poll?

[neon valley]

this post is basically already a poll -- and 100% approval

75 to 0

[round mural]

I'd say more like a 99% approval

also i'd poll all of wynn's audiance

[neon valley]

yeah that could be good

[round mural]

well, not all, because that wouldn't happen

but like a large chunk that would be able to see the polls

ideally it should be done publically in like #🍺general

[neon valley]

forums would work too

[round mural]

so most people are able to see it

both places would work.

[junior ermine]

i believe the gui is likely going to be changed

the chat tags probably aren't but more people are fine with those

[candid tendon]

is 1.12.2 chat changing?

i know it doesnt have tags but it might still change anyway

[clear solstice]

Knowing Wynncraft I somehow highly doubt it

While a lot of people seem to dislike the modern-esque GUI I have to sadly admit that it's only a visual feature, and naturally extremely low on the priority list

Unless Fey wants to try a hand at making the Adventurer style other Wynn GUIs have or Salted is willing to get whoever the original artist is that made said Adventuer GUIs to make new versions of these as well

[junior ermine]

wow there are a lot of tags

[red grove]

so many useless ranks

[junior ermine]

huh?

[junior ermine]

most of those are just slightly different admin and ct tags

[red grove]

and GM should be CT

[junior ermine]

I don't see why the different ct and admins having different tags is an issue

[red grove]

its not an issue?

[junior ermine]

why would it be

[red grove]

but they're useless classifications nobody cares about

[junior ermine]

and?

[red grove]

that's all i said

[junior ermine]

the only thing i think is weird are the admin and dev tags, considering they are the same thing basically

[red grove]

that there are many useless rank specifications

[junior ermine]

they tell people what part of the ct you're in

so that somebody doesn't come up to a composer asking how stuff about quests

[red grove]

yep, that sounds realistic

[burnt kindle]

where are the different tags for the guild one

i want something similar to the 3 stars back

[red grove]

guilds have new tags now?

[burnt kindle]

look at it

[red grove]

no

[burnt kindle]

all i want is that the 3 stars are visual in some form or another

currently there is NO difference between 1, 2 and 3 stars

[red grove]

💀 i mean to be fair those stars are like completely valueless but they should definitely keep showing since they were there before

[burnt kindle]

i mean
yea they provide no value
but do you know how goddamn hard we grinded for it
there is a reason only 10 guilds have 3 stars

[red grove]

what level is 3 star

100?

[burnt kindle]

yea

[clear solstice]

I mean, those tags did exist before this update

Why change it

[red grove]

i never said anything about changing it lil bro
the only thing i want changed is the chat looking as it does in higher versions

[distant musk]

The world if that actually worked in reality:

[tropic bluff]

u should tell that to the amount of ppl asking if im a mod

[red grove]

So the titles even when existing are useless, clearly

[distant musk]

Ok but it is funny to just be called an item or a build

[clear solstice]

I’m sorry that you had to suffer through that painful ordeal

Truly an agony

.

Are you a Dev

[candid tendon]

gonna be real i was surprised they just clump em into "ct" here

when i first joined the community

[red grove]

That's literally what they are tho, no further spec needed

[candid tendon]

but like

you cant tell who is an im for example

[tropic bluff]

yea

[red grove]

except u dont need to

[candid tendon]

im sure the build team members really love getting asked to nerf things

[west tiger]

how did we get all these tags and no vet

if the worry is that the vet tag has to match the rank color, surely they could make a white vet tag and then simply color it with the usual rank color

[neon valley]

yeah, its absolutely ridiculous

[boreal axle]

Your early support of the server is as worth to them as someone playing permahunted.

[west tiger]

Is the argument rightfully so because most of them are paid for and deserve to drive some attention to them not an argument for a vet tag to be there too, since you could easily argue that tag is both paid for a deserves some attention?

[junior ermine]

made some funnies

[red grove]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[simple gale]

this game has some serious managerial issues

[red grove]

"improved"

[junior ermine]

It is greatly improved, you can edit them in the texture pack now

[burnt kindle]

Hey
At least we have guild stars back, thats all i wanted

[neon valley]

wait really?

[tropic bluff]

LOL

i gotta get on this

[warped sedge]

tbh after actually seeing the chat rework in-game, the tags are so hard to read at in-game scales

and [color] on [slightly different color] is a nightmare for colorblind people to read

[red grove]

its just so bad

[red grove]

Why is the level of the player and the guild combined anyway as if that had to do anything with each other

[junior ermine]

Does that matter at all?

Before everything was shoved into one thing

level, total level, class, guild, guild level stars,

[red grove]

kinda yea, besides that it still looks like dogshit

[junior ermine]

Me when opinions 🤯

I like the new chat tags

[red grove]

lets check the upvotes of this post again 🤔

[spare tusk]

lets not forget it also includes lootrun UI and that thing sucks

[junior ermine]

This post is mostly about the lootrun ui

[red grove]

clueless

but yea that could get a rework as well ngl, more in the wynn style

[boreal axle]

read this sentence

and see what is mentioned first in the title

[spare tusk]

read this sentence and see what is mentioned first (dumb argument)

[junior ermine]

I have seen many people who like the new chat tags, meanwhile nobody who has stated they like the new gui

I might even make a texture pack that reverts the chat tags to what they used to be

[tropic bluff]

ping me if u do

[burnt kindle]

i dont love them but ialso dont mind them

[simple gale]

salted is a brick wall nothing new

[junior ermine]

anyone have a image/gif of the old champion icon

[simple gale]

its been long enough its time to step down

[tropic bluff]

make it consistent with the new color i think

[junior ermine]

oh i neeed to change hero a bit

and champ probably a bit too actually

[tropic bluff]

there’s gotta be some on forums

[junior ermine]

found it, turns out it's just the same as admin so what i already put owner as

cool

also i couldn't get champion rank animated, and i'm not sure if i can

cause it's not a square texture

so it kinda just looks off

I think that's all ranks done now

unless ct chat colour changed

[simple gale]

our hero

[junior ermine]

it has not, that's all of them

[simple gale]

this game is literally lost when it comes to pr

and feedback

[tropic bluff]

lmfao

[burnt kindle]

We still need to scramble all the changes together from different sources bc there is no unified changelog
And some stuff just diesnt fucking get mentioned
(Lost eye, armour tome nerf)

[tropic bluff]

why would lost eye be mentioned…?

[simple gale]

though preferred, they don't all have to be in one post. just make separate posts and post them in the news/patches section of the forum and make an announcement in the discord

and include everything 😆

[neon valley]

lost eye was a secret thing

deusphage mentioned there was a secret new endgame boss

and then people found it

those kinda secrets can be fun

[junior ermine]

oh did a secrt thing get added

[neon valley]

there's a secret boss in TNA dark room that has a 1/30 chance to spawn replacing the chiropterror

[burnt kindle]

Fair
Was a good secret
Now where is the changelog that mentions armour tome nerf

[tropic bluff]

it’s a secret, clearly

[boreal axle]

The armor tome nerf leads to part of the new ??? Quest

[round mural]

what's lost eye?

[neon valley]

#1124693935466491935 message

[round mural]

i couldn't bother to read few messages later. I am very lazy

[neon valley]

lol all good

[round mural]

wdym new ??? quest

is that a poor joke

[spare tusk]

no, it's a good one

[somber wind]

bump

[gentle forge]

I dont mind the lootrun gui tbh but yeah new rank tags are just eh

Also holy shit discord please add a way to instantly scroll up to the top of threads

[somber wind]

^

great idea/addition would appreciate

[junior ermine]

I pinned the message

[somber wind]

welcome back magicboy

good to see y'all again

[gentle forge]

Ooh, thanks!

[junior ermine]

I made a pack that reverts the chat tags a few weeks ago but I'm away from my pc so i can't share it rn

[somber wind]

how are the tags on 1.12?

[junior ermine]

Idk

Haven't used 1.12 since before 2.0 came out

[somber wind]

damn i'll have to see for myself tomorrow then

if it looks awful as anticipated i'll wait for the pack when you're available

[junior ermine]

It'll take like 2 weeks for me to get back

[somber wind]

and i'll be less active outside of hypixel until the end of the month so it balances out

[tropic bluff]

the game looks normal on 1.12

[neon valley]

well besides the new challenge icons showing up as boxes with plus signs

[tropic bluff]

nope it all works for me

[neon valley]

weird

[tropic bluff]

...i may be using an old version of the server resource pack.

[neon valley]

ah

lol

[tropic bluff]

lol

i should probably learn how to make packs so i can undo things ngl

having the beacons be pickaxes is a little unfortunate

[neon valley]

how tf do you tell beacons apart?
do you just not lootrun

[tropic bluff]

my pc has an updated version, rn i’m out of town on a near decade old macbook that has the outdated pack

i don’t remember if there were squares on my pc

[neon valley]

ah

[junior ermine]

You just find where the thing is in the pack and copy it over

[somber wind]

bump

[somber wind]

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/old-chat-option-for-the-love-of-god-please.310012/

[candid tendon]

hype

trying to get a ss but people arent talking

[burnt kindle]

Talk yourself?

Or just
/Toggle ghosts all and go to lutho

[somber wind]

i heard a theory from someone in dms say that wynncraft is rebranding itself to appeal to an average tiktok audience and the more i think about it, the more sense it makes. the new content book looks like a kindergarten story book and don't even get me started on the ranks and silverbull

reposting my message from forums here because the more i think about it the more it blows my mind

i'd also like to share this

[candid tendon]

doesnt work and i was in lutho it was just dead

[round mural]

i 100% agree. I hate for how long Wynncraft has been on this mindset "you'll get used to it, we're already made it we won't change it". it also doesn't help with behaviour of some staff members old and new.

[somber wind]

one thing i don't get is why people like the simplified look, imo a more detailed visual explanation suits rpgs better than a goofy oval icon that looks like it was pulled straight out of mcc

i like the colors used for usernames of ranked players because it looks more tame now, not the icons and oversimplification

[round mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAG7pye0V1g

the "corporate look"
this weird idea of postmodernism digging its way into everything. everything needs to look simple "inoffensive" free for all consumers

[somber wind]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

wynncraft is becoming oversimplified and corporate and 2.0.3 is the lead example

[somber wind]

i love what tealy did there because it shows how it is in just two images

that message was nearly completely ignored both in suggestion and in forum thread yet it speaks volumes in so little content

[candid tendon]

its cuz nobody understands it

this is wynncraft

[clear solstice]

Jesus Christ Fey what the hell

Did he legit deadass call the old medieval parchment style of gui BORING

[somber wind]

wrong purple sorry

[somber wind]

@clear solstice

[clear solstice]

I probably missed that the first time

Idk how I did

But seriously the two GUIs are like from two different eras

The current ones are weathered stone and parchment while the Lootrunning one is literal flashy plastic and vibrant painted metal

I suppose I can excuse it a little since Silverbull stuff does look a little bit modernistic rather than medieval

[warped sedge]

its just too flat, theres no texture to any of the lootrun ui

[gentle forge]

oh yeah i do hate the new content book too

even ignoring the visual changes everything is just dumped on one page with a mid sorting system and no proper visual clarity to what each thing is, just a shit ton of colors

[warped sedge]

a tabbed book like what wynntils has adopted would have been much better

[gentle forge]

Wynntils quest book is great

[junior ermine]

yeah

[gentle forge]

The new "content book" is literally the most non new player friendly complete mess

Why did they dump literally everything on one page

[junior ermine]

i wish they were sorted instead of just all being on the same page

[gentle forge]

New players wont know how to cycle through the filter tabs

Let alone know what half the text written on it even means

[junior ermine]

i think they should all be in their own places in the quest book instead of all being put onto one large page

[somber wind]

just add an option for oldschool gui and chat 🙏

[gentle forge]

^

Literally just make a seperate page for each major catagory

[somber wind]

like /toggle oldui or something like that which makes chat old and makes content book into the old quest book but with extra sorting for caves (and make oldui command give you a download to a 1.19 pack with old chat cause it's pack based)

[junior ermine]

i can see a few days the content book could be sorted

[gentle forge]

Its not hard to come up with ways to sort it, its how basically every other mmorpg in existence sorts their shit

And then there's wynncraft which took everything and threw it onto a single page then called it a day

[somber wind]

sorting aside can we get an option for old chat though considering the massive fucking support for this suggestion

[gentle forge]

I have literally never seen anything here get implemented into the game

[somber wind]

i already said it elsewhere but the only larger scale response from a ct that happened was this and it was half-assed as shit

[gentle forge]

Wait they paid for those tags?

Saying something looks bad just because it has dull colors is just straight up wrong

This already has infinitely much more visual clarity than the current content book

You can instantly tell what is what from a single glance at the icons

[somber wind]

one of the messages isn't even about the chat tags but look at the fucking ratio

what does mister ct do in response to a dislike for the new look? waaaa we actually made it better you just don't get it

[gentle forge]

The current content book is literally just a jumble of bright neon colors where you need to actively memorize it to know which is which

Not giving a shit about player feedback and saying "you'll like it eventually" is speedrunning players getting pissed and leaving the game

[gentle forge]

Man

Its a crackpot theory but with everything happening its insane enough to be true

[somber wind]

the gui is so resemblant of mcc and guess who also likes mcc? tiktok kiddies who worship minecraft youtubers

i am fairly certain wynncraft is repurposing itself in favor of a new generation of players leaving the old behind. i mean, who got to hear about the lootrun changes first? olinus in the livestream salted interview. now he makes tiktoks for wynncraft; this has too many dots connecting with one another

they specifically lowered the effort endgame takes by making mythics easier and cheaper to obtain as well as made the early quests/early game in general more dynamic to keep the tiktok users hooked in

i sound like some crazy hermit living at the edge of the world but jesus fuck this is adding up

[candid tendon]

please

[gentle forge]

Most of my hatred for this spawns from the content book

New chat icons? Ehh i play on 1.12 anyway and it just looks painfully mid anyway

But god the fucking content book

[somber wind]

when are we getting the RED RABBITS AND YELLOW YAKS ranks in wynncraft (gotta keep the mcc references flowing)

[gentle forge]

Man mcc was fun for like

2 times

[somber wind]

as long as technoblade was alive

[gentle forge]

(I did not watch anything related to mcc outside of the technoblade speedrun clip and snipits of pvp)

[somber wind]

technoblade was the only good thing about mcc but now i look at the general image of it and it's just twitter kids who prefer arguing about minecraft youtuber pronouns than studying for their math exam tomorrow

[gentle forge]

Where is this world even going off to

Unless you lived under a rock for the past 70 years one of your favorite franchises 100% got ruined by corporate bullshit

[somber wind]

either way my point is wynn is developing more into a corporate entity than a tight-knit community it once was, the content seems to be disconnecting from the old playerbase in favor of the new and the literal most successful suggestion thread in months hasn't gotten a proper response from the content team besides a half-assed list of excuses why they're doing the right thing and we're wrong

maybe wynn is doing the supercell strategy of favoring profit over community? who knows, i have gym to take care of rn

[junior ermine]

i agree, you can hardly tell what each icon means

the cave icon hardly even looks like a cave

[candid tendon]

that is true

[candid tendon]

this is what i think they are

from looks (see if you can read them lmao)

[junior ermine]

i think the diamonds are secret discoveries

or ultimate discoveries

not sure

[candid tendon]

interesting

[junior ermine]

which is kinda weird to have them tracked in the book tbh

[gentle forge]

I thought the orange things were secret discoveries

[junior ermine]

like they are secrets

[junior ermine]

nah those are caves

really weird looking caves but

[gentle forge]

Looks similar to the old eye thing

I can make a better looking cave icon than that

[candid tendon]

orange sorta looks cavey, cyan idk maybe i just know what quests look like, green looks like a tome, purple is keys and dungeons have keys, swords uh idk combat posts involve fighting which can use swords if you play like assassin and like every other class doesnt use swords

[gentle forge]

Its not even being overconfident, it would be harder to make a worse cave icon than that

[candid tendon]

idk man im sure i can make one

[junior ermine]

there's also boss altars

they are red skulls

i like their icon

[candid tendon]

forgot about those

[gentle forge]

It literally looks like a half eaten bagal

[candid tendon]

yeah seems cool

[junior ermine]

the cave icon is very weird

[gentle forge]

Why doesnt the two sides fully reach the ground

Why does the bottom of the cave entrance close off

[junior ermine]

boss altar icon

[candid tendon]

i think they should replace cave icon with this

[gentle forge]

Why is the cave entrance hole a goddamn circle

[junior ermine]

i agree

[candid tendon]

which looks an awful lot like tol but shh

[junior ermine]

🥐

[candid tendon]

because ovals are what cave entrances are

i can see it zoomed in ngl, hole in hill

[somber wind]

looks like -.-

[gentle forge]

Actually yeah i can see it now that you mention it

[somber wind]

which is actually very fitting for how i feel about the new graphics

[gentle forge]

It looks like a fucking hobbit hole

[candid tendon]

yeah a cave

[junior ermine]

i hope more people start making texture packs

[candid tendon]

lul

[gentle forge]

Its literally a hole in a dirt mound

It doesnt help that literally every single other icon in the content book is 2d while this thing is trying to be 3d

[somber wind]

i hope someone makes a pack or a mod for 1.19 to revert the chat to 1.12 looks

[junior ermine]

if possible

[candid tendon]

yeah would be sick

[somber wind]

if you can have it on 1.12 why not make a mod to disable whatever 1.19 adds

[candid tendon]

im hoping artemis makes something like that

[junior ermine]

i could see a way to slightly revert it but the brackets wouldn't work because of guild names

the chat icons are all just pngs that can be edited to whatever you want

[candid tendon]

diamonds are secret discoveries

cyan is quests as i thought but green is quests in progress

orange is caves, yellow (not pictured) is raids, keys are dungeons, swords are mini quests

blue is lr camps

[somber wind]

okay fr i have to figure out what's making the chat look like shit in 1.19 compared to 1.12

[candid tendon]

brown are indeed boss altars

[gentle forge]

I dont know why they even tried going with the excuse of "we know better"

[candid tendon]

unknown area boss altar interesting

[gentle forge]

In terms of gameplay, sure
Normal players arent exactly good at game balance

And lots of smaller things that only devs know about

[candid tendon]

yikes

this sucks, no class, no total level

[gentle forge]

But literal game textures and icons?
We aren't fuckin blind mate

[somber wind]

no one even asked for a chat revamp they just added it without asking anyone for feedback and say "ermmm actually we did the right thing you just don't know" even if there's 80 FUCKING PEOPLE liking the idea of turning this shit back

[candid tendon]

oh wait it shows class just in a less good imo way

[gentle forge]

We can tell what looks good and bad because we have eyes

It doesnt take much more than that

[junior ermine]

class is there

[gentle forge]

It doesnt take any more than that actually

[candid tendon]

yeah just not as good

didnt see it at first

[gentle forge]

Mind you, its literally 80 people with 0 dislikes

[junior ermine]

actually i wonder what the individual chat icons for that part are...

[somber wind]

the dislikes only came in the forum thread who is basically like "mind your manners young man 👴 "

[gentle forge]

Literally in a ratio of nearly 100 people noone fucking likes the new icons

[somber wind]

reminder of this ratio ^
ct message got 0 reactions

[candid tendon]

i can imagine proffers are annoyed because it doesnt show their like 1407 total level in chat too

[somber wind]

1638 i think

[candid tendon]

huh

[junior ermine]

replace all chat tags with this

ok i am curious what would happen if i did this

[candid tendon]

oh yeah and then gray/tan are cannot be started and finished have green checkmarks

[somber wind]

speaking of gray could you imagine the ct called gray boring like, the ability tree gui????

it looks so fucking cool

[gentle forge]

^

[junior ermine]

the ability tree is so pretty

[somber wind]

atree and tome menu prove you don't need a shitload of colors to make something cool, why not follow through??

[spare tusk]

Even if they want colour just add some fucking texture to the ui it is so flat its disgusting

Anyway this thread will not achieve anything

[somber wind]

it will prove that wynn favors tiktok kids over the opinions of long time players ^^

[neon valley]

orange wybel

also there’s separate icons for quests that give important unlocks and quests that don’t lol

the main problem with the sorting for me is that it’s either everything on one page or each thing

the sorting should instead be done as like a checkbox menu, you instead select what you want it to show

also just realized — the icon for secret discoveries is the same as the one for any other discovery isn’t it?

[candid tendon]

where even is that

[neon valley]

so with show all you don’t know if it’s gonna be a secret discovery which you might not want to see what they’re called or if they’re nearby, or if it’s a world discovery

[candid tendon]

i never bothered to look for it, only done it in li

[neon valley]

wybel island in sky islands

[candid tendon]

oh interesting

mightve seen that the time i went there and killed like 5 dozen wybels

[candid tendon]

nvm green is storyline, no changed icon for in progress

[neon valley]

yeah

[clear solstice]

Wasn't Fey the person who made those textures

Like, the Lootrun and Content Book GUIs

[somber wind]

are people who originally voted against the changes just completely dead now that the thread is out

[junior ermine]

Yes

[final depot]

tbh, I think the chat structure works well, though perhaps some colors can use some tweaking. I'm not the most fond of the new GUIs. It's odd for different GUIs to have completely different styles. I prefer the Tome & Ability Tree GUIs over the new quest book GUI because it's easier on the eyes and better fits with the rest of the game.

[junior ermine]

^

[clear solstice]

I’m fine with the chat stuff tbh

And I’m also fine with both the chat stuff and the new GUI existing

It’s just that the new GUI in particular puts me off a little

And while I’m not completely shouting for its removal I would really, really prefer if all the GUIs keep the same medieval consistency that Wynncraft has always had

No offense to Fey here but that quote about Wynncraft following a goofier medieval fantasy theme or whatever they called it is kinda… not

Like, the Lootrun GUIs are not even close to fantasy they’re straight up just wacky gameshow panels

Unlike others however, I personally think the bright colors are fairly okay, at least for the chest

Bright blue and orange colors like that are pretty fine for the context, it’s a big reward chest after all
Those colors aren’t exactly nonexistent and the actual model presents it as such

I still do want the Lootrun GUIs to look less plastic and metal though, maybe there is some way to make them look slightly more aged?

Oh right and then there’s the content book GUI
I don’t know how to describe the general color palette tbh but I can’t say I’m fond of it

It’s like… “pale”? “Faded”?
Not even in a like an aging or rain-soaked way I mean the colors don’t contrast each other enough

Like, in an almost unnatural or intentional way

Anyways as a summary:

Chat Textures - Pretty nice, I don’t mind existing
Lootrun GUI - Slightly off-put, I don’t mind existing
Content Book GUI - I like neither the palette choice nor the style, I have a tad bit of an issue of this existing as it is

That’s the essay of a feedback done
Hope Fey doesn’t see as toxic-sounding but you really need to consider man

[somber wind]

MY POINT EXACTLY his response felt like a major discredit of every person's opinion and the reaction ratio he received (20 and 30 to 0)

that's why i made the forum thread about an option for old chat rather than asking to revert it like here, but the fact ct doesn't budge even under THIS MUCH backlash shows what their priorities are

(tiktok kiddies)

[clear solstice]

I mean, I don’t exactly hate Fey, I feel like their model making skills are still really good

But (and please please PLEASE don’t take this too much to heart, Fey), their opinions on certain things are a little more… uh

Okay I can’t exactly say they’re bad or anything since everyone can have their own opinions on matters

But like

Actually nevermind this argument has no structure I’ll just leave it as that they might not be the best at interpreting things

I can’t really be rationally mad at an opinion-based statement like “this artstyle looks good and fits Wynncraft” or something but I can look in the direction of like saying that Antikythera’s character seems to be a silly one whose intelligence isn’t the greatest when they are portrayed to be the complete opposite
Speaking of which I can excuse the Charon thing a little since I figured that Fey isn’t really the best at game design, but the GUI stuff is what I presume they’re good at, if the excellent mob models are anything to show

That being said I’m veering off-topic so I’ll get back to the GUI stuff

At the end of the day the GUI textures aren’t like the Charon attacks, they’re purely visual and aren’t gonna kill anyone over their clashing artstyle

So I have less hostility towards it

[somber wind]

i feel like fey was just forced to make some corporate shit instead of going all out like he did on previous guis

[spare tusk]

Fey's argument about medieval being a boring colourless style is simply uneducated

[clear solstice]

What are the previous GUIs they made?

[somber wind]

ability tree and tome menu i'd assume

[clear solstice]

I see
I wasn’t aware Fey made those

[somber wind]

idk who made them tbh i just assume

[clear solstice]

Bruh

[spare tusk]

someone should make a video like "fixing wynncraft lootrun GUI any% RTA"

[somber wind]

i want a mod/pack to revert chat in 1.19

[junior ermine]

Fey makes a lot of the stuff

[clear solstice]

I see

I haven't had a lot of problems with other Wynncraft content so far so I suppose these few things were just outliers

[gentle forge]

Yeah

No idea why it just suddenly jumped to a insane splash of color

Ability tree gui was an extremly clean and nice looking gui even with the darker stone like colors

Kinda feels like a stone tablet which is great

[junior ermine]

I love the ability tree design

[gentle forge]

And now the lootrun gui looks and feels like a gameshow as purple said

[fallow solstice]

would love for content book to be in similar way, currently content book is so bad to look at

I actually dislike opening the content book because it is so horrific

[junior ermine]

I wish the stuff was actually sorted and not just all thrown into one large heap

[gentle forge]

And the content book looks like a disco room

[gentle forge]

^

[fallow solstice]

pretty sure someone has already made this joke but

[gentle forge]

Ive already done a huge rant about how dogshit the content book is yesterday but goddamn

[junior ermine]

i haven't seen that joke yet that is super accurate

[gentle forge]

Same

Content book should look like a standard journal imo

[fallow solstice]

the one redesign someone posted is fitting

[gentle forge]

Or at least the quest section of it

Literally throwing every single piece of content onto a single page and adding a mid sorting system is just a really shitty way of lazily throwing everything on one page, using the old sorting system code and calling it a day

Chat icons: ehh i dont really care and i play on 1.12 anyway
Lootrun gui: looks way too flashy like its ripped straight out of a gameshow or just mcc
Content book: this thing is a lazy throw everything on one page and call it a day thing, for the love of god seperate it into different sections/pages
And the icons for the different content isnt good, people need to be able to tell what icons are for what, the current icons force you to actively memorize the different icons just to tell them apart, again like the guy above pointed out it looks like a candy crush screen

[candid tendon]

chas 1.12.2 player

[trail oriole]

there canbe different lr gui in diff area
the lr gui isn't that bad but the area makes it looks bad, ie lutho, a doomed place with such vibrant gui.

[somber wind]

Moreover, the added color to chat is so fucking minimal that it is barely noticeable, I don't even see my chat when I'm not paying attention to it. You do realise that text pre-2.0.3 still had colors right? Like, you can literally see it in your own screenshots. I guess you can complain about it being to "tik-toky" but it really isn't that off brand for WC. Let me guess, are the un-ID itemboxes "tik-toky" too? This isn't the first time WC has added color to the game.

Ability Tree and Tome menu are good examples of visually-appealing greyscale GUIs, but in what world does that mean that everything has to be grey-scale? Not everything has to be emo grey-scale medieval. Suggesting that sounds like something a 13 y/o trying to fit in with the cool kids would want. Ironically more childish than colors.

this guy's take made me wanna slam my head against a wall

[gentle forge]

with this guys level of understanding of a unified style you can probably turn a action game into a fps in the middle of a mission and he wouldnt even notice nor complain

literally would be like playing battlefield and suddenly genshin characters start jumping around spamming flashy anime moves

[somber wind]

i lowkey hate that i'm the only person arguing in the thread because despite the vote being split either 50/50 or in favor of against the changes the only vocal part is the supporters of the new style

[trail oriole]

current lr gui would fit in nol in my opinion

[burnt kindle]

I get that they want more color but fucking neon is a bit much
But when did they ever listen to us?

[gentle forge]

the main issue at least for me is that it just doesnt fit in with any of the other menus

rol/nol is a contained area which is supposed to be the actual realm of light

[somber wind]

people so casually overlook that wynn is becoming corporate as shit and it worries me because one day i'll watch as wynncraft turns into hypixel with its disconnect from the community

[trail oriole]

content book giving me inventory wipe jump scare

[gentle forge]

but the lootrun gui is used everywhere (well at least just 2 places but they'll probably add more later on)

[junior ermine]

why

[trail oriole]

everytime i close it, the "button" is still there client side

[junior ermine]

well the ability tree has done the same thing for like a year now

0 inventory wipes

[gentle forge]

and it might kinda fit into corkus ig but it just doesnt look right in the middle of se

and again, wynncraft is supposed to be a medival fantasy setting, not a modern gameshow

[somber wind]

"bbbut medieval is gray and boring we need to add more colors 🤓"

[gentle forge]

look at the nice clean gui of the ability tree and then look at the jumbled disco floor of the content book

[trail oriole]

for content book
wynn background is u are a solder from fruma.
fighting corruption in the realm of war.
And u have a vibrant fancy content book

[somber wind]

• amnesia and brainwashing it's so out of place it hurts

wynncraft can be beautiful and colorful without slapping in some eye-jarring gui jfc

[neon valley]

who/where was that?

[somber wind]

the forum thread

[neon valley]

ah

[candid tendon]

@finite badge thoughts

[finite badge]

it really isnt that big of a deal so you might as well just get used to it

[candid tendon]

i mean like

it is a pretty major deal, taking a system that works well and removing features from it while also making it look worse

lootrun gui just looks bad imo but people can have different opinions on what looks good

but like chat literally just has less features

[finite badge]

im pretty sure chat has just as many features if you hover the playernames

[candid tendon]

yeah but im talking about the chat tags

[finite badge]

could be wrong though

[candid tendon]

they are literally just the 1.12.2 version but with less features

[junior ermine]

the only thing it doesn't display is the total level

[finite badge]

it actually gives even more information now

[candid tendon]

i asked if theres a way to distinguish between knight and warrior or hunter and archer or etc. like in 1.12.2 and havent recieved an answer

[junior ermine]

which was never really useful and is just kinda confusing

[candid tendon]

doesnt it do this on 1.12.2 too tho also im talking about chat tags

[finite badge]

as sad as it is to say, class reskins barely matter anymore after 2.0

[candid tendon]

still cool to see what class people are

[finite badge]

true

[candid tendon]

and total level is pretty important to see

cuz then you can look at chat and see if someone is like woah total level 1152 or smth crazy high

[junior ermine]

nope

[finite badge]

hovering still shows the reskin

[junior ermine]

just hover over their name for all the prof info

[finite badge]

you dont need all that info there

[candid tendon]

uhh so yeah how are you supposed to get that at a glance

[finite badge]

it just clutters the chat lol

[candid tendon]

you arent gonna just hover over everyones name

[junior ermine]

why do you need that at a glance

[finite badge]

who tf usually needs that info at a glance

[candid tendon]

^

i do it a bunch

[finite badge]

ok??? what does that do for you though

[junior ermine]

i have seen many new players be like "what do all these numbers in chat mean"

[candid tendon]

it shows you if the person has grinded at profs a bunch

because thats like a cool impressive achievement

[somber wind]

i'll answer to this here instead because that tiger guy is giving me a fucking tumor

yeah people don't dislike posts but they also wouldn't like it that much if they didn't agree

[candid tendon]

i really need a dislike on the forums

or even a funny

[somber wind]

and if you couldn't tell this discord suggestion has a SHITLOAD of likes

[candid tendon]

also ignore the fact that the forum suggestion also has more likes

[somber wind]

barely

because the people who agreed with it didn't come to forums

[candid tendon]

just about as many as the other 2 options combined

[somber wind]

cause wynn forums are dominated by fossils who barely play wynn and aren't aware of their surroundings enough to tell what's bad or good

[candid tendon]

which like for a forum post

[somber wind]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/862771646997856286/1129915525531701278/togif.gif

this message should serve as an example of it

i'll also say that the "get used to it" voters are probably the kind of people to not be able to ask for an extra packet of salt or tell the waiter they got their order wrong

[finite badge]

if this were truly the case i think most of them would agree with your suggestion

usually fossils who dont play wynn anymore do not like to embrace change

[neon valley]

doesn't it still not show vet as an actual rank

or was that changed

also it showing the world PEOPLE ON YOUR WORLD are on is just stupid

old chat showed the world player ghosts were on already

[red grove]

🏳️‍⚧️

[neon valley]

yes spam triflame with trans flags

[somber wind]

the fuck are you waffling about

[neon valley]

[junior ermine]

Whar

[hot sky]

now remember that I made the whole pack with interesting "design decisions"

[boreal axle]

85 upvotes and still completely ignored

/toggle legacychat 🙏

[burnt kindle]

Surely

[coarse nova]

plastic love- mariya takeuchi

[warped sedge]

[clear solstice]

Oh yeah
Both that and the content book are literally the only GUIs I absolutely hate

Please bring back the quest book or improve the content book’s UI dear god

I just realized this was a thread from 2023

My point still stands

[candid tendon]

fr

i honestly dont mind revamped content book too much it has a lot more added now than just quests which is neat but

[finite badge]

i can absolutely agree that the content book looks awful

however i like the lr gui and the chat stuff

[clear solstice]

At least make it more, uh

Like Wynncraft’s style and less of something that looks like it comes from a late 2000’s early 2010’s gameshow

You know

The aged parchment
The rocky ability tree tablet

That sort of thing

[candid tendon]

smth smth but think of the artist who made it

(honestly the only thing i truly hate is the chat tags tho)

[clear solstice]

What about them

I know who made this dude

[candid tendon]

thats one of the arguments ive seen a ct use

(admittedly a long time ago when people were first annoyed about this stuff)

something along the lines of "well people have already made the icons and we don't want their work going to waste"

[clear solstice]

What in the hell

What kind of logic is that

Yeah I get it effort was put into the thing but if there's a good reason to remove it then it's gotta go

Effort should not be used as a comparison to other things like suitability as if you're like, balancing between choosing one of the two or something

[spare tusk]

the insane effort of adding like a 90% transparent layer of texture

[candid tendon]

🤷

id react but like they still havent given us perms back

[magic lynx]

this post did not age well considering that the new uis look more like the lootrun ones than the current scroll style

[round mural]

yeah I am also dissapointed in this

[agile fjord]

^^ The new UIs look too clean for the medieval bloody war torn world that Wynncraft is imo

[round mural]

ye

[clear solstice]

Me when “you’ll get used to it”

Not an outrageously infuriating response at all