2.0.3 Constructive Feedback Megathread

[fathom gale]

not rly, its easy to stagger time for red beacons

[lone leaf]

tbh if it went above 15 there would be like no time pressure or consequence for reds at all

[fathom gale]

oo you cant accidentaly close the end reward chest with escape anymore

thats nice

[unreal robin]

how you can only get 1 white beacon correct? that time runs out eventually

[lone leaf]

your sentence doesnt make sense to me

[unreal robin]

white beacons add challages that allso give time? but you can only get 1 so the rest are reds?

[lone leaf]

oh. yea

[unreal robin]

so do whites need to be extra nerfed for "imo" no reason

[lone leaf]

i mean youd notice if you did some lrs with them but the way it works is that when you take a red the challenges that dont give you time are immediately added after. so if you stack it too hard you can run out (but it requires playing pretty badly lmfao)

aint no way..

[drifting tapir]

I jsut hate when the game is like you already have 15 minutes you want a green beacon or a curse?

and than I am missing the greens later

[unreal robin]

also not sure if a wynntills thing or not but i evetually got so many boons i couldnt see the timer or the challanges anymore so by the end "balancing time vs chalanges" just became a joke because i literally coudlnt read it

[fathom gale]

what you can do in a godly run with rainbow is (assuming you got +50 white) aqua stack red (+8 challenges) do like 5-6 beacons such as blue/yellow/purple do 1 green since you would be about to run out of time then do some beacons untill you hit 10-12 minutes then aqua stack into red again (that will put you at 15 minutes cuz aqua and red will give time initialy) and repeat. thats how i got to 140 challenges the other day

[lone leaf]

wynntils

[lone leaf]

this is what i do as well

[fathom gale]

open your wynntils book > configurations > status overlay and disable

[unreal robin]

no you can skip as many greens are you want im pretty sure, its whne youve actually choses it it "counts" and gets "removed" from future pools

[lone leaf]

that is correct

[unreal robin]

ty for wynttils info

[lone leaf]

you just dont need to do more than 1

[unreal robin]

ic i guess i just get reallly unluvky with my aqua stacking

[fathom gale]

unlucky with your orange beacons*

orange beacons are the key to god runs

[unreal robin]

i feel like i see an orange beacon on average every 6-10 runs maybe the avg is like 8 ish

[fathom gale]

yeah not having orange is not fun

i just did aqua aqua into green and red 3 times in a row 😔

[timber dock]

uhm so grey should be apearing after 10?

is the patch not out yet?

[teal radish]

do you have more than 5 beacon options

[timber dock]

i have 7

also the dark grey should be appearing but i havent seen it after like challenge 15

[short cave]

did you take it?

[timber dock]

and i'm only at challenge 19 right now

[teal radish]

what world are you on

[timber dock]

no i have not taken either dark grey or grey.

[teal radish]

maybe its an old world

[timber dock]

hm ill join a newer world

[short cave]

someone in my guild had all there beacon choices disappear besides the unlimited ones, seems buggy

[teal radish]

what world u on

[timber dock]

idk i had already left to go to lobby to not lose time

hm it fixed itself

could be bcs i was on an old work i suppose yeah

and my reroll is gone again what is happening o_o

[teal radish]

grey can’t appear twice in a row as of this hotfix

kinda pointless but eh

[fathom gale]

🤤

W hotfix

[timber dock]

oh so ill have to time it with aquas

[teal radish]

ye

[short cave]

new update caused some problems

[fathom gale]

aqua aqua rainbow aqua ?

[short cave]

aqua vib aqua rainbow vib aqua vib aqua

[ocean peak]

Do it.

and then get 1000 pulls and zero mythics

[fathom gale]

huh shouldnt that be way more than 80

[teal radish]

no

[short cave]

x + x + 2x + 2x + 2x

[fathom gale]

me when math 💤

[teal radish]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cringe-math-dies-from-math-death-gif-22822700

[ocean forge]

макс а где этот том дропается?

или ты его давно выбил?

[subtle prairie]

@lone leaf new water nodes just dropped

[rare sedge]

Or just making 3 choices by default would greatly help...

Once you unlock tons of new beacons

[half pike]

with shinies can they be any stat or just one?

ive heard people say thats how it works for both

[young ore]

meow meow meow

[vital raft]

how is this constructive feedback

[young ore]

can you sell me

perfect tisauns valour

[vital raft]

no but I can sell you a shiny epoch with war stat track

[young ore]

well i dont want shiny epoch with war stat track epoch is ass

[vital raft]

hater....

[young ore]

provide me a single good epoch build

[vital raft]

7 crafteds and dark shroud

[young ore]

and its still worse than any spell archer

[little olive]

Tstack

[young ore]

i said good

[vital raft]

will do more dps than ignis

[young ore]

you know, probably not

[young ore]

do i get out of gxp gear to make a mob kill farm class,,,,,,,,,

[vital raft]

yes

[young ore]

can you sell me
perfect tisauns valour

[vital raft]

no im lootrunning

[young ore]

opp

[lone leaf]

huge

this is in the scarab pit right

[subtle prairie]

the pit in Desert west upper if thats what you mean

[pallid kestrel]

Grandmother

[teal radish]

I agree

[pallid kestrel]

how are all the CTs not rich at this point bro

they know exactly what prices will rise and fall due to they rework the items

[pseudo path]

giv me

[little olive]

only their alts are

[half pike]

most of em dont do that

[modern pier]

Theres more to this game than being a trade market goblin

[pallid kestrel]

lol i'd assume

[cloud mulch]

there is?

[cloud mulch]

abusing ct role kinda cringe

[modern pier]

As an ironman player, yes there is! 😄

[cunning verge]

I don't think any of us do that

The closest I've done is gather tol runes pre 2.0, but that wasn't to sell, it was so I could pay in full for TNA runs

[pallid kestrel]

If they did it would be impossible to tell also

[lone leaf]

i mean, it depends what you do lol

but yea i have more stuff than ill ever need by this point anyways

[bright sage]

bruh if i was on the ct id abuse the fuck out of that and get rich as hell

[fathom gale]

and get banned the next day

[bright sage]

they wont find out

💯

must be tragic being a ct member so u cant invest in mythics without ppl thinking u abusing ur perms 😔

[half pike]

i heard of some ct doing something like that

forgot who it was

[vale mirage]

Can rainbow only appear once? So if you fail it, you can’t get it again?

[vital raft]

hmmm yes that would make sense

[vale mirage]

I disagree

[scarlet cargo]

Also you can go above 15 by stacking greens or aquas into greens

[severe helm]

did the aqua bug got fixed?

(the one that makes aqua spawn everytime it can)

[hybrid frigate]

Starting a challenge counts as taking it, so failing locks you out
Passing does not count as taking a beacon, so that doesnt lock you out

[fathom gale]

yeah you can get 50 minutes if you want but the next challnge you start will put you back at 15

[scarlet cargo]

Not if you're doing red challenges
unless that was patched this hotfix

[fathom gale]

idk ive never tried to overkill the time on reds

when i go hard on reds i usualy just get a +12 red then at 4-5 minutes i use 1 green and thats it

[scarlet cargo]

I did out of necessity cuz I had 36 red challenges lined up on a corkus lootrun

[covert veldt]

I can confirm the overflow works with red challenges

[trim elbow]

corkus reds:

[bronze prism]

does selling soft sand count

[stable pecan]

Whatever might you be up to with soft sand

[bright sage]

If i was on ct and i knew there was a weathered buff coming and i bought out the entire weathered market and profited 400stx would I get in trouble

Would that call for a ban

If ur on ct genuinely can u even invest in mythics lol

[bronze prism]

yeah you would

[bronze prism]

idk I just saw on market one day that soft sand was crazy expensive

so I started hunting soft sand and selling it for cheap

[teal radish]

how does that count

[bronze prism]

well I'm askin you that

[teal radish]

Doesn’t sound like you used any CT knowledge

[glad ermine]

this would be hot, even if it means you can only get 1 orange per run instead of 2

i think it’s a great idea

[vale mirage]

Ahh, that explains some things

[lone leaf]

yes as long as you arent using knowledge that the public doesnt know

so like after lr rewards dropped on live/beta its perfectly fine for me to spend my entire net on unid warps as an investment for when they go up

but if i did that before the beta came out during testing it would be a big nono

i mean tbh i dont know why i would considering theyre gonna go down but. whatever

[quiet lark]

did you actualyl do that

[lone leaf]

maybe

[quiet lark]

how much did you lose on the warp investment

thats crazy

[lone leaf]

it aint a loss until i sell

[quiet lark]

real

[lone leaf]

also im pretty sure warps are going up from like the end of the first week of rewards when there were like 2 pages on tm no

[teal radish]

price seems to be going up, but so is the supply

there’s still almost 3 pages lmao

[short cave]

I would assume a lot of people saw easy money in cheap unid warps

[pallid kestrel]

It's not like the warp market was certain to climb, there was just as good of a chance for warp prices to continue falling

the hotfix was on tuesday which would give it another 3 days to drop had there not been a hotfix

And many predicted that there wouldn't be a hotfix for a while until Friday due to the chest reset bug that happens when a patch is pushed

It's still a gamble, thankfully myself and some of my friends, and definitely the CT took the right path investing in warp before the patch. But it wouldn't be stratightforward easy money

[neon slate]

SuperJx incident with snails...

[cunning verge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925940086212816916/1119725482150211674/ezgif-4-02e1dea2ec.gif

[void nova]

Good always overcomes evil

[fathom gale]

can the exemplar not do this pls? i aint tryna ice snake him for 5 hours 😭

this is like the 4th time it happens this week

[woeful grail]

Its only 225k hp
Youll be fine
:Copium:

[fathom gale]

it was at half hp when i started

[woeful grail]

Doomsday

[fathom gale]

at some point i started meleeing cuz cycling ice snake feels so awfull

[timber dock]

Oh you can cheese this boss with meteor spam aswell

Makes it a lot faster

Where do you start did it get bugged?

[fathom gale]

obviously.. but not when he is inside a wall and my meteors cant make contact

[timber dock]

Its never happend to me b4

Do you start here @fathom gale ?

Ive never died doing it on top of those orange blocks and its never bugged for me

[fathom gale]

no i start on the orange/grey wall

[timber dock]

You’d probably want to not do it on the orange blocks towards the back but on the ones towards the front of it to make it easier only just noticed that i marked one towards the back

There has been one time where it did manage to get onto the building somehow but thats out of a lot and a lot of attempts for me

[woeful grail]

Simple solution
Just play warrior with its funny aoe

[vital raft]

Hmm actually play shaman
It's like mage but worse

[unreal robin]

MAKE BLUE BEACONS MORE COMMON THAN PURPLES IT SO ANNYOING WASTING REROLLS TO GET FUCKING PURPLRS after 30 challenes without a single blue is fucking crazy to me

[ebon garnet]

Things stop storting by "nearest" in the content book as soon as things go over 1000+ blocks, that could be fixed

[sharp drift]

pls fix the fucking forgery or make the plate on which is saying it is broken, come later mate

[modern pier]

Bro youre so mad about this that you even went your way to Shout it ingame

[unreal robin]

for real

i wanted to know if i was tweaking or not, im 100% convinced there has to be some sort of weighting problem with blues. its rudiculous you can see 18 purples in a row and not a blue, and this was for like 4 runs in a row i got to 30+ challanged without more than 2 blues thats with +2 extra beacons cause i would find oranges.

[modern pier]

Yea some of my runs have died because i couldnt get a boon for over 10 challenges

[unreal robin]

i also feel extremely strongly especially when you only have 2 beacon choices if i reroll the beacons i should not be able to get duplicates of what i wanted to reroll, over 4 different times ive rerolled a purple and yellow into a purple and vibrant yellow, like are you fucking kidding me.

[little olive]

Are you not restarting if you dont get 5+ beacon slots?

[unreal robin]

at what point do you determine that?

i guess im struggling to know when to take blues and what to aqua stack and ope for an ornage, when do you use your rewrolls? i often find myself useing them after aqua stacking early on and praying for an orange or white or something

[little olive]

When i can start next run (10m cooldown)

And then after starting the run aqua -> aqua -> hope for orange (use all rrs)

[timber dock]

This is exactly what you should be doing in this current meta^

If not orange then take rainbow and pray for orange if no orange then restart its dead already

[little olive]

God run is propably vaqau -> vaqau -> vorange -> 2x (v)aqau -> rainbow -> 2x vaqau -> gray -> white/red -> 2x vaqua stack onto dgray

[timber dock]

Yeah that sounds about right

[unreal robin]

is it just "luck" when trying to go for runs like that

[modern pier]

Theres luck in lootrunning yes

[little olive]

The luck is pretty much only in getting orange, also i just realized the run i posted wouldnt even work because gray cannot appear twice in a row (keep that in mind)

[fathom gale]

that run is possible, ive done it once before

aqua(no gray) > aqua(gray) > rainbow(no gray) > aqua(gray) > aqua(no gray) > gray

you just need to start the first aqua on a run that has no gray

[little olive]

Yeah, you just either need 8 beacons max or to get gray on 3rd challenge

[timber dock]

It is a lot less luck in the long run as you so said that you are not getting any boon beacons. Now with rolling for an orange at the beginning and removing the whole “luck factor” makes it a lot less rng depended then other runs

[fathom gale]

this is like the third time it happens today 😭

[little olive]

How even .-.

[fathom gale]

idk he just goes shizo and teleports all over the place

[quiet lark]

you could also just

not play mage and instead a class that can hit through walls

[timber dock]

F, you should try doing it at the spot i use it has a 100% success rate for me even if I’m underpowered af

[fathom gale]

or i could not cuz cringe

[quiet lark]

ong

[fathom gale]

mage > all

[vital raft]

65 pull 10 rr nothin

[quiet lark]

65

[vital raft]

🤨

whats wrong with 65 pulls....

oh guys im in the wrong thread nevermind im a bit silly

[pseudo path]

Where is epoch 7 crafted build

[vital raft]

make one yourself

[pseudo path]

Its low
Send build

[little olive]

Thats actually like optimal because of dark grey, longer runs are su optimal for efficiency

[pseudo path]

with 65 u still getting rare items in chest, which is ew

at least like 80/100

dark gray 50 + 30-40 challenges

[little olive]

You can propably get 2 (if not more) 65p 10rr runs in the time it takes to get one 100p 10rr run

[pseudo path]

also fair yea, but sometimes i prefer do godly run, instead of few averages

[fathom gale]

sure but after doing 200 pull 10 rr and 164 pull 16 rr and not getting mythics and at the same time getting a ton of mythics from 50-70 pull challenges i think il stick with 50-70

[little olive]

Also, with the massive god runs youre often going to waste rolls/pulls after getting a mythic early on

[little olive]

bug: if you have started 4 challenges (in my case completed 3, failed 1) it says you can claim your pulls but you actually cant

[covert veldt]

Depends on how long they take really

[half pike]

isnt is completed 4 not started 4?

or is the bug that it says you can

[little olive]

yes, but the npc still told me i could claim despite only starting 4, not completing

[half pike]

ah

[fallen mauve]

Hmnn, is the bone monstrocity challenge intentionally like a lot more effort to do compared to every other challenge in SE or did this just happen on accident?

5 waves in a custom arena without safe spots, one wave spawning more than 9 mobs with charge spell, another spawning like a dozen mobs with such high default walkspeed that any enemy walkspeed means the only way to avoid them is by flying
and the whole thing finishes with a high health boss that has seemingly true damage tornados as a sidekick? All in one challenge??

[unreal robin]

kinda fr, especially since most things are weak to air if you have an air weapon its like 4x as long because of the elemtentla defences you guys gave it

[quiet lark]

would you rather more forest of eyes

[unreal robin]

yes imo

[quiet lark]

😭😭

[fallen mauve]

forest of eyes is such a complete joke compared to bone monstrocity

[unreal robin]

i play shaman so i dont even cheese the fight by standing on the tree, i really dont like the white dragon guy

[fallen mauve]

it's a bit long winded but it has cheese and wave 4 is actually empty so the time waste is manageable

[unreal robin]

this shouldnt be able to happen in my opnion. it feels awful

[stable pecan]

if it makes you feel a tiny bit better
it should still change the positions of beacons
so if you want to avoid corkus quarry or lantern keeper really badly-

[unreal robin]

it really doesnt i wish if you have only 2 choices it forces diferent colors. it feels so awful seeing this

[alpine forum]

lootruns can still go on to infinity and make abominations like this. Rainbow beacon is busted, if you get one (along with at least 1 grey beacon) your basically guaranteed a mythic (which I did get this run). Without a rainbow beacon your in for a rough time though

I think it would be best if beacons instead gained power based on your lootrun experience rather then high roll into a rainbow

this would also make yellow beacons not worthless

[candid prawn]

Lantern Keeper is fine tbh

Unless you’re not big brain enough to figure out what the horse’s gimmick is

[candid prawn]

What abomination

[alpine forum]

15 million HP tower with damage resistance abomination

[candid prawn]

That’s nothing
I’ve seen 20+ million ones

[alpine forum]

this is post nerf though

[candid prawn]

This might be RNG screwing you over here but have you considered picking Boons

[ocean peak]

Simply knowing the gimmick of the mob isn’t a counter

[candid prawn]

Yeah but knowing the gimmick allows you to counter it

[ocean peak]

You literally cannot avoid killing the horse on shaman

[candid prawn]

Have you considered not doing anything until the horse is dead via fireball

[alpine forum]

oh I was fine I did a million dps but the tower still had a pretty scary health bar for so few curses

[ocean peak]

Have you considered the class has the worst movement in the game

[candid prawn]

Or can you not wait several seconds before the Lantern Keeper casts an arrow storm

[ocean peak]

.

[candid prawn]

Worst Movement doesn't mean it's immobile

You could be wearing Statue and still outrun the horse's first phase

[ocean peak]

But it does mean that trying to wait for the keeper to kill the horse with curses and haul is not possible

[candid prawn]

No offense but the Lantern Keeper might actually be the only mob I have noticed in latechallenge lootruns that doesn't actually do that much damage even at face-value

You're not going to die unless you're like two meters from the damn thing

[ocean peak]

Where did I ever imply the lantern keeper was a threat

[candid prawn]

Then what the hell else is

[alpine forum]

the lantern keeper is a wimp its the insurmountable thats annoying

[candid prawn]

The horse moves like 2 meters an hour unless you attack it

[ocean peak]

Uh huh

[candid prawn]

Are you telling me you can't outrun that

[ocean peak]

It’s always fun when non shaman players think they know the class

[alpine forum]

half of the games classes have to hit the horse though

[candid prawn]

Is friendly-firing the horse a looked-down upon tactic here

Wait for the horse to be killed by the Lantern Keeper and then attack

[ocean peak]

Did you not read a single one of my messages

[alpine forum]

at that point your better off just cheesing the fight, which is pretty easy fortently

[candid prawn]

I felt like that tactic counts as cheesing

Idk if it's an actual intended feature or not

[candid prawn]

I feel like I'm missing something here

Explain it to my 1 brain cell please

Is there anything else in that room asides from the Keeper and the Horse that is a threat

[candid prawn]

Anyways sorry I got sidetracked

Yeah honestly enemy scaling even to monstrous amounts is kinda fine if the player’s scaling also goes up to a reasonable level

[edgy kernel]

there should be more lootruns, like the sky islands

[unreal robin]

no where even close to guaranteed but ok. people have been adding insane amount of data into #1130744061200961536

[unreal robin]

wait what?!?!

[alpine forum]

the poison from the blessings in the canyon colossus raid were not buffed unlike the poison items in the 2.0.3 update for wynncraft the minecraft mmo RPG. The people NEED to know this, the raid is UNPLAYABLE now.

[candid prawn]

People use poison in TNA?

No offense but unless the poison is like 500k or something nobody actively picks the singular poison stat intending to use it for TCC

[pallid kestrel]

that is besides the point, it needs the numbers increased

[trim elbow]

I had a 40 mil one once

[sleek valley]

i get where youre coming from but i feel itd be too strong if you could force a different combo of beacons. even now im not a huge fan of how orange works when stacked enough, cause it makes the rare beacons pretty much guaranteed

[sleek valley]

to be clear- thats my personal feelings on the issue, not a ct response

[sleek valley]

ill get this sorted

[glad ermine]

yea i dont think that idea is great, for instance if a reroll forced different colors, what would happen if you had like 8 beacon choices?? you'd get no beacons lol.. unless you implement it so that it changes colors only when theres 2 beacon options. either way i think that idea is bad. its fine as it is

sorry replied to wrong person lol

[rare sedge]

I pick pest for strength boosts if there's not anything else that's good ig...

[pallid kestrel]

Mythics are more common than they’ve ever been and people still complaining about pulls dry and bad rng beacon 💀

[covert veldt]

People tryna get mythics like it's day 1 lol

They are going to try to stay far away from those rates

And with good reason : A mythic every other hour or so is a little much

[lone leaf]

u can still get mythics incredibly quickly ngl

[unreal robin]

Honestly after lr for 2 days straight I really agree. The system is very very fun I just imagine it would take some much time to properly code like the “weight” of when beacons should show up. I’ve been trying to think about it a lot but I can’t think of anything smart that wouldn’t be extremely broke. It’s just like fundamentally I want god runs every time but I know that’s not good for the game

[lone leaf]

i mean who doesn’t want god runs all the time tbh

[unreal robin]

Agree, it use to take me like 2ish weeks of lr before finding mythics, I’ve found like 5 in 4 days, although in lr all day so semi different take it with some salt

[pseudo path]

after 14 orange pick

[lone leaf]

gg

[woeful grail]

What hp are the mobs at now?

[bronze prism]

a standard mob would have at least 2.2m health by that point

[woeful grail]

Way more
I had 4 million hp mobs yesterday at 40 challanges

[fathom gale]

Best part is when there are other people inside it in the same world before you so you have to do wave 4 with a bunch of extra tornados scattered

Or even worse some times the tornados from other players are invisible but still hit you

[cunning verge]

i will check to see if it teleported into a hole

and if so i will seal that hole

oh.

lol. it teleported into the Caged Creatures cave.

[fathom gale]

That would be very epic

[cunning verge]

let me actually trigger than challenge and see if i can access where it teleported to

you can make it there with difficulty

[vast cairn]

Had one at like 34m hp at challenge 130ish, it was fun

[fathom gale]

I think the main issue is that of you aren't able to burst down the keeper fast after horse dies the horse respawns and you go bye bye (unless haha funny exit cheese spot)

As long as you got ranged attacks you don't even need to worry about the horse

[trim elbow]

or if you’re bmonk the horse can’t hit u

[vast cairn]

Just cheese it 🙂

The teleport spam is obnoxious

[covert veldt]

The horse just gets caught in my crossfire, unless I'm mega cursed it isn't much of a threat to me

[little olive]

I just arrow shield and try to snipebthe lantern guy

[young ore]

The horse is here

[pseudo path]

same

its just keep spaming until i rr run

[woeful grail]

:(
i was hoping for funny hp

[unreal robin]

Not sure how other people feel but I think a slight increase chance for emeralds in the lootrun chests would be nice. It feels lightly bad doing like 2 hour lootruns for like 6-11 le. I’m not sure how I would fix it

[ebon garnet]

please fix "sort by distance" it doesn't work half the time

it tells you that a thing that's the closest to you is like 600 blocks away meanwhile other stuff is like 200 from the same category

[thorny glacier]

that does not make sense

[modern pier]

Old lootruns didnt really give half a stack per run either

[thorny glacier]

more like 20 eb

[modern pier]

Yea the real emeralds came from selling items which guess what... is also in the new lootruns! 😮

[thorny glacier]

its just long lootruns shouldnt automatically give a result, same for short ones. its just a different set of rewards. long runs having a much higher chance to pull something good, opposed to short runs. but effectively all that matters is the pull/min

[modern pier]

Yea going on a long run is only good if you have good amount of rerolls

Short runs can be effective too

[unreal robin]

i do agree old lootruns didnt give as much emeralds so in theory i think you still making more emeralds per hour on avg if you are doing god runs but you dont get god runs every time and im guessing they wull patch aqua soon potenially making god runs even harder.

[vital raft]

they are incredibly easy to get right now so making them harder to get is good

[unreal robin]

semi, i find the aqua also semi mess up potenial "semi good" runs. its either you aqua stack ornage good or pray you get boons to spawn for you, iswear if you dont take any blues by chalange 5 and you still only have 2 beacon options blues become really really hard to find for some reason, atleast in my experience

[vital raft]

most meta runner reset if they dont get orange in first 3

and if you do get orange it basically gurantees a good run

[unreal robin]

agree but now youre only doing like 1 out of every 8 runs or something like that

[vital raft]

wayyy more than 1 out of 8 with 2 rrs on 3rd beacon choice

[unreal robin]

ig i just have really bad luck

[modern pier]

If 1000 people lootran before 2.0.3, there would be literally 0 godruns at that time

[unreal robin]

im not sure the point your trying to make? yes lootrruning is alot more popular since they just updated it? if it was this popular back then i agree it would be even worse with the old system? but thats not what would happen cuase less people would lr if it was trash. your thoughts dont seem very thought out sometimes it confuses me

[young ore]

Is there a tldr :&

[unreal robin]

for rn tldr i wish there were more chances for le in end rewards scaling a bit better for 2 or 3 hour runs

[young ore]

Oh

I mean there is a better chance of le on a run with more pulls per minute than one with less

[unreal robin]

i was saying 6-11 le for 2 hours feels semi bad, having like 1 more "slot" be able to roll le would be nice, but maybe cope from me

i also know thats not how the system works i just say it like that to word it easier

[thorny glacier]

cope imo

[vital raft]

if you want just raw LE then on runs with 10rr 60-70 pulls there is usually one roll with like 20-30 le

[young ore]

Mmm it’s all maths in the end there’s be a correct way to run for what you want

[unreal robin]

i say this with the thought "god runs" in the future should be more rare when they fix aquas

[thorny glacier]

that still has nothing to do with it

[young ore]

Mimimimi zzzsnow

[modern pier]

Point is there is a lot more emeralds in rotation in the game now compared to old lootruns, even though lesser people lootran back then. Also how can you say you dont know what point Im making and then next thing you say is that my "thoughts dont seem very thought out"?

[little olive]

ct guys can you post changelog for the hoitfix push?

[unreal robin]

lmao im saying i dont see your point because the logic behind your reasoning doesnt seem very thought out...

[subtle prairie]

if you want raw LE do TNA 🤯

[modern pier]

Where in my reasoning am I wrong?

[unreal robin]

youre comparing the mass amount of players lr rn cause there is an update to the old system... it doesnt make sense because the old system couldnt support the amount of players lr rn cause all the "world loot" would be trash thus players wouldnt lootrun. but i have to spell out the entire train of logic for you cause "you cant think beyond the surface of your analogy"

[thorny glacier]

tna is legit better for money and mythics xd

[modern pier]

My point was that getting 6-11LE just by picking up emeralds in chests would take longer before 2.0.3 EVEN IF you ran on an old unlooted world. Your inital complaint was that you dont get enough LE from lootruns when getting LE from lootruns never was a thing before 2.0.3 unless you sold items on trademarket

[unreal robin]

agree tna "optimally" can make so much more money, i think avg raid time for people who are good in like 10-15 min. thats like 20-40 le an hour, compaired to 6-12 le for a 2 hour lr.

[trim elbow]

tna is only better for money bc of mythic deflation lmao

[unreal robin]

agree with this, it would take like an hour to get an le for the old system

[modern pier]

Ye, so why complain on the current one?

[unreal robin]

i just wish to cope a bit about wanting more emeralds compaired to the other end game like tna raid or tcc sellling ing but also rip crafted so rip tcc (im really bad at spelling)

[modern pier]

I mean I agree that lootrunning just for pure LE isnt exactly worth the time

But you get items, mythics, runes, and keys

[thorny glacier]

cool tree not blocking the bridge at all

[alpine forum]

keys

[unreal robin]

i think it would a better "consolation" prize for people who do 2 hour lr and use all their rerolls on mythics, i get its not the main point of lr but it would be nice ti be compisated justa little more but also rip ecocnamy so idk

[modern pier]

Yea no one lootruns for keys but im pretty sure you get more keys from lootruns than bringing your ass out to the wild finding those key guardians

[thorny glacier]

nah

[little olive]

that takes 3-5 tna

[modern pier]

Yep

[little olive]

arent half the corrupted dungeons bugged rn?

[thorny glacier]

more like 2-4

[vital raft]

one, CUC

[thorny glacier]

at least profit wise, not money generating wise

[modern pier]

Only CUC from what I heard but the keys will still have usage when thats fixed

[little olive]

guys are you aware that your new hotfix shadowaptch is laggy as fuck?

[teal radish]

ugh yeah it’s terrible

[ebon garnet]

where patch notes

[teal radish]

I hate shadow patches

new challenges are cool though

eyeball cave my beloved ❤️

and I just did the olm city slay challenge, cool too

[ebon garnet]

2.0.3 - Hotfix #3

• Added more lag

fixed orange wybel tho, gotta note the positive things as well

[teal radish]

woah there’s another olm city one too

[little olive]

• fixed aqua beacon weight too

[teal radish]

wth is this

dernic puppet master creature??

[covert veldt]

TALL lad

[rare sedge]

Greg but weird

[teal radish]

it actually moves slightly

wow there’s really a lot of new challenges

seen 4 already plus eyeball cave

[alpine forum]

is the patch fully rolled out? I did a 50 challenge SE loot run and never saw that guy or any new challenge

[teal radish]

On new worlds

[vital raft]

its only on new worlds

on old worlds you can still do everything like before the patch

[rare sedge]

Oh, I'm "glad" that hotfix 3 was a shadowpatch

[teal radish]

Challenges I’ve seen so far:

Slay Olm ghosts in Olmic City
Destroy Puppet Master in Olmic City
Slay Target (Garradon) in toxic wastes
Defend books from Biblioclasts
Destroy Void Vortex in Void Valley

[vital raft]

yellow beacon 😍

[rare sedge]

Yellow beacon buffs? No way

[glad ermine]

are yellow fixed in caves? and are they buffed?

[vital raft]

idk, idk

but I still love them theyre so cool 😍 🥰

[teal radish]

I mean, technically yellow beacons are buffed by having more non-spelunk challenges

[glad ermine]

thats not really a buff if you cant stack them without getting a fullk chest of ings

[ocean peak]

Oooh new challenges

[teal radish]

yup 6 new plus eyeball cave added from what I can tell

[ocean peak]

What why though lol

That shit take too long

[teal radish]

not really

plus it’s fun

[timber dock]

can't you just farm the eyes inbetween downtime for lootruns?

the challenge doesn't take away all your eyes anyway right

[ocean peak]

Fair enough

Probably not longer than most defends or slays anyways

[teal radish]

it does, once you leave the cave

[timber dock]

oh that's an F. They probably encounted for people just getting eyes b4 lootruns

[ocean peak]

Is this supposed to be like a summoner lol

[teal radish]

ok this challenge is stupid or bugged (hopefully just bugged)

destroy challenge, literally no mobs spawn

[teal radish]

puppet master i'd call it yeah

mobs that spawn around it were puppet something

[timber dock]

this is the mage experience which mobs?

[ocean peak]

All the new lootrun mobs are so dope

Will have to check them out later

[teal radish]

there’s a toxic wastes slay target boss that looks really stupid cuz of the target highlight

[ocean peak]

The modelers did really good jobs this update

[teal radish]

also its legs are underground idk if that’s intended

[teal radish]

yeah

another new challenge: defend books from overprotective parents /s

ok but seriously there’s a new challenge where you defend books from mobs called “biblioclast”

[vital raft]

omg they added more challeges on paths

[vital raft]

#1132526736387616889 message someone wont be very happy about that...

[teal radish]

at least it’s not directly in the way

the one in corkus is though

[little olive]

i think its actually defend mythic rates from salted

[teal radish]

can’t wait for hotfix to the hotfix that fixes this abysmal lag

wtf server restart?

[vital raft]

maybe its the lag fix

[teal radish]

i hope

wtf

lootrun failed???

uhhh so lootrun apparently insta-fails now if u switch worlds...

[covert veldt]

wtf

If true that's actually sad

[half pike]

constructive feedback: readd profs to ragni please and thanks hic is gonna be so much more painful

[teal radish]

i mean it could be because it put me into an old world but idk

[half pike]

ive heard other people say stuff like that too

[teal radish]

they're still there I think, just moved

[half pike]

yeah but like

that doesnt make it any less terrible

[teal radish]

how is it terrible

[vital raft]

housing exists still

no way you actually crafted on stations in cities instead of housing

[teal radish]

And ragni STILL HAS CRAFTING STATIONS

they just moved the ones in ragni so new players wouldn’t see them

[ebon garnet]

this fuels my profs hatred

[half pike]

instead of having prof stations
easily accessable
in the prof area
you have a bunch of wasted space

where even are the new prof areas?

[teal radish]

right section where housing balloon is

it takes like 5 seconds to get to

[half pike]

skull

[teal radish]

and they’re all together which is nice

[half pike]

at that point why not just go to the housing island itself

[teal radish]

yeah sure

whatever floats your boat

but the prof stations being moved is a good thing so new players don’t see them and think they need to do profs

[half pike]

💀

no way people actually believe stuff like that

like wtf "new players shouldnt think they need to do profs"

not only that but i doubt new players would think they needed to do profs (i didnt and it was literally a required part of the tutorial)

[teal radish]

there’s always a chance they’ll see the prof stations in ragni and start proffing

[half pike]

which isnt a bad thing??? tf????

[little olive]

i did because it was a required part of the tutorial 💀

[half pike]

are you ok?

[teal radish]

and regardless, how tf is this a bad thing, who uses ragni stations anyway

[half pike]

hich and hic be like

[little olive]

(at least it was during dxp weekend and i stopped at like 30-40)

[half pike]

nono im talking to wommby

[modern pier]

Moving away the prof stations in ragni was annoying, now you need to go on a 3 day hike to go to the blacksmith

[half pike]

even outside of craftsman i use ragni stations a lot if im not at detlas

pov: armor crafting but its all crafting

[teal radish]

just use the ragni-detlas tunnel?

[half pike]

my guy thats like a minute wasted

[void nova]

Shaman summoner mains when trapper got summons

Got voided

[half pike]

and possibly more time for me cuz i dont have detlas crafting stations 100% memorized

[void nova]

But fr tho make those shaman summons

[half pike]

me irl

[teal radish]

they’re literally all central

[half pike]

my guy there are 4 sides and a road

[teal radish]

takes like 5 seconds longer

[half pike]

you gotta be joking

you have weaponsmithing and stuff across from tm iirc, pots and such across from blacksmith, cooking down the OPPOSITE ROAD FROM TM, i have no idea where armor is

even with mage tp it isnt 5 seconds

[teal radish]

isn’t armoring literally right next to the ARMOR merchant

[half pike]

i have no idea

thats what im saying about #1124403817941844048 message and #1124403817941844048 message

[covert veldt]

Ohey the tree isn't in the way the animals can actually get to the objective

[half pike]

where even is armor merchant in detlas? people use merchants once in a blue moon for most of them

[teal radish]

bruh 💀

[little olive]

do any of the town armor/weapon merchants even have good items?

[half pike]

ive seen people using dungeon weapons but idk as for town

[ebon garnet]

I know I'm late to the party but yes new players doing profs is a bad thing, profs are a bad thing, profs are bad and the fact that they are having to hide the stations from new players only reaffirms my conviction

[teal radish]

based DogeTennant moment

[void nova]

fat bastard eyefolk like figure apparently

[little olive]

guys can you post patchnotes???

[rare sedge]

No, wynn will do everything as a shadowpatch

[void nova]

Wynncraft promotes book burning with this new challenge

[teal radish]

PLEASE patch notes

[teal radish]

i love that challenge

[void nova]

Litteraly Farinheit 451

[teal radish]

its probably darkest dungeon inspired like the exemplar

[void nova]

I was doing grave digging and woke up the olm in the hood by accident

[teal radish]

immolatist in darkest dungeon II

[void nova]

Garoth in the timelost sanctum be lookin kinda off lately

[cloud mulch]

nope 🙂

[teal radish]

can salted post patchnotes

and just remove whatever needs to be hidden

[ebon garnet]

CAN YOU LET ME IN

[unreal robin]

hour later no patch notes still?

[covert veldt]

Salted confirmed that there won't be patch notes

It was mostly fixing what should have been correctly pushed in hotfix 2 and some extra lootrun challenges

[ocean peak]

NO patch notes for you

[unreal robin]

im not sure if youre trolling, but if there are changes they shuold tell the players? even if its simple?

like wat

[ocean peak]

it's wynncraft we should just expect it at this point

[finite heart]

Gotta avoid hotfix #6 for as long as possible ig

[woeful grail]

Of course there are no patchnotes
Why would there be patchnotes
Why tell players what was changed

[unreal robin]

Please say you fixed yellows? It’s weird you can buff and nerf aqua and add whole new camps but yellow are broken half the time still

[teal radish]

nope yellows are the same

[gentle sable]

this was hotfix 2 but since we always working on stuffs, there were a few more fixes n stuffs in there

[teal radish]

how can it be hotfix 2 if its a seperate hotfix

[sharp drift]

Fix fucking dungeouns it is annoying

[gentle sable]

it's not, there were some issues in that hotfix

[neon slate]

a goofy looking model

[teal radish]

and were there no patch notes because it wasnt important, or because of something possibly abusable like deusphage said?

[gentle sable]

well cuc is fixed now, and cib too

[sharp drift]

Oh corrupted fixed realy ? Say me what is it

Just didn't spawn

[gentle sable]

it was just "hotfix 2 for real this time and no fuck ups"

[teal radish]

so she’s lying here?

(after asking why no patch notes)

[gentle sable]

that aint cuc or cib tho, if it's a new issue then it's something else ^^

🤷‍♂️

[sharp drift]

Bloody hell

[gentle sable]

also, IGN? Coords?

[sharp drift]

IGN ?

[gentle sable]

in game name

[sharp drift]

Makakas

I has already wtitten /kill

[hollow oak]

was there a thirdd hotfix shadow patch or smth

[gentle sable]

#1124403817941844048 message

[gentle sable]

the 3 dudes didn't spawn? it didn't open the door?

[sharp drift]

Like is is a room after parkour

[gentle sable]

yea

[sharp drift]

I appeared there and nothing

[gentle sable]

you get dropped and some dudes spawn down there

[sharp drift]

Like nothing at all

[gentle sable]

and when you kill them it opens a hole

[sharp drift]

There are no mobs at all

[gentle sable]

did you use any spell while going down or something?

[sharp drift]

no

[gentle sable]

aight i'll check again later but at least it works on our side so it's not fully broken ^^ I'm not sure what could have caused that yet and it doesn't seem like others have experienced this particular issue yet (or at least enough other people to report it)

[covert veldt]

So essentially hotfix 2.5

[scarlet cargo]

is it just me or are blue beacons are almost impossible to find without orange beacons post hotfix?

[woeful grail]

Funny story
If you dont have eye marathon completed and log into a new world while still in a lr from before the shadow patch it will instacancel your lr

[fathom gale]

yep we just gota figure out all the changes on our own as per usual

[ocean peak]

yep

[hollow oak]

wynncraft try to be transparent challenge(impossible!!)

[teal radish]

actually I think its cuz of lag, happened to me going from a new world to another new world

[fathom gale]

surely hotfix 3 will include the changes done in this hotfix as well... right?

[hybrid frigate]

Hotfix 3 will include the same change as this hotfix 2.1, the lack of a patchnote

[woeful grail]

nah
it happened to me and a friend on our classes that didnt do eye gaunlet

[hybrid frigate]

Average wynncraft player's quality of life increases 500% according to our survey after the idea to not release patchnotes

[teal radish]

ok but I had eye gauntlet and it happened to me

[short cave]

Is it just me or is health overtuned on the olm slay mobs

they don't really hurt, and move really slow but just take ages to kill

[fathom gale]

huh

i 1shot them with meteors without any boons wym

[short cave]

the big guys?

[fathom gale]

wait nvm i misunderstood the challenge

i cant remember any of the location names properly 😭

[rare sedge]

It's just a shadowpatch (we'll barely notice it)

Like we barely noticed the one very infamous 2.0 hotfix

[woeful grail]

What happened there?

[rare sedge]

The very infamous roll range swap

[woeful grail]

Oh right

[short cave]

is it intended that you sometimes don't get offered aquas?

[bronze prism]

beacon choice is randomized

[short cave]

I mean when I have 8 choices and sometimes I don't get two aquas in a row, is it like gray where aqua can only show up x times in a row before its not a given choice

[fathom gale]

that rly doesnt answer russel's question

[short cave]

if I get all the beacons offered how does randomness change it showing up or not lol

[bronze prism]

it kinda does actually. beacon choice is randomized and there's more than 8 beacons that can be selected from

so, 8 beacons =/= guaranteed aqua beacon

it's a pretty good chance, but not a guarantee

hence

[short cave]

okay can I give context then, if I have removed green, and white from the pool, and I have 8 choices why am I not getting an aqua beacon and only being offered 7 beacons

[fathom gale]

considering he has 8 beacon choices i would imagine he has taken a bunch of one time beacons alredy

[short cave]

I understand if all the bacons are in the pool I won't always get x beacon

[fathom gale]

having 8 beacons at the start was rare even before the aqua fix

[bronze prism]

ik there's limits on how many aquas in a row you can get, did you already get two aquas at that point cause iirc two aquas in a row is the limit to avoid people stacking beacon power up too gigantically high

[short cave]

yeah I know the 2 in a row limit, but in certain runs I will grab my first for my chain, and a second won't be offered and I will have -1 choice of beacons than I should(the second aqua is missing).

Trying to figure out if that is not intended behavior or not.

To add on after I grab another beacon that I can physically see is only boosted by one aqua. An aqua will then appear again so it's not me running out of them or reaching the 2 in a row limit

[fathom gale]

i think this has happened to me on rare ocasions even before aqua fix

[short cave]

yeah if you just watch the way your beacons appear in high choice runs you will notice aqua is just not offered sometimes

grey too but its documented somewhere gray is never offered twice in a row

[fathom gale]

(inb4 some CT pulls up and tells us some gamechanging aqua mechanic that we didnt know untill now)

[short cave]

I mean I would assume with how rare it happens it's just an edge case not accounted for, or its some crazy mechanic like you can't get offered 7 aqua beacons in a row

[cloud mulch]

(he doesnt know about the bonus scaling 🤣)

[regal plank]

If you’ve only been offered 1 aqua in a row, and have 8 beacon choices with only 8 valid beacons, aqua should definitely show up for that selection. In that scenario, aqua should be guaranteed to show up for two out of every three challenges.

If I’m understanding right, then aqua not showing up sounds like it should be a bug rather than intended behavior (but I’m not CT so I’m just guessing)

[short cave]

tealy throwing out some red herrings

[trim elbow]

aqua currently only shows up twice in a row and then disappears 3rd challenge regardless of whether or not you take it

you’d think people would’ve realized this with guaranteed aquas but. yeah.

if you’re losing aqua choice after only taking one it’s likely that you took it on the 2nd challenge of the cycle

[little olive]

Maybe its because it generates challenges in a certain order and theres no challenge left to assign aqua too?

[trim elbow]

there’s significantly more challenges than possible beacons

[trim elbow]

just to lyk aqua limit is currently implemented in such a way where it can only be offered as a choice up to twice in a row, regardless of whether or not you actually take it

[little olive]

Qlso, if you get aqua on the second challenge and reroll it cant show up on the reroll

[trim elbow]

I interpreted patch notes to mean that it’s supposed to show up indefinitely and only disappear when you’ve taken it twice, but it’s simply not implemented that way

[short cave]

Ah now I see it, that was changed in the first patch notes, not last patch

[unreal robin]

This exactly, I can have 8 beacons choices lower it all the way to 4 by removing green and red from the pools and still won’t get an aqua even though I know I have some left in my pool, it will even only give my 4/8 of the beacon choices imo it’s extremely frustrating. I think the really need to revamp the reroll system and basic system of beacon spawning in

[soft thicket]

Aqua shows up on a basis of two times in a row and then not on the 3rd one

Gray shows up every other beacon

To my knowledge every other beacon type is guaranteed with enough choices

[queen grotto]

me or defend challenges just got a lot harder somehow
did they shadownerf the hp values of the objectives

[stable pecan]

The one in toxic wastes is still funny
Still borderline just a slay mob waves challenge

[unreal robin]

the burn one is defenatly harder than the other ones

[queen grotto]

there are like 2 defends in toxic wastes tho

[timber dock]

did they chance grey only appearing once every other challenge or is it still the same this patch?

[spiral cargo]

Please change quest book

[glad ermine]

no ❤️

[teal radish]

Adding to the beacon chance coversation, I was doing a lootrun last night where I had 8 beacon choices, and at one point I rerolled, and dropped down to 6 choices, as green and aqua were removed from the list. It might’ve been my second aqua, so the aqua being removed makes sense, but then I rerolled again, and green and aqua still didn’t show up. Aqua should definitely show up on the second reroll, right? And green shouldn’t have stopped showing up at all.

[stable pecan]

green stops showing up after a (long) while, and rerolls no longer refresh beacon availability like aqua/gray

well.
ok not entirely sure how rerolls work

[timber dock]

I dont understand how green didnt show up

aqua also doesnt really make sense ig

[teal radish]

I was about 50 challenges in, and the green showed up before I rerolled. And I’m pretty sure green just has a limit of 10, should show up forever otherwise.

Yes, I know the rerolls don’t count towards giving you back the aqua, but that means they shouldn’t take away the aqua either. I had aqua in my choices, rerolled, and aqua was gone.

Honestly, they should just make it so aquas don’t appear if you already have a 2 aqua stack. Needing to time the aquas is kind of annoying.

[vague falcon]

Important Suggestion: the Basalt Basin cave should not be level 60 because the mobs in it are level 72+ and it's located in a level 70 area as well

[trim elbow]

rerolls can take away beacons but can’t give them back it’s kinda fucked

[fathom gale]

can we like nerf mythic rates further instead of making lootruning itself less fun and harder to actualy get half decent runs 🙏
(yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue)
i love yellow blue

[unreal robin]

Please

[sleek valley]

do purples not appear?

[unreal robin]

Like please please please please please. I’d rather not get much from 4 2 hour lr in a row than do 12 shitty reason before getting 1 “god run”

[little olive]

what do yellow beacons even do?

do they add a fixed amount to lb, lq, something else?

[sleek valley]

they dont work on caves atm

[fathom gale]

they appear, unless i have aqua stacks ofc then its just yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue with some ocasional green

[fathom gale]

more loot in challenge reward chests (turns to ingridients if aqua stacked to hell)

[little olive]

so just multiplies the amount of loot you get by x and stacks multiplicatively with lb?

[fathom gale]

even if you take the yellow beacon on a challenge with a cave chest your next challenge reward will still have loot increased

[fathom gale]

idk ask salted about details

[little olive]

salted cant let us have fun

[fathom gale]

all i know is that yellow = many rares and legendaries
aqua stacked yellow = many t1 ingridients

[little olive]

ould ruin teh authentic wynn experience

[teal radish]

do you have any idea why green would be removed by rerolling?

[timber dock]

if that wasnt a very unlucky/weird bug and its for everyone its not that bad

since it will increase orange/rainbow challenges but i havent tested it myself yet

[teal radish]

I had 6 beacon options, rerolled, and dropped down to 4 cuz no green (and no aqua but that’s intended 💀)

[little olive]

are you sure thats intended (aqua)?

[teal radish]

yeah since aqua can only appear twice in a row

[little olive]

isnt it supposed to be two challenges in a row though?

[teal radish]

yeah I guess

I guess it could be unintended that rerolls take it away

since rerolls now don’t give it back

[unreal robin]

Now that you added new camps to lutho can you guys remove some of the invisible barriers that don’t make alot of sense anymore. I’d much rather be able to fly through the black spike area instead of being forced to walk around everytime. I feel it’s important since so much travel is happening in that area

[fathom gale]

nah wynn devs love their pointless barriers everywhere

[little olive]

basically remove any barries except those that block se from outside world and those that block early se from eo

[fathom gale]

like thsi spike is absolutely surrounded with barriers?? why

its the most pointless thing ever

[unreal robin]

Truthfully im not sure how much I want to lr this patch majority of my runs just feel really bad

[fathom gale]

i havent had many attempts but so far all runs ended before challenge 10

13 le in 10 minutes tho..

[half pike]

wait til you see that bridge over nivla woods

[fathom gale]

im earning good money while absolutely not enjoying myself

idk about other people but i would prefer to get less mythics but actualy enjoy the process

[half pike]

infested plants i tihnk

the one where you go with ope and you go over a bridge and down

still pretty good somehow despite the fact most of it is falling through cobwebs

im kinda impressed

[unreal robin]

I agree a lot with this

[glad ermine]

same i agree with this

[half pike]

i mean like

[fathom gale]

• if mythics are more rare then you get moer satisfaction from getting it

[half pike]

is there a way to make camps fun? cuz i have not had fun at all doing it

[glad ermine]

yea exactly what i was going to say

[tender carbon]

Having only 6 mythics in the drop pool smokes the market

[half pike]

and lets be real you get satisfaction from mythics no matter how rare they are if you have gotten 3 or 5 this hour it doesnt change

[timber dock]

can anyone check UNID immolation prices for me?

[tender carbon]

like 32 le

rip bozo 2.0.3 moment

[fathom gale]

me getting an immolation with a pokerface and rerolling it without a second thought:

[timber dock]

im gonna do it screw 32 le

[glad ermine]

getting more consistent runs with a lower chance of getting a mythic is way better than restart 4 times to get a good run and getting a mythic lol

[fathom gale]

they were fun during hotfix 2 and they were also somewhat fun before hotfix 1

[half pike]

interesting

even at the start i still preferred lootrunning over camps

which like its lootrunning thats saying a lot

[fathom gale]

well i enjoy actualy having to use some part of my brain while figuring out how to go about beacons

[glad ermine]

i think nerfing warrior would fix this

[fathom gale]

but that cant happen if i just get yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue yellow blue

[half pike]

interesting

beacons are a big issue with camps too

[glad ermine]

yea its painful ngl, i genuienly feel like i will fall asleep when that happens, even lr before the camps update i didnt feel like that lol

[half pike]

instead of having like choices its just "go defend there or kill mobs there"

[fathom gale]

the aqua bug actualy made lootruns fun (which is just common wynncraft where bugs actualy make stuff fun)

[half pike]

instead of doing what you want to do where and when you want to you just kinda sit around half the time on a tree killing things

[fathom gale]

beacons are what make lootruning fun but what also makes it absolutely terrible, deppending on the current hotfix situation

[glad ermine]

+1 beacon choice for gm + not making orange practically impossible to find in later challenges (as according to some1 from CT orange becomes rarer as you go on... why?)

[fathom gale]

we love making sure that long runs are as dog shit as possible

why spend 3 hours for 5 le when you can spend 10-20 minutes for 20 le

[glad ermine]

theres no incentive to do long ass runs (with 2 beacon choices) when orange becomes even more rare in later challenges..

[fathom gale]

not to mention the pulls to time ratio for long runs..

[glad ermine]

yea

[little olive]

corkus is a lie

[fathom gale]

only psychopaths lr corkus

[tender carbon]

yeah pretty much

[glad ermine]

i have never even done a lr in corkus lmao

[fathom gale]

i did one for the daily xp cuz i wanted to lvl fast

that was about it

[covert veldt]

I did corkus to have a change of pace from se

and I got shiny boreal in the process lol

[glad ermine]

lol

[little olive]

same

[timber dock]

did the devs ever say anything about lutho having higher rates then corkus or not?

i could see corkus being good if the rotation is all like 2m+ mythics

[little olive]

id assume it works on a weight system so se is propably higher than cork

[tender carbon]

When you get a mythic it should just be totally random tbh

[glad ermine]

wouldnt make sense for them to have different rates tbh, but who knows

[little olive]

(some ct said that the calc is complicated or smth so i assume it doenst just roll for mythic and then chooses which one)

[fathom gale]

also can the 6 eyes cave not push me out with "a magical bla bla force pushes yout out" before i even have a chance to open all 3 chests

[timber dock]

in the most recent hotfix has the CIB and the orange wybel being fixed by any chance?

I saw a CT say it mostly fixed bugs related to LR but nothing stated about CIB even though one of the CT's said that he solved the issue 2 hotfixes ago.

[light pivot]

I heard cib was fixed

I think

[modern pier]

Wybel was fixed too

[tender carbon]

Put all mythics in drop pool

[little olive]

kid called loot everything except for lootrun end reward chest

[tender carbon]

tf you on about

[modern pier]

Hes saying you can open chests and find every mythic

[tender carbon]

I mean if you like being poor and lootrun every 3 days for a 5% chance of getting a mythic you can do traditional lr if you want

Im talking about putting all the mythics in the drop pool of the new lr system so that the market does not get flooded by the same 6 mythics

[modern pier]

You open chests while doing the new lootruns 💀

[tender carbon]

again 3 days

7 emeralds and 1 unique type mf

[short cave]

well over 150 lootruns completed and i’ve only found 2 box mythics just find them lol isn’t a good answer , we should have random mythics

[tender carbon]

thats what im sayin

[trim elbow]

I found 5 box mythics in the first like 70 lrs

[modern pier]

I found 33% of my mythics in regular chests prenerf

[timber dock]

prenerf?

[modern pier]

Yes

[glad ermine]

since when did they nerf mythics from normal chests? huh

in the patch notes they said they only nerfed it for end reward chest

[modern pier]

Im referring to the end reward chest nerf...

[half pike]

oh i was thinking just 2.0.3 lul

[modern pier]

I could have been more clear

[ocean peak]

The amount of random ass spikes with barriers going up to the skybox when trying to fly around on acolyte is so annoying

I really don’t understand it either

[unreal robin]

Real Ct plz respond to this since it seems like it’s only of the only things you can actually fix without jumping thru a ton of hoops

[ebon garnet]

My constructive feedback is

fix timelost sanctum dungeon, literally unplayable

no mobs spawning in the first courtyard

the issue can't be fixed by classing

[silver siren]

Fix bug suggestion in #1019649786799996980

[sleek valley]

..the first one? ive only heard about the fourth one breaking

[ebon garnet]

yes, I've had the first one break 3 times already

ever since hotfix 2

[sleek valley]

weird . nothing changed that could have broken it

i can take a look

[ebon garnet]

I can record it next time I do it which will be relatively soon but there's not that much to it, I just enter the courtyard room and in the very first one, no mobs spawn at all, I waited for like 5 minutes, classed several times and just nothing

[sleek valley]

nah no need

[modern pier]

We love those

[unreal robin]

I literally feel like 90% of Ct ignore my msg… like bru you can respond to the guy under me but not a map change that would take like 10 minutes at most

[sleek valley]

cant comment on barrier removal sorry

[unreal robin]

Why tho? I understand why they were put there when lutho was first made but they feel so outdating and out of place now that you are encouraging so much more travel in lutho. Having so do a massive S in order to get from one side to the other is extremely annoying the the only reason you can go in a straight line is some weird invisible wall that really makes no sense to be there

[unreal robin]

Ig just slightly frustrating not knowing what CT does map work like Madeline and what CT do dungeon stuff (I think I remember you being in charge of that idk) since you guys just have the same icon it’s hard to know who to even talk to

[queen grotto]

can we make the boss glow toggleable it's lagging my pc the heck out

[teal radish]

and it makes Garadon (the new toxic wastes slay target) look terrible on 1.12.2

[lone leaf]

boss glow is terrible ngl

[woeful grail]

Agree

[queen grotto]

so true

[fathom gale]

Nah I like boss glow

It makes it easier to spot where the heck the exemplar teleported after going shizo mod and teleporting 5 times a second

[candid prawn]

Isn’t the point of that to disorientate you and make you lose sight of the boss

I feel like the glowing kinda just removes all of that and lets you spot it instantly

[fathom gale]

That's what I like

[hard heron]

a bigger offender is bosses that blind you but glow anyway

[teal radish]

yeah removing boss glow would work too

[candid prawn]

At the very least make it a toggle

[queen grotto]

^

[woeful grail]

too much dev time

[modern pier]

Wouldnt the fix there be to just update your game

[fathom gale]

fr why are people still playing on 1.12.2

that shit's ancient

[modern pier]

I wonder that too

And then theres the rare kind of people that throws a tantrum when being told to update

[light pivot]

i hate the ui customization on artemis

it makes me die inside

[hybrid frigate]

Just don't customize lol

[modern pier]

Youre basically asking CT and Wynntils devs to adapt to more than one version

[light pivot]

no

[light pivot]

im not complaining ill prob switch eventually but only when i feel it is bad enough playing on 1.12.2 for me to do that

hopefully by that time the ui cutsomization in artemis doesnt make me wanna die

[fathom gale]

whats so bad about artemis

[light pivot]

i do not like the ui costumizaton

thats it

[fathom gale]

its literaly the same as wynntils as far as my eyes can tell

[light pivot]

it isnt

[fathom gale]

🤷

[light pivot]

very different

[fathom gale]

well dont expect this to ever happen

the more you wait the harder the swap will be

i changed to artemis very very early on so it never rly bothered me

[light pivot]

i mean i could swap rn not like i cant customise the parts that matter to me rn im just lazy

[fathom gale]

ive only ever done 2 customizations

disabled the custom wynntils tab list cuz its dog

and also disabled the status overlay cuz lootruns make it go crazy

[light pivot]

i do more than that

i move stuff around

[fathom gale]

cant relate

[half pike]

its the best version wdym

[fathom gale]

the laggiest version

[half pike]

aside from like

the newer versions sure

my guy the newer versions are the ones people complain about lag for lul

[fathom gale]

idk all my fps issues dissapeared when i made the switch to 1.19.4

and i stoped needing a mod just to prevent disconecting from guild wars..

[vital raft]

I have only ever heard 1 person complain about lag on 1.19 out of many dozens that switched

[half pike]

interesting

i am not interested in
-installing fabric
-installing a new version of wynntils
-installing a ton of various performance enhancing mods which may or may not work
when i can just stay on 1.12.2 with only wynntils

puts me at way less risk of accidentally clicking the wrong download button too

[vital raft]

Ok I guess you can enjoy your outdated wynntils version for a while longer

[modern pier]

Downloading fabric and new wynntils version takes less than 3 minutes to do

[soft thicket]

Use launchy bruh

Wynntils mod installer

[half pike]

what

[soft thicket]

It basically has a mod list and install button for literally every relevant wynncraft and performance mod

And some like qol ones

[teal radish]

I mean, I’m sure they can fix it, none of the other bosses have a glitched boss glow (and they fixed another 1.12-specific bug during beta where gold pickaxe texture was broke)

I’m still on 1.12 mainly cuz of broken chorus plant connections on higher versions (and not having to see the ugly new chat is nice)

also 1.19 movement feels weird

[little olive]

skill issue

[half pike]

yeah those are a few big issues

[rare sedge]

Well, I'm the 2nd one

[half pike]

ill be the third one!

[modern pier]

Huh i thought you guys didnt switch

[fathom gale]

💤

i cant wait for next hotfix to make lring even less fun

(why tf do i kee pgetting 5-15 LE from sub 10 challenge runs that i jsut end early cuz bad beacons but when i go on a long run i endup with 30 EB)

at this point why even bother going for long runs if they'll never be worth it

[light pivot]

ye i spent 24 minutes lootrunning today and got an archangel

pretty much entire week of lootrunning was those 24 minutes cuz no time to lootrun this week

[fathom gale]

short and boring runs are rewarding while long and somewhat fun (used to be more fun but we cant have nice things so 😔) are less rewarding

makes sense

[glad ermine]

new hotfix is going to make orange even more rare

[light pivot]

totally adding fun

when +1 beacon choice as grandmaster reward pls do that

[half pike]

thats why i dont switch partly lul

[fathom gale]

they will do that but then make orange limited to 1 orange per run

[light pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-die-dies-nekodies-nekodie-gif-21965693

[glad ermine]

imo either way add +1 beacon choice for gm and limit to 1 orange per run (but dont make it impossible to get ffs), or just increase the chance of getting an orange.. rn its so damn rare

[modern pier]

Wait so you were lagging on 1.19.4 unmodded?

[woeful grail]

Same
I came back to wynn at the end of august last year
I switched to artemis middle of october bc 1.12 crashes too often for my liking

Also 1.12 veing less laggy is cap
My pc is running at half the noise and i can open 3 instances on a laptop and its still playable

(fps does tank quite a bit tho)

[modern pier]

I kept crashing on 1.12 too but not in 1.19.4

[half pike]

yeah man

1.12.2 is 60 fps solid for me even with wynntils

even with optifine

[rare sedge]

I'm the opposite

[modern pier]

Ooo well there you go

Only downside 1.19 gave to me is that the game takes like double the time to start

[light pivot]

idk im always fine on 1.12.2 and im playing on my 3.5 year old laptop

ig i did do a few upgrades to it recently tho so that prob helps

[little olive]

Just use performance mods . . .

[fathom gale]

forge or fabric loader ?

cuz in using fabric and it starts very fast even with shaders and crap

[little olive]

Id rather have a longer startup time if everything else loads faster

[modern pier]

Fabric

[fathom gale]

weird cuz my mc loads way faster on 1.19 than 1.12

[void nova]

how aberrated

[sleek valley]

lol .

[void nova]

I mean it technically is aberrated versus your average lutho citizen because it looks incorrect entirely

Compared to what they look like

[lone leaf]

avg 1.19

[teal radish]

just hit grandmaster...and it does not feel rewarding or like an accomplishment at all
not a grind at all, and nothing to show for it

[unreal robin]

agree getting master feels much much better i forgot about grandmaster being a thing till i randomly checked

[fathom gale]

Grandmaster would be cool if there was a leaderboard for overflow XP

So people can atleast compete with eachother

[young ore]

Leaderboards……,,,,,,,,,,£££

[fathom gale]

the SR incident

[hard heron]

rainbow beacons should really have a different starting colour so that people with animations disabled can still tell them apart

[fathom gale]

rainbow color should be a proper rainbow!

not all of the colors of the rianbow rotating

[hard heron]

^^

[fathom gale]

idk how possible that is in mc however

[hard heron]

are wynncraft beacons even actual beacons anyway

i assume their some sort of entity since beacons would render from much further away than these beacons seem to

[sleek valley]

they are entities yea

[hard heron]

if their entities they can be made to be some sort of sliding gradient can't they

rather than being just one colour at any given time, have their colour change along their length and the rainbow slide up or down

[light pivot]

would be better for me not getting confused

[half pike]

does mask of the lunatic no longer decrease aura cost or smth??

[little olive]

it should, why do you think ti doesnt?

[half pike]

i still have 24 cost

usually i have 18 or 19 or so

[little olive]

do aura once without and once with mask to test

[half pike]

wtf now it works

????

[little olive]

are you sure you actually had motl on?

[half pike]

i cast uproot

[pallid kestrel]

I complain

[ocean forge]

will this structure be used in lootrun camp challenges?
(just because its unused and i'm curious about it)

[vital raft]

its behind EO so it probably wont be part of the lootrun camp but yea its unaccessible right now kinda sad :(

[little olive]

Add pz fight as lootrun challenge

[rare sedge]

Huh that looks extremely interesting

[light pivot]

add EO as super rare 100 pull challenge

[little olive]

Eo is hard on time but i personally die more on pz than eo

[light pivot]

whats pz im dum and have only lootran once in the last 7 days

cuz shit internet most of the time reasons

[soft thicket]

Panic zealot (boss altar behind EO)

[light pivot]

ah that

[soft thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/wynncraft-bottomless-pit-boss-altar-panic-zealot-panic-gif-21253458

[cunning verge]

stop playing with animations disabled

[pallid kestrel]

Its a valid suggestion nonetheless

[gritty yarrow]

panic zealot is kinda pain (never beaten it since I always freeze atleast one and die

once got it down to literly 2% hp

[little olive]

its actually pretty easy with shaman due to regeneratio constantly healing you after your health gets nuked

[gritty yarrow]

Im archer

unlike shamen even though I am also very weak to imcoming damage I cant heal all I want to

[tardy haven]

lantern keeper isnt bad just dont hit horse

[fathom gale]

lantern keeper is free money

[half pike]

lantern keeper is painful

like that one cave with the giant and the slimes where the thing you need to kill respawns like 8 times before it counts as a death

[spare charm]

How long were your runs though

Time/challenges

[fathom gale]

i have a 140 challenge one (200 pull 10 rr) that gave me 5 le

[spare charm]

yk what’s funny

[fathom gale]

and 164 pull 16 rr nothing again

[spare charm]

that’s quite literally how mine ended up last night

I found more success from 50-60 challenge runs with 120-150 10 rr

[fathom gale]

and guess what? my 47 Pull run gave me shiny epoch

and practicaly all my mythics are from sub 80 pull runs

[spare charm]

in theory it’s actually better to do shorter runs since you don’t have to waste as many rerolls on what could’ve been spent on new runs

[fathom gale]

im doing a 110 challenge run right now and i know il regret it

[spare charm]

Yea I only do the long long runs now if I just feel like making myself suffer for 2 hours

I have one set up to do a 50-60 later

[fathom gale]

not to mention that long runs have the worst mythic rate so far from my testing

almost 2 times worse than <75 pull runs

[spare charm]

wdym by worst mythic rate

chance per pull or just number of pulls on avg

[spare charm]

is that with accounting for mythics rerolled or just taking

[fathom gale]

rerolled as well

[spare charm]

mmm

[fathom gale]

just any mythic that appears while you open even if u rr past it

[timber dock]

Tbf i think most people dont show all their small runs or failed runs

[spare charm]

I should probably add my data in at some point too

[fathom gale]

eh

[spare charm]

most failed/small runs won’t affect it too much even if they do tbh

[fathom gale]

majority of the people submiting <75 run pulls seem to be submiting a LOT of pulls

[spare charm]

they don’t amount up to more than 120 pulls total in a failed run usually

[fathom gale]

like so far there is a small group of people that submit their runs consistently, there are barely any random people with a few submissions

[spare charm]

is it the spreadsheet you linked?

[fathom gale]

and if i see someone that just posts 1 random run with 8 pulls 1 mythic then i wont even add it

[spare charm]

I’ll start adding my data once chest refreshes probably

[fathom gale]

#1130744061200961536 its pinned in here

[spare charm]

it’s too late for me to go back and check what my past pulls were

[timber dock]

Its weird though almost like every run however many challenges you’ve done you get an added fixed chance of obtaining the mythic. Either that or its still to low of a sample size maybe?