2.0.3 Constructive Feedback Megathread

[light pivot]

ye those seem so cursed

[thorny glacier]

I think we need a diagnosis from the doctor

a quick checkup on whoever came up with that nonsense, just like elemental spell dmg

[light pivot]

idk elemental spell dmg feels less weird to me

[fathom gale]

quetzacoatl tierstack 😻

[light pivot]

but specific element spell/main dmg feels weird

[thorny glacier]

whoever added it sounds like someone who would want saviours sacrifice name to be changed because it doesn't make sense as a name

[light pivot]

i noticed that thread does SS only affect the one with it now?

[subtle prairie]

🤓 losing HP is not a sacrifice

[thorny glacier]

wdym?

[light pivot]

idk

only reason that would make sense to maybe rename it is if it did that

but ye my fault thinking ppl have working brains again

[thorny glacier]

ah now i get what u meant, as in affecting the person itself with the stats. no. everyone around and including the user gets affected

[light pivot]

tf were they on about it needing a name change then?

[thorny glacier]

apparently having to sacrifice 50% of hp "isnt a sacrifice", especially when the user benefits in the end himself as well as others

[light pivot]

bruh

literally reason i dont use fallen cuz it is too much of a sacrifice for me

and by that i mean fmonk cuz i would never have more fallen than bmonk ever

[teal radish]

to be fair they are both more of a risk than a sacrifice

But Savior’s Risk would sound dumb

[light pivot]

true

but u get that risk from sacrificing ur health

[teal radish]

yea

[rare sedge]

What accessory type are those

Symbiont necklace and atavastic rings?

[thorny glacier]

its a risk, but you sacrifice health. its not that hard to understand.

[teal radish]

@rare sedge ^

[teal radish]

yeah ik, just playing devils advocate

[rare sedge]

Ok, pirouette is 1 ap now, acrobat is saved

[queen grotto]

🔥🔥

[vocal coral]

when they fixing shaman heal tho 😭

[quiet lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1120115860200226897/1125130005328961596/war.gif

[peak arrow]

Shaman -60% damage res is crazy, the class kinda relies on aura, and its kinda just toooo glassy atm

[vocal coral]

sooo uhh i just learned how bad regular chests are in the new update...

These are 3 DAY chests opened with disco + 60ish lq
(i think they are 3 day cuz i have not opened any chests on beta before this, and i have logged onto beta more than 3 days ago)

Tier 1 - nearly empty
Tier 2 - less than 30 ems
Tier 3 - not even half full to 75% full
Tier 4 - mostly full to full

is this really intended?

[queen grotto]

saddest loot ive seen tbh

[silver siren]

Yea this is depressing

[fathom gale]

you'll barely notice it

[finite heart]

you'll barely notice the chests

[queen grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-fuck-you-gif-23535457

[woeful grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1026131622501814342/1128328504950390857/caption.gif

[viral prairie]

These are three day chest? They look worst than 30 minnutes chest in the other post

[verbal mirage]

cryptic chests 💀

imagine you grind cryptic keys in 2.0.3

[stable pecan]

Seems like it's at the point that the feedback thread doesn't get 500 daily messages

[quiet lark]

good ending

[peak arrow]

Give shaman's lunatic mask some form of sustain, cus -60% defense is nuts
maybe make it so that instead of -20% damage resistance, when you take damage with lunatic, you cant move for a minor amount of time, making it harder to just jump out with lunatic but still making it possible

[woeful grail]

shaman base def needs some looking at
60% base is aggressive

[queen grotto]

the 60% base isn't worth it
probably never worth it actually

[peak arrow]

but now lunatic also makes it so -20, so the base is actually 40 base

[light pivot]

was shaman not glassy enough?

[thorny glacier]

2.0 shaman isn't actually that glassy, or at least doesn't feel like it

[light pivot]

ig

but now with the mask of the lunatic reducing base defence and armor tomes being nerfed

[peak arrow]

its not fair

i wanna play shaman its so damn fun

[thorny glacier]

i mean if they at least buffed shaman up to be comparable in dps

[light pivot]

same

[peak arrow]

its dps is fine, im doing 2.4k with aure at like lvl 33

[light pivot]

keynumber "33"

[peak arrow]

??

[light pivot]

not exactly endgame which is what we are mostly talking about

[peak arrow]

yea true lol

does the damage not increase much?

[thorny glacier]

shaman totem is rather stationary, it cant ever kite properly. and even if its stationary, the dps of vengeful spirit that you buff your teammates with is probably higher than your entire dps

[light pivot]

imagine if ritualist masks actually replaced ur totem and ur spells came from them instead

[peak arrow]

anything to make it playable at least

[thorny glacier]

narcissist:

[light pivot]

i cant use narcissist with a weapon which i actually like

[thorny glacier]

u would need to use it as main weapon anyway

[light pivot]

cuz it is on one weapon which im pretty sure isnt that good

[cedar locust]

I don't know anything about shaman.
How does aura work with totemic shatter?

[light pivot]

it doesnt

at least from what i can read

[cedar locust]

fun

[light pivot]

wait mask of the awakened isnt a red node?

[thorny glacier]

isnt ur main damage supposed to be the shatter then

[cedar locust]

what do the colors mean?

[light pivot]

make new red node that makes masks count as totems and makes storm surge push enemies away instead

[thorny glacier]

why should it be, who tf uses that anyway

[light pivot]

true but like it is a capstone ability for ritualist

every other capstone kinda thing i remember is red and actually worth it actually nvm second chance exists

[thorny glacier]

second chance is legit the best ability in the game, it allows noobs to complete hic(h) for free

[light pivot]

true

ig it is useful for some things

unlike mask of the awakened

anyway ima go take a bath baths are nice

[thorny glacier]

cold shower.

[modern pier]

I so agree

[void nova]

How to solve aura: Make it’s dmg 250% instead of 180%

[peak arrow]

thats not bad actually

i was spending like 15 minutes lookin for how to justify mroe damage taken

[void nova]

Well if you’re gonna take a lotta dmg easily may as well be an existing glass heavy damage AOE as is a bit so it can keep up with damage to other classes than fit a niche role

[peak arrow]

true

[unreal robin]

From what I understand they pretty much ruined loot running with this update?

[high osprey]

no, the opposite

they made it actually enjoyable to do (im assuming you mean the entirety of 2.0.3, not the latest patch on the beta)

[untold junco]

I love the new lootrun system, but if you're talking about the old system of loot running then it is provably weaker than before.

[half pike]

yeah lootrunning is kinda 💀

it seems a lot like you gotta level to 80 or so to unlock camps in order to like

get items

part of why im quick lring before it gets broken

[vocal coral]

im not sure what visual indicator would tell me they are 3 days, but yeah i opened them for the first time, and i have logged onto the server more than 3 days ago so i'd assume they'd start filling up in that time

[gentle grail]

Yo what's that shield thing

[thorny glacier]

an ingredient probably, using a texturepack

[vocal coral]

ya major's badge

[unreal robin]

I mean loot just seems like trash, previously majority of mythics were found in tier 1 or 2 chests, I heavily doubt there’s any chance for that seeing how trash the chests seem to be in the hero beta

[ebon garnet]

Where is my STAR next to my level

[trim elbow]

gone forever

[finite basin]

twain arc

why

[queen grotto]

whar happened to twains arc

[regal pewter]

How is totemic shatter supposed to work?

[olive shale]

Anyone else seeing busted poison numbers on their items they owned before the update?

[shy mesa]

It got buffed in 2.0.3, because poison sucked.

[olive shale]

Ayo??? It sucked?

[finite basin]

THANK YOU

we can now use shrapnel with grape bombs

SYNERGY <333333

[queen grotto]

whar the hELL???

[teal radish]

wait does the new design show combat level now?

[queen grotto]

do the shrapnels work with recycling

[ebon garnet]

wdym

[teal radish]

During beta the new chat look apparently showed overall level rather than combat level

[ebon garnet]

idk I just see combat level when I type

[teal radish]

oh ok then they changed it, cool

(new design is still kinda ugly tho)

[ebon garnet]

yea I don't like it very much

AND I HATE THAT MY STAR IS GONE

[tired bear]

😔

[manic basin]

i see the scroll feature but i think it needs tinkering

wait

i see it now, im blind lmao

[teal radish]

agreed, there should be a checkbox sorting system

[manic basin]

there is lol, i just didnt see it

[teal radish]

you still have a point though, itd be nice to show multiple types at once without using show all

[manic basin]

im literally half blind and didnt see it on my screen lmao

filter

do think the ui is a bit blinding to look at tho, and i think the filter buttons need to be a lot less. grey.

[olive shale]

There's a shadow cave near rodoroc that seems to be bugged, I'm defeating the miniboss but the floor only opens to stone rather than a tunnel to another area. Coordinates 1250, -5442

[manic basin]

they look unclickable

[teal radish]

yep I reported that one on beta

[olive shale]

Amazing

[teal radish]

and for some reason they decide to release the update rather than fixing major bugs like that

[manic basin]

i still really wish we could get an in game map that shows where we are going that way we can tp easier to a town. or at least have the site map sync and show waypoints automatically

[calm lark]

maybe somthing that show how many more chests/objectives players need to find to finish a cave, so people would know there is somthing they missed before going to an end of the cave

[pallid kestrel]

Whoever design this quest book is a design god and needs a raise 💀💀

[ebon garnet]

also can chest api be public again now, thanks

[void nova]

Crimson effigy is acting up apparently so I should make a bug report that theres a chance that the crimson effigy's will not spawn when uprooting the totem (despite having it. Happens when you start a lootrun / raid sometimes, or just out of nowhere if you change reliks)

[trim elbow]

totem can summon puppets in the ground

[void nova]

at least its dps is good again

or at least more acceptable

[trim elbow]

how is that. even remotely relevant

[void nova]

because dmg

[trim elbow]

????

not at all relevant to a bug with totem summons but ok

[teal radish]

💀

why did they release this update with so many bugs unfixed

[lost talon]

Unfixed

[wary portal]

you’ll barely notice it

[vocal fulcrum]

Shadow Altar bugged

[teal radish]

yup I reported that on beta

[subtle prairie]

unfortunate!

[woeful grail]

WHERE ARE MY GUILD STARS!!!!!!!

[ocean peak]

Definitely very questionable that they really wanted to get the update out by a certain date instead of fixing most of the pre existing beta bugs

I guess they just really wanted to get their summer update out for people to play

Which is somewhat understandable

[teal radish]

they could have done a public beta then, in fact I thought they would

[fringe mortar]

Can the req on the leftmost tomeslot (currently quest req) be changed to something else that isn't continuously locked every patch? This is really annoying (and i can imagine that this can void someones tomes if they log onto a new patch when their inventory is full.)

[vocal coral]

are chests rn 3 days chests

if so it feels incredibly useless for endgame now which seems pretty bad for something u have to wait 3 days to do, really removes a lot of exploring. especially for early game new players, at least for me when i was first starting out exploring caves and finding chests was how i explored the world and got at-level loot and made some small money.

[digital pendant]

There should be a menu that saves your reward chest if you didn't claim it in time, it's very annoying to lose your loot because of a crash.

[fathom gale]

most toxic hole ever.. it even has a plant above so i cant tp out

i got out after the mobs beat my ass enough but bruh

[teal radish]

yet another thing I reported on beta that was neglected to get fixed before release…💀

a funny with that is instead of the hole, sometimes it’s a chest that the plant is growing on

[gentle sable]

It looks like every other resources in the area

[shell sky]

for the love of god PLEASE LET ME USE MY HORSE IN LOOTRUNS!!!

[candid prawn]

Oh yeah about that

Wasn’t there a bug or something that led them to disabling the horses

@cunning verge

[shell sky]

apparently it was to stop players from being able to move in the 5s window that the lootrun starts in

[candid prawn]

?????

[shell sky]

this is what i heard when i brought it up last

[candid prawn]

Why not just disable horses during that five seconds

[shell sky]

or why disable them at all? who cares its literally 5 seconds

[candid prawn]

Lol

Or, hell, even better, just make it so that the location the player is counting down in isn’t suitable for spawning in a horse

[lone leaf]

yea idk why it isn’t that lmfao

[late patrol]

i got 2 bracelets from taking the tower quest

[void nova]

Crimson effigy breaks in raids / LR’s by not spawning when you uproot the totem, they did it guys they removed shaman.

[candid prawn]

Lol

Also why did you reply to that message with that

[regal pewter]

I acc had that bug for a bit then /classed and it fixed so idk what triggered it exactly

[shut grotto]

-Ophanim doesn't proc burning sigil like patch note said

-skill points don't go past 64 in the menu

-lootrun screen/menu sometimes disappears no clue why or how but it doesn't reappear on starting a new lootrun (maybe on death, server restart or logout login)?

[rare sedge]

Burning sigil still didn't get fixed? I thought it was in beta hotfix 3

[fathom gale]

is the drop rate of the statue keys in statue cave supposed to be absolute dog ?

[pallid onyx]

i have the same problem

i literally failed the lootrun multipule times bc they just did not drop keys

[ebon grail]

Fixed next patch

[pallid onyx]

where do you see what the next patch will be?

[ebon grail]

I’m CT

[fathom gale]

real

[fiery scarab]

this cave in in Olux swamp is impossible to complete, you need to kill 5 mobs but only 3 spawn

the respawning is VERY slow

its not impossible it just takes very long (maybe due to lag)

[tropic wing]

The toxic slime cave is dumb if ur doing it on warrior, When u kill the mob that u have to kill before u it turns into a hostile mob again it turns into a bat. That bat will go to the ceiling if u are using uppercut which warriors mainly use. Can we maybe not make it a bat

[light pivot]

ye thats annoying

i just get it with air shout cuz my build has it

[tropic wing]

Also why is the chest limit still 36? I feel like you can easily add another page for more pulls

[sleek valley]

so, the way it works

any pulls above 36, it removes the worst pulls

so you don't get more items necessarily, but youll generally get better ones

[light pivot]

oh so going above 36 isnt useless

[sleek valley]

yea

[light pivot]

thats good

[sleek valley]

it should probably be made more clear ingame if its not already

[tropic wing]

Ah ic, I thought my extra 12 pulls just got wasted lmao

[sleek valley]

i thought it was but if people are confused it probably isnt

[light pivot]

ye

i mean i just kinda expected there 2 be a second page if u went above the max for one page but after there wasnt i was just confused

[shut grotto]

i did 15 min of hitting enemies with 0 burning sigils

[regal plank]

Is there a (public) ranked list of how good each item tier/powder tier/emerald stack/etc is compared to others? As in, out of a random assortment of pulls, which will get replaced first?

[vocal coral]

are the chests rn "3 days" or 30 minutes?
do you haveto open a chest to start its loot generation cycle?

[untold junco]

Chests refill after 30 minutes, then their loot improves at the 18h and 3d marks

The timer starts from the moment you open the chest

[vocal coral]

ah so all chests you open for the first time are 30 minutes no matter what?

[untold junco]

Yes. They do refresh if they're part of a spelunk challenge during a lootrun but otherwise they're 30 minutes

[flat surge]

everytime when pressing on Realm of light 3

[gentle sable]

what's your ign? where exactly?

oh

[flat surge]

?

[gentle sable]

nvm i'll forward that, i just realized what the issue was

[flat surge]

and yeah, actually falling thru the map not visual bug

STILL FALLING

[pallid kestrel]

The loot chests don't count for daily or guild obejctive

💀 so much bugs

[flat surge]

lets not talk about the quest book, which crashed me 10 times today

[light pivot]

dam impossible daily

what

[austere rampart]

That can happen. ive had one with just one item in it

[fiery scarab]

this cave does not spawn a reward chest for completing it

how is reclaiming the house still broken

even after like 2 years

[vocal coral]

so is this on every class, no matter how long you wait the first time you open a chest it will always be ass?

[fiery scarab]

this cave also does not spawn a chest upon completion

[fiery scarab]

eyeball forest slay mission doesnt give a chest

[trim elbow]

it does sometimes

[fathom gale]

is it normal that some times after geting a green beacon my time just sudenly shortens?

earlier i got a +940 seconds beacon which put me at 30 minutes and no more than 5m inutes later i had 14 minutes left

(also is the drop rate for mythics and shiny mythics publicly know or is it a top secret 🥺)

[fiery scarab]

I think there is a max time

[teal radish]

for some reason the timer is now capped at 15 minutes

[light pivot]

y

[teal radish]

I think its probably a bug to do with clockworker or lootrun cooldown

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/all-my-2-0-3-suggestions.309354/

^ my massive feedback post

[glad ermine]

The witch where the giant is, in that cave when the witch dies she flies up and it’s hard to kill. + i’ve had times where i killed the bat and she got stuck in the wall above, which meant i couldn’t kill it. ik i can /class but it’s annoying nevertheless. oh and statue cave only drops like 2 stones so i have to /class multiple times :/

[teal radish]

yeah the bat issue was reported basically at start of beta, why they didnt fix it for release i have no clue

[glad ermine]

the worst part is when she gets stuck in the all above. It’s impossible to kill with warrior in that scenario.

[lost talon]

I use air shout to do it

[granite sequoia]

If you die and you didn't enter any city after entering the farmer Bylvis area where you free the cows in the quest tunnel trouble, you'll respawn in the quest and have to do it all over again even if you already have it completed.

Since you can re-start the quest multiple times, you also can complete the quest mutliple times even though you already got the rewards for completing it once.

Really annoying bug

[queen kiln]

I'm sure its being worked on but i figured I'd put this in here, it happened right after I got the movement ability/speed bug. Otherwise, update is fun 🙂

[teal radish]

It’s probably cuz you’re not using morph

[queen kiln]

see thats where youre wrong
my shaman was morph

[teal radish]

oh lol

[vital raft]

If you do challenges you get from red beacons they won't affect your timer at all, if you do normal challenges that usually add time to your clock but you have more than 15 minutes it just sets it to 15 minutes

What this means is if you stack loads of red and green beacons you can extend your time lots but otherwise it's capped at 15 mins

[teal radish]

did they say the 15 min cap is intended?

cuz it wasnt like that on beta

[vital raft]

If it wasn't like that on beta it's probably intended

[granite sequoia]

Misadventure on the sea is impossible to start

[teal radish]

it could be a bug due to the cap on clockworker or the 15min cooldown

[pallid kestrel]

Nerf this rates bro, my friend got like 7 unid nirvanas today in 12 hrs playtime 💀

Thankfully i got a pity nirvana for free bro but still

[silver siren]

Not this again

[quiet lark]

Not this again bro

[trim elbow]

bat has done that since that cave was released wdym “start of this beta”

[modern pier]

Lmao

[crystal lantern]

sure its been an issue since the cave released, but im assuming what they meant was that it also got reported at the start of beta due to an influx of people testing new lootrunning

[modern pier]

He said when it got reported, not when it was bugged

[sleek valley]

should be better as of the latest patch on new worlds

[crystal lantern]

the bat? yipee

whenenver i get that cave i always have to swap to using bash to kill the bat phases since flying kick, whirlwind strike, & war scream all pull/push things and send the bat flying into the ceiling

its like slapping it with a wet napkin considering the state of bash

[trim elbow]

y’all can’t be seriously thinking that something like that has been off since 1.19 and never reported until now

[modern pier]

We didnt have to kill it until now, right?

[crystal lantern]

sure it was reported then, but it also mustve been reported recently is what they meant

i realized that confusion couldve been made and edited my initial response to include the word also to try and prevent that

not trying to disagree at all, i totally think its been reported in the past
its just, a bunch of people were suddenly forced to deal with it because of new lootrunning and it surely was reported again due to that fact

[trim elbow]

also btw you do realize fully upgraded bash is higher mult than uppercut right

[crystal lantern]

my build has base bash

not a bash build

[trim elbow]

ok so it’s not a problem with the state of bash just ur build

[crystal lantern]

well, its a problem with the state of non thunderclap bash is what i meant

did not clarify that before mb

i do wish the gap between no thunderclap & having thunderclap was a bit less large

even while having most the bash upgrades, without thunderclap or proccing massive bash its just a tiny line that takes a good few seconds to come out fully

[teal radish]

yeah but it was reported as a bug at the start of beta, I don’t think anyone bothered reporting it before beta since the bat could be killed easily without HP scaling

[silver siren]

Yea

[pallid kestrel]

Bruh if it was reported at the start of beta why it's not fixed

isn't that what beta is for in the first place bruh

[trim elbow]

(it was reported before)

[pallid kestrel]

should've been fixed earlier then

[buoyant coyote]

corrupted decrepit sewers first stage door requires token but no token drops,corrupted ice barrows have rooms where the progress rooms are empty holes that lets u fall out of the map and the 3 miniboss token collector is broken,not sure if this is just a me issue or other ppl have the same problem too

[teal radish]

well ok
even more reason for it to have been fixed by now then

[teal radish]

I think other people were experiencing that too

[teal radish]

for real

[silver siren]

https://tenor.com/view/persona5-persona-ryuji-for-real-gif-24281518

[rough dock]

EXP chest didnt appear after I beat this cave

There are like, one more other cave that I can remember that the special chest didnt apear

And I wonder what happened if I didnt open it

[candid prawn]

Wait a minute I thought only 1 creature ever escaped and evaded capture

[peak willow]

can someone address shadestepper vanish cooldown? :3 please the assassin rework was literally trickster new ability and acrobat funny

oh and shadestepper nerf

[light junco]

not just you

[vast cairn]

It will stay there until you return

[fathom gale]

this is very frustrating.. just lost a really good run cuz the tornados in the bone monstrosity room spawned when i was fighting the ghast because there was another player that was on the last wave and i got comboed

[rare sedge]

Some boons aren't still running correctly, like the weaken enemy one

[fathom gale]

also why the fuck are mobs able to still attack me when i open a chest

[vocal stone]

assassin has been a balance nightmare since 2.0 started and it will continue be the case for a while

[peak willow]

Very sad indeed

[fathom gale]

also the chests are so sad with ems

[plain stump]

Can there be an option for the previous quest book design? This new one hurts my eyes and it’s harder to find the quests and what not

[civic plinth]

arachnid's ascent is broken.

[quiet lark]

ok

[plain stump]

to add onto this. maybe darken the colours and make the book save your last preferences

[crystal lantern]

content book is definitely different in comparison with the quest book, its much more vibrant and has way more space and all. its something ill have to adjust to a bit more but ive come to like it so far

can totally understand why others would outright dislike it, thats just my personal opinion

[plain stump]

i just feel a bit blindsighted

ive been using the questbook since like 2017.. to have it change so much and not expect it

[hard heron]

^ tbh why didn't they just add tabs to the old questbook

[plain stump]

that would be nice

i think whats jolted me the most are the colours
They kinda blend together and it makes it hard to see, especially with the light background

[rapid gale]

could there possibly be a way to completely block out every single player in the game

when i am lootrunning and there are 4 people also lootrunning it can cause lag in some things especially the destroy challenge

(speaking of the destroy challenge plz nerf it 😭

[fathom gale]

Wym that's the easiest one

[robust shore]

/stream

[young ore]

Wtf it’s the best one !!!!!!!!

[fathom gale]

He is using monster solo war build with statue

No wonder he hates it

[young ore]

Oh well

That’s literally just his fault then

[fathom gale]

Caul

I got 161 pulls 14 rerolls earlier and got a nirvana

[young ore]

Get on that cascade pandemonium build brother it’ll be light work

[fathom gale]

But kept rerolling and ended up with 10 le

[rapid gale]

phage 😭

[rapid gale]

wait it does that?? ok ig im doing it

[fathom gale]

The rpoblem is you are riftbender and that archetype sucks

[young ore]

Fake

[rapid gale]

i cannot really run anything without heals on my wifi

[fathom gale]

I'm melting everything with arcanist

[young ore]

Pure Riftwalker would unironically be best archetype for that destroy shit

Single target damag 😋 yumshot

[fathom gale]

No cuz my arcanist will kill it before you stack winded

[young ore]

Fake fake fake

[rapid gale]

in the lantern and destroy challenges im just stuck walking around unable to cast any spells while i get killed .-.

[fathom gale]

Riftbender issue

[young ore]

Get off monster ❌ live a little

[rapid gale]

cal do you want to buy me a warp

otherwise idk what you want

[rapid gale]

do you want to buy me a wifi router

[young ore]

???? Hello

Mythicless mage

Why is your jump from monster a warp

[rapid gale]

does cascade do more than monster 💀 i really hope not

[fathom gale]

takne send me ur monster build rq

[young ore]

Of course it does why wouldn’t it it just doesn’t get 40 def and 4K hp

[fathom gale]

i want to see that monstrosity

[rapid gale]

its the esi monster hq build (the public build) but instead of statue i have phage

[fathom gale]

i literaly gave him a monster build with 22k meteors 1k life steal 44k ehp and 100% walk speed and he still dont want to play arcanist 😭

[rapid gale]

💀 i need like 8k life steal on this internet

[young ore]

ok but you didnt give him pandemonium cascade !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rapid gale]

can i see the pandemonium cadeacde

[fathom gale]

pandemonium

[young ore]

no (i dont ahve it on hand)

[rapid gale]

can u dm it later then

[young ore]

no (i dont know where id get it id have to remember)

[fathom gale]

takne it probably has 20k ehp so you wont like it anyway

[young ore]

^^^^

[rapid gale]

yea the other issue is that i like big chunky ehp which most players do not like

[fathom gale]

earlier i had 970k ehp

wdym we dont like to be chonky, i love being chonky

[young ore]

less than me

I had the mostest earlier

[fathom gale]

how many rolls did you get on that run

[young ore]

none I onoly just logged on for the day

[fathom gale]

??

[young ore]

less than me

i had the mostest earlier

[fathom gale]

how is that less than none

shut up cal you are 🧢

[young ore]

womp womp

[light pivot]

corrupted ice barrows last room just does not work

i put in the blue tokens and nothing happens

[half pike]

wtf why does that have tokens still

thats like the one dungeon tokens are painful on

[light pivot]

my question is why does putting the tokens in in last room do literally nothing

[glad ermine]

but there’s not even that much space in the reward chest, does it just remove the lower quality items and means you get more better stuff? or

[light pivot]

thats what the CT person i asked about it said it did

[glad ermine]

oh okay, nice

[half pike]

if you have more than 36, it still rolls your total amount, but it removes the worst items

[teal radish]

I hope they change that

kind of dumb if someone’s trying to get a specific unique item

[half pike]

interesting

[sleek valley]

in what way

[light pivot]

pls fix CIB i would like to be actually able to do full forgery

[teal radish]

I played the new quest line last night and it seemed pretty fine

[real berry]

add shiny filter to tm

[civic plinth]

if your inventory is full, or you may die while carrying the supply crate it disappears

[sleek valley]

hmm. ok

[civic plinth]

or just never shows up in your inventory. /fixquests does not work. /kill does not work. its not in your bank, other characters, talking back to Cob does nothing. you're just stuck. I had to make an entire new character and level up JUST to finish it on my mage

[sleek valley]

ill see what i can do

[buoyant coyote]

corrupted betryal quest broken, the sheep that needs to be lured will disappear halfway

[dusk cobalt]

Shaman is literally unplayable unless you use a full Ritualist build I'm finding. It just can't solo mobs if there is any sort of server lag now

its also super annoying that scrolling off your weapon onto a potion despawns the totem

[jovial oriole]

Yeah, shaman totem should act like Jasmine Bloom and basaltic traps where it lingers even if you swap off your weapon

[dusk cobalt]

only problem with that I can think of is with the acolyte (right tree) build. It drains your health over time when its out but they could maybe make it so you can despawn it by shifting and casting totem

but yeah it needs to linger it just ruins the class

the entire class revolves around an object that isn't even persistent when you scroll of your weapon

[tender carbon]

Bro the economy is dying and all these mfs can think of is shaman

[bronze prism]

if you'll tell us what needs fixing then perhaps

[light pivot]

when u put in the blue tokens into the thing that takes blue tokens nothing happens

[bronze prism]

is this the bug from ages ago where you put all three blue tokens in and it only takes one

[light pivot]

no its not that

[sleek valley]

no i think the hologram just doesnt appear

[light pivot]

ik how to go around that and did that

i even did one by one

[bronze prism]

the hologram disappeared between yesterday and today?

[sleek valley]

nvm im wrong probably

[light pivot]

idk i assume it has broken when the update came out

[sleek valley]

something's broken though

[light pivot]

its def not just the hologram being missing cuz if it was just that it would have worked when i was in the dungeon

[bronze prism]

this is weird, I did it just yesterday and found only one issue, which was some missing blocks, that I replaced and fixed

[sleek valley]

did it change the xs to the checkmarks as you put them in

[light pivot]

there were no xs to see

hologram isnt there

i tried switching worlds and /class it was still very broken

[bronze prism]

but

[sleek valley]

i see why

[bronze prism]

you just said the problem wasn't the hologram being missing

[light pivot]

i said it wasnt just the hologram missing

[bronze prism]

oh, also why are you in completely the wrong room

[light pivot]

old screenshot

meant to send this one not that one

maps kinda broken in places too

in the room where tons of mobs spawn and u need 32 tokens to open a door

[sleek valley]

it isnt working because the hologram is missing due to technical issues. fixed it for next map push

[light pivot]

many holes

[bronze prism]

yeah that was the thing I fixed

which will also be fixed for next map push

[light pivot]

whens that

[bronze prism]

though someone said that somehow falling into that hole was also multiplying the mob spawns notbly such that there were 3000 entities in that room only

[light pivot]

whoa

[bronze prism]

and I have no idea what could possibly be causing that in specific

[light pivot]

i didnt go down that one i only went down the one on the exit of that room

[unreal robin]

I haven’t done new forge have for cid do they still have the run room the gets glitched when 2 people go at once, the run timer is 1/4 of what it should be and is almost impossible to not make it unless you gave 200 walk speed or warp tp spam.

[vast osprey]

revert the update

[young ore]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/759850143926976524/960576450652676126/20220222_163558.gif

[vast osprey]

that is me

[tawny haven]

https://i.imgur.com/zhm6aNQ.png lol

[young ore]

wh

Lost Sanc fragment real

[sleek valley]

yea im aware

its not something that i can fix atm

needs dev work

[teal radish]

it’s also not constructive feedback

lol

[vocal stone]

this isn’t constructive feedback

[sleek valley]

can we not

do the "buh this isnt constructive feedback" thing

[tropic wing]

I just did a 106 challanges run and got 500 xp while someone that did 16 get 320. I feel like u should get more

[sleek valley]

it has a cap of 500

per run

+100 if its your first run in a day iirc

[tawny haven]

idk where else to bring this up so

[sleek valley]

bug reports

[buoyant coyote]

when will the bugs that surfaced from the 2.0.3 be hotfixed?

like an est, just curious

[sleek valley]

theyre gradually getting hotfixed each day

[buoyant coyote]

oh the fixes arent all released at once?

[sleek valley]

well we're fixing them as we go

[buoyant coyote]

will the problems with the forgery dungeons be fixed soon?

[sleek valley]

yes

CIB needs a map push so it might not be today

which others are broken

[buoyant coyote]

CDS the first room requires token but no mobs drop tokens there

as for the rest i think others will know more than me about it

[sleek valley]

ik we're aware of cds. not sure if it's been fixed yet but if it hasnt it will be soon

[buoyant coyote]

and the corrupted betrayal quest, the slime sheep disappears halfway all the time

oh and last question, where do i formally submit bug reports?

[sleek valley]

#contact_staff has the link at the very top

[buoyant coyote]

alrighty, thank you for your time sir!

oh yeah for CIB not only does the map have problems, i managed to get to the 3 miniboss room and

[sleek valley]

yeah the 3 miniboss room also needs a map push

[buoyant coyote]

the altar that collects the 3 blue tokens are broken as well

[granite sequoia]

one of the early game quests needs to give yahyas stained bowl im at TOL right now and I can't do it because no quests gave a bowl

[sleek valley]

you should be able to continue the stage even without the bowl

tol will get a proper fix soon but for now you should still be able to continue

just have the other 2 items for that stage

[granite sequoia]

nope, I have the Corrupted potato and matlics reccomendation letter, tried clicking on kelight and it says do not waste my time

[sleek valley]

mm

alright

well, like i said, will get a proper fix soon

[granite sequoia]

alright

[glad ermine]

@sleek valley I see some people have a scoreboard on the side where it tells you time left and how many challenges you've completed etc for the lr camps. How do I get this? I'm using fabric artemis if that helps..

[fiery scarab]

update it

the mod

[vocal coral]

does anyone know how beacon limits work

• limit to orange stack
• can only choose white or grey once
• limit to how many aquas / greens you can pick?
• dark grey is super rare?

[fiery scarab]

1. 2 oranges per run max
2. yes
3. aquas I think 5, but might have been changed since beta. green idk, I've never picked enough to know
4. yes, they are not guaranteed to show up even with +8 beacon choices
   I also know that some beacons stop showing up after a certain point (even if you didn't pick them) so there's that

[glad ermine]

what mod?!

[fiery scarab]

artemis

[glad ermine]

it’s already 1.19.4??

explain pls

[fiery scarab]

well I'm using artemis and its working for me cause i updated it

[glad ermine]

how did you update it? like explain

[fiery scarab]

also artemis isnt 1.19.4, mc is 1.19.4. just go to the site/curseforge/wherever you got it and download the newest version

[glad ermine]

so i need a new artemis launcher?

installer* or whatverr

[fiery scarab]

idk what ur using just update it it really shouldnt be that hard

[glad ermine]

are you using curseforge?

[fiery scarab]

yes

[glad ermine]

ok ty

[vocal coral]

ah ok i think the beacons stop showing up after a certain point might be what i experienced

lack of greens 😭

[pallid kestrel]

What’s the reasoning behind chest change bro

[fiery scarab]

which one

[pallid kestrel]

The se chest i heard

Idol got removed

Did a ct get death threats from some angry tryhard or what bruhhh i wanted that idol

[sleek valley]

pretty sure it was unintended

[fiery scarab]

it wasnt just idol, it was the entire chest that basically got rerolled

[pallid kestrel]

Yea the chest is the same to me but it got changed for others

[fiery scarab]

I really dont think devs care if an overpriced mythic becomes cheaper

[glad ermine]

yea i think it’s stupid that it got changed and then it got changed again a few hours later for no reason, it should be reverted

[fiery scarab]

idol has been horribly inflated for a while and nobody except idol owners think it should stay that way

[pallid kestrel]

Yea i cant even afford 1/5 of an idol that is shit

[glad ermine]

idol prices should crash 100%

40stx for an unid idol is stupid

[light pivot]

i cant scrap cosmetics for some reason

[tender smelt]

are they gonna reverse it

[glad ermine]

doesnt seem like it

[tender smelt]

best game design

[sleek valley]

idol will be back eventually

[lone leaf]

don’t think there is a way to do it

but tbh it’s not like this won’t happen two more times in the week

[sleek valley]

i dont think it will actually

[pallid kestrel]

this is definitly one of the updates of all time

[lone leaf]

epic

oops ping

[tender smelt]

how did it even happen

[sleek valley]

unclear!

[lone leaf]

i have been told the way i thought it happened is wrong so who knows

[sleek valley]

im sure the devs know what caused it but ive got no clue

[lone leaf]

pretty good for me though i get more time to sell my idol

lol

[pallid kestrel]

💀

[unreal robin]

What’s going on are items being destroyed/lost again?

[sleek valley]

the lootrun pools were rerolled for the weak earlier today, and idol was included as one of the available mythics. but then, later in the day, certain worlds had an entirely different loot pool than earlier

[rare sedge]

Well, even the short presence tanked it's price by half

[pallid kestrel]

Im so confused, how does the pool randomly reroll like 1 hour 53 mins in bruh. It’s certainly not lag or a timer problem

[trim elbow]

they pushed a patch

[sleek valley]

we also pushed a patch yesterday and it didnt reroll the pool so im not sure if thats the real cause

[rare sedge]

Spaghetti coding

[cunning verge]

Every time a patch gets pushed the chest is rerolled

[sleek valley]

not true

[cunning verge]

That's just how patches work. It's basically a new update to the chest creates a new pool as if it was just added

[cunning verge]

it's so totally true

[sleek valley]

no. there was a patch recently and it didnt reroll

[cunning verge]

you can't trick me lex I have seen into the matrix

[sleek valley]

there was a patch last night and it didnt reroll

[cunning verge]

idk then. probably patches related to the chest reroll it then

or just lootruns in general, like mob balancing

[tropic wing]

Idk but u guys should rr it again. It's trash

[sleek valley]

no

[tender smelt]

this is the worst update that has happened while I have been playing

[fathom gale]

best update ever

[silver siren]

They improved an entire part of the endgame to be actual fun but ok

Pre-2.0.3 lootrunners when they have to do more than click chests:

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-shouting-tantrums-crying-girl-gif-16422563

[vocal stone]

not saying much 💀

[candid prawn]

Conversely, this might be my favorite update even compared to the major ones

[pliant matrix]

This update is the best since 1.19

[tender smelt]

hey guys don't get mad this is also the only update that's happened while I've been playing

[teal radish]

so its also the best update that's happened while you've been playing

[tender smelt]

yeah

but imo this update has done more harm than good

[teal radish]

how so

[silver siren]

Yea what

It made a core endgame activity actually…. Good?

[tender smelt]

I mean I am a bit biased here since I did have most of my assets in mythics but crashing the market of a few mythics every week just isn't good

[silver siren]

Economy always gets fucked when an update drops

[tender smelt]

and also it feels a little disappointing since it isn't really actual content

[tender smelt]

ok but items shouldn't just just have their price cut in half from a single day, all they had to do was add more mythics to the loot pool or make everyone's loot pool different

[sleek valley]

i mean. it isnt a major update

[crystal lantern]

lootrunning isnt even the entire update anyways, i really appreciated the early game changes

[silver siren]

I mean some of those mythics were way overpriced anyways

[tender smelt]

yeah ik but for the economy to be so bad when it could've been easily balanced better

[sleek valley]

was responding to the "actual content" bit

[cunning verge]

What.

[silver siren]

Yea……

[cunning verge]

Saying new lootruns isn't content is like saying raids aren't content

[tender smelt]

yeah I'm just saying they didn't have to crash a few items at a time

[silver siren]

Lootruns are much more like content now than they were before

[teal radish]

don't you know? the only content in wynncraft is AFKing in detlas (real)

[silver siren]

Lootrunning needed an update for literal years so its about time it happened

[cunning verge]

ok true

[silver siren]

And bullying people in #1019649786799996980

[ocean peak]

I think there’s a large possibility salted intended for mythics to become easier to get now and people will just have to live with that

[cunning verge]

will add an afk detlas leaderboard

[teal radish]

lol

[cunning verge]

that was our intention yeah

[tender smelt]

what about afk lutho

[silver siren]

Due to the large power gap of mythics and legos it makes sense they would be easier to get

[tender smelt]

yeah the only problem is that it should've been a much larger variety of mythics

[ocean peak]

I don’t mind it, and if anything I prefer it this way but I understand people being upset over how drastically it changes the economy

[cunning verge]

we wanted Mythics to become more easily accessible, not like free candy or anything, but not locked behind a lot of grinding that blocks off players from having access to a lot of builds

[silver siren]

Newbies with lego only build are left in the dust by mythic builds

[cunning verge]

It is?

[tender smelt]

I'm just wondering why everyone had the exact same lootpool and such a small one at that

[teal radish]

it took me way too long to realize that legos meant legendaries

[cunning verge]

All mythics are included as being able to be in the chest pool

[sleek valley]

on a given week its only a specific # of mythics available

is what theyre talking about

[tender smelt]

yes but every week those mythics are just going to crash in price while others stay high

[sleek valley]

ultimately itll stabilize at some point

[tender smelt]

instead of crashing a few prices at a time it couldve been lowering all prices slowly

[silver siren]

Me watching Warp crash in price by 50% (now I can finally do funny build as well)

[teal radish]

mythics crashing in price is very funny

[cunning verge]

Eventually you'll have shiny mythics take the previous role high value mythics had

[ocean peak]

Every mythic is gonna come out eventually

[unreal robin]

I haven’t been able to check are disco prices also trash now?

[silver siren]

Disco in general is less useful

[cunning verge]

They're far rarer than normal mythics ever were but they don't lock important items behind super super rich players

[silver siren]

So ofc they are gonna drop a bit

[unreal robin]

Ooof that’s a rip my networth moment

[ocean peak]

Are tier ten pouches still a one in a nonillion chance

[cunning verge]

Yes

[sleek valley]

prolly

[silver siren]

Why

[ocean peak]

Guh

[sleek valley]

shrug

[cunning verge]

Tier X pouches are fucking insane btw they have a double chest inventory worth of slots

[unreal robin]

Tier 11 when?

[silver siren]

Me when a bag is rarer than god roll mythics

[sleek valley]

thats not how that works

[cunning verge]

It's just the way pouch levels were coded, it's rarity comes from the fact there's like fucking nowhere where it can spawn in a chest

[teal radish]

to make discoverer useful again, it should have a major ID that instantly discovers all discoveries when you put it on

[sleek valley]

its 4stx max for the t10 pouch

[cunning verge]

I gave myself one to check it out and the GUI is humongous

[sleek valley]

yea

[crystal lantern]

pouches compress emeralds & t10's have a limit

[silver siren]

buys disco, slaps it on, sells it immediately

[sleek valley]

the gui is big. its still 4stx max

[cunning verge]

I know it's 4stx max but the GUI is HUGE it's COMICAL

[silver siren]

Almost as big as my ||scythe||

[crystal lantern]

here is an entire double chest worth of space have fun using about 5 slots of it

[tender smelt]

hero or archangel

[crystal lantern]

saltroll

[cunning verge]

yeah lmfao

[ocean peak]

There only being a select few mythics per lootrun location will also be less of an issue in the future when molten heights and sky islands inevitably get one

[cunning verge]

Especially because it auto converts so you never see it even remotely close to full

[silver siren]

The actual weapon, scythe

[cunning verge]

Max you'll get is 6 slots full 😭

[tender smelt]

im just saying it was introduced pretty poorly

[ocean peak]

Idk I think it’s fine

[cunning verge]

fruma lootrun

[tender smelt]

personally i think nirv epoch quetz alka going down by like 60% is not a good thing

[teal radish]

bloomi lootrun when

[silver siren]

It’ll balance out, plus fruma might make all current mythics useless so 🤷‍♀️

[crystal lantern]

i await the day idol crashes so i can finally get my hands on one

[ocean peak]

I mean that is just new lootrun economy for you

[tender smelt]

wouldve been today but...

funny reset happened

[crystal lantern]

yeah somthin happened with the chest

[cunning verge]

I don't know why people think it was like

[ocean peak]

I think it would be really funny if we just never allowed idol into the chest

[cunning verge]

staff intentionally getting rid of idol

[crystal lantern]

silly

[silver siren]

ITS A COVERUP, STAFF ACTUAL HAVE 100s OF IDOLS AND WANTED TO SELL THEM SO THEY RESET IT

[cunning verge]

I will revel the day idol shows up and it drops or I can get one. I played around with an idol bmonk on GM and I got addicted to the gameplay

[ocean peak]

Funny spear that makes you drown yourself

Or was that lament I don’t remember

[tender smelt]

lol wtf the idol world still hasnt reset

[teal radish]

Idol my beloved

[ocean peak]

They keep throwing bombs on it that’s why

[cunning verge]

Idol is drowning yourself

[crystal lantern]

ive had fun with the new mythic rates, in my several years of wynn i only ever managed to find a galleon & ashock but i attained like 4 mythics in beta and i've found a nirvana on live so far

[ocean peak]

So the world doesn’t want to restart

[cunning verge]

Beta had higher rates

[crystal lantern]

yeah i sensed that

[cunning verge]

but they're still definitely easier to access

[crystal lantern]

still i found a nirv in 2 days of live coming out i consider that a W

[silver siren]

TM goblins when they can’t sell Warp for 20stx

[crystal lantern]

i dont even have red beacons unlocked yet

[teal radish]

It's really cool that you can go for the mythic you want now rather than just running till you get enough mythics to sell to buy it

[cunning verge]

I think the hoarder should ask for you to give mythics instead of ingredients like boar meat or confectionaries

[teal radish]

hoarder making OP build to take over the void

[crystal lantern]

maybe one day i'll get my hands on a shiny guardian, my beloved

im pretty content with my 6900 hp 696 hpr guard though

[teal radish]

shiny guardian with damage reduced (ik thats not a shiny stat but it should be added exclusively for guardian)

[crystal lantern]

i would love a 'Damage Mitigated' tracker

[teal radish]

yea

[cunning verge]

do you think mint condition or high number stats on shinies would go for more

[crystal lantern]

no clue

[teal radish]

probably high number

[cunning verge]

I imagine higher stats yeah

mint might be more of a collector thing though

[crystal lantern]

i would imagine a number in-between mint & high number would be less sought-after

[teal radish]

I mean most mythics sold are gonna be mint

[crystal lantern]

like 6 dungeons won or smtn

[teal radish]

dungeons won is kinda 💀

[cunning verge]

selling a shiny with a Salted Kisses: 2

I think mob kills will be the most sought after stat

[crystal lantern]

yeah

[teal radish]

yeah that or raids

[crystal lantern]

what part of the game does not include killing mobs right

[cunning verge]

I was gonna say profs but

[teal radish]

larbonic geode jumpscares?

[cunning verge]

then I remembered I literally made a bunch of mobs for profs

even getting ingredients is usually mob grinding

afking in detlas doesn't include mob kills 💪

[teal radish]

imagine prof levels gained tracker

[crystal lantern]

damage dealt stat tracker when

[cunning verge]

it would have to be measured as number K,M,B,T,QD,QNT,SX(would sell the most),SP,OC,DEC

[teal radish]

times died tracker

[cunning verge]

69 sextillion damage dealt shiny mythics would be insane

[crystal lantern]

spells casted tracker

[ocean peak]

The macro abusers will love that

[teal radish]

imagine that on arcanist with sorcery and madness

[crystal lantern]

time held/worn tracker

[teal radish]

yeah afking to farm that lmao

[tender smelt]

if its a stat like ms on divzer then yeah

[ocean peak]

Tbh I am kinda sad that stat tracks are limited to shiny mythics only

[shell nymph]

make a clear warning that whatever you don't claim from an end result chest will be voided... 😭

[subtle prairie]

Lootrun XP overflow leaderboard please 🙏

[silver siren]

It works like basically every other reward chest in the game

[fathom gale]

who said normal chests are bad now

(its not a normal chest but still )

[quiet lark]

i dont see purple thats a pretty bad chest

[fathom gale]

real

the actual bad part is that it had 5 emeralds in it

[fathom gale]

that moment when u get rainbow beacon first beacon and then 5 times in a row u get yellow purple's with no orange

[rare sedge]

How many yellows have you stacked

[fathom gale]

none what

however the 300% LQ and 200% LB from boons are ad ifferent story

[rare sedge]

Well

[rapid gale]

ct i just wanna say tysm for this update its actually what most of us asked for
best part is definitely the fact that all the stupid inflation that came from dupes in previous months has been completely undone

and also the people with 1000stx of mythics are sad as shown from the reaction above

hi do you want to super react this message too

[tender smelt]

sadly normal nitro users only get 2 a week

[tender smelt]

its not just undone its been overdone

[fathom gale]

fr, a verage warp prices went from 14 to 30 to 7 somehow

[tender smelt]

everything dropped like 60% in a single day

[fathom gale]

btw whats the chance to get a rainbow beacon? cuz so far in my 4 lootruns since becoming master ive goten 3 rainbows

[fathom gale]

5 lootruns 4 rainbows now*

i aint seen dark grey as often as rainbow at this point

[quiet lark]

i think you just have an affiliation with rainbows

[fathom gale]

mmm yes rainbow mmm 🤤

im about to have well over 1000 effective pulls

[fathom gale]

nvm more like over 2000

[tender smelt]

you

[silver siren]

What

[pallid kestrel]

bro I would agree with this but since your breeze im obligated to disagree with u

[tender smelt]

ok please carry me in nameless raid

[pallid kestrel]

this update is great bro (it isnt)

[tender smelt]

it wouldve been good if they actually took time to balance it

they released it wayyy too early

[pallid kestrel]

Bro i think the concept is cool, just not when mythics become more like legendaries

[fathom gale]

best endgame update period

[tender smelt]

real

[tender smelt]

yeah mythics dont feel like mythics anymore so people dont even feel rewarded anymore when getting one

which kinda destroys the whole point of mythics

theyre supposed to be rare not something taht everyone can get within a few weeks of playing

[pallid kestrel]

Bro even legendaries dont feel like legendaries anymore since i was broke and investing in gale's sights, now when that shows up in the chest it'll be worth like 15eb

[tender smelt]

gale's sight 💀

[pallid kestrel]

shut up bro

[tender smelt]

my bad but yeah the point is items dont feel rare anymore and mythics dont feel like mythics anymore

[fathom gale]

bro invested in gsight

[pallid kestrel]

yea due to charge spam hero buff bruh

its a smart decision if it wouldnt be so common

[fathom gale]

it literaly drops from forgery

its as common as it gets

[pallid kestrel]

which nobody runs unless maybe once or twice for the tome

[granite sequoia]

The cyclone blue in death whistle doesn't give fall damage prevention

[silver siren]

Yea thats wrong

I know a lot of people run it, I used to do it daily and a lot of my friends did as well

[autumn lintel]

economy in shambles mashallah

[silver siren]

Classic update shenanigans

[pallid kestrel]

Its smart tho for the business, since only the 20% of the rich fellows get angry, maybe 1/4 rage quit, the rest of the 80% of the poors are happy. Good for retainment and revenue ig

Although i suspect in the future it may become a strictly silverbull subscription feature as that tends to be the case with many companys

[candid prawn]

Wait I just got here what is this referring to

[pallid kestrel]

the new lr system bro

[pallid kestrel]

it's certainly not free candy but it's as close as it gets. You run around for 30 minutes, come back and have a decent shot of getting a mythic. (or at least a lot of LEs if your unlucky with the mythic)

[young ore]

Less than me

[pallid kestrel]

you can even get up to like >20 rerolls if u get lucky

[young ore]

1.19 on release 😢

[obsidian vine]

by the time warp rolls back around the chest its gonna be under 1 stx unid, theres still 5 days and its alrdy dropped 75% to 6 stx and its just gonna keep going down. One of the best mythics being under 3 stx is absolutely crazy

[robust shore]

Wynncraft players when they can no longer feel superior for having 1000 stx of mythics

[fathom gale]

Ur mom

Is a nice lady of course

[carmine stratus]

will point out, the build requirements for effectively grinding lootruns for mythics is also up there so it will take time for the poorer side to get used to it

[young ore]

Meow meow meow

No one knows until prices stabilise

And when they do it’ll either be fine or too late so who cares

[fathom gale]

If you get lucky at the start you can vibe with 100+ challenges even using morph

[obsidian vine]

in a year unid warp will be 20 le !!!

[carmine stratus]

Since i get roughly 5 challenges in before it starts becoming more of an issue and that might be more since i keep forgetting to go for boons

[young ore]

Nom nom nom

[carmine stratus]

(or sometimes getting unlucky and just getting to pick between a curse or a yellow beacon 3 times in a row)

[fathom gale]

At that point spam purple till you can't beat it anymore and end the run

If you do t get lucky in the first 5-6 beacons then it's unlikely to be a good run anyway

[carmine stratus]

Yeah but theres definitely a build requirement. Although will say light bender just struggles at lootrunning

[young ore]

marqn big girl do you worry for the longeivity of the endgame update in question or do you think itll be ok

[carmine stratus]

Due to it being horde based more than single target

[fathom gale]

It'll be fineeee

[fathom gale]

Light ender is ass, arcanist is the best

[carmine stratus]

Lightbender is great in most situations

[young ore]

ive already seen a large few people in ano stop caring about purples as theyve gotten like 5-6 a day for 3 days

[carmine stratus]

Its just it struggles when even the weaker minions can take a lot of damage as well as deal it.

[fathom gale]

Who cares about purple

[young ore]

the people who do the lootrun

[fathom gale]

I crave rainbow, that's where I get my joy

[young ore]

i meant mythic when i said purple whoops
stupid beacons

[fathom gale]

I knoe

But I meant what I said, getting a good run is what's actually enjoyable to me

Not the reward

[young ore]

Maybe

It's something else to do whatever the outcome on the economy

[fathom gale]

ive never cared about the economy anyway

i'd rather have 50 mythics that are worth nothing than to have 100 stx that cant afford 2 mythics

[young ore]

i care about the lack of profs over these past few days...

[fathom gale]

i care about prof even less than the economy

if it doesnt bring me any joy then why should i care about it 💤

[young ore]

i cant bring myself to like profs like i used to

[granite sequoia]

Im currently softlocked in memory paranoia, at the stage where you enter the kitchen and find monsters in there, if you enter the kitchen before the quest progress says "Enter the kitchen" and leave, you get softlocked and aren't able to go back into the kitchen area with the monster in it and instead just go to the normal kitchen.

[rapid gale]

bug reports
go forums

[past falcon]

puppets from the summoner seems to get stuck on a place after attack an enemy with uproot and do not floow the player anymore

[pliant matrix]

but now they'll be able to buy guardians for war

[bright sage]

ok not this hard though

[bright sage]

i think it was necessary to chnage lootruns but the rollout and shit was not smooth at all lol and now the entire market of the game is crashing insanely insanely hard

which apparently was on purpose?? allegedly?? i dont know where the message is but i heard a staff member here said that the purpose of the update was to make mythic prices fall and that we're just in the awkward phase but i feel like there could have been a better way to go about this than just overnight decreasing everyones mythics' value to like 0

theres so much supply and currently no demand. and even when the economy settles a bit and stabilizes, im worried there will still be like a bunch of supply and very little demand, so selling your mythics becomes EVEN MORE FRUSTRATING than it already is

[eager locust]

right here

they said it right here

[bright sage]

aint no way..

[fathom gale]

you dont need to sell mythics for money that you would have used to buy other mythisc when you can just have all mythics 🧠

[eager locust]

hahahah randomly manually removing idol from the pool

manually deciding what the prices of mythics will be

i see NO problem with this, closed door policy, not telling players what the rates will be

[fathom gale]

also newsflash a 5 stx warp is as usefull as a 30 stx warp so i dont see why everyone is so outraged

[eager locust]

(( IRONY ))

[bright sage]

its more about the money part of things i think

[eager locust]

how do you know the warp you buy right now wont plummet in value in the future

[bright sage]

everyones mythics were devalued overnight

[eager locust]

how do you know the items you buy right now will still let you sell them and catch up to others in the future?

[fathom gale]

why do i care if it plummets?

[eager locust]

because if your items become worthless you cannot sell them to catch up in new updates

[fathom gale]

i got my warp for 14 stx a while ago and now its worth less than half but i dont care at all

[eager locust]

you cannot trade them for newer items or equal value items

lets say you buy a warp right now and in the next update "idol 2" becomes meta, but you can only sell it for 1/3 of the price

[bronze prism]

(question if you can just lootrun for a whole ton of LE to begin with why would you need mythics to "catch up" at all)

[fathom gale]

nope because il never buy idol

[eager locust]

because staff are litearlly manually removing mythics in the pool

[bronze prism]

I'm not personally sold on the rates myself, I think mythics should still be much rarer, but that is a genuine question

[fathom gale]

i dont care whats meta, i prefer what i like which is mage, arcanist and warp

[eager locust]

its an example, what name do you want me to use instead of "idolv2"

[fathom gale]

also what selvut said^^

[bright sage]

this update feels like, to endgame players, i just got brought back to life just to die of a heart attack a minute later

[eager locust]

it doesnt matter every time you spend le on items

[fathom gale]

personaly i dont need to know that my item is worth X amount of LE in order to have fun

[bronze prism]

what, are you buying a new alkatraz every lootrun or something?

[eager locust]

your ability to play the game in the future is up to the whim of the devs, one day they will randomly decide to remove idol in the pool, no announcement, new update chaning rates, no comments on rates

its closed door policy, do you guys know whats wrong with that?

yes but you need to buy a warp to lootrun right?

[bronze prism]

no?

[eager locust]

what?

[bronze prism]

no you don't?

[fathom gale]

you can literaly lootrun with morph the nothing

[bronze prism]

I was doing the new lootruns effectively with a Harwrol?

[bright sage]

i dont understand the convesrsation here could sm1 explain what he mean by thios (catch up to what)

[fathom gale]

right now in my lootrun im so op that i can strip naked with a depressing wand and still 1shot a boss

[bronze prism]

for moneymaking purposes, catch up as in "become not poor" or something

[fathom gale]

[eager locust]

what do you mean? if you had a car that gets to work in an hour and someone replaces your car with one that gets to work in 2 hours and says "it still works" ?

[bronze prism]

you've tried the new lootruns, right

[eager locust]

i dont even know what analogy to use for that comment

[bright sage]

yea my fault i wasnt sure what u was talkin about tho

[eager locust]

you dont buy the meta item?

[fathom gale]

ok but you do realise warp is EASIER to obtain now right ?

[eager locust]

to make money with? you dont do your best to make the most money?

[fathom gale]

mythics are more accesible than ever

your argument makes no sense

[eager locust]

my point is, you have no idea in the future what you buy right now will be able to be sold for you to replace items

[bronze prism]

surprisingly, multiple items are viable due to the nature of lootruns and "The Meta Item" isn't a particularly relevant thing to get considering how long lootruns can run for anyway

[eager locust]

because devs can just on a whim decide to manually manipulate the pool, or release an update with no info on rates or whats going to happen

[glad ermine]

you can make a bunch of LE from raids and even the camps, so I don’t see how you can’t just use that to buy new mythics?

[eager locust]

so by your logic builds dont matter at all

[fathom gale]

well i dont think the way you do so i guess it makes sense we dont agree

[bronze prism]

wrong, statement taken to a strawman extreme

[eager locust]

everyone can use harwol and morph and be just as efficient?

answer question above plz

[bright sage]

the whole thing about this update is that mythics become more accessible than ever at the cost of devaluing every mythic by 2-3x , and the question is if thats really worth it

[glad ermine]

they didn’t intentionally change the loot pool lol, they pushed an update that caused it to reset ..

[fathom gale]

if something new appears and for whatever reason i cant afford it (as if that would be the case) il just grind untill i do afford it

[bronze prism]

"there are multiple viable builds" =/= "builds don't matter whatsoever"

[eager locust]

but how will you know the value of your items in the future

[bronze prism]

you look on the market and check the prices.

[cunning verge]

We didnt and don't manually decide the pools

[eager locust]

ok so people need to buy mythics right? so when they buy these mythics now they have items

[fathom gale]

why the hell would i care? this isnt real life stock market

[eager locust]

if they have items how do they know the prices in the future

[eager locust]

because obviously in the next update you want to be able to sell your items for a reasonable amount

[glad ermine]

duke no offense but you seem like you’re not above the age of 13, it’s not that serious dude

[fathom gale]

no i dont ?

[eager locust]

if you buy items right now and they will just depreciate in value why even buy them right now

[bronze prism]

no they don't, actually

[glad ermine]

you’ll not die from mythics being slightly more common

[fathom gale]

why would i want to sell my items what ?

[eager locust]

you dont? then you will just be left behind then, and unable to replace your items to equal value

[bronze prism]

to...use them? for gameplay?

[eager locust]

to? replace them with items of equal value that you need in the future?

[fathom gale]

bro rly thinks every item in the game with get powercrept every new patch

[glad ermine]

buy the new ones lol

[bronze prism]

mythics have more purpose than being held in trust

[fathom gale]

(this isnt a gacha game btw relax that wont happen)

[eager locust]

exactly how can you play the game in the future, if you cant obtain items necessary ?

[fathom gale]

how do you think brand new players will be able to play in said update if you are somehow struggling ?

[glad ermine]

[eager locust]

if i want to use warp right now, and warp v2 comes out in the future, but my current warp is useless because of rates being manutally decided

[bright sage]

i hope that boons are heavily changed because every run feels so rng dependant on if we get good boons or not, imo nerf the buffs mobs get after every chalelnge and like remove the obviously shit boons (you know which ones) and make it like three that you can pick from. or at the start of a run you can choose if you want melee or spell boons or something (because getting strength boons n shit like that if you're on a spell build is so useless)

[bronze prism]

"getting items in a slightly less efficient way" =/= "completely unable to get items whatsoever" and you're absolutely conflating the two

[eager locust]

i cant use warpv2, suddenly all my items are worthless and i cant play? do you see whats wrong with that?

[fathom gale]

nah you are just playing it wrong

[bright sage]

would u care to explain how u play it

[cunning verge]

If you don't get good boons don't grab curses

[bronze prism]

do you...do you think we're nerfing items between patches or something

[eager locust]

you buy warp for 10, in the future its worth 5, but the new item you need is 10 dollars

how will you get the item you need? you are stuck.

[bronze prism]

your warp is still gonna be just as powerful

[bright sage]

yeah but.. the mobs still get stronger after every challenge

you know that right?

[cunning verge]

Yeah I do.

[eager locust]

obviously new updates and content will come out, TNA raid is obviously more tanky than the previous ones.......

[glad ermine]

YOU CAN MAKE A STX PER HOUR DOING TNA THATS HOW LOL, + PLENTY OF OTHER WAYS

[fathom gale]

you try to get a few oranges then stack aqua with white (if u get rainbow before even better) once you get like 30-40 challenges (or 100+ with rainbow) from white you start spaming boons (dont take curses) then you do a few more aquas with grey and towards the end you do curses

[glad ermine]

braindead take fr

[cunning verge]

If you're unable to survive mobs after 9 challenges, you probably need to change your build

[bronze prism]

won't new content come with new items that you can build up to getting? like. this isn't rocket surgery or brain science

[bright sage]

whats your build if you dont mind me asking

[bronze prism]

yall have survived getting items before without lootruns and mythics, it's still a thing that's possible to do

[fathom gale]

nah duke has me absolutely mindblown with his take

[young ore]

rocket surgery

[bright sage]

what do you do if you dont get orange though lol

[bronze prism]

saying you "won't be able to play" unless you get the most meta items IMMEDIATELY on the update is absolutely ridiculous

[eager locust]

like i said, items you buy right now have 10stx value, in the future it is 5, but you need to spend 10 just to replace your gear

[fathom gale]

you cry and spam aqua into curses if possible and end a fast run and repeat

[cunning verge]

One is a monster tank mage and the other is an idol bmonk, but I also had one that was mythic-less that also worked for bmonk

[bronze prism]

that is just a situation that isn't going to happen like you think it will

[eager locust]

and its up to the whim of the devs how they manpulate prices and remove idol from pool randomly

[cedar locust]

I have been seeing mentions of economy
What about the economy?
Is it bad? Why? How?

[eager locust]

it already did? look at mythic prices right now?

[cunning verge]

We didn't remove idol intentionally

[eager locust]

it will just happen again in the future

[bronze prism]

have any of your items been nerfed, requiring you to get a new build?

[cunning verge]

there wasn't a conspiracy to remove idol from the chest

[bright sage]

well,, because peoples mythics are dropping in value 2-3x

[eager locust]

then put it back? why are the markets being manipulated

[bronze prism]

is there new content I'm not aware of? an extra three raids?

[fathom gale]

😂

[cunning verge]

WE DONT DECIDE WHATS IN THE CHEST

[bronze prism]

a new dungeon or something? a boss altar that got added behind my back?

[eager locust]

so the dev team doesnt plan on doing new content and new raids?

[fathom gale]

duke is free content

[bright sage]

someone come join me in #1129201931592671413

[cunning verge]

ITS RANDOM.

[bronze prism]

was any of that added just now?

[eager locust]

so devs have no plans in the future? to add content?

im talking about future prices

[bronze prism]

Stop making assumptions and answer the question I'm putting forth

[glad ermine]

lmao

[eager locust]

??? assumptions? im saying devs will release content in the future how is that an assumption

added right now????

[bright sage]

@agile jungle

[agile jungle]

heyy

[eager locust]

what am i supposed to say to that? are any content added right now?

[glad ermine]

when fruma comes out, it’s likely half of the mythics won’t be as valuable/as good BUT THAT MAKES SENSE, it will be higher level, possibly new raids etc. idk what you’re tripping about

[eager locust]

you are the dev let me know if you guys are still doing updates

[bronze prism]

and tell me why you think that, in order to keep up with content, you will IMMEDIATELY UPON UPDATE RELEASE require the new meta thing to even survive. tell me why you think that

[fathom gale]

let me introduce you to morph the nothing and cascade that has been able to clear any piece of content besides guild wars for the past idk how many updates (probably since morph exists)

[agile jungle]

bro u really talking like someone who would say ' guess im really worthless.. heh.. :)'