#Nerf fire div boss in qira

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reef stag
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Or maybe i have a skill issue

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I have 30k ehp on my build and I get killed in 1 touch

swift mantle
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skill issue UNLESS it still has pull

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If it does not have pull then skill issue, if it does still have pull then Holy Shit Selvut Please Remove The Pull Spell On This Guy

swift mantle
# reef stag Or maybe i have a skill issue

You have to do a careful dance of getting close but not too close. Classes with longer ranges will generally fare a lot better, but as Warrior or Assassin, just be ready to dip at the sign of trouble

reef stag
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i get pulled 1 shot no matter the range

tribal stump
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I mean I did it in morph pretty easily. Maybe I got lucky?

reef stag
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and then the particles and flying blocks make my fps drop to 10

carmine stirrup
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I mean
Solar Vanguard is indeed the Hive boss which I actually see multiple people complain about

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When you see like ten different people across like a year or something talk about how difficult it is compared to like, Qira or something you start to wonder

dusky juniper
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Didn’t they already nerf it a few times?

carmine stirrup
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Did they?

tribal stump
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yea they did, I remember when it first came out, we struggled with a guard abso and dps

dusky juniper
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I complained about it a while back because me and a friend did it on max level classes with mythic builds and got shredded, then we got told “it got nerfed skill issue git gud”

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Either way Solar Vanguard has been consistently harder than Qira since it got its updated moveset which is a problem considering Qira is supposed to be the final boss in that whole quest lmao

swift mantle
carmine stirrup
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(The only reasonable solution to this would be to also give Qira the magma pillar ability)

swift mantle
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the fight is so good apart from the pull spell.......

carmine stirrup
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(It's the only logical way forward)

reef stag
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👍

dusky juniper
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Its def a spectacle its just that it shouldn’t be harder than Qira and also shouldn’t be such a fucking difficulty jump between bosses

reef stag
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does qira also have magnet?

carmine stirrup
reef stag
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the pull thingy

carmine stirrup
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Like, the pull spell?

reef stag
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idk what its called

dusky juniper
carmine stirrup
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First time hearing anyone call it magnet

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I don't recall if she does, most likely not

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(I legit just fought her like twenty minutes ago)

dusky juniper
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Her minions might

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I don’t think she does, she mainly spams adds at you

edgy glacier
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fire div is hard if you do too much damage to fast

nova pier
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I did it at 105 with morph nirvana as acrobat

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Not that hard, due to mild amounts of flight

crisp fog
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you beat it at level 105
with a mythic
and said it wasn't that hard
🤯

vestal vine
royal iron
carmine stirrup
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Which combo does she cast it?

royal iron
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she has two combos in her first phase with push and one with pull, and a couple of her phase 3 ults involve it

warm crypt
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Yeah the pull spell is usually what makes this boss a pain. Pull spell in general is often attached to mobs randomly, and is extremely infuriating when doing anything.

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Also the best way of doing solar vanguard is taking it slow I think. The faster you do it the harder it gets.

royal iron
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Vanguard's got 3 combos in phase 1 that have pull out of 5, but only 1 combo in phase 2 that has pull, out of 6

carmine stirrup
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Yeah but the fact that people mostly complain about Solar Vanguard specifically

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Kinda strange

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I get that the strategy is to like, go slowly or something

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But nobody knows that >: (

lyric atlas
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Yeah if you burst down the HP bar too fast all geysers just erupt at once
fucking death
THIS is where paladin is useful!!!!

jaunty spire
fading gazelle
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Solar vanguard is harder than qira fr

jaunty spire
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its not at all

dusky juniper
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Yes it is

jaunty spire
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depends on how lost you are

dusky juniper
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Every boss teaches you to burst hp down then vanguard says “No screw you ong fr”

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Literally the only boss in the game that punishes that

jaunty spire
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are we like talking about the boss on first fight of a player?

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where the player doesn't know what to do

dusky juniper
jaunty spire
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pull is so 💩

dusky juniper
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And I generally learn boss fights in 1-2 tries at most

jaunty spire
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dats what i mean tho, are we talking about it being a 💩 boss in case of it not being burstable / punishing the player for dealing damage (with lag and weird ways of damaging the player)

and about players not being able to figure it out?

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because in that case it is way too strong and annoying, yea

dusky juniper
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Yea generally

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Notice that people that don’t have trouble tend to run Morph

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And it also doesn’t take as much to do a crap ton of dps to solar vanguard due to 2.0 dps

royal iron
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if we had more varied mob spells that didn't have such restrictions then maybe I wouldn't need to utilize pull to have him be a threat

dusky juniper
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If he uses flamethrower after pull then thats bs, Flamethrower can easily oneshot someone without a decent amount of defense

royal iron
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and I have been campaigning for more mob spells for ages now

dusky juniper
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Agreed lmao

jaunty spire
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definitely make him catch the player by giving the player a 0.01 second reaction time to being pulled and sometimes oneshot with the only counterplay being a movement cancel

royal iron
royal iron
jaunty spire
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generally pull spell is just bs

dusky juniper
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There have been quite a few times I died due to getting pulled into some random add

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But thats more bad luck

royal iron
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for instance, one of his combos has him do a heavy pull, then wait a while, then rapidly cast multiple normal pulls into an explosion

dusky juniper
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Honestly I’ve died more to flamethrower or multihit than anything else in the game because at close range those are hard to dodge

royal iron
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the trick there is the first pull is basically a telegraph, and you can just walk away out of the range of the rapid pulls to avoid the explosion

dusky juniper
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A boss with telegraphs in Wynncraft??????

royal iron
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oh wait, it isn't almost like that, it is just is like that

dusky juniper
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Sir, a lot of bosses up until recently just used spells

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I’ve only noticed telegraphs in recent updates

royal iron
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cause that's when spell combos were added, and thus when I started telegraphing them significantly

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that was one of the couple huge purposes behind adding spell combos as a matter of fact

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anyways his second combo with pull has him use charge twice to close distance, pull around the time when he lands, and shortly after use meteor.

dusky juniper
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Idk, it just doesn’t feel like a majority of bosses out side of EO, GG, and the raids have telegraphs

royal iron
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so it's just a very slightly more dangerous charge -> meteor combo

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which is as simple to avoid as holding the S key

dusky juniper
royal iron
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the third one, which I misread admittedly about your complaint, is a pull to flamethrower- but it's not instant and immediate. you have the time to walk away out of the flamethrower's range, which is VERY small compared to the range of the pull anyways

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again- just walking away from the boss solves the issue handily

reef stag
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its not only the boss thats hard, the second i step into the boss room i drop to under 10 fps

royal iron
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never felt an FPS drop in his room at any point on any of the devices I've used. not sure what's goin on there

dusky juniper
crisp fog
royal iron
dusky juniper
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Yea what

crisp fog
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Vanguard uses charge to keep in range?

royal iron
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honestly it seems to flipflop between updates

raw gyro
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I kinda agree on the nerf, a new player mythicless will struggle a lot to do it

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with mythic you should not complain tho

dusky juniper
raw gyro
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I used grimtrap, killed it before it touched me

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but trickster is too op anyway

vestal vine
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Rol questlone bosses break hard if you do too much damage
The eye thing in rol 3 just spawns like 40 copies at once (and lags your game)
And lari in rol 4 spawns a million thunderclouds (my fight with cata took 3 seconds, second 1: me dashing onto lari
Second 2: spin attack and game freeze
Second 3: unfreeze with a like 22 thunderclouds and tp out happens)

crisp fog
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why are you brining cataclysm into quests
am I being told you levelled past them

carmine stirrup
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I know that they probably do but like
Most of the time they just aren’t significant enough for you to notice them

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That or so many goddamn bosses in the new updates are one-time

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Please make quest bosses replayable post-quest I beg you all

queen hill
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skill issue

jaunty flax
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I mean

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Either nerf solar vanguard or buff qira

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I always find solar vanguard easier than qira, so

twin oriole
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eithe damage it slower or even faster

reef stag
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wait he also 3 shots my morph mage setup

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but like 3 ticks of damages so i cant even heal in time

vestal vine
twin oriole
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(It does attacks at hp thresholds so if you do lots of damage you get damaged a lot)

reef stag
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morph mage doesnt do damage

jolly cairn
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cap

reef stag
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finally beat it

celest gull
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Wrong reply but whatever
If anything if you can do it its honestly easier than just taking the fight slowly, since that way he doesn't spam combos and since the geysers are piss easy to dodge (Don't stand still you numpties :) ) Its honestly not that bad

warm crypt
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Depends on what you are using. Some classes don't really have very good burst options. (aka shaman).

celest gull
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I mean sure in cases like... Mage or Shaman its harder to burst him down making it so you have to
gasp Play the fight as intended?

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But since 2.0 dps is stupid (and still is for a lot of cases) Its not that hard

warm crypt
celest gull
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Anyways what am I doing in the forum that only has such amazing topics such as
"Nerf Warrior" And....
I honestly dunno what other unfunny stuff y'all have cooked

crisp fog
slim plume
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playing as shaman in this fight is just pain unless you have like +100 walkspeed and using summoner overdrive and chugging pots every second (only way I know how to beat it with a decent chance of not failing)