title man it was a fun item originally it would be nice if out of nowhere a blood sorrow beam or a lacerate cast instead of base spells from your own class thats not "Madness" thats a slight inconvenience at best
#make "Madness" Major Id replicate max level spells from any class
lilac quail
knotty pasture
which one is madness major id again
bitter violet
Insanely difficult to do, low on priority list. I don't think anyone, including whoever is on the team that would program this, doesn't want this to be the case, but it's just not gonna happen in the foreseeable future.
lunar smelt
bro you don’t know the extent of jank current madness has
and how nobody on the dev team wants to touch it
and how the person who made madness probably left the dev team long ago
lunar smelt
the most current madness patch was it being unusable in bonfire battle because people just used madness in bonfire battle for movement
random hatch
If you make it end archtype abilities
- no
- it would suck
random hatch
and how the person who made madness probably left the dev team long ago
I’m fairly sure salted did so I’m fairly sure you’re making this up for dramatic effect
Considering the story goes salted made pandemonium
lunar smelt
probably making it up yeah
random hatch
🤯
lunar smelt
but nobody is working on it like ever
when does salted do dev work on items
abilities
bitter violet
I’m fairly sure salted did so I’m fairly sure you’re making this up for dramatic...
i dont think it was intentional, i think it was more "here's a possible reason an item with a complicated major id hasn't been changed, and its been true in the past that some things end up abandoned because a prev developer left the team"
random hatch
I can’t comment much since I do know the whole reasons and idk what I can and can’t say but just know for now I BELIEVE it was changed due to a new technical limitation that IS solvable but at what cost
random hatch
i dont think it was intentional, i think it was more "here's a possible reason a...
They said they made it up lol
lunar smelt
i’ve heard someone else say it for sure
bitter violet
They said they made it up lol
again, not a "i purposefully made it up", a "if you have information that contradicts what i thought I knew, then mine is probably not true"
idk im not tryna speak for birdmade LOL
random hatch
I can’t say for 100% certainty if salted coded the major ID (it would’ve just been zeer if not I imagine) but it’s their ID from what I know
bitter violet
thats just how i interpreted it since ive definitely been in that position
random hatch
But yeah madness doesn’t really work even with this idea since you are asking for non existent spells
There is no “max level” variant anymore, and even if you mean archetypes god no they would either be non functional or broken op
lunar smelt
stacking mask of awakening corruption and focus all at the same time
random hatch
Like wtf should game do if you get shield (you would be missing the charge modifier), arcane transfer, etc
If you want to be less harsh let’s take arrow storm, it now has to be either max arrow hurricane or phantom rays
lunar smelt
id like for minor changes to be done at least like making warrior not cast 2nd spell with madness
random hatch
Having both effectively doubles the spell chance, which is silly
All classes can cast movement
bitter violet
madness might never be useable given the current spell system, so one change that at least makes it a funny thing would have it recast any of the base spells of any class
lunar smelt
plz no some of my builds are getting carried from current madness
bitter violet
plz no some of my builds are getting carried from current madness<:skull:1018327...
how does current madness work?
calm hill
it just casts a spell of your class
bitter violet
ah
lunar smelt
1/5 chance to cast main attack, 1st spell, nothing, 3rd spell, 4th spell
bitter violet
yeah i mean thats the other option, doest even sound too bad
lunar smelt
it’s not it’s insanely good
bitter violet
just not as funny as like 1.20 madness allowing archer to have a totem and cast bash or something
lunar smelt
every 3 seconds
free spell
you also have a chance to cast nothing
which sucks but that doesn’t usually happen
since they removed 2nd spell from recasting on time rift and pandemonium
it just casts nothing in its place
lilac quail
ok how about remove the 2nd no cast bullshit and make it a random base spell from any class
lunar smelt
if you get unlucky and have the 20% chance trigger 5 times in a row you can have madness do absolutely nothing for 15 seconds
lunar smelt
ok how about remove the 2nd no cast bullshit and make it a random base spell fro...
it doesn’t work like that because this fix was a bandaid fix to just stopping the spell from happening
it’s not fixing the current system
lilac quail
aw
lunar smelt
current madness got changed to just cast base spells of the current class only and main attack
lunar smelt
madness might never be useable given the current spell system, so one change tha...
think about it
lightbender relying on one cast for use over like 10 seconds
costing like 50 mana per ophanim
madness can give u that for free 20% chance
every 15 seconds ur guaranteed to get average free ophanim
this means you can throw mana sustain into the garbage and just build for dps only
@dense bear
this guy knows what i mean 😉
red mantle
i once tried wearing pandemonium with lightbender and it was.... underwhelming. tho I'd blame that on lightbender being pretty uneventful as an archetype lol.
you can have two concurrent heals with orphy pulses tho which is nice
lunar smelt
have you tried it on warp tho
terse widget
Like wtf should game do if you get shield (you would be missing the charge modif...
it'd really just
calm idol
i always love ot when i get it from the trick or treat box whatever
terse widget
do nothing
dense bear
Ive been summoned
little ether
remove the quest req from Pandemonium while your at it. Please I don't want to do the worst quest in the game five times just to use a meme bracelet
it doesnt even make sense for it to require ??? its just there to troll people
dense bear
Ill run through ??? With you
real sierra
remove the quest req from Pandemonium while your at it. Please I don't want to d...
cry about it
little ether
I will cry about it 😭
prism has the same problem, requiring realm of light even though its completely disconnected from that questline.
calm hill
cry about it
little ether
for some reason the acutal ROL items don't have quest req, but this random ring you get 40 levels later does???
dense bear
Pande is no longer a meme item. Especially on builds with hardcore mana management its very powerful
gaunt lily
pandemonium giving me an extra 1 cps for insane optimization
knotty pasture
insane