#Add a way to get Qira Items back

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simple spruce
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Almost all of the once-per-class items have a way to get them back (TM or /fixquests), one glaring exception to this is the Qira Hive shop items. They are some of the most useful items in the game for endgame builds but as of now the only way to get lost Hive items back is to create and level a whole new class. I suggest adding an NPC at the entrance to the Hive Shop. This NPC would check how many classes you have that have completed the hive quest. It would then check how many vouchers/items you have from each hive. If the number of classes is more than the amount of items, the NPC would subtract the two and give the correct amount of vouchers. This could also be done in /fixquests or a seperate command (e.g. /fixqira), but I'd say an NPC is better because people would encounter it in normal gameplay and know how to get the items back. I see no reason not to add this as the only consequence would possibly be bugs which cause you to get multiple items on one class which nukes your stats anyways.

TLDR; Make an NPC that gives you back your missing Qira Items

lavish beacon
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I dont even see a reason why we couldnt have a few of them per class. If ya want to switch builds often its pain getting to hive every time. Infinite items could lead to an exploit. Just make not sellable. It would also prevent some acidents. And this is not the first tread about this topic.

vague tulip
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soulbound items exist now

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so

simple spruce
tribal hazel
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oh god its only a matter of time before what one weirdo comes in and starts saying "just play through the game again waaaa" "its not that hard"

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forget what their username is tho lol

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this is like the 3rd or 4th time this suggestion has been made and every time, without fail, they're there

honest ferry
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Yea lol

leaden cape
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wouldn't mind like a shop for 8 of the floor 10 catalyst for another voucher

ashen basin
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Erm... actually... maxing out another class for a hive item can be very fulfilling

leaden cape
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how do I remove a moderator from a thread

ashen basin
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Do ban 152258706304663552

leaden cape
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did not work unfortunately

quiet star
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lost cwg a while ago and speedlevelled a shaman to 80 to get it back which was absolutely not an experience i want to go through ever again

ideally you could just have vouchers obtainable using the boss catalysts cause it's not like you can wear more than one piece of a division at once anyway. i don't feel like there's a real point in limiting them in such a way especially with how items can just glitch and off themselves

leaden cape
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I have personally never lost a hive item but like it probably sucks if you don't have a class on hand that can do it and you are just forced to make another class and power lvl it

simple spruce
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Yeah

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Its kinda odd that they thought of ootg items before hive items

silver thistle
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Yeah I think this is a fantastic idea and I don't why it's not a thing

silver thistle
tribal hazel
silver thistle
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^

honest ferry
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Derailed every discussion talking about this legitimate issue with his elitist bs

ornate raven
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Also transmutation merchants (except master) shouldn't require 2 boss catalysts
With recent changes to bosses they're just annoying af

honest ferry
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Yea

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Even master really shouldn’t

summer axle
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master doesnt no?

slender loom
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Yeah, masters can be swapped for free

silver thistle
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I have a stack of master catalysts that I grinded in like 2018-2019 and I have no use for them

river swan
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if yall ct are too lazy to do what this dude said, just make us pay master catalysts and 5le so that no one can farm money out of those

solid hill
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I have absolutely no idea why this still isn't a feature

silver thistle
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5 le seems a little steep

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I say make it couple catalysts maybe 5-10

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I really can't imagine this would even be a half decent moneymaking method

river swan
silver thistle
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I think the consensus in the last thread was 8 catalysts that way you can't make a crazy profit like what 12eb max per piece

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and that takes 8 runs like yeah it's just not worth it

solid hill
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Why not just have Hive Tokens be in the shop costing X amount of Catalysts and an emerald price

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That fixes the costing issue

river swan
silver thistle
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it doesn't have to be 0 profit no one's gonna do it anywyas

river swan
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that's the main objection we had from ct members so far (duping & farming from it), so yes you want it to be 0 profit too xD

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(but I agree with you, if it requires too much catalyst no one is gonna farm this)

stone valley
river swan
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since raids

stone valley
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wdym raids and soulbound items? 🤔

river swan
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tomes are soulbound

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not minecraft's soulbound but those work the same way

stone valley
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ahh yea tomes right i forgot they were soulbound cuz i traded my guild tomes around

lost basalt
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@simple spruce also to prove your poin even further, if you do lose your Hive Item and you are forced to level a whole class just to get the item back, then the class you just leveled will also be pernamently without a hive item.

stone valley
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u dont need 6 hive items on every class

cobalt mica
tribal hazel
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😭

cobalt mica
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I no longer will die on the hill that this isn’t a big issue. To me personally leveling another class isn’t that bad but I’m very alone in feeling that way

leaden cape
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it doesn't take that long but it's just unnecessary

tribal hazel
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it also doesnt take long if you have a lot of experience. imagine its your first playthrough and you lose your master hive item. it would take ages to grind back

summer axle
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nah if i lose master hive theres no way im leveling another class to get it back

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fuck that rather just use a worse build

smoky island
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As someone who fights qira for fun, it would be satisfactory to have 35 contrasts in my possesion

sullen fossil
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Yeah i literally see no reason as to why this shouldnt exist

stone valley
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it should be obtainable infinitely from the shop though, and just not sellable to merchants if thats a concern (and ofc untradable)

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not only reobtainable after losing them

honest ferry
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Yea its not like you can equip more than one item from a division anyways

cobalt mica
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I won’t die on this hill but things to think about when making items infinitely obtainable

stone valley
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u can just scrap boxes for infinite scrap lol

honest ferry
cobalt mica
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I imagine high tier items like quira items would scrap for a lot more than 1

violet rock
cobalt mica
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Tbh I’m not even sure I’ve never tried

violet rock
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scrap your master hive item. do it.

honest ferry
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That was also a recent change

tribal hazel
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i actually make profit on my LI runs

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not like.... good profit, but like i almost never sweat not breaking even on the cost of the ticket

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which is nice

lavish beacon
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Yeah those bronze necklases sell nicely.

ornate raven
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why buy necklace
rings are 2x cheaper

lavish beacon
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?

lavish beacon
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Rings it is

silver thistle
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yep then turn as many of the bronze rings into silver as you can since they're a higher level

lost basalt
lavish beacon
acoustic breach
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Could technically make them soulbound & then charge LE for extras, but soulbound items are kinda annoying

lost basalt
lavish beacon
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I mean got it back

lost basalt
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Already coped but This seems like an opportunity

lost basalt
lavish beacon
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K

dreamy fossil
acoustic breach
leaden cape
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just make it a painful amount of catalysts like 16 or 24

honest ferry
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With the new fights and the runback between each fight

leaden cape
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yeah but that way it makes it a non viable scrap/money method

modern forge
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literally just don't make hive items blacksmithable and we don't need to make an elaborate system to prevent people from turning this QOL change into an extremely ineffective money making methoud

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Or just let it exist since its not going to break the economy. Already you can technically gain money from farming LI but nobody does it because its far to slow and its not like being able to farm Qira would be much different.

sullen fossil
honest ferry
leaden cape
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only non-blacksmith items are quest items

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and putting vouchers and/or every single hive item as quest items just seems a bit weird

honest ferry
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Yea

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Also I hate quest items I have multiple bank pages of quest items because I can’t throw them out and /fixquest gives you all quest items

summer axle
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just throw them out lol

summer axle
leaden cape
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oh yeah that too

summer axle
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that might be a different tag tho

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idk im looking forward to my bpc

honest ferry
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Unless they changed it

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If they did then I might just cry tears of joy

summer axle
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u can w glitch abuse that goes entire unpunished

honest ferry
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Also CT member promoting glitch abuse??????? WTFROG

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Honestly unacceptable

summer axle
honest ferry
summer axle
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yeah idk i think ppl have wanted it for about 6years or so lol

lost basalt
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They can be refundable for a price

summer axle
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i wasnt

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really taljking about the topic i dont think, im not opposed to the idea lol