Fix Sorcery Major ID with Trickster

[kindred condor]

Currently the attack only works for you, it doesn't include the clones.

[lime path]

thank god the bug exists

[dense musk]

stacking clones, as if ye-ol'-1.19.0 patch shaman wasnt busted enough (hmmm 10 totems, each capable of healing and damage, not aura tho)

[sick lodge]

I think he is talking about sorcery recasts not including echo

[lime path]

legitimately it shouldnt be fixed if it is unintentional

[junior magnet]

It's not a bug. It's a feature

[autumn fiber]

less lag for me

[frail wing]

If this is fixed Assassin will finally be S tier at something, crashing a server

Or will be back to S tier server crashing

During Hero beta I crashed a server using Assassin clones plus infinite mana, it was funny

[keen sand]

I sont jnderstand the or

[grand scaffold]

I want panderift Trickster

[kindred condor]

why not?

sorcery is completely useless on assassin trickster because i'm pretty sure the 1 spin it casts from you has the damage nerf from clones

now i havent really played other classes besides assassin in 2.0 but i'm p sure for example you can have 2 arrow storms at a time with sorcery, no?
same thing does not work with spins

[kindred condor]

also if it's unclear i meant making spin multi and smoke work from clones not just from the player, not duping clones

currently when you have clones active and do a spin and sorcery applies, it only does 1 spin from the player not the clones

[jovial jolt]

yeah, seems like it should cast from clones too

i dont know how it works with aura but i would assume that also casts from all totems and not just one

[warm leaf]

that's false iirc but no idea

[kindred condor]

p sure u can do that but idk

okay but sorcery works for literally every other class?

[autumn fiber]

i think it is like that

[charred kelp]

the dps would be even more absurd then it already is now lol

trickster doesn’t need sorc

[frail wing]

It doesn’t work for clones because it would lag the server

Trust me, I know, I crashed a server using clone on HB

[charred kelp]

imo i think this bug should stay until

1. The class is more optimized for lower end computers
2. The class is balanced accordingly so that Sorcery doesn’t cause its dps to exceed the millions and then some

[frail wing]

Nah the class won’t exceed millions lmao, its assassin

[charred kelp]

do you know how much dps trickster can do?

[frail wing]

Last time I played all assassin specs were shit

[charred kelp]

it has some of the highest dps potential in the game, i’m serious

some cata spell builds i’ve seen get 500 to 600k sustained dps

my nirvana stardew build gets around 350k to 400k

the only issue is that due to the innately poor design of the class this dps can only be sustained through nearly perfect playing

[kindred condor]

cata

[charred kelp]

because getting hit loses clones and therefore loses dps

[kindred condor]

thats the tradeoff for cata

[charred kelp]

but yes, due to all of this combined i think it’s best if we wait for the class to be very properly balanced and optimized before this is patched

[kindred condor]

but sorcery not working is annoying bc it would help make a greg smoothie easier

[frail wing]

Ah, that explains it, I had a Stardew Nirv build that barely got 70k dps

[charred kelp]

this is what i think about fixing sorc rn

[frail wing]

It was acrobat but still….

[kindred condor]

problem with trickster is its always gonna harm lower end pc's

until you /pq low, because the whole gimmick of trickster is clones do what you do thus lots of particles

[charred kelp]

there are ways to lower the particles of the clones, it’s been done before

[frail wing]

Yea I specifically remember one of the first hotfixes lowering particles from them

[charred kelp]

and trickster’s dps also needs to be tweaked before sorc can be allowed to work properly on it

getting sorc on trickster in tna will essentially allow you to kill greg unfairly quickly

[frail wing]

Assassin needs to be tweaked so that you don’t need to be godly at the class to get reasonable dps

70k dps with Stardew, Nirvana

[charred kelp]

gonna have to keep endlessly waiting on that one ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[kindred condor]

a lotta class balancing would need to happen for me to agree with nerfing assassin dps
you need to spend a shit ton of money for assassin to be any good, and also not skill issue

[lime path]

you should be getting more than 70k with stardew nirv though ,

[kindred condor]

archer for example can easily exceed 200k dps without crafteds or 10 stx mythics

[frail wing]

It was on acrobat

[kindred condor]

or bmonk fallen warrior

[charred kelp]

on acrobat the dps can range a lot depending on the player

[lime path]

ok fair

[frail wing]

But also lmao

Acrobat legit fun why does its dps need to be lower than Lightbender Mage

[lime path]

cuz for Some Reason it was just made without damage mults

[charred kelp]

it just doesn’t have the multiplicative damages that other classes have

[frail wing]

Bruh Salted designing assassin really was

[charred kelp]

wbk

[lime path]

honestly i really think damage multipliers should only exist to level out dps from base spells of other classes

like, at various levels with upgrades and whatnot

just giving archetypes free 50% more damage fucks over basically every boss in the game

[charred kelp]

yeah, i never liked the multiplicative damage upgrades at all.

spell damage multipliers and new effects are cooler

[frail wing]

looks at the Eye being melted by most classes with a basic build

[lime path]

yea

also clones need to be somewhat worse ngl lmao

[charred kelp]

agreed, they need to be more consistent but deal less damage

[lime path]

it just kinda sucks because of how trickster is

yea. basically that

[charred kelp]

consistent in uptime, rather

[frail wing]

Assassin mains when they are the only class to have a cooldown to a core part of their class kit

[charred kelp]

design issue

[mint elk]

assa is already s tier

highest dps in the game 😼

[autumn fiber]

1 shotgun mob

[kindred condor]

well, with assassin you can survive

archer or warrior will just die

[autumn fiber]

difference is archer can snipe with bombs

[kindred condor]

i suppose that's true

just get an archer in the tna group

or smoke bomb idk

[autumn fiber]

how much dmg per bomb tick is good for crafted cata now actually ?

[kindred condor]

bomb isn't for dps

[autumn fiber]

ik but in case you wanted to quickly kill lets say nullards

[kindred condor]

its for the damage bonus

[kindred condor]

oh idkmy smoke bombs do like 75k dmg total and they last for idk how long
usually id just do the light room skip though

[spring wren]

fuck trickster, fix it working with charge 😭

[kindred condor]

fix it working with teleport (aka remove it)

i saw a guy teleport out of TNA before chest because of looping teleport spell

[keen sand]

Cant u swap items to cancel?