Hive Vouchers Feedback

[kindred cape]

Since I posted about this some time ago, I ain't writing a whole essay, instead I will try to simplify this. So basically, since a lot of people lost their Hive Vouchers, and there is ALREADY A SYSTEM THAT PREVENTS YOU FROM WEARING 2 SAME SET HIVE PIECES, then why won't yall just make em re-obtainable? Like in exchange for a few Catalysts of the tier. (Also, making another class and grinding for 10 hours is not a solution, as then the class you created will not have access to Hive) What do you guys think
Edit: It is not that hard to put it in just add like 3-5 master catalysts [and optionally some LE if you really want it to be hard] for master voucher, problem solved
Edit 2: Ironman/HICH can't get another from grinding a class

[simple tendon]

Create a class lvl it, delete it, simple

Imo I really don’t empathize with people who complain about having to re lvl a class, to get to 80 it takes pass than 4 hours of you are smart

No

It’s not hard, I literally have 3 extra vouchers for hive because it’s so easy to lvl another class

[past karma]

Well
DXP isn't everywhere
People don't really have a decimated xpb set, especially for lower levels
How about fighting the bosses and getting the tokens?
And a bit biased here, but not everyone wants to level a class and just yeet it away

[simple tendon]

Not everyone wants to but if you really want an item bad enough 4 hours of work isn’t that much in the scheme of things, you don’t have to delete the class if you don’t want to, guess what you can even use it for other things, doing most of the high emerald quests on a new class gives you around 64-90 le.

As someone who’s lvl all the classes right after 2.0 it’s really not that long or hard. The only thing that’s tricky is finding a grind party for the later levels but I see one almost every weekend so it’s really not that hard

[past karma]

yeah grind parties are kind of one of my points
you'd have to be really lucky to actually see a proper party with the wc/party not being full

and 4 hours is honestly probably ONLY possible when you have parties with every grind spot with them chaining one after another perfectly

[past karma]

and lastly, it's honestly not hard, it's just... boring. I'd much rather do a boss 10 times and actually thinking about how to do it than just sitting with a totem.

[frigid shale]

hmm yes lets keep a terribly designed system in the game because you can get past it in 4 hours of grinding most people don’t even wanna do

[analog jolt]

lol I made the mistake of bsmithing hive items on my 1st character (kept the master item)

[coral lodge]

yeah, the current hive item system is really shitty

sure, there is the solution of leveling classes, but 1. not everyone wants to spend a good chunk of their day grinding out an item they could get much easier if the system was designed better, and 2. if someone loses a hive item on ironman, theyre fucked and have no other way of getting one

[radiant loom]

I wonder if there is something else like this in the game . . .

cough lootrunning cough

[rose hill]

ironman

[tropic marsh]

agree

[loud night]

something thats simple and doesnt take an excruciatingly long time to do can still be tedious and annoying

[frigid shale]

And 4 hours is a long time for some

Leveling can take way longer than 4 hours as well

[loud night]

theres no reasons against a better system being implemented aside from the effort it will require, because no matter how you look at it nobody wants to go out of their way and waste multiple hours of grinding just to get funny item

wait no thats a lie people lootrun

well still you get my point

[simple tendon]

It just seems to be this “massive problem for so many people” when it takes not that much in the scheme of things to fix on your own. Ironman I don’t touch with a 10ft pole like hunted or hardcore. Imo Wynn isn’t designed well enough to have things work well on the other “settings”

[frigid shale]

Ironmen still need support, doesn’t matter if you personally don’t touch it

Its in the game, and needs support

[rose hill]

^

[loud night]

the main point im seeing you argue with is that 'it doesnt take much time' when in reality there are people that do not have that freetime to play a game for many hours just to fix a poorly designed feature or simply there are also people that just dont wanna waste time doing specifically that, else why would this post even be made in the first place?

i understand you think its easy enough to just grind for another master voucher but is there a need to keep the voucher system that way when it causes harsh inconveniences for others

[kindred cape]

just add like 3-5 master catalysts [and optionally some LE if you really want it to be hard] for master voucher, problem solved

[coral lodge]

i don’t think LE should be brought into this, getting catalysts is enough of a grind

[kindred cape]

ok

[rancid isle]

how about you empathize with this ratio

[simple tendon]

All it takes is you lvl another class, imo again I don’t have solutions to Ironman, there are so many problems this isn’t even close to a main priority for Ironman, anyone who “doesn’t want to take the time to Grind” do you really only have 1 class, no interest playing any of the other classes at all. I don’t really emphasize with people who don’t really want to play to begin with. I’m not saying you have to have 14 max lvl classes but if you are really that bothered you can solve you problem with less than 4 hours or work and 85% of that you can do alone in adventure armor. It’s really not that much of a “oh I have to be prepared and in a group to speed lvl” and “oh people don’t want to waste 4 hours on a weekend” then only play for an hour you don’t have to do it all at once. I don’t emphasize with people who’s main complaint is “i don’t want to play the replay some of the game”

[rancid isle]

the solution is to add a way to regain these items because any argument that revolves around “just do x thing again it’s not hard/long” will always be shit

[simple tendon]

They’ve already said no to that solution it’s not that simple so unless you have an effective solution besides “just wait and cry” I’d rather take the tiny bit of effort and solve my problem myself

That’s what I mean by it’s really not that hard, it’s much harder for them to mess with the code than for a player to spend a few hours leveling a class

[rancid isle]

ok cool that you wanna take matters into your own hands 👍 does not mean that the system isnt inherently shit and that making a class should be the solution to a problem that shouldn’t exist

[kindred cape]

I think adding a shop offer 1 voucher - 3catalyst etc wouldnt be too hard to code @simple tendon (also show me a single person that shares your opinion )

[wide hazel]

this buuns guy is basically saying "it's only 4 hours (hard minimum) of your life to get another hive token, which is definitely a more convenient and better way to get more hive tokens instead of just adding a trade system like 5 catalyst to 1 voucher"

like the only other person I've met who justifies an extremely tedious grind over implementing an actual solution was some hardcore skyblock player

[robust spear]

U have 3 extra cause u didnt buy a rank

Imo waste D;

If i needed an extra voucher i’d keep thr class i levelled

[simple tendon]

What does this even mean.

[robust spear]

What doesnt it mean

What anything could mean-what it doesnt mean=

[robust spear]

I wouldve saved thr classes with a rank thats all

[simple tendon]

👀

[brave lodge]

What if you have 14 lvl 100+ classes 🤔

[robust spear]

Become ct team and give urself voucher

[radiant loom]

Mfw content team team

[robust spear]

Ct =content 😄

[frigid shale]

CT is Content team

[robust spear]

No way

[past karma]

C stands for content and T for team. That's basically it.

[frigid shale]

The C in CT stands for Content, because C is the first letter of content and the T in CT stands for team as T is the first letter in team

[kindred cape]

no response from CT 😦

[loud night]

hello yes i am CT this will be added to the game in 3-5 business days

by the way 1 business day equals soontm

[robust spear]

Whats the difference bryween

[radiant loom]

Hypixel skyblcok moment

[robust spear]

Dev and ct team

[loud night]

devs code stuff and CT works with the stuff that they code to produce content for the most part

theres a lot of different categories for CT though, like builders, item makers, etc

[robust spear]

O ok

[dense temple]

what if /fixquests but with vouchers

[kindred cape]

nah its gonna be too easy

more like 3 master catalyst = master voucher, 3 fie catalyst X = fire voucher

[dense temple]

no like

if you are missing voucher or exchanged prize

it gives you one

[kindred cape]

I still feel like CT is gonna think it will be too easy

So I am trying to give the most balanced solution possible

in order for them to at least look at it XD

[radiant loom]

Doesnt help people with multiple classes

[dense temple]

fixquests works too though

[kindred cape]

my point is that if you create a new class and grind it for HOURS then it will not have access to hive voucher

[radiant loom]

Solution: remove hive

[kindred cape]

still no CT response 💀

thats ok ofc

[robust spear]

Never ginna get one

[frigid shale]

Yea

[brave lodge]

I think they already responded on the previous post

[kindred cape]

I think they didn't

or at least it wasn't my post

[haughty vortex]

This would make build swapping far too trivial.

[kindred cape]

if you beat quira you are SUPPOSED to have access to one hive item

also read the whole thing pls

[haughty vortex]

Again, having access to making multiple hive tokens makes hotswapping in scenarios far too trivial.

[kindred cape]

why would you deny a QoL just bc build swapping would be easy?

whats so bad about saving time you would spend on going to hive and exchaning

[rose hill]

cue the catch all point:
i r o n m a n

[dusty widget]

yeah like what? 😅 such a trivial thing as switching builds shouldnt be made difficult or annoying to do

[radiant loom]

Propably just allergic to change

[wide hazel]

that guy with the cat profile picture just goes on every single feedback post and finds the most stupid reason to oppose them, ignore em

[frigid shale]

Yes they’re a troll its funny

[kindred cape]

why do they only seem to respond to the most stupid and unneccesary threads just to deny them?

[robust spear]

..

[haughty vortex]

And you use the az weapon

[haughty vortex]

It makes certain sections and fights far too easy to counter, especially detrimental to bosses with multiple phases

[dusty widget]

that doesnt appear to make sense to be honest

[haughty vortex]

Some people are better at the game than others I guess.

[dusty widget]

seems to be the case

[kindred cape]

I don't see how saving time swapping builds (which isnt even a difficulty just wastes your time) makes the game easier somehow

[robust spear]

Lolol

[robust spear]

Not sure if this is a typo or if im dumb misreading or if u changed ur perspective but lolol

[frigid shale]

Lawndale moment

[robust spear]

Eyoshina why no answer beeeuh

[robust spear]

Hmm just read it again and makes even less sense

No ones saying doing something essy(that hust takes time) is hard

[robust spear]

Nvm

Ehh lolol

[eager tinsel]

this reads like the reply to the reddit post asking about the producer of skeletons

just missing the second line

[kindred cape]

my point was the reply to another person that was complaining about how making swapping builds easier would make the game too easy.

[robust spear]

h

[kindred cape]

thanks for 50 likes ! (Still no CT response lul)

[eager tinsel]

good luck

[kindred cape]

ty

[whole cliff]

Bump

[frigid shale]

Dump

[simple tendon]

They already said they are going to have a talk about it, no need to bump let thread die please

[frigid shale]

Bump

[robust spear]

bump

[whole cliff]

Boowomp

[simple tendon]

The iq of average Wynn players makes me want to kill myself honestly

[robust spear]

Bump

[robust spear]

High iq move?

[simple tendon]

more like hive iq

[whole cliff]

buump also @simple tendon