As i said they're untradable so it's not like free selling of items
#Hive Tokens should not be one per class.
arctic cloak
woven phoenix
Would also save ironman players up to 6 inventory slots 
nimble zinc
I lost a contrast years ago so now I'm down a hive master token
woven phoenix
(As an Ironman player please this would be so nice please I beg of you make this a thing I need inv space help I cant prof aaa)
would also give me more slots to put event items in 🗿
nimble zinc
I think it's just dumb that you can't get hive items back if you misplace them, it's not like if you have a million cinderchains you can trade them off since everyone else would have an infinite amount too and they're untradeable, it'd just be nice to prevent people from losing their hive items forever, plus I have a stack of master catalysts in my bank from like 3 years ago when you needed them to exchange master items and they're useless
arctic cloak
The hive bosses would sorta be like boss altars
Where you can farm untradables, which are strong, and they aren't a issue
spring swallow
???
Having obly one per class ADDS replayability
As you have to redo the boss to change the item
I agree for ironman tho
woven phoenix
the bottom row of my pouch literally has 8 quest items I cant get back
spring swallow
As you have to redo the boss to change the item
Like who does li just to have stacks of dia tokens? I do li to test out a build
woven phoenix
have you even played ironman
spring swallow
No
woven phoenix
🤦
spring swallow
Whats up? Can u not throw out amps?
woven phoenix
I can but I'd much rather not due to them both not a guaranteed drop and them being extremely tedious to grind
spring swallow
?? Tna?
woven phoenix
tol runes
spring swallow
Can u even pay ppl? Pay tol on ur other class no?
woven phoenix
the most efficient way to get tol runes on ironman is to farm uth runes and convert those
but that requires several hours of golden avia farming
spring swallow
U have no second class?
woven phoenix
I do but I am poor 🗿
spring swallow
💩
woven phoenix
daktota pls give me my apoc back I beg of you I need the money
spring swallow
Why doesnt ironman get echest
woven phoenix
...
spring swallow
That doesn’t make sense tbh
woven phoenix
the whole point of ironman is that you cant transfer items onto it
spring swallow
Yeah but that doesnt mean u cant get storage
woven phoenix
or trade with other people in any way
having the bank means that you can functionally just play it like a normal class
spring swallow
I mean like hsb echest
woven phoenix
HySB 
spring swallow
Who says exhest gotta be commevted to other classes?
woven phoenix
that is how the Wynn bank works
please I beg of you play through ironman at least a little before you say stuff like that though
it just comes across as ignorant
spring swallow
please I beg of you play through ironman at least a little before you say stuff ...
Ur ignorant wtf
How am i ignorant
woven phoenix
you are completely missing the entire point of the ironman gamemode and acting like someone who's completed it doesn't know anything about it
woven phoenix
p o u c h
spring swallow
No bank so u cant trade
spring swallow
***p o u c h***
Ok bigger pouch its the same idea
woven phoenix
ironman is perfectly designed the way it is
spring swallow
Mhm ok u dont need infinite hive tokens then
woven phoenix
hive tokens would be beneficial to literally everyone, just mainly ironman
tell me how a larger inventory would help ironman players with losing hive items as well
spring swallow
Not loosing but inventory space? It seemed to me that you were addressinf a proboem when u mentioned nearly half ur pouch was taken up
Ah
woven phoenix
Yeah I’m trying to remain relatively on topic while also countering your points
potent plover
Automod wtf
spiral cosmos
Hi I completely support this idea
Very silly that wynn does not have a system to re-acquire once-a-class hive items
solar oracle
If you go make a another class to get one that you've lost... You still will have less master tokens than you do endgame classes
spring swallow
What if u delete the class?
tribal tulip
If I see someone mention no-refund policy in this thread I am going to use the nuclear launch codes and start armageddon
forest vortex
ironman inventory space save holy shit instant upvote
forest vortex
Yeah but that doesnt mean u cant get storage
yea this would be fun ngl
steady vigil
Yea you can’t use more than one of a specific hive item element anyways so there is no reason to limit it
Its not like getting a bunch of legendary tokens is gonna make you able to have full legendary LI gear, you can’t do that
austere aspen
make hive items like li
upgrade through base item using the catalysts
this is the only solution
steady vigil
No it isn’t
You can’t use multiple of the same element item
No Moon-pool circlet and another hive water item in your build
austere aspen
yeah but u don’t need to keep farming endlessly to switch
shy hill
Now that you can only use one item from each division I fully support this
steady vigil
Now that you can only use one item from each division I fully support this
That was always a thing
spring swallow
How hatd is it to not lose items
steady vigil
How hatd is it to not lose items
You’d be surprised, my Dhydro disappeared from my inv and I never even touched it
shy hill
That was always a thing
Oh was it always like that? I think I remember a time when it was possible to use multiple
steady vigil
How hatd is it to not lose items
Stuff disappears, you lose it while classing, a glitch happens and you lose it
steady vigil
Oh was it always like that? I think I remember a time when it was possible to us...
Maybe at the very start but its been only one item per division for the longest time
hushed wedge
Having obly one per class ADDS replayability
If a game needs to limit something to once oer class for replayability its just badly designed
spring swallow
If a player needs a useless reward to motivate them they are badly designed
spring swallow
If a game needs to limit something to once oer class for replayability its just ...
I dont understand what this means but sure
Encouraging repkaying is good. Especially since that person would have a new build
spring swallow
If a game needs to limit something to once oer class for replayability its just ...
Ah r u saying its bad if no one would replay it wihout the linited items? Thats like saying li shoukd give everything for free after thr first run. Besides people redo qira all the time and imma try fire div again.
hushed wedge
Ah r u saying its bad if no one would replay it wihout the linited items? Thats ...
Im saying you shouldnt limit something 5omonce per class exept very few things
spring swallow
Im not saying replayability is a good reason to keep it(its not a reason at all)
I was just telling them that uncapping the voichers u can get negatively affevts replayability
steady vigil
Im saying you shouldnt limit something 5omonce per class exept very few things
Like Order of the Grook rewards are 50/50 I get why you can’t farm them, but also it would be nice to be able to farm them for TM
spring swallow
Im saying you shouldnt limit something 5omonce per class exept very few things
There is no reason to have it uncapped besides people losing items/ironman inv space
spring swallow
Like Order of the Grook rewards are 50/50 I get why you can’t farm them, but als...
Get to lvl 60 thrn delete ur class 😄
steady vigil
Get to lvl 60 thrn delete ur class 😄
You’re an idiot
spring swallow
Ur very very smart
steady vigil
Forcing people to level another class to get something is such a terrible idea
Other MMOs only do it for cosmetic stuff
Even then thats a little much
spring swallow
Forcing people to level another class to get something is such a terrible idea
Xd yes
Idk there are enough grook accessories on tm atm
forest vortex
“it would be nice to farm them for tm” what
if you could farm them for tm any faster than leveling a new class they’d be worthless lol
austere aspen
i honestly thought ability shards were only from dailies
once I realized u can get them from raids it’s all over
forest vortex
ability shard obtain methods are so dogshit
spring swallow
ability shard obtain methods are so dogshit
hmmm.. if ur grinding them yes.. if u dont care about them you get plenty.
spring swallow
hmm.. u cant grind them from raids tho?
forest vortex
hmm.. u cant grind them from raids tho?
what if i am not high level,,
forest vortex
true
i mean i feel like im the only person with the issue of needing ability shards on multiple ironman classes
it usually isn’t an issue bc ^ but the ways to get them are just so bad
forest vortex
ya
woven phoenix
linnyflower how many non ironman classes do you have
forest vortex
linnyflower how many non ironman classes do you have
1
spring swallow
I presume it's on permahunted
That would mean he deleted his first class!
steady vigil
Yes?
forest vortex
I presume it's on permahunted
yea
forest vortex
That would mean he deleted his first class!
she* but i deleted it by accident and then class backups glitched and spawned like five level 1 warriors
so the class was gone. sobbing
spring swallow
Rip
nova arrow
+1
true jolt
spring swallow
check
if u have like anima things or stuff or like hive bow or pants or something
narrow rampart
I need this
modern rampart
forgot to bumpchar this in a while
modern rampart
bump
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