Please fix Warscream Aggro Or give a visual aggro bar

[native tusk]

Im sick and tired of casting warscream with aggro modifier AND running Strobelight for taunt.

The Ability says we get 5 seconds of the Mob/Boss attacking only us but after like 1/2 seconds the boss in TNA will just ignore me and walk away. Please either fix the tooltip, the aggro mechanic clarity on bosses, or just delete paladin if it cant warscream.

[plain cedar]

haha cry about it warrior is immortal anyway

[native tusk]

Thats cool I didnt realize I mentioned survivability anywhere in this post. Thank you for finding the hidden text that not even I knew was there 🙂

[plain cedar]

🫶

[ashen karma]

All this osmierk guy does is troll in #1019649786799996980

[cyan swan]

(real)

[ashen karma]

surprised he isn't muted yet

[plain cedar]

cry about it

[native tusk]

Imagine not having anything better to do but to run around in a forum feature to troll.

[cyan swan]

trolling can be fun tho ngl

i havent done it in like 7 years now tho 😭

[plain cedar]

dont hate on my hobby 🦾 🗿

[ashen karma]

osmierk you arent even a good troll

[plain cedar]

best comeback ever paint pfp

[ashen karma]

nft pfp 🤓

[plain cedar]

🈵

[cyan swan]

i dont see anyones pfp here which was from paint

[pastel sky]

I wish I could see any member of the staff team respond to any of this, we still don’t know if agro is bugged or if this is an “intended feature”

[shut radish]

i'm pretty sure its bugged

[native tusk]

It has to be

[shut radish]

theres nothing in any of the hotfixes stating that provoke was changed so its msot certainly unintentional

[plain cedar]

he has robot made in paint

[stone basin]

pretty sure it porpusfulyl doesnt work on TNA

[knotty grove]

doesn't work entirely, mobs, bosses, ect.

[pastel sky]

Cause Greg agro is based on number of hits if someone arrow storms at the wrong time agro and change .02 seconds after the warrior war screams. Which feels bad and very hard to understand why and when agro changes

• for me there is no healthy way to cycle war scream it just turns into a guessing game if I have mana or not

[lusty dagger]

thats not why agro changes when taunt is being used

[pastel sky]

From everything I’ve tested and heard from mod that is the reason why

[lusty dagger]

thats how it works without taunt

[pastel sky]

Then tell me how it works cause Im 98% sure I’m right

[lusty dagger]

when taunt is actually working he de-agros tank from getting inside/too close to thm

[knotty grove]

@lusty dagger done copme

[pastel sky]

Monkey that makes so sense

[lusty dagger]

yea but thats how it works

[pastel sky]

He still loses agro when I circle strafe, so you are just straight up wrong

That’s not how it works I’m saying you are wrong

[lusty dagger]

i mean

i can keep agro perfectly fine

[pastel sky]

From being both an archer and palidin I have seen how the agro works first hand on both sides

I promise you a boltslinger will take agro from you, show me video of you are so confident

[lusty dagger]

i have 200+ runs combined between warrior/shaman/archer/mage and i can keep agro much better than it seems you guys can

[pastel sky]

Then explain how you keep it the entire time

No matter what I do archers will take it from me so explain how I stop that

[lusty dagger]

when i play archer i dont take it because my tanks know how to keep agro

[pastel sky]

You say don’t let Greg inside you, I’m saying I did circle strafe and it doesn’t do anything different from when I do or don’t

You haven’t explain how to keep agro

Video or didn’t happen imo

[native tusk]

My only issue is I had a light bringer pull aggro off me, 1 second after I war screamed, auto attacked like 6 times, and upper cutted.

With a single attack

[pastel sky]

I really don’t know, I heard from notafish it has something to do with # of hits and from that I’ve noticed a pattern

[sour hornet]

Skill issue

[native tusk]

Like if thats the case with TNA boss, I can accept that it would make sense.I just want some damn clarity

[pastel sky]

Explain or keep coping

[lusty dagger]

like i said this is not the case when you are using taunt

[pastel sky]

So how does taunt change it, again you still haven’t explain how agro works then

[sour hornet]

Mad nons

[lusty dagger]

i did explain it to you... you just dont believe me

[pastel sky]

I’m saying the explanation you gave does not make sense from my first hand experience

[sour hornet]

Experience

[pastel sky]

Show me video evidence if I’m so wrong

[lusty dagger]

and im telling you that it does in my experience of over 200 runs

[pastel sky]

Then show me omg

[sour hornet]

Maybe if you ask nicely

[pastel sky]

It take a 30 second clip to prove me wrong

Then I’ll say I’m dumb and wrong but prove it to me

I just want to know how it works oml

[lusty dagger]

i cant simply give away trade secrets

[safe saffron]

Good to see you are like this in every thread...

[sour hornet]

No LE???

[pastel sky]

👎

[lusty dagger]

the tank players will take me hostage

[pastel sky]

How to I take anything a creditable if you have no evidence and refuse to show any

My genuinely trying to have a conversation on how agro and tank should work

Why do so many people feel the need to troll when it comes to this topic

[lusty dagger]

im not even trolling

[pastel sky]

I ask for proof and you can’t give tho why should I listen to what you say. The only thing you said was taunt works when you aren’t “inside” Greg. It doesn’t even take 30 seconds it could be a 10 seconds clip just anything showing warscream lasts anywhere near the 5 seconds it’s suppose to be

[lusty dagger]

it lasts like 3

[pastel sky]

It’s suppose to be 5 like the ability tree says

Why would it randomly be 3, that doesn’t make sense

[lusty dagger]

yea but it doesnt really do that

[lusty dagger]

idk man didnt code this shit D:

[pastel sky]

Then explain how agro works plz so I and test and replicate

I just want to know the “rules” to agro. Since you seem to have all those experience with tna you should know

Or are you just talking out of your butt and have no evidence

[lusty dagger]

i mean

[pastel sky]

I mean you say you have no problem with agro so plz give us the answers, this whole thread was made to understand how agro works

[lusty dagger]

fine

let me fuckin upload a shit ass clip

[sour hornet]

Bozo

[lusty dagger]

this is what you get and dont even think about complaining about the quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZO-VBTnAgc

[sour hornet]

GREG

[pastel sky]

Wow you are a 7d chess master

Prove me wrong and give me ZERO information cause your fucking tank is invisible so I have no idea what he’s doing

I really stood no chance in trying to understand what the fuck I’m doing wrong

[sour hornet]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

[lusty dagger]

so i give you a clip of my last run and now you are mad about it... why did you ask me so many times to send a clip man

[lusty dagger]

it shows that arrow storms arent taking agro

[sour hornet]

He wants to know free LE method 64+ per hour

[lusty dagger]

im not gona go out of my way and make our team slower or change class just to get a clip

[pastel sky]

I’m saying I was wrong it 100% proved Greg doesn’t care about number of hits

[lusty dagger]

well he does but only when there isnt taunt

[pastel sky]

I truly don’t understand why I can’t taunt Greg like your tank did

Dude jumps all over the place and changes agro even tho I have strob or not I could make a difference

Is your “tank” a battle monk flying above Greg or is he on the ground?

[lusty dagger]

no

[pastel sky]

Is he in the air or on the ground? “No” doesn’t really answer the question

I’m trying to understand details so I can replicate

I don’t understand what’s hard about sharing information so other people don’t struggle

[lusty dagger]

look at the thing i dmed u

[low orbit]

That video is before the tank change there's no skulls coming out of him as new Greg does. My tank has been holding aggro fine before the changes but after the changes we cheese it against the wall now with the tank and everyone against the wall.

[unique storm]

I didnt know the provoke thing was a bug

[unique storm]

anyways doenst matter.. just get ur party to not be dumb

[low orbit]

That logic doesn't make sense when it's a complete change of a class ability. Why does the solution have to be "just change how you rely on people in runs"

[random seal]

Wait isn't it just a bug? Have you guys reported it?

[lusty dagger]

thats not at all true... i legit clipped the run i finished then linked it not even 10 mins later

if you have real players that can do damage you kill him before skulls pop out

[low orbit]

Doubt, because archers should be pulling aggro unless they're doing no damage lol and it's the shaman carrying.

[lusty dagger]

what are you smoking

[sour hornet]

We LITERALLY did that raid 3 hours ago LMAO

What is this dude on

[lusty dagger]

almost everything you just said is wrong

[sour hornet]

Average Wynn discord user

[cyan swan]

yo guys

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/2-0-hotfix-3.303475/
Added a cooldown to Provoke (0 -> 10s)
Reduced Mantle of the Bovemist's effect duration (0.5 -> 0.25s)
Increased Mantle of the Bovemist's cooldown (20 -> 25s)
Reduced Stronger Mantle's cooldown bonus (0 -> -5s)
Increased Sparkling Hope's damage (Neutral: 20 -> 40%, Thunder 10 -> 20%)
Increased Shield Strike's damage (Neutral: 60 -> 70%, Thunder: 20 -> 30%)
Increased Radiance's archetype requirement (2 -> 3 Paladin)
Fixed a bug where Armour Breaker could not trigger a second time until you reset Corrupted
Moved the Corrupted bar to be at the top of the screen instead of the middle

[sour hornet]

Sithvsjedi helpful thank you

[cyan swan]

some of those bottom ones are eh but i think provoke was referenced here and maybe also radiance

[lusty dagger]

1 i was archer and i did not get any agro
2 the shaman is using an ABSO (HEALING RELIC)
3 i did plenty of damage on archer (300-400k dps)
4 if you read where i sent it i legit said i was recording the current run i was in

[sour hornet]

I love healing relic

[nimble raft]

is your paladin a tstack? like how does he keep up with the hits of an archer if its hit based threat?

does your paladin have a build available for us to look at to compare to the old meta which was just stacking overall defensively

[lusty dagger]

hit number only matters when there isnt taunt

[nimble raft]

yeah but taunt doesnt last there will be no taunt therse a 10 sec cd on it

meaning you have 5 seconds without taunt

[lusty dagger]

strobe light ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nimble raft]

yeah idk im trying to think of talents that would give hits

[lusty dagger]

its simply not about hits

[nimble raft]

yeah but theres a 10 second cd as in the patch notes

provoke is the taunt

[lusty dagger]

mmm

[nimble raft]

oh so does he not even use provoke then?

or do they both have internal cds thats busted wtf i didnt realize what strobe light was

[lusty dagger]

idk

[nimble raft]

nobody was using strobe light like I took Sugvons build from his paladin liek he wasnt using it becuase before you would just do the bug corner

ill try that out thats probably the reason that your tank holds threat still after was he always using strobe light?

[lusty dagger]

tbh idk if he was

[sour hornet]

I might as well add that sometimes Greg wonders off to me (The Shaman)

[lusty dagger]

i think some people used it sometimes before

[sour hornet]

SO that’s why I stayed close to the tank

[lusty dagger]

that was tank skill issue

[nimble raft]

yeah we were running 3 archers so we could get the boss to like 4 million before first watch

so threat being an issue is like a net loss

[lusty dagger]

if you really think about it... he would be dead if there was 4!!!

[sour hornet]

So would the archers

[nimble raft]

not really though because you cant build focus with epoch archers

[lusty dagger]

epoch 🤮

[nimble raft]

3 epoch archers do like 500k dps each at 1.5million total dps

ill try out strobelight and get back to you guys see if that works I didnt even look into it

[lusty dagger]

50stx worth of weapons 😠

more even

[nimble raft]

oh I know its expensive lol you could run with 3 archers running anything tbh

archers are just strong for boss fights but you lose alot of damage with no focus

[lusty dagger]

summoner too

[hybrid trail]

Congrats it now has a cooldown double the intended aggro length

[native tusk]

How to kill a class in a single patch:

Step 1: "Hot Fix 3"

[random seal]

*reduce a archetypes viability in a team based setting

[native tusk]

"team based setting" aka you mean all of end game?

[random seal]

like 40% sure

Still helps, just not as much

and you said class, while it's a change to a single archetype

[stone basin]

"kill a class"

ahem the 2 other warrior archetypes

[native tusk]

Im more of thinking of the "Tank" role, my bad.

[hybrid trail]

*entirely remove an archetypes viability in a team based setting

[tawny pewter]

I feel like this was added just so strobe light and SIgnal flare can have a viable ID. However , if they wanted to make a viable ID with provoke they should have just reduced the range the Provoke does to maybe 5 or 6 blocks and then the ID would double that range and maybe even increase it’s aggro duration.

[unique storm]

2 warrior meta?