#New update issues

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rose latch
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Sorry, canon phase?

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In Eldritch Outlook?

lone ginkgo
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Meanwhile assassin: 💀

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most of it sounds like nitpicking honestly

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except the emeralds

rose latch
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Cannon phase as in the falling eyes?

lone ginkgo
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40k storms moment

rose latch
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Not recently

lone ginkgo
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it is annoying when u wanna test ur dps and get recoiled but yeah ig

rose latch
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That explains it, I've never heard it called the 'Cannon' phase

lone ginkgo
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yall call it the cannon phase?

exotic escarp
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maybe its me but neither of the archer issues feel kinda eh
maybe its because I haven't hit endgame content where the self damage and recoil are the difference between life and loosing every single soul point

lone ginkgo
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i call it the explosed chunky magma cube laser thingy phase

rose latch
lone ginkgo
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laser cube sounds good

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also you should include other issues like the ehp and mana nerf

rose latch
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You don't want it to be too fast, it's meant to be a strong telegraphed attack

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Maybe a little faster

lone ginkgo
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it affects mostly other classes

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archer's dps and range covers everything else

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shaman does need soem balancing ngl

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you couldve put jut archer issues

rose latch
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How would you suggest they make EO parkour less time consuming?

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Have we got a reason they added back the last phase?

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You gotta have an intro to any new mechanic added, tbf

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Sure, correct me

stuck locust
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Eo parkour is fine imo

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It's actaully a slight challenge now

ornate brook
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I had enough patience to get through it on my own saltroll

vernal ether
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There is an upgrade that removes recoil from areow storm

sturdy apex
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eo parkour is good now

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it was too easy before, they added a mild amount of extra difficulty in 2.0

broken portal
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i really like eo parkour

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i dont think the invisible platform stuff appears anywhere else aside from a t4 chest

solid crow
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arrow storm recoil is the sole reason why i picked phantom ray in the first place 💀

sturdy apex
broken portal
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i see

open quail
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Parkour part is honestly a skill issue

kind sage
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This just sounds like an archer complaining they got nerfed and saying it’s a dumb idea they got nerfed

hearty wadi
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Coming from a mage who is doing an archer playthrough. The recoil ain't fun

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Neither is that self damage.

frank summit
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the main thing I cope with bomb rn is actually how the projectile works instead of self damage
but the recoil is shit yes

still crying as assassin
I crave for acrobat dps buff

pearl carbon
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me too, make acrobat great again

stuck locust
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3

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Its honestly way better now

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Recoil sucks, but its not that bad

obtuse horizon
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falling emeralds do not fall after dungeons in general
arrow storm recoil isnt that bad honestly its pretty avoidable imo
the parkour is still the hardest part of eo lmao

stuck locust
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Ok for what reason

obtuse horizon
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recoil also lets you go up easier which is nice

stuck locust
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At least try to understand them, if youre gonna deflect any and all points without any points of youre own I think youre mentally deranged

obtuse horizon
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i mean
spellspam is literally arrow storm and arrow bomb

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depends on boss ig

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for a bunch like cur, cib (ew), cds, cib, and eo (altho the holes are annoying) its fine

stuck locust
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Sorcery sure.. but it barely pushes you back though

obtuse horizon
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yeah true

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its like a block max

stuck locust
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If youre actively walking forward, it wont move you back that far

obtuse horizon
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i mean

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you can go left, right, back

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arrow storm recoil can keep you in the air after escape which is nice

stuck locust
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If you offer resistance it wont move you only slow you

obtuse horizon
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it is for me 👍

stuck locust
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Elusive works fine if its not like, a bs boss

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Nope, Ive tried archer in a few situations

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3 seconds isnt that long

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And you arent taking constant damage

obtuse horizon
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300 hours lul

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what

stuck locust
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Amazing discussion

hearty wadi
obtuse horizon
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logical

hearty wadi
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to a point that you are a pretty easy target.

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(and speed does not seem to matter)

obtuse horizon
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but also its amusing how the person says "arrow storm moves you too much" and "you are a sitting duck while using arrow storm"

hearty wadi
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thing is, he ain't wrong

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you do move WAY too far backwards. And you will not dodge anything easily till it ends

obtuse horizon
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i mean

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under 5 blocks, if its vertical 2-3 blocks max (sadly, i wish vertical recoil was higher so you could fly easier)

hearty wadi
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5 blocks is still pretty bad in some areas.

obtuse horizon
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its not 5 blocks

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under 5 blocks, realistically more like 2-3

hearty wadi
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yeah it's 3. Thankfully the game is nice and doesn't launch you off edges but it still becomes an issue.

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the recoil sucks (and i'll be honest elusive should not exist the way it does)

obtuse horizon
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i never use elusive personally, interesting

fast acorn
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imo drop the recoil, make arrow storm have more spread by default, and make elusive tighten the spread i.e. +10% spread by default and -15% with elusive or something like that

obtuse horizon
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dang more spread? arrow storm spread already is pretty big
elusive decreasing spread might give me a reason to go down below geyser stomp though

fast acorn
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yeah right now there is no incentive at all

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and arrow storm even with recoil feels really powerful early

stuck locust
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Yeah, but honestly I don't think elusive sucks, you can still, dodge stuff, and 3 seconds isn't that long

obtuse horizon
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yeah

fast acorn
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its pretty good as is but there are better options

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I dont feel compelled to get it ever

icy frigate
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ok from someone who has played archer the most out of any class I will say that the arrow storm recoil is terrible but you can somewhat mitigate it with frenzy (but it should still be removed)

bomb arrow self damage and recoil is not something I notice very often even when playing with trift but it also has no reason to exist

the uh falling emeralds thing is currently affecting every dungeon
eo parkour still isn't the worst thing in the world but I can see where you're coming from
cannon phase is kind of whatever you could think of it as a break from the combat

frank summit
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I kinda never use elusive
how does it work?
do you become immune to self dmg and recoil for a period of time or does it refresh after taking self dmg/recoil?

stuck locust
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And then 3 seconds without non dodge hits

frank summit
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does the thing have a time limit or just gone when you take a non dodged hit

stuck locust
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Gone

frank summit
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goddamn

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doesn't seem bad on paper if you have like >100 agi

stuck locust
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It's fine if you're good at dodging

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And the mobs aren't badly made

frank summit
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greater ones saltroll

sterile field
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This is just another archer coping with the game not jacking him off hard enough

stuck locust
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My opinion good your opinion bad goo ga wahhh

ornate brook
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Lol I still have fun messing around as boltslinger or sharpshooter

vernal ether
stuck locust
stuck locust
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Wow amazing arguement

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You are completely right due to the amazing gif sent

near stone
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I read the entire thing and wholeheartedly disagree with everything but the EO laser phase thing

stuck locust
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Simply dodge

near stone
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Also “cannon phase” 🤯

stuck locust
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Yeaaahh totally

near stone
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Similarly to how whirlwind adds an upward boost to warrior, archer recoil pushes you back (& has workarounds) which forces you to play around those limits

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Just because you aren’t great at using the changes doesn’t mean it should be completely removed

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Just adapt to a new way of playing

stuck locust
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What about the other points

near stone
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elusive exists
you won’t get pushed by arrow storm if you use it right

stuck locust
near stone
stuck locust
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Whatever that means

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Yeah, if you actaully want change anf make a point insulting others and denying all disagreement and acting extremely annoyed isn't the way to go

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You have to be trolling

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I mean the "anyone who disagrees with me is stupid"

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How can I take you seriously if you say that

austere coral
stuck locust
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Real

austere coral
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Simply get good????

exotic escarp
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does this mean grootslang hardest raid saltroll

stuck locust
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Have you tried: dodging

austere coral
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Just stop being bad lmao

elder slate
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least toxic wynnmain player

stuck locust
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Fr

austere coral
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Clearly just a skill issue

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Another liberal destroyed

stuck locust
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Let's go

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You can deal dps but you can't dodge

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Oh wow

elder slate
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we all left when you apologized

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stuck locust
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You can beat us in a extremely unbalanced mess

elder slate
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thank you for admitting your mistakes

stuck locust
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No wayyyy

elder slate
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ik your trolling was a prank. thank you for apologizing for it

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lower is a relik, not a bow

unknown.png
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because he said so obviously

glass otter
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do u consider yourself an archer main

uncut zephyr
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vip_sans

glass otter
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then name every arch

austere coral
glass otter
uncut zephyr
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vip_sans

glass otter
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i thought this was a girffe

uncut zephyr
glass otter
elder slate
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death threats in discord unacceptable reported

glass otter
elder slate
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death threats in discord unacceptable reported

austere coral
glass otter
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that was like 8 years ago idiot

elder slate
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you fool its already the 16th

frank summit
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wtf

lone ginkgo
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why is this post still going active xD

glass otter
near stone
glass otter
lone ginkgo
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bro its 1 pm in the afternoon

glass otter
stuck locust
glass otter
uncut zephyr
stuck locust
lone ginkgo
glass otter
lone ginkgo
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:(

austere coral
glass otter
uncut zephyr
lone ginkgo
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bro bald

elder slate
glass otter
uncut zephyr
glass otter
elder slate
uncut zephyr
glass otter
lone ginkgo
glass otter
uncut zephyr
elder slate
glass otter
lone ginkgo
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💀

elder slate
uncut zephyr
glass otter
austere coral
elder slate
lone ginkgo
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uncut zephyr
elder slate
austere coral
glass otter
elder slate
uncut zephyr
glass otter
austere coral
elder slate
glass otter
austere coral
lone ginkgo
elder slate
lone ginkgo
weary crystal
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actually not that rare of an occasion if im being real

dull cave
weary crystal
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real asf

ornate brook
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ass

frank summit
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🤨

ornate brook
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eter

obtuse horizon
pearl carbon
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yeah, weird correlation

hearty wadi
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As much as i agree with him about arrow storm recoil jesus christ dude stop being an ass.

weary crystal
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you can enjoy video games without falling into stereotypes

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like i have a healthy social life and and hit the gym (or bouldering) almost every day of the week so what i play genshin with my friends

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at least i don't speak like a 2015 r/atheism mod

austere coral
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Considering how dense they’ve acted so far nothing you say is gonna make them change

weary crystal
austere coral
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But at the same time this guy sets the bar so low that it’s not that hard

weary crystal
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yeah low hanging fruit fair enough lol

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but ill take it idc ! wynn disc shit asf anyway so these funny threads are always

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well funny

sand trellis
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dungeon rain doesn’t exist at all anymore from what i’ve seen, not just in eo

gentle fulcrum
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There are no issues in wynncraft, there are no bugs in wynncraft, there are no controversy’s in wynncraft. saltroll

vale jacinth
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this guy has to be trolling

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anyways recoil is fucking horrible to implement into the base spell

ornate brook
gentle fulcrum
ornate brook
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I had fun playing as boltslinger lol

steel fossil
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Recoil is something used by PVP games to raise the skill floor - making killing each other something that is more difficult, which increases quality of life, as you live longer, or have to simply be better than your opponents to win.
Recoil is a good thing.

BUT THIS IS A PVE. ABSOLUTELY NOBODY BENEFITS FROM ANY LEVEL OF RECOIL. It only serves to annoy the playerbase, especially as it seems it was added without real direction, rather just because salted (someone who doesn’t play the game) liked the idea.

Balance wise archer still has to get very close to mobs in order to get their full use out of arrow storm, making archers extremely vulnerable. That won’t change. It will just be far more satisfying when you are killed for being overaggressive instead of being killed because you were essentially stunlocked by recoil during a boss’ phase change.

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Please if nothing else on that list, remove recoil.

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That is what I said in my post, yes

vale jacinth
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even regarding the type of game wynn is, pvp or pve whatever, recoil doesnt even have a high skill ceiling and actively makes boltslinger worse

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it has sparing mobility usage for like traveling the map especially with grappling hook but it's rarely ever useful in actual combat

obtuse horizon
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some people do benefit, for example it synergizes good with escape

steel fossil
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For the intended use of arrow storm being a high damage burst, it is a bad thing.

Because it has limited use from an unintended effect does not make it better. If the admins wanted to make a new archer movement ability, there are other avenues to go with that, that doesn’t involve harming other abilities.

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Just because there is SOME benefit does not make it worthwhile to keep in game

obtuse horizon
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yeah

vale jacinth
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i think it should obviously still exist in the form of an entirely optional ability for those who did like it for mobility but adding recoil on the class/archetype that was designed around getting close and strafing enemies was a very bad idea

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just kinda ruins boltslinger for me ya know

obtuse horizon
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really?

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i barely notice it

vale jacinth
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skull

steel fossil
hearty wadi
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Theorick was a fun boss battle when the recoil meant i couldnt dodge his attack

obtuse horizon
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i just do ahc before 2.0 👍

vocal wave
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how do you keep on giving people the exact reactions they're trying to get out of you

austere cedar
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i still cant believe what the item team did to kandon beda

weary crystal
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also how do you keep playing into the 2015-2016 redditor stereotype SO well even mixing your and you’re MANS GOOD AT THIS

also 50% chance hes just baiting us but i dont care this is funny

hearty wadi
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Dungeon

deep wing
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yea the parkour is time consuming

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don't know why they want to change that

broken portal
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i sucked at eo parcour at first

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but i got better at it to the point where i can pretty consistently sprint jump the entire way without stopping (or whenever i run out)

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i cant speak for 2.0 since i yet have to play it but i feel like recoil makes the class more interesting for me

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i no longer can just go "hurr durr i mindlessly spam one or two spells and win"

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boltslinger heavily focuses on close range and arrow storm and promotes using the air element, and gear with that alignment has bonuses to agility, walk speed, and air damage, which synergizes well with what i can see in the ability tree

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elusive definitely should be higher up in the tree tho it synergizes with agility and its down there with all the non-air abilities

zealous rain
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Also, I have feeling that TCC is way harder than it was in 1.20, especially the hold the platform in 2nd rooms

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(or maybe that's my skill issue idk)

vernal ether
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they changed the scaling for defence so it is harder

sand trellis
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it way harder than tna now

frank summit
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mfw 🪨 is more powerful than a dark creature that create holes to distort and travel through reality, leaking darkness

gentle fulcrum
weary crystal
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crazy fr

broken portal
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man

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imagine insulting everyone who doesnt agree with you and instead of saying how your opinion differs from their argument or how they are wrong you just attack the person

sand trellis
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🤡

weary crystal
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bro holy shit you so fucking Glasses_Nerd jesus christ

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in the words of kanye west

find god

lilac totem
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yikes

weary crystal
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god damn it ok fine that was a good comeback eat diсk

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whats your mc ign

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whats your mc ign