Well a couple are but not many
#guild_community
shadow lava
oak dagger
kiss your nutz
limber river
and barely anyone liked it
sleek basin
Like u just buy consus and keep attacking and attacking
limber river
oh i guess we ignore that 😳
sleek basin
And lose more money
scarlet kayak
but youd get points for holding terr and capturing terrs, and the longer a season last the more points you get so peeps can catch up
and at the end we give some of the rewards based on that score
odd junco
what's stopping Mag and ESI from just setting a single territory to vlow and grinding like 20 wars before the season ends
shadow lava
Have you thought about giving points for non war stuff too
limber river
capturing terrs
visual cipher
war count competition 
sage granite
khaos takes massive breaks inbetween raids and val can build up points during that time though
sleek basin
but youd get points for holding terr and capturing terrs, and the longer a seaso...
Im assuming holding terr would be more rewarding than capturing
limber river
that will work great
sleek basin
😳
limber river
excited for very low farming
oak dagger
finally terr boosts deleted 😩
scarlet kayak
what's stopping Mag and ESI from just setting a single territory to vlow and gri...
they wont get much points from doing that
oak dagger
ty salted
scarlet kayak
Im assuming holding terr would be more rewarding than capturing
ye
oak dagger
youve seen the light
odd junco
so difficult of terrs factors into it?
shadow lava
What about also giving points for doing other stuff as a guild
sage granite
finally terr boosts deleted 😩
finally we can wipe prof guild
sleek basin
im satisfied
shadow lava
So smaller not war guilds could get some points
copper parcel
Salted add a cow banner
tawny tangle
finally we can wipe prof guild
Wtf
sleek basin
Salted was so sick of prof not getting wiped
oak dagger
cumsissie
sleek basin
He had to make a whole New system for it
scarlet kayak
youd get rewards both for your placement in the leaderboard when a season ends, and for reaching certain point threshold
a lot of those thresholds are low
oak dagger
do you only get points for terr caps and holds ?
scarlet kayak
for now ye
tawny tangle
I just want to click nodes efficiently man
oak dagger
salted trolling PROF guild circa 2021
odd junco
do guilds still get wiped every season or was that just an idea
copper parcel
oak dagger
salted
will 1.20.3 contain a terr update
so areas like SE and jungle arent fucking terrible
scarlet kayak
ye we changed jungle a bit
deep dock
GG
scarlet kayak
based on that feedback thread someone posted
oak dagger
you changed SE too right ?
copper parcel
oak dagger
right salted?
scarlet kayak
not SE no
oak dagger
😔
copper parcel
warm knoll
:doom:'
sage granite
ye we changed jungle a bit
what about gray zone + forg town ore
shadow lava
It could be cool to add other guild challenges like: “x points for x amount of xp” or x points for doing x amount of raids with at least 3 guild members in party. So non war guilds could get in on action
deep dock
Rip prof 😭
sage granite
WTF
tawny tangle
ye we changed jungle a bit
The gay ruins still don’t have ore 😦
odd junco
do guilds still get wiped every season or was that just an idea
bump
sage granite
i love sniping lutho at 2 conn
oak dagger
also hive terr routes clip a canyon wall
sage granite
(not me(
oak dagger
so its not like you guys care about terrain
odd junco
ok that's it i'm asking the question no one dares to ask
oak dagger
odd junco
why does a mine give wood?
odd junco
OOF
sleek basin
Do the amount of Score we get by capturing a ter scale with Defense of the tower? If so, cant we just set all terrs to very low and prevent enemies from gaining Score?
copper parcel
gee gee
oak dagger
ik itll be controversial but yes, we feel its a needed thing
the final PROF wipe
done by salted himself
sage granite
goodbye prof
copper parcel
goodbye prof, your sweet ores will be mine
shadow lava
ik itll be controversial but yes, we feel its a needed thing
Tbh I am on your side here I think that adds interest. Sadly alliances will probably just take back same terrs I’m assuming after every season
sage granite
why is mbp crop btw
tawny tangle
goodbye prof, your sweet ores will be mine
What ore? Lol
scarlet kayak
Do the amount of Score we get by capturing a ter scale with Defense of the tower...
its not but gaining SR by attacking will be very ineficient, its just a bonus
limber river
The problem is that salted you teased a very specific part of the update that is a huge change to guilds and a lot of people disagree on. But since it is the only thing you leaked it feels like all the other content leaders/players/everyone wants to see in a major update to guilds is being ignored. All you have is vague answers and all we have is a crown and wipes every 3 months.
shadow lava
No matter how hard you try and remove mega alliance it always finds a way
odd junco
so what's stopping an alliance from just... raiding the shit out of each other for fun in the last 2 days
sage granite
so what's stopping an alliance from just... raiding the shit out of each other f...
points probably
sleek basin
its not but gaining SR by attacking will be very ineficient, its just a bonus
oh god oh fuck
limber river
a guild objectives tease would be massive
scarlet kayak
The problem is that salted you teased a very specific part of the update that is...
dropping everything at once is a terrible release strategy especially when not everything is fully finished
shadow lava
Chaos that’s good
oak dagger
it would be cool if like if your guild reached x lvl threshold you were given a section of territory to defend throughout a season
odd junco
if we get to war our allies for points in the last 2 days, that seems like it'll just be a fun event that doesn't benefit small guilds in any way
oak dagger
it would be cool if like if your guild reached x lvl threshold you were given a ...
or if you opted into it and hit the lvl req, actually
odd junco
literally just the purge
sage granite
avo wipes nifl guilds v2
copper parcel
if u want to stop guilds from farming sr off each other, you should making so if u lose terrs, you lose a certain amount of sr. itll discourage inter-guild farming
sage granite
yea rip tnl
scarlet kayak
literally just the purge
i think you missed the thiing i said where a lot of rewards are tied to point thresholds that are low
sage granite
tbh tnl did very badly during 1.19 nifl war too
odd junco
i think you missed the thiing i said where a lot of rewards are tied to point th...
wait so there's a maximum price for rewards?
oak dagger
if u want to stop guilds from farming sr off each other, you should making so if...
guild-cest
odd junco
i don't understand sorry
latent sleet
how much are current war mechanics like routes, borders, taxes, production, and the upgrade system gonna change?
limber river
tbh tnl did very badly during 1.19 nifl war too
chiefs + sam quit
limber river
how much are current war mechanics like routes, borders, taxes, production, and ...
and then theres this like defenses are being buffed but how
copper parcel
i don't understand sorry
i think he means that most rewards will be pretty easy to attain
sleek basin
But if u get 500 Score, u get extra 5 le"
sleek basin
Oh my guckgidn god its 6.23 am i should sleep
tawny tangle
Sleep is good
odd junco
i think he means that most rewards will be pretty easy to attain
but what i was saying was like, since there's pretty much no point in holding claims in the last 3 days of a season, alliances will just have a period where they attack each other to farm high amounts of points
limber river
iirc it was make artemis mad event #232 by sam
sand lichen
was tome seeking changed
Tome seeking is cracked depending on where you are
shadow lava
One thing I’m not sure about is how small guilds are supposed to get points… for example today eden warred swamp and Llevi with a very solid all mythic war team and although we did well the map holders wiped us pretty fast.. don’t see how a small guild can ever hold terrs
limber river
all mythic war team 😎
odd junco
EDN
oak dagger
Tome seeking is cracked depending on where you are
my problem is that its stupidly hard for a rando to get a tome
odd junco
small guild
shadow lava
Subtle flex
latent sleet
One thing I’m not sure about is how small guilds are supposed to get points… for...
now you know how it feels ❤️
odd junco
what.
oak dagger
AND those tomes give SP
timber aspen
Oh my guckgidn god its 6.23 am i should sleep
we’re not gonna be able to wipe all of the wynn map tomorrow if you’re too tired bro
limber river
well if you get points doing other things which you might be able to but might not be able to but salted wont tell us
sage granite
latent sleet
casual turntables
oak dagger
so youre locked outta certain builds if you dont have a guild tome (much less the right one)
sand lichen
Tbf
limber river
god dxi is insane.
latent sleet
so youre locked outta certain builds if you dont have a guild tome (much less th...
barely
shadow lava
now you know how it feels ❤️
We’re having fun attacking… just hard for smaller guilds to actually do stuff I feel when attacking actually matters
latent sleet
not a lot of builds use guild tomes
sage granite
oh shit DXI with 8
sleek basin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473293495520460810/782347840461602836/unk...
WTF WHERE IS EDEN
sleek basin
dies of cringe
sand lichen
I wouldn't say having guild tomes be bad is a good idea either
oak dagger
thats not my point
limber river
WTF WHERE IS EDEN
eden left ? out of artemis 💪
oak dagger
im sayting they should be accessible to the average joe
sleek basin
so bad so bad
scarlet kayak
well if you get points doing other things which you might be able to but might n...
i said you only get it for attacking and holding terrs rn
sleek basin
u guys are evil
latent sleet
4 sp that contributes to reqs is a lot, especially for all crafted
speaking of crafted pls nerf ❤️
latent sleet
how much are current war mechanics like routes, borders, taxes, production, and ...
.
odd junco
i said you only get it for attacking and holding terrs rn
does this include guilds failing a territory?
scarlet kayak
i gtg
oak dagger
unicorn horn 😩
shadow lava
i said you only get it for attacking and holding terrs rn
Small guilds can’t hold terrs. I’m sorry but it had to be said
scarlet kayak
cya y'all
sleek basin
Gn salted
copper parcel
goodbye saltman
sleek basin
Too much stress for u ig
shadow lava
Well thanks anyways for answering some questions
odd junco
good bye salt ted
scarlet kayak
Small guilds can’t hold terrs. I’m sorry but it had to be said
they can capture some
oak dagger
toodles salted dont forget about champion rank
limber river
Too much stress for u ig
bro please stop you are abusing
warm knoll
salted leaving to remove literally every conn from se
latent sleet
Well thanks anyways for answering some questions
^
sleek basin
bro please stop you are abusing
WTF
odd junco
does this include guilds failing a territory?
bump to quickly and easily achieve a question
oak dagger
you get NO RESOURCES from se now
shadow lava
they can capture some
Thought that doesn’t give many points tho
sand lichen
Small guilds can’t hold terrs. I’m sorry but it had to be said
Bro just solo vs an alliance and stay on for 24 hours a day?!? 🥱
limber river
Thought that doesn’t give many points tho
eden literally abuses stuff bro.
especially chaos.
scarlet kayak
Thought that doesn’t give many points tho
ye but you can still get rewards
odd junco
does guilds failing terrs add points?
scarlet kayak
anyway cya for real now also dont worry more guild stuff is coming at the same time
sleek basin
especially chaos.
im abusing spells 😳
shadow lava
Ok I’ll trust you for now and won’t decide until we see it in action
timber aspen
hate chaosunium
sand lichen
does guilds failing terrs add points?
Doubt it
limber river
anyway cya for real now also dont worry more guild stuff is coming at the same t...
FINALLY CONFIRMATION
sand lichen
Atleast not a significant amount of them
shadow lava
anyway cya for real now also dont worry more guild stuff is coming at the same t...
Guild hall please
scarlet kayak
FINALLY CONFIRMATION
the tweet says "+ other changes to guilds"
timber aspen
massive abuser
odd junco
:dread:
limber river
yeah well who knows what that means
oak dagger
deez + nutz
sleek basin
"i gtg for real" smh
odd junco
oak dagger
limber river
could be t8 banner being edited a bit lmao
oak dagger
the crown isnt for u, its for ur guild banner
limber river
tnl suffering from success with the t8 ngl
shadow lava
Well idk how I feel about this but so far it’s not bad tbh
sleek basin
Yea i like seasonal wipes
shadow lava
Chaos sleep
sleek basin
Wtf
shadow lava
Please
timber aspen
fr go to bed
shadow lava
Need u to war tomorrow noob
sleek basin
Oooo
sand lichen
Idk the thing with seasonal wipes is like
sleek basin
Ok then
oak dagger
i hope some non war options for points is added
sleek basin
Tiger
shadow lava
i hope some non war options for points is added
Same
sleek basin
U will get the food right?
warm knoll
i hope some non war options for points is added
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sleek basin
If so i will prepare the other ones
oak dagger
i feel like if only wars give you points, its gonna break up non war focused guilds
sleek basin
Tomorrow
oak dagger
as the players who want these cosmetics leave
shadow lava
U will get the food right?
Stop but yes
oak dagger
to find a more war proficient guild to secure these cosmetics
sand lichen
Let's say edn takes over sky islands
sleek basin
Stop but yes
Bro its ok every guild uses food
sand lichen
Unless their allies can hold giant portions of the map
odd junco
create entire framework for guild research, rewards for contributing to the research, and a system that has had almost unanimous support
"cool idea"
sleek basin
Let's say edn takes over sky islands
Wtf ugly
sand lichen
Its just wipe by megalliance
odd junco
sleek basin
EDN square
odd junco
day ever so slightly more ruined than it was waking up
shadow lava
Maybe eden mag raid tomorrow? Will that make your day
sleek basin
yo lets actually Raid mag someday
limber river
my day is less ruined every time i see sir cmt pfp
odd junco
PLEASE just take like 2 terrs and call it a raid our warrers are so fucking desperate
sleek basin
PLEASE just take like 2 terrs and call it a raid our warrers are so fucking desp...
Lmfao
limber river
bro.
shadow lava
PLEASE just take like 2 terrs and call it a raid our warrers are so fucking desp...
Takes 1 conn and hq
warm knoll
Maybe eden mag raid tomorrow? Will that make your day
i'll fw it
limber river
this brotha starvin
odd junco
we just SIT HERE
warm knoll
i love edn edn is my 2nd favorite guild
odd junco
and accumulate GUILD EMERALDS
sleek basin
lets go
shadow lava
love this dude
Pog
sleek basin
LOL
shadow lava
Chaos speed running tier list like he’s speed running eden ranks
timber aspen
stg
limber river
leeum?
sleek basin
Chaos speed running tier list like he’s speed running eden ranks
frfr
odd junco
@sage granite can't send 1 eme since you don't have hq
sage granite
wtf ping
warm knoll
MAG MEMBER TIERLIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
odd junco
S++: CalAnders
sage granite
PLEASE just take like 2 terrs and call it a raid our warrers are so fucking desp...
bro doing finals rn 😐
warm knoll
calanders is no longer mag owenr
limber river
sorry staying in who tier fo now
timber aspen
so sad
warm knoll
Bro edn
sage granite
hate edn
shadow lava
Edn coming mag tomorrow to test stuff
high marsh
F-: Vova
sage granite
especially ivodad
timber aspen
yay mag raid mag raid
warm knoll
Vova's in who tier
high marsh
Vova's in who tier
F
sleek basin
Edn coming mag tomorrow to test stuff
Do u want me to think of more stuff to test?
shadow lava
Do u want me to think of more stuff to test?
We got a good list but more stuff is always good
sleek basin
k1w1s idea was so fucking cool
odd junco
just take like mushroom hill or something
limber river
Do u want me to think of more stuff to test?
teach me aura dodge
shadow lava
Get good noob
sleek basin
teach me aura dodge
shift uppercancel is so good
shadow lava
Jump height consumables
warm knoll
lol
timber aspen
morph fatal gaming
limber river
Jump height consumables
ok literally abusing game.
shadow lava
Yep
odd junco
WTF
sleek basin
WTF PING
odd junco
shadow lava
Yeah or be mega chad like kiwi and morph fatal
odd junco
warm knoll
should i fall to morph fatal hype
timber aspen
embed success
shadow lava
Going
loud lintel
imagine seeing people war at lvl 20
warm knoll
i be 8 manning wars
high marsh
We actually want to try and take an hq with kiwi on morph
full team of teirstack hadals can do a 4conn 11x4
timber aspen
wtf
limber river
full team of teirstack hadals can do a 4conn 11x4
q is such a chad
warm knoll
fax
sage granite
remember that guy who warred at level 70
limber river
trying to war detlas...
shadow lava
full team of teirstack hadals can do a 4conn 11x4
How do they not get one shot lmao
shadow lava
Or was that a joke that went completely over my head
limber river
How do they not get one shot lmao
farcortrustfieryauradefensepotioninfernalfleshagilitypotionwindyaura
warm knoll
it was on kyn hq i think
shadow lava
Yeah if there’s someone to tank for them
shadow lava
farcortrustfieryauradefensepotioninfernalfleshagilitypotionwindyaura
I mean fair
limber river
tstack hadal is kind of a meme because q used it in the tcc speedrun
shadow lava
Lol that mob
limber river
and it did really good
warm knoll
tstack hadal is based asf
limber river
rukh?
shadow lava
Drops farcor trust
limber river
ah
shadow lava
Super cancer mob to@try and farm
shadow lava
And like more than half the time it doesn’t even drop it
limber river
i just tell my lootrunners to pick them up in sky islands
shadow lava
😡
limber river
Pick us some too
what you buy for
timber aspen
will go loot run right now
shadow lava
We’ll buy them so we can fail tnl hq more times
sleek basin
what you buy for
Idk u got any price in ur mind?
odd junco
well since my suggestion got ignored i guess i'll wrap up the idea by posting all the screenshots i wanted to take of what i had
limber river
only to kiwi.
sleek basin
i wanna buy like 40 of them
shadow lava
@lost tangle ^^^
odd junco
limber river
censorship is not gaming rn
sleek basin
yo sheepn
No cap here
We actually want to buy farcors trust
If u have some spare,
I'd like to buy
sleek basin
ty <3
shadow lava
Lmao ok I’m going to sleep now. Chaos I’m like 8 hours behind u so pl z go to bed
sleek basin
Can go to sleep peacefully now
odd junco
sleek basin
Lmao ok I’m going to sleep now. Chaos I’m like 8 hours behind u so pl z go to be...
Lmfao
limber river
its possible??? they got crafted and used since they were all in guild bank soo
odd junco
limber river
wishing i was sirbmt rn so i could be under you.
odd junco
wishing i was sirbmt rn so i could be under you.
b??????????????????????????????
c is under b dummy
limber river
C is above B in the alphabet.
shadow lava
its possible??? they got crafted and used since they were all in guild bank soo
Oh well if you don’t have any ig I’ll just grind more during online class and tilt myself into oblivion when it doesn’t drop
oak dagger
ruhks were so easy to grind when 1.20 dropped
limber river
bro you are grinding rukhs during class
oak dagger
its spawn rate got fucked with 1.20.2
limber river
doing too much fr
sleek basin
there were 32 of them in TM for 3 le each
Considered buying it at some point
Thats how in need we are, rly
odd junco
limber river
this brotha starvin
shadow lava
I just afk 5 mins and then check to see if it spawned
odd junco
keep in mind anything that shares similarities with anything i made in the next update i will take adamant credit for
sleek basin
Only 2 soul points for something that is doable once a day?
Make it 10
And we are cool
odd junco
that's how it be sometimes
odd junco
he's seen the idea so my job is done
limber river
odd junco
maybe im missing the point tho since im not a waraholic
very good if someone starts taking connections to your hq
we've had a problem that we don't have scrolls in the bank so it made sense to me
odd junco
at this point though i'm not going to change / add anything unless i'm bored and want to add the banners / training type shit i was going to get around to
crude trellis
can i join hax? i saw the forum post have been inactive, so i ask here :p
odd junco
can i join hax? i saw the forum post have been inactive, so i ask here :p
i think you have to apply in their discord
not sure though
odd junco
it sounds sad but i don't think it is. the entire point was to get admins to see and consider
crude trellis
:(
odd junco
if salted thought it was cool then i consider my job done
not related to what you said btw
lost tangle
I got pinged >:(
hidden lily
looking for guild
reef hatch
https://twitter.com/Wynncraft/status/1403536951475642375 thatll be cool
vestal chasm
Ty for buffing alliances again lmao
reef hatch
someone really needs to take down valhalla alliance
sage granite
why dont you do it
nimble mantle
https://twitter.com/Wynncraft/status/1403536951475642375 thatll be cool
Wait
SE and Jungle changes?????
I wish they will be
oak dagger
SE and Jungle changes?????
only jungle
nimble mantle
only jungle <:saltroll:827620910391492620>
NOOOO
rip prof raids
buff desert
give desert second city
sand lichen
it still wouldn't be good
oak dagger
"yeha you get more points for holding"
makes and keeps a region undefendable
top tier design
odd junco
mfw Rymek doesn't even let you use guild bank since the NPCs are different 
oak dagger
mfw Rymek doesn't even let you use guild bank since the NPCs are different <:tf:...
wait fr?
lmfao
thats too good
sand lichen
skill issue
sand lichen
sage granite
holy shit mag raid mag raid
manic spoke
inland charm
I'm a friendly guy, can talk and be shy also at the same time but need guild lol.
Shaman Level 53 currently.
latent sleet
I'm a friendly guy, can talk and be shy also at the same time but need guild lol...
or just check pins
cloud pier
especially ivodad
BRO
sage granite
cry about it
cloud pier
have to make it happen
cloud pier
One thing I’m not sure about is how small guilds are supposed to get points… for...
NOT THE ALL MYTHIC WAR TEAM NOOOOOO
bro i was gone for like 4 days 😭 😭
cloud pier
i dont like them either but they will make mega alliances p useless
quasi iron
Not rly
odd junco
except for when the mega alliance literally just gets their claims back after the wipe
lol
quasi iron
2 days after map wipe mega alliance will still get full control
cloud pier
i kinda like mega alliances so thats why am against map wipes
quasi iron
but it doesnt rly affect them that much
cloud pier
2 days after map wipe mega alliance will still get full control
yea but none of these guilds are gonna get actual benefits from guilds
odd junco
lol the whole points system as well doesn't make a lick of sense
quasi iron
But they will
If u get sr for homding terrs then they r the ones being rewarded the most
cloud pier
lol the whole points system as well doesn't make a lick of sense
what is it
cloud pier
If u get sr for homding terrs then they r the ones being rewarded the most
???????
fr?
odd junco
idk salted didn't explain it fully but what i took away was that you get points for attacking / defending and taking higher def territories = more points
cloud pier
more for attacking id assume
quasi iron
idk
odd junco
and you get higher points the later it is during the season
so like...
what's the point of getting claims in the first half?
no clue who wipes caters to because the only opinions i've seen on it are confusion and hatred for it
azure egret
WTF 👑
odd junco
and from what i've been told people already said in guild staff that they don't like the idea of wipes
stuck saddle
I get wiped on a daily basis
cloud pier
why wipes??
odd junco
point system makes complete sense
but like...
why wipes
LITERALLY no one wants that
glad salted thought my idea was cool though
but adding a way for small guilds to somehow take territories is a terrible idea
odd junco
no i was not.
stuck saddle
ah
cloud pier
How i would see a balanced point system is
1 point per 1 terr held for an hour
2 points for an attack
3 points for hq
odd junco
attack as in just attacking?
odd junco
fail = take points
cloud pier
defenders WILL be warring and attacking terrs by default when getting attacked
on top of getting points by holding shit
and holding shit is really dependent on alliance (to some extent)
odd junco
i think salted said they scale with the territory's difficulty
cloud pier
labels lmao
odd junco
vlows give less than vhighs
cloud pier
mfw 2.5m 62.5% 11-13k 2.0x is a low
odd junco
idk if it's based on labels
the problem with the update imo isn't that wipes are getting added
like wipes sound shit but like i guess they're alright
but like
cloud pier
faction server lol
odd junco
the fact that an entire community rests on these decisions is lowkey scary lmao
cloud pier
on decision made by ppl who dont play guilds too
odd junco
odd junco
the problem is
cloud pier
only like 3 guilds in the entire game can consistently take 0conn 4x11 hqs
odd junco
don't buff small guilds.
not saying guilds have to no life the fuck out of it but
half the small guilds war random terrs with 0 plan and then complain about the system being bad
you'll see random 4 letter tags roll up and fail cinfras twice
if a guild lacks players to actually do wars, there's no point adjusting the system to them because they are a minority
cloud pier
thats just gatekeeping lmao
odd junco
how.
cloud pier
i want more guilds to start playing the game
bro it's literally been 2 guilds vs the entire server for months
with just role changes
odd junco
guilds like ICo, etc. aren't big guilds
but they're not small guilds
i'm talking about like 5 man guilds
cloud pier
growth happens as u war
odd junco
guilds that have like 1 member logged on in the last year
odd junco
i mean there are a lot of smaller guilds kinda growing
cloud pier
who
azure egret
Cona is just bris tho I think
odd junco
i'm not saying it should be impossible for people to make a guild and build it into an actual claim holding guild but
trying to 1 man a vhigh then complaining the system is bad is just braindead
like irl do you really expect a fucking 100 man army to take on the US army
kind of a shit analogy but like
you cannot expect that the system be designed so it is possible for every single small guild to take terrs
cloud pier
i'm not saying it should be impossible for people to make a guild and build it i...
its not possible to hold terrs if the guild u took them from wars AS IT IS RN
odd junco
yeah because they have like a full war team on at all times lol
where is that a problem in the system
cloud pier
yeah because they have like a full war team on at all times lol
esi
odd junco
i mean in general
odd junco
like some random ass guild gonna attack Shy and not expect to get pummeled instantly?
that's not a problem with the system
cloud pier
the thing is they stand no chacne against Shy by default
odd junco
why
odd junco
for the sake of argument
cloud pier
u play the update right
odd junco
no no just go with it
say why
not in an aggressive way
how is that an issue with the system?
cloud pier
firstly because ur hq will not stand for more than 15 minutes if ur not able to take shy's high defs everrywhere
Even if shy had 2 people on ur a goner lmao
cloud pier
uyea lmao
cloud pier
ur saying if a guild can't consistently pull 30 warrers and kill any defense they shouldn't be able to hold
odd junco
no
i'm saying
how you expect not to get pummeled by someone that can afford to do that
that's like getting a group of friends and declaring war on the US army
cloud pier
that's like getting a group of friends and declaring war on the US army
nah thats not a good example at all
odd junco
how do you expect not to get ram shackled by a guild that has 30 people online most times
cloud pier
man u complain about not enough guilds warring which leads to mag not being able to war a ton and then u want to prevent small guilds from being able to war
the 20 guild jump is like that with everybody
have not been in swamp without a solid 10v1
cloud pier
the ONLY way small guilds can do something this update is join a mega alliance
1.20 was supposed to eliminate mega alliances
odd junco
and it failed miserably
cloud pier
the ONLY way small guilds can do something this update is join a mega alliance
im not against this
but give small guilds mroe ways
there are only so many spots in an alliance
odd junco
how do you give a small guild a way without making it busted
cloud pier
remove pity and to make up for it lower cede cooldown to 10minutes
basically how u fix every problem in the game rn
odd junco
doesn't lowering cede cooldown just buff alliances?
cloud pier
it balances out when no pity
odd junco
now instead of a guild actually having to reclaim they can now just cede it back to the guild that the claim belongs to
cloud pier
u can actually raid with more than 1 guild lol?
odd junco
ok despite all this, i think we can all agree that wipes are fucking dumb
cloud pier
look back to yesterday
aeq, a STUPIDLY strong guild and the best at doing hqs at the game couldn't start wars lol
cloud pier
aeq, a STUPIDLY strong guild and the best at doing hqs at the game couldn't star...
why u gonna work on being able to take high defs if u're not able to queue them
what
pitiful costage
or just remove it lol everyone's been saying that
even EDN before they lost square
We've had pity save our asses not once
stuck saddle
What the hell is pity ? ._.
cloud pier
war happen war get expensive
stuck saddle
nice display
solid beacon
What the hell is pity ? ._.
Increases cost to attack territories
cloud pier
inflation
stuck saddle
oh
fossil meadow
mfw pity 😐
cloud pier
We want more wars to happen in the wyncnraft mmorpg ☺️
makes it so wars CEASE when too many of them happen
devleoper
azure egret
No one does lol
cloud pier
if u get low on terrs it starts going up
if u have a lot of guilds on u it happens fast
azure egret
It randomlh drops on and increases costs
cloud pier
did they drop below 15
pity cant haoppen without dropping below 15-20
the problem IS
nor attackers nor defenders are over powered
listen for a sec.
If you're attacking ALONE it's almost a guaranteed failed raid if you can't take hqs consistently
If you're attacking with a competent GROUP it's almost a guaranteed success and a guaranteed LOSS for the defender
It's just pity that doesn't allow for many big raids
fucks up ress for 10 hours
guild gets sent ress
gg
cloud pier
attacking the right people
as good as ern was back then (and is) they couldnt have wiped a guild that kept on warring without taking their hq
kiwi;'s had some of these experiences
being attacked by 10 guilds late na soloing their hqs on morph
shrewd cove
this damn crown gonna be the end of us all
stuck saddle
Also
fossil meadow
edn will gladly take it
cloud pier
thats why ilq, an arguably worse guild than ern (NO OFFENCE to ilq) managed to cock us after aeq sniped hq
odd junco
no joke
cloud pier
still are
odd junco
we're actually being raided
cloud pier
if we manage to get square FULLY it'll be a fun experience
fossil meadow
aeq ftw
solid beacon
if we manage to get square FULLY it'll be a fun experience
Chaos will be happy
cloud pier
yeah
cloud pier
i will be too as square is op enough to allow us to hold against a LOT of guilds
odd junco
stuck saddle
BRUH
azure egret
Joe
fossil meadow
did chaos join when we hold square back then or after val?
cloud pier
aeq arguably best hq snipers in the gmae
azure egret
Hold
cloud pier
used to it
cloud pier
did chaos join when we hold square back then or after val?
chaos joined once ern started holding corkus
so april?
solid beacon
Our current war team is in general way stronger than when we had square
stuck saddle
EDN will never get back their big square :V
fossil meadow
but can we heavily nerf pity or remove it entirely
cloud pier
EDN will never get back their big square :V
ok
cloud pier
whats HL
cloud pier
nah u're good
fossil meadow
bout to read the art of war
azure egret
yeah I am high level 😎 😎
stuck saddle
... Let's just make a tier list of wynncraft major guilds
cloud pier
- fub
stuck saddle
oof
odd junco
S++++: MagL
cloud pier
s++++++++++: [baby]
fossil meadow
god tier: dababy
odd junco
S+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++: cmt
cloud pier
yes most likely wont happen
azure egret
Hate Ivodad [Hate]
cloud pier
not in one go
if pun and esi keep warring its not possible
yeah but taking a bunch of vlows all day is smthn we can do
pun and esi are the only thing preventing
sage granite
or literally any guild mechanic idfk why the community is left in the dark on 90% of mechanics and expected to find out about them ourselves
ripe niche
cloud pier
bro we can deal with subs we're not THAT bad 😭
azure egret
https://tenor.com/view/boiled-soundcloud-boiled-boiled-irl-boiled-utsc-boiled-ch...
I agree with this statement
cloud pier
https://tenor.com/view/boiled-soundcloud-boiled-boiled-irl-boiled-utsc-boiled-ch...
😋
avo subs
sage granite
operation subway still works in 1.20 right
fossil meadow
subguilds 😐
ripe niche
operation subway still works in 1.20 right
i suppose
cloud pier
operation subway still works in 1.20 right
yea and even better
sage granite
just spawn 50 subs on mag
azure egret
The Lads [JOE]
azure egret
ok I am going to play warlord now I have said enough useless stuff
sage granite
bro u dont know how painful it is to deal with linny's ironman status
azure egret
For now
sage granite
cannot trade cannot heal
azure egret
ironman btw
sage granite
ironman btw
sage granite
i use hero solo
rapid arch
this agony worsens
sage granite
true
sage granite
do u want my faltal
if u want to give me a full ass fatal im not complaining
cloud pier
shut up hero user 🤮
sage granite
WTF
rapid arch
hero is good wdym 😔
sage granite
join kyn
cloud pier
if ur soloing and not using morph fatal please stfu
stuck saddle
My top 10 best guild members :
1 : Holo <3
2 : Nerfet
3 : Bikesuper
4 : HardcoreChan
5 : Harka
6 : Franky
7 : SugVon
8 : Chwyssi
9 : Oxzyy (thx for the fish :D)
10 : Orienor (?)
cloud pier
holo 🥰
stuck saddle
...
stuck saddle
11 : Ferret (I'm still waiting for that raid :V)
sage granite
why is orienor on the list
earnest vine
11 : Ferret (I'm still waiting for that raid :V)
Which
cloud pier
frog
sage granite
in the trash
earnest vine
:coolong:
sage granite
⛹️
🗑️
cloud pier
oxzy merge [oxzy] with [baby]
sage granite
wtf
cloud pier
they didnt have enough fatals
sage granite
hero does suck against crop terrs though
getting bashed by attack speed while im trying to heal 
agi is so bullshit
i swear
azure egret
same, have soloed several 6 conn hqs just depends on my gaming
sage granite
i think i did beat a prof 4.7x once
cloud pier
ooglong
cloud pier
sage granite
LETS GO
azure egret
toxic??
cloud pier
WTF
sage granite
WTF
queen radish
Anyone up to war jungle moment
sage granite
jungl- 
sage granite
warring jungle cringe
cloud pier
kyn hq neext
sage granite
we dont have hq 😐
cloud pier
place it
sage granite
someone come wipe us please
no
bro dude really got attacked by ibt while in the process of wiping me
/gu surrender
sage granite
????
queen radish
Were you in the territory? 😊
queen radish
Gladionus dn moment
sage granite
sounds like a u problem
shut perch
kyDN
cloud pier
GLADION ARRIVAL
shut perch
chad
azure egret
sex
shut perch
raw sex appeal alone made this man come
shut perch
no just a t2 earth spear
shut perch
tragic tragedy
cloud pier
haram curse
azure egret
prof has ore guys wdym??
sage granite
damage 1
ripe niche
why crown
coral blade
manic spoke
keen locust
tell that dude to draw cosinUS and tangUS
inland charm
Hello, where can I apply for Lux Nova?
odd junco
read pins
inland charm
Alright, ty!
shut perch
flOg
final token
inland charm
applie to tnl : )
Currently level 55 right now, I don't think I can and I'm looking for a guild as of the moment that fits me so yeah pog, sorry mate 
fossil meadow
omg 👑
cloud pier
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ripe niche
ibt must now cede all their claims to imp
or lxa
whoever the fuck is getting raided man idk
rapid arch
shut perch
hero is ppfart
slender bridge
ibt must now cede all their claims to imp
Nonono not again
Imp already stole canyon from us (BCr and BLA) instantly when we took it from SDU and IBT like 2 years ago >:(
odd junco
anyone here love?
cloud pier
only hate
shut perch
sadness
ripe niche
trajedy
warm knoll
...
odd oxide
Man im worried about this new update
- Would guild seasons stop if any terrs are taken or if a guild is wiped
- Would guild seasons actually reward the guilds in the sense of giving rewards outside guild system, if not, whats the point or incentive to still participate in guild seasons
- I'm worried that these guild seasons would be too messy to organise with the endless warring, which would obviously not let either the attacker nor the defender actually participate in seasons
- Will the current issues like the need for several terr revamps ever be fixed or is that just gonna get ignored for new features
- Will this new update even give extra gameplay? Like doing actual things like combat, puzzles, building instead of just messing around with GUI
shut perch
we said we dont like it
odd oxide
- What are the season length cuz if it's every month then too short and every 6,,,, yeah no. Also if this increases competitiveness, inb4 heated politics
shut perch
they didnt listen 
odd oxide
- Please do not. i repeat, do not. reset terrs, that's a massive "Fuck off" in the face of guilds who actually bother keeping claims or alliances
odd oxide
we said we dont like it
yeah im just giving my personal opinion on this
odd junco
Man im worried about this new update
1. Would guild seasons stop if any terrs ar...
idk what you mean by this but seasons are just periods between wipes
odd junco
apparently between seasons, yeah
odd oxide
i thought it was like those funny battle passes with new content every season
odd junco
it's stupid as fuck imo and it completely defeats the purpose of warring at the start and end of the season
odd oxide
^
odd junco
who wants to war knowing that within 3 months you'll be wiped anyway
odd oxide
it's just a massive middle finger for all the ppl that like warring
odd oxide
who wants to war knowing that within 3 months you'll be wiped anyway
exactly
odd junco
the same is true at the end of a season
odd oxide
it's like telling a kid to study and go to collage and also telling him he has cancer
like wtf why would they do that
odd oxide
it's like telling a kid to study and go to collage and also telling him he has c...
bad analogy
odd junco
why the fuck would a small guild want to war in the last week knowing they're never gonna reach the same amount of points as a high level guild
flint shuttle
they didnt listen <:PensivEgg:652173626644365312>
Staff listening to the players? That'll never happen
odd junco
odd oxide
knowing well enough that they can just wait 1 day or a week and then reclaim all their shiz
odd oxide
They aren't still doing the seasonal wipes are thry
idk man this all seems VERY confusing
odd junco
They aren't still doing the seasonal wipes are thry
they are
flint shuttle
Jesus fucking Christ
flint shuttle
Is listening to the people who actually play the game too hard
No one wants the wipes
odd oxide
it is apparantly
flint shuttle
If the whole community doesn't want it, it doesnt matter how much YOU, someone who barely plays, thinks its needed, it really fucking isnt
odd oxide
EXACTLY
If you want to make changes to guilds, go join any active guild and see what they think of guilds
don't make changes if you are not aware how ppl play the game
flint shuttle
There are many many things that are actually controversial e.g pity
odd oxide
smh
odd oxide
man this seems dumb
controversial? NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WANTS THIS
it's just opposed, not controversial
flint shuttle
Its not controversial because the the only person who actually wants it is someone who doesn't play
odd oxide
If you think smaller or enemy guilds can get claims after wipe, lemme make this simple
odd junco
say you're a small guild right. a new season has just started.
how are you possibly going to get points when there are huge guilds literally just rampaging trying to get their previous claims back and on high alert.
you think, okay, we'll wait a week for the big guilds to settle down and start attacking then. wait a minute, the thing literally half the people say small guilds can't achieve (taking highs because they'll get pummeled by big guild) just happened. i guess we'll wait another week.
another week passes, and everything is literally back to pre-1.20.3 standards. you literally just sit there with nothing to do because it's back to how it was before the changes. you ponder about raiding when the season is going to end.
the last week rolls around and it turns out big purple colour guild is 5000 points ahead of you. good luck fucko.
odd oxide
Big guilds can reclaim
flint shuttle
Sure it is his game but u can't just fuck around a community forever
And expect it to remain as strong as it was
odd junco
odd oxide
ayy my kebabs are ready