guild_community

[lost tangle]

i woudnt be surprised

[cloud pier]

To prevent a wipe

[solid flame]

ah 😂

[lost tangle]

im pretty sure salted hates eden

[cloud pier]

salted absolutely despises us man .

love the cow .

[ancient arch]

EDN wipe EDN wipen't

[cloud pier]

watch pity get removed next hotfix.

[shadow thorn]

Hotfix #2

• Pity Rework: After attacking a guild's territory and succeeding, the next war cost will now be the previous cost squared for 48 hours.

for my own personal safety this is a joke

[steel grotto]

Hotfix #3
-Deleted all goose guilds.

^joke

[ancient arch]

Hotfix #4
-Deleted all guilds

[steel grotto]

Hotfix #5

• Removed guilds
• Added communities

[cloud pier]

hotfix #6
-deleted edn

[flint shuttle]

hotfix #7
-reinstated edn, now named 'monke' unveiling new 5 letter tags

[limber river]

jake

[pulsar raft]

hotfix #8
-deleted edn again

[limber river]

awuidwaihfbuawfniuawfaw

[cloud pier]

sad[okjakpdjgsogjk

[steel lagoon]

Any guilds recruiting new players?

[azure egret]

👍

[brisk zenith]

hotfix #9

• where tf is eden

[azure egret]

hotfix #10 removed territories

[sage surge]

hotfix #11 reverted update

[sage granite]

hotfix #12 added edn

[hardy sapphire]

hotfix #13 reverted to old guild system with all bugs fixed, last patch for the upcoming 2 years

[azure egret]

hotfix #14 added dababy

[fossil meadow]

dababy [baby]

[cloud pier]

good idea brb.

[hollow willow]

hotfix #15 Eden went to sleep, ArchangeL man followed by Broccoli wielder goes absolutely ham on deaden

[pulsar raft]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-bravo-amazing-bro-nice-one-great-job-gif-14825801

dam

im not immune

[hollow willow]

LLLLLLLL

maybe if Rays had a war team you wouldn't always ask for help ! ! !

[cloud pier]

hotfix #69
-removed kigndom fox.

[pulsar raft]

hotfix #70

• Rays now controls the entire map at all times

• Removed TNI

[solid flame]

Hotfix #71

• Renamed Rays to Eden
• Removed Eden

[wide shadow]

[azure egret]

hotfix #72 dababy 2

[potent ibex]

Pity takes longer to activate if you have a large empire, and if you reclaim past twenty territories, I don’t think it’s effect stays as great

Pity is more beneficial to smaller empires or guilds with less land

So for EDN, it wouldn’t activate for example until you got low in territory count

I mean, in the changelog it says “But beware, the bigger your empire, the bigger your downfall”

[cloud pier]

I understand yep

I shouldn't complain as I'm not really forced to hold these terrs but man is the attacker side broken

[potent ibex]

Pity still help protect against a full wipe veryyy significantly

Once you get low it realllyy kicks in

[cloud pier]

sure it was pity's fault 👍

[potent ibex]

Idek much about last night, I didn’t participate

I just know how pity functions

[cloud pier]

nope

40k was the absolute max

[potent ibex]

Sounds right lmao, with that much action

[cloud pier]

it was

bro im BUSY i cant argue rn

[potent ibex]

I think it’s 40 before tax but I could have sworn I have seen higher ones, but idk

Just remember it can be taxed

[cloud pier]

just saying but edn's not the only guild that gets pity lmao we didnt NOT get wiped purely because wars got expensive

[potent ibex]

Yeah, it’s 60k because tax

[cloud pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/799680898882732093/812383087156658216/image0.gif

[potent ibex]

I don’t believe that either

I don’t even think EDN ever got low

[cloud pier]

cool ima dip i gotta do homewrok

[potent ibex]

It’s okay Lev I clicked on it

[cloud pier]

was NICE warring today

[potent ibex]

So yeah, it’s 60k but that’s because we taxed

It’s 40k max before tax

EDN did?

[cloud pier]

yep

[azure egret]

yep

[cloud pier]

for like 5 minutes but still

BIG fall,

[potent ibex]

Wait how much of Gavel got taken?

[cloud pier]

half

[azure egret]

was at like 6 for like a good 15 mins

[potent ibex]

. . .

[cloud pier]

raid was REALLY poggers

[potent ibex]

All I heard is that some banks got severely crippled

Bruh

[azure egret]

i mean i atleast got to test out my build

¯_(ツ)_/¯

and solod imp hq like a boss (yes i am going to use this as flex till the end of times)

[potent ibex]

Y’all were memeing on the raid in the morning smh

It was only the pre raid 😎

[cloud pier]

the raid was a meme in the morning

[potent ibex]

Which I still did not do

[cloud pier]

then it got WOOSH

yeah kiwi used our farming config

leaving all our terrs at low literally

it was NOT pretty.

[potent ibex]

Tbh it wasn’t as big of an event as I was hoping for

[cloud pier]

LMAO

huge quote

loved the reference

tbh we shouldve been more prepared

and we shouldnt have used farming config while gavel was being under attack LMAO

more organised

i was duoing with D_legendary for a good 2 hours straihgt

that's when we started losing

eden

IDK LMAO

everyone just dipped at one point

[azure egret]

man i was sleeping i woke up earlier than usual too

9 30 am

[cloud pier]

i woke up to 137 pings (including group chats)

[potent ibex]

Pity slows down attackers helping you have more speed in reclaiming, but yeah, it doesn’t really help large empires unless you get low because Salted wants guilds only to have like 15 terrs lul

[azure egret]

damn

[cloud pier]

i went to bed missing 0 woke up to 10

[azure egret]

when i woke up there were only like 4 or 5 gone

[potent ibex]

The less territories you have, the more help you get from pity

[azure egret]

we wiped them and i went off and then it went downhill

[potent ibex]

When Nia was in jungle attacking them once would bring some sort of pity

Since they only owned jungle

ERN is incredible

Mostly Izz

I don’t want to say really that the system is attacker sided so much, but I think the real culprit is that

Practically everyone on the map is a “large empire”

Salted wants guilds to realistically be able to hold less land than they do now so protections mostly benefit those with less

I can see larger empires becoming harder and harder to manage

I think a possible end result is that given opposition, no one will be eradicated from the map but rather there will be room for other guilds as larger empires are not necessarily that viable

Like, later, I think it’s possible that neither Artemis or Goose will control the map as a single entity. Too much land for either alliance. It also seems apparent Salted is nerfing mega alliances as from recent changes.

[potent ibex]

o and I was wrong, forgot. Pity applies when you get low, but once you have it, it lingers, even if you take everything back and exceed 20 territories

So it does provide a shield of sorts

The downside for current defenders is mainly that it only activates when you get low because everyone is a “big empire”

[lost tangle]

the pity went out in 2 hours i think

maybe 3-4

but i think it went out on 2

based on the time taq could attack us again after being cleared

[potent ibex]

Yeah but you lose momentum

[lost tangle]

lol i fucked up edens economy mid raid

idk how

but i managed to drain us by ourselves

but that was a fun raid

the ones where you get close to wipe are the best ones

[azure egret]

why is imp on prof

[earnest crypt]

except when it is dxp weekend :(

[lost tangle]

@potent ibex u know why is imp on prof?

didnt artemis had a neutrality agreement with them?/

[potent ibex]

Who knows what Imp up to

[azure egret]

girl

[lost tangle]

i mean imp is still art no?

[potent ibex]

Cath just owns the discord server so we just have to forcibly vibe

[azure egret]

kiwi girl??????/

[lost tangle]

lmao

yes im egirl buy me champ

np idc what ppl call me

just warning bc violating neutrality agreement is not coolio

[potent ibex]

It was a misfire

https://tenor.com/view/makeitstop-i-just-want-it-to-stop-stop-gif-6202313

ERN’s victims rn

[stuck saddle]

Like ERN wasn't an empire back in 1.19 ._.

[pulsar raft]

1.20 is almost exactly the opposite of 1.19

[runic dove]

chungle chicken

[thick night]

i need a guild for the 10 war requirement for the tome thing

i have ignis build

anyone wanna inv me

[potent ibex]

ERN was our most powerful guild pre 1.20

They played a significant part in Artemis’s survival carrying up to the update

Even after AVO, TNL and IBT left/got kicked

Artemis was able to remain fairly stable

ERN was a good team player

Even now they basically lead any opposition effort

Kinda a shame

Working so hard while we be vibing 😔

Yes

But they still are post 1.20

[cloud pier]

ice rly went full circle

from a fox simp to an ern simp

incredible

[potent ibex]

Fox was OP

But tbh they didn’t really do much for the alliance in terms of helping allies 👀

They would come in on the big raids

[cloud pier]

EDN is the same tbh

to SOME extend

like when helping allies we pull 3-4 ppl (our main warrers usually)

[potent ibex]

ERN actually helped a lot and helped the alliance effort

Fox was basically last ditch effort

[cloud pier]

and when defending our own claim we pull anywhere from 6 to 12

[potent ibex]

I had like over 8 people yesterday including myself but haha not enough dps

[hollow willow]

my favorite was seeing fox on FFAs while everyone was dying

[potent ibex]

Our dps was sleeping

[potent ibex]

This

[hollow willow]

real question doe

is TNL getting fed all FFA and putting 22k on them right before the start of Goose-Artemis war what got them busted?

[potent ibex]

huh

[cloud pier]

do you want me to send builds 🥺

vova and i have made

AWESOME buidls .

my fucking cata build soloed a high hq like 5 times now

[potent ibex]

Yes please

I have a monster build

I had like 5 KOH healers yesterday and a Guardian

But our planned main sources of dps fell asleep

Cough Cal

I did not like where we were told to attack

[sand lichen]

have multiple classes

so you can swap between dps and heal as needed

[potent ibex]

I am working on it but

I was suppose to get a Hero build but then

My Hero got given to someone else

[earnest crypt]

Yeah we also don't have many people assisting when it's far away

But when we get raided we can pull quite a few

[warm knoll]

embeds are still removed? lmao

[bitter bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/bronwie-shut-up-bronwie-gif-19682564

[potent ibex]

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/guild-owners-hate-them-find-out-how-to-get-to-level-91-with-this-simple-trick.287765/

[earnest crypt]

What

1b every 10 min?

Bruh

[potent ibex]

CATH THREAD CATH THREAD

[earnest crypt]

Ok

If 1 person grinds

They get x xp an hour

If 2 people grind together

One person gets x an hour

[shut perch]

this was 100m per min

from 1 person

[earnest crypt]

The other gets 10x an hour

It's not ff

It's wynn

It's consistent everywhere else

No one just gets 100m a min

[atomic glacier]

with the current system one person grinding basically steals all the xp from othe rpeople around them

just saying

no one really knows how it works but we think there's something to do with like UUID or something

[potent ibex]

It’s dumb. They completely sliced level reqs on the basis they believed it would be significantly harder to level when y’all out out grinding every single territory combined in 1.19

[atomic glacier]

mm

[half musk]

yeah someone really wasnt thinking when they added all the multiplication lmao

[atomic glacier]

even without guild boosts we would still be getting 3x every other guild atm

[half musk]

charm moment

[atomic glacier]

because of just how much we grind compared to other people

[potent ibex]

Yeah, all that multiplication is absolutely scuffed

The charm too lmao

But hey, if it exists it exists, just like how glowbulb existed.

[atomic glacier]

it definitely isn't balanced though

[potent ibex]

Cannot really blame guilds for using something they made, but yeah, gotta hope something is done

[earnest crypt]

Anyone can grind church and get close to our xp if the used the same amount of totems and time

[potent ibex]

Silly decisions by the devs

Not necessarily

The multiplier is insane

[earnest crypt]

It doesn't work on totems

[atomic glacier]

yep

[forest magnet]

totems dont give xp

[potent ibex]

Even then, that amount of xp should not be achievable given how bad level reqs got nerfed

[atomic glacier]

well theres that now

[forest magnet]

thats why it doesnt work

if they change totems then it will

[atomic glacier]

ur just wrong

[half musk]

even before totems broke they werent wroking

the guild xp multiplier only applied on mobs that spawned naturally

[atomic glacier]

guild boosts just don't affect totem mobs

guild xp multipliers, mob damage, etc

[potent ibex]

Like they nerfed level requirements on the basis leveling would be harder but this is achievable lmao

Explain

They completely slashed level reqs

[atomic glacier]

eh even without guild boosts you can still get numbers like

26m/minute

or more

its still

[potent ibex]

Guild boosts are really helpful but level reqs should be fixed or something given the fact what they thought is clearly not the case

[atomic glacier]

triple glowbulb optimized

previously

[potent ibex]

I mean, overall, xp is more grind based than actual warring now

[atomic glacier]

like the amoutn of xp you get atm with no guild boost is literally comparable to pre nerf glowbulb

[hazy bloom]

Wait

[atomic glacier]

just saying

[potent ibex]

Doesn’t make it right lmao

[earnest crypt]

It always was

[hazy bloom]

Is guild gather xp bonus also multiplicative?

[potent ibex]

Given these level requirements

[atomic glacier]

every xp bonus that isn't like same name

is multiplicative

[hazy bloom]

Oh no

[oak dagger]

guild boosts were a BAD IDEA

[atomic glacier]

yeah

[potent ibex]

It should be additive

[oak dagger]

ty for coming

[hazy bloom]

How fast can you lvl now?

[atomic glacier]

fast

[potent ibex]

Dummy fast

[half musk]

insanely fast

[oak dagger]

tfw prof boost used to be 300% too :doom:

[potent ibex]

They completely reduced level reqs on the basis they “thought” it would be harder

[hazy bloom]

(regarding gather profs)

[half musk]

also insanely fast

[potent ibex]

This is why our leaderboard is dipshit because they make so many bad decisions that invalidate work and make it imbalanced

[oak dagger]

131 to 132 with full guild boost and ~150% gxp from armor is 2 hours

[hazy bloom]

...

[oak dagger]

probbalt closer to 2.5 to 3 due to slow down

[hazy bloom]

With or without bombs?

[oak dagger]

but its 12.5% per tool

[atomic glacier]

profs moment

[oak dagger]

with bombs ofc

[hazy bloom]

Ah

[potent ibex]

Guild boosts moment

[atomic glacier]

gather xp was a mistake

[hazy bloom]

I'm always grinding without bombs

[oak dagger]

its 8 hours without bombs

[atomic glacier]

i stand by that

[hazy bloom]

Because of champion slots

[oak dagger]

which is still crazy

tbh

[atomic glacier]

hunted was literally just way better ngl

[hazy bloom]

They made it impossible to get into prof worlds

[atomic glacier]

at least

[oak dagger]

yeah i hate it lmao

[atomic glacier]

i'd prefer getting hunted to level 131s earning 32k xp

[oak dagger]

1.20 is a fucking mess for profs

[hazy bloom]

@atomic glacier imo they should buff hunted to +100% gather xp

[atomic glacier]

sure

[oak dagger]

hunted

[atomic glacier]

i loved hunted ngl

[oak dagger]

should not bebuffed

fuck hunted mode

lmao

[atomic glacier]

getting hunted was the shit

[oak dagger]

its just a toxicity magnet

[atomic glacier]

maybe

idk if thats a problem with hunted itself or like just hte reaction the community gave

[oak dagger]

its hunted

its basically an invite to mess with people who are just grinding

tbh

[atomic glacier]

yes

but thats the tradeoff

and i think that's healthier than ooga booga crafted armor

[earnest crypt]

Hunted was a great idea

[oak dagger]

dont worry

guild boost exists now

[atomic glacier]

true

[oak dagger]

so theres still that avenue to fuck with people lmao

[atomic glacier]

imp moment

PROF RAID PROF RAID

[potent ibex]

We aren’t saying y’all didn’t work hard, the problem is with the new level reqs

[atomic glacier]

i agree

also

[potent ibex]

The new level reqs are jokes in comparison with the old ones

[oak dagger]

huh

[atomic glacier]

the problem is with the math

[potent ibex]

But people can still pull out crazy xp

[oak dagger]

tying ingame boosts to terrs

was an awful idea

guild tome moment

[atomic glacier]

i think tehre's some guilds selling them

[oak dagger]

is that any better ?

[pulsar raft]

selling guild tomes

[atomic glacier]

no

[pulsar raft]

is a pain in the ass lol

[atomic glacier]

but im just saying there are some guilds that are

[oak dagger]

i can get g tomes

thats not why im complaining

the system is just bad

lmao

[atomic glacier]

i agree

atlas inc really wants them guild tomes

[oak dagger]

i got a str/dex one lmfao

for my wfa build 😔

[atomic glacier]

str dex is hoenstly the wrost fuckign combo

[oak dagger]

tbh sp on tomes was a bad idea too

but thats a diff discussion

[atomic glacier]

i think its cool

but

[oak dagger]

its fine if they dont contribute to reqs

but tbey do which is e

[atomic glacier]

i mean it just mkaes building slightly more flexible

if they didnt contribute to reqs the only useful one is like intel

[pulsar raft]

lol I have that one

[atomic glacier]

the other oens are just negligible

[oak dagger]

lfg

for something so hsrd to get for most players

it should be negligble

[hazy bloom]

ET tomes in ETF / ETFA are very nice

[oak dagger]

SP on raid tomes is e still, but better

imo

since theyre more widely available

you dont need to be a warslave or pals with your guild chief to get one

[empty smelt]

Hi

[potent ibex]

Bruh

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-fine-itsfine-burning-flame-my-life-going-so-far-gif-5182223

Guy on the thread rn ^

[atomic glacier]

i think this is like more of a problem with the guidls themselves

our guild hosts events to give tomes away

so i think its mostly jsut a probelm with leadership in guilds

[narrow thunder]

imagine having tomes 😢

[rapid arch]

This is actually the funny

[solid flame]

you can put your guild tome on other classes

its not soulbound (or at least it worked when I tried)

[potent ibex]

Anyways, the problem is not with the do earned itself, although the numbers coming in are very high

[limber river]

dooooo

[potent ibex]

It is really the fact that level reqs were hardcore nerfed

Despite this

With the thought process that it would be significantly harder to level

But as with much of the system, it didn’t turn out how they thought it would

A lot of the things they conceptualized turned out differently

That’s why the system is constantly changing and being balanced

[oak dagger]

i have 1 class 😳

lmfao

but yes ik theyre untradeable

[rapid arch]

What if we wiped sky and grinded on Dxp Weekend 😳 👉👈

Would this message of existed?

Find out after the break!

[hazy bloom]

You spent so many hours on profs but never cared to lvl a 2nd class?

[rigid valley]

im onwhat be a guild tome

[oak dagger]

yes

i have a shaman but its only for LB now

lmfao

i have a hic too but its like lvl 18

i genuinely do not like replaying the game

id rather work on 1 class

[solid flame]

???

[rigid valley]

what be a guild tome

[narrow thunder]

A different type of tome that gives skill points

Instead of damage increase/reduction

There are raid, weapon, armor, and guild tomes

[solid flame]

Guilds that have territories can do tome seeking and find them. Than a chief can contribute the tomes to a member

[narrow thunder]

Imo tomes should be dropped after a successful war

well a chance after a war

[hollow willow]

omw to grind tomes with a subguild

[bitter bobcat]

no.

[jovial stirrup]

🐒

[shut perch]

🐒

[jovial stirrup]

:D

[shut perch]

All the 🐒 4 u :D

[lost tangle]

🐒

[sage surge]

🐒

[hollow elk]

🐒

[rapid arch]

🐒

[rapid arch]

CarrutPai

[flint junco]

[tight cloak]

🐒

[warm knoll]

hi

[shut perch]

hi#

[fallow schooner]

yo what guild should i join

[hollow willow]

check pins

[sage granite]

[doin] yo mom

[shut perch]

[chry]sitis

[stark breach]

any xp bombs?

[limber river]

noe

[sage granite]

prof bombs in war1

[hollow willow]

HEY

THATS

MY

JOKE

wait right I cant post image

[sage granite]

LOL

my joke now

[half musk]

hi chewy

[sage granite]

shut up poolong

[warm knoll]

🐒

[ancient arch]

🐒

[lost tangle]

🐒

[shut perch]

🐒

[sage surge]

🐒

[fossil meadow]

🐒

[earnest crypt]

🐒

[final token]

🐒

[limber river]

🐒

[soft cairn]

🐒

[tribal kelp]

🐒

[shadow thorn]

the average atlas inc member ^^^

[soft cairn]

Opus maximus

Opus maximus

[spiral berry]

yes

[tribal kelp]

Average highbread who ruined monky chain^^^

[wide shadow]

[sage surge]

monke

[fading shard]

hi guys

AVO

ok bye

[shut perch]

i am

a

yes

[ancient arch]

I am

🐒

[warm leaf]

whats a good guild I can join

[ancient arch]

Pin 📌

[trim wedge]

[warm leaf]

?

[limber river]

look pins

[earnest crypt]

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/read-before-applying-to-a-guild-all-currently-recruiting-guilds-megalist.278112/

[wide shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-meme-epic-embed-gif-19473600

irony

[ripe grail]

im extremely sad about falco

can gabi just die already?

[deep chasm]

uh

i wanna spoil both of you so bad

[sage granite]

are both of you anime onlys

[limber river]

iahteanime

[sage granite]

same

but aot is an exception

[hollow willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254498368263290883/763523243856232458/Qc_gang.mov

VIVE LE QUÉBEC LIBRE

[wet ruin]

Uhh

So what happens now that Hax got overtaken as no 1 lvl guild

[limber river]

🤷‍♂️

[final token]

@limber river go to bed idiot

[limber river]

1.20 leveling be kind monkey

EVE online is calling my name sam

[final token]

I mean with or without 1.20 leveling

Hax would've been passed

[limber river]

AVO would have done it eventually

[final token]

eventually

this just sped it up

nothing more

[limber river]

but the 50bil in a day is kinda excessive

[final token]

Yeah def

but its not like Hax can hold #1 forever

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limber river]

time 4 sleep

[half musk]

'kinda' excessive 🥴

literally nuts how this was added into the game lol

wynncraft moment

[potent ibex]

Wow

Literally in a day you got that level

[rigid valley]

ESI

[potent ibex]

That amount of xp has never once been viable

That is the highest amount of XP earned by a guild within a 24 hour period

And to think they slashed level reqs

[half musk]

lmao we were doing some math and we thought it would take 2 weeks but these two sweats just grinded nonstop and got like 25 bill together as only 2 people

[azure egret]

dababy [baby]

[sage granite]

who pinged me

[potent ibex]

WTF

[half musk]

@sage granite

[sage granite]

@half musk

[half musk]

hi

chew pee

[potent ibex]

Yeah this is absolutely sad

That it had come to this lmao

You would think glowbulb was the last of it

[half musk]

wynncraft moment

[final token]

its inevitable

this just sped it up

nothing more

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[half musk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[potent ibex]

Even Fox couldn’t topple Hax in the old dynamic because Hax owned the entire map for over a year following Gavel release and a huge hype

They reaped all the gains from that

[final token]

they could

[wet ruin]

mhm

[final token]

Fox just chose not to

[potent ibex]

I said in the old dynamic

[rigid valley]

hax as in hack forums?

[final token]

Yeah

[wet ruin]

ye

[potent ibex]

The new system is absolutely broken for leveling and invalidated years of effort

[rigid valley]

bc im pretty sure they are second place

[final token]

Hax lost its position has #1

Yeah they are now

After today

[potent ibex]

It became possible because years of xp were invalidated

[wet ruin]

wdym

[final token]

I mean

Hax's levels are majority glitch xp

[potent ibex]

Hax never was really recognized as #1 to be fair because of how they achieved it.

[final token]

so hold them up to that standard as well

[potent ibex]

Exactly

[final token]

they abused a shit ton to get that level

so many bugs were used to maintain map control

😔

[potent ibex]

Hax was ridiculed and criticized and their accomplishments always overplayed by that fact

[wet ruin]

like what

[potent ibex]

They did not get away with it lmao

Not in the slightest

[final token]

Yeah they did

All that was added was a sub rule

that was broken a year later

they walked away with everything

massive bank massive level

[potent ibex]

Most people did not really recognize Hax as #1

[final token]

idk what ur on

[potent ibex]

You said reputation

[final token]

literally everyone does

[potent ibex]

Not physical gains

[wet ruin]

what did they do?

[final token]

im talking both ice

Hax abused glitches for their level

[potent ibex]

No, because the leaderboard is scuffed lmao people didn’t really recognize Hax as #1 because they got there because they owned the map for over an entire year due to it being broken

[final token]

AVO literally used what was implemented in the game before devs bothered to test it

[half musk]

basically leaderboard is meaningless and so is level

[final token]

its not AVos fault

like it was Hax's

Hax knew what they were doing

morally AVOs gains are much cleaner then Haxs

[potent ibex]

It isn’t their fault, it just means the leaderboard is invalidated. But that isn’t new

[wet ruin]

mhm

[final token]

AVO just used what was given

[potent ibex]

It has been for a long time

[final token]

What

[potent ibex]

The leaderboard has always been inconsistent because xp values have never been consistent

[final token]

Yeah?

[half musk]

yeah that's kinda how it's always been

[potent ibex]

Yeah

[rigid valley]

would you believe me if i said i didnt know about hax until today

[final token]

LOL

F

[hollow willow]

Lel

[potent ibex]

So what does the leaderboard actually represent then if it isn’t consistent

[wet ruin]

lmao

remember seeing hax had 300 terrs like in 2015

[copper parcel]

aight whats the rant about tonight gamers

[half musk]

a really cool number

[potent ibex]

The fact that the #1 guild on the leaderboard was a guild that abused glitches and owned the entire map for over a year unchallenged due to bugs

Shows that

[wet ruin]

wynn good game

[hollow willow]

Thats why I keep saying we need more hb tests

[half musk]

it's the one about invalidated xp again

[copper parcel]

ah yes

[devout crow]

ah yes

[wet ruin]

Petition to revert all updates after and including the one where the forest village got reworked

[devout crow]

what is happening?

[half musk]

time for all guilds to reset to lvl 1

[wet ruin]

yes

reset all guilds

[copper parcel]

time to delete all guilds

[wet ruin]

and reset nivlia forest village

to its former glory

[hollow willow]

Bro yes

[sage granite]

just grind to #1 xp lol

[final token]

Reset EM

[hollow willow]

Bring back THE og nivla forest village

[final token]

DoWN WITH GUILDS

!

[wet ruin]

yes

[devout crow]

everyone do /gu disband?

[sage granite]

nivla village didnt change what

[hollow willow]

Bring back IB

[potent ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/780161686845390898/818384412764667935/image0.png

[hollow willow]

Ahah nooob

[potent ibex]

Guilds will obviously abuse anything out in the game

They don’t actually check and make sure

[hollow willow]

U can only post text

[potent ibex]

So we keep getting situations like this

[wet ruin]

You hit your head pretty hard. guilds? 1.20? Hax? what are you talking about. Me and the boys are going to forest village.

[copper parcel]

You hit your head pretty hard. guilds? 1.20? Hax? what are you talking about. Me and the boys are going to forest village.

[hollow willow]

Then why dont you do it so you pass AVO in lvl and be #1

[sage granite]

just grind lol

[wet ruin]

its just not worth the effort

[final token]

You hit your head pretty hard. guilds? 1.20? Hax? what are you talking about. Me and the boys are going to forest village.

[devout crow]

come CYX help us get 70?

[wet ruin]

better to build a good community than a fragile one build on no 1

[hollow willow]

I thought you could earn 1B xp in 1h, how is it hard then?

[potent ibex]

This isn’t a failure to adapt. This is clearly problematic and should be addressed lmao

[sage granite]

[copper parcel]

Bruh you say that about everything

[potent ibex]

I mean, Goden’s suggestion has unanimous support

[hollow willow]

We Know

[sage granite]

okay but if you grind maybe you wont complain as much lol

[potent ibex]

War costs are now free, guild slots now are buffed for everyone, and pity still protects defenders while not outright canceling attackers. All reasonable changes.

[wet ruin]

"And Squid helped me realise that the number 1 guild level rank was nothing but a trap, to continue holding ti"

[potent ibex]

Even guilds that abused glowbulb back then pushed for its removals

[wet ruin]

actual quote from the video

[potent ibex]

These numbers absolutely crush glowbulb lmao

And keep in mind leve reqs got slashed

[wet ruin]

well you have to sacrifice morals

[hollow willow]

Damn I fucking love the half life Series OST

[wet ruin]

to survive

[half musk]

idk the thing with Hax getting all that xp is that it was all gltiched, no one else could do it. glow bulb and FF on the other hand, any guild can just grind, it doesn't really invalidate old effort because you can just put more effort in and gridn the same as any other guild

it does suck that the numbers are massive and op

[wet ruin]

I still dont know how they managed to glitch xp

[half musk]

but the opportunity is available for anyone

[wet ruin]

they just buy gxp off of the black market or smthing

[potent ibex]

That doesn’t mean it is perfect

It’s obviously broken

[half musk]

well obviously

[potent ibex]

It definitely should be addressed

[half musk]

we did a full level in a day

[potent ibex]

And you are the highest level. .

That would have typically taken monthsss

[hollow willow]

Change subject, we'll discuss the biggest problem of how can Half life: return to Ravenholm can't be canon

[potent ibex]

It’s hilarious how they cut level reqs on the basis it might be harder to level when we just saw gains never seen before

[hollow willow]

So return to ravenholm is either set before or after half life 2

[potent ibex]

Over 40 billion

[half musk]

the argument should be that this one way of leveling is too fast, not that we have somehow ruined our reputation by shitting on other guilds progress or taken advantage of something that literally anyone else could've

[potent ibex]

I’m not pushing that

[sage granite]

hey ice maybe instead of complaining you can abuse the same thing avo is abusing while you wait for it to get fixed

[potent ibex]

You have mainly brought attention to the issue. The fault is on the developers tho

[hollow willow]

But in return to ravenholm, Adrian Sheppard has to kill a zombified Father Gregory, meaning Father Gregory cannot be alive in HL2

[gentle iris]

Join cyxz

[sage granite]

join kyn

[tired wigeon]

why is this still being discussed, aren’t all guild leaders already in favour of nerfing it?

[potent ibex]

Nah, I like our progress being recognized as legitimate. Anything remotely controversial I stay away from.

[copper parcel]

Cause this is ice

[potent ibex]

Just because we are in favor doesn’t mean it will happen lmao

That discord isn’t anything official

[sage granite]

oh so you just want to use the moral highground

[potent ibex]

Suggestions are not official votes

[hollow willow]

But if return to ravenholm is set after HL2, then father grigory already died burning at the end of the ravenholm chapter, meaning he cant be alive for it

[sage granite]

and then complain when your guild falls behind

[wet ruin]

like

i understand ice

he has a point'

[gentle iris]

Alexa play 'All guilds are the same' by Goose WRLD

[tired wigeon]

but a lot of your suggestions became reality, you even said so yourself in the discord

[potent ibex]

I have my guild slots. That’s all I want. I am merely unhappy by the fact developers keep doing things without testing it like bruh

[sage granite]

mm that is their fault

[hollow willow]

Tho say Father Grigory did survive burning himself back in ravenholm

[half musk]

a problem with 1.20 as a whole tbh

[potent ibex]

Exactly

[wet ruin]

where can I start a 'BRING BACK OLD FOREST VILLAGE' petition?

[potent ibex]

There was not enough testing for so many of the mechanics

[gentle iris]

Hi ice

[half musk]

release rushed 😔

[potent ibex]

They opened hero beta but it’s exclusiveness could not provide much legitimate testing

[wet ruin]

the staff are all volunteers arent they

[potent ibex]

Sim

[half musk]

bring back the gavel release timing

delay everything

[potent ibex]

Well, Salted and developers get paid

[wet ruin]

by ranks

oh yeah

[potent ibex]

Yes, we support the server.

[hollow willow]

Then it mean HL:Return to ravenholm has to be set between Gordon Freeman leaving Ravenholm and the citadel exploding

[wet ruin]

if there are so many problems

for so long

[potent ibex]

The system is getting better, but they continue to push things without much thought to the consequences or actual testing

[wet ruin]

yeah

[hollow willow]

Because judging by the general scale of the half life 2 world, Ravenholm is relatively close to city 17

[potent ibex]

Salted wanted wait times for cedes to be 6 hours

[wet ruin]

1.20 release was nasty

[potent ibex]

1.20 release is basically unrecognizable from today

[gentle iris]

That poopoo

[earnest crypt]

I dont get what caused the ceding changes

[hollow willow]

Close enough atleast to be destroyed by the blast

[wet ruin]

so wynn was always a potato server

[potent ibex]

No one even suggested cede wait times, but it happened. I swear so had no part 😔

[gentle iris]

I mean it didn't save ANO HQ 😳

[hollow willow]

Theres also the idea of having non headcrab zombies which has no sense in half life

[half musk]

it's interesting to me that they added guild ally feature and trading and all that but make it basically impossible to assist allies

[wet ruin]

We need to remove the women and children in wynncraft

too many peeps are testing dmg on them

so much harassment

[hollow willow]

The race X alien in Half Life opposing force makes more sense because The other Half Life 1 games pretty much cover different places and times in Black Mesa

[wet ruin]

but did you know

that Yharim was saved

by his dragon

[potent ibex]

They should make it so that ceding is dependent on your HQ location to promote ally support from regional allies, wait times being longer if you are on the other side of the map. Restricting neighboring allies tho like this is 👎

[copper parcel]

The cede cooldowns do nothing but make life as a defender more difficult

[wet ruin]

what is cede

[half musk]

that makes sense

[potent ibex]

Well, they do something, but it shouldn’t be doing that for neighboring allies lmao

[wet ruin]

mhm

[hollow willow]

Barney Calhoun in Blue Shift escape Black Mesa pretty fast, in approximately 24h which is pretty much before Addrian Sheppard squad is sent in Black Mesa

[copper parcel]

Not really though

[gentle iris]

Join cyxz

[potent ibex]

In a way they make ceding so inconvenient that it’s better just for the guild to reclaim lmao

[wet ruin]

The brimstone elemental was the strongest of the 5 sister

but then a witch

slapped her home

now she very angery

[copper parcel]

There's like 15 conversations rn

[sage granite]

[hollow willow]

While Gordon Freeman teleports into Xen while Sheppard is starting to enter Black Mesa

[wet ruin]

yes

[potent ibex]

Because people are talking about something completely unrelated to guilds

[wet ruin]

wdym

this is guild talk

[copper parcel]

:catgun:

[wet ruin]

right revert guilds

[sage granite]

brb calling minimod

[half musk]

this is absolutely normal for guild politics channel

meme cesspool

[earnest crypt]

true

[wet ruin]

tru

[potent ibex]

#🍺general exists tho

[copper parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/colonel-sanders-colonel-sanders-standers-colonel-standers-gif-18350147

[sage granite]

@limber river people are talking not politic in guild politic channel in wynncraft discord please mod

[gentle iris]

All the guild problems would be solved if u just join cyxz

[copper parcel]

@limber river people are talking not politic in guild politic channel in wynncraft discord please mod

[devout crow]

so low quality

[wet ruin]

abandon guilds

return to temple of legends grinding

[hollow willow]

So in conclusion, its highly logical that race X aliens enter black Mesa as Gordon Freeman is entering Xen, but for Half Life: return to ravenholm it would make no sense to have a different kind of zombies be present in ravenholm

[copper parcel]

i have failed

wynn discord no gif powers too strong for me

[sage granite]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, ern is taking our se terrs and we need to get a screenshot of all ffas

[hollow willow]

Now for another important debate

[tribal marten]

ironman btw

[sage granite]

linny go to bed

[hollow willow]

Is Half Life:Opposing Force cannon

[sage granite]

[tribal marten]

it’s only 11:45 :(

go to school

[sage granite]

craftsman btw

[copper parcel]

Wynncraft? MMORPG? What are you talking about? CraftedMovie just uploaded another video, let's go watch it

[sage granite]

@final token

[hollow willow]

In my mind Half Life opposing force IS cannon

[final token]

@sage granite

[wet ruin]

HICH? The Eye? What are you talking about. They just released a new texturepack into wynn and we're testing it

[hollow willow]

Because the other game (half life 1 and Blue shift) do Not have the same timeline and areas Really as half life opposing force does

[half musk]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, we're defending 0 on ffas to save emeralds because we want a shiny new banner

[hollow willow]

So the différences between the 3 games arent enough to exclude opposing force from being canon

[sage granite]

PLEASE DO NOT REMIND ME OF THAT

[final token]

😳

[half musk]

:glance:

[final token]

0 defenses

best defenses

[sage granite]

literally just

[wet ruin]

You slept for pretty long. Pity? Raids? What are you talking about? Me and the boys are going to Dcave to grind

[copper parcel]

who has the copypasta

[sage granite]

trying to war 100 terrs daily and ERN are defing 0

and then avo kept having the same arguments about which def we should use

[tribal marten]

10 mobs

the war starts

the mobs aren’t loading

oh fuck

[sage granite]

its was so fucking annoyoing

[half musk]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, we're sniping phi terrs while they FFA in SE for free xp

[hollow willow]

Also that Opposing force do contain canon elements: like black ops also killing marines, G man nuking Black Mesa, Gordon taking the teleporter to Xen, etc.

[earnest crypt]

phi? wdym oolong just raided ANO

[half musk]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, we're sitting on lost atoll for 8 hours a day while kakos defs 1 on it

[potent ibex]

huh

[wet ruin]

Guild Towers? Warring? What are you talking about? Me and the boys are going to try spider dungeon

[half musk]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, we're begging whisper for help reclaiming in south canyon bc lxt put 22ks and I just joined the guild and don't know how to war

[sage granite]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, eden just got wiped again and we need to reclaim for them

[hollow willow]

Oh and Sheppard do have to fight xen creatures like headcrabs and their zombies, vortigaunts and houndeyes

[wet ruin]

Guild towers? Goose? what are you talking about, me and the boys gonna get some aeroli boots form the suspended flowers quest

[half musk]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, im getting hard carried by avo while shy abuses phi

[wet ruin]

I still miss them

[final token]

yall wack

[earnest crypt]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, we taking "good se" thinking they give xp

[half musk]

LOL WAIT

[hollow willow]

Guild towers? Goose? Are you mad?!?! Loulou just pinged us for wars! Eden has nobody online quick!

[final token]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, we taking how toxic TNL is for defending 0s

[half musk]

DID EVERYONE END UP FINDING OUT THE SE TERRS DONT EVEN GIVE XP

[ripe grail]

goose

[half musk]

guild towers? goose? what are you talking about, we're fighting 1k fire mages

[ripe grail]

more like

go OSE

[sage granite]

im going to spoil aot manga

[ripe grail]

do not

unless gabi dies

[half musk]

hi going to spoil aot manga

[ripe grail]

then do

or if falco lives

then do as well

[hollow willow]

Overall, I think Half Life opposing force adds on a lotta sauce to the story and as Gman says "ties the loose ends" to elements that needed further exploration like Black Mesa studying Xen creatures or Gman nuking black mesa

[ripe grail]

@hollow willow can we kiss

[hollow willow]

Only if you have half life 3

[sage granite]

why would you kiss pou pou

stinky

[hollow willow]

Ok, thief

[sage granite]

doin yo mom

[hollow willow]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-ragememe-rageface-trolling-gif-4929853

[sage granite]

anyone ever wonder why you have foot fingers

[hollow willow]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnitebattleroyalewww-gif-18955792

[sage granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-ferret-thats-my-food-get-out-come-here-gif-7943423

[hollow willow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-fortnite-fortnite-time-funny-gif-12352968

[sage granite]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789332941493764168/810707242512154634/aj.gif

[copper parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/colonel-sanders-sanders-shirtless-dancing-gif-17657991

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-kfc-hot-sanders-colonel-sanders-gif-19365450

https://tenor.com/view/dolph-ziggler-wwe-colonel-sanders-kfc-yeah-gif-12299798

https://tenor.com/view/colonel-sanders-sanders-shirtless-dancing-gif-17657991

https://tenor.com/view/wrestling-kfc-chicken-gif-9769640

[hollow willow]

https://tenor.com/view/bushes-fortnite-homer-simpson-bye-gif-15363957

[devout crow]

why are they so many links

[hollow willow]

https://tenor.com/view/ダンス-屁こき-おなら-ガス-fart-gif-15787704

[devout crow]

@sage granite can i see ur GUI?

setup

or whatever ur screen is

cuz how u war with that

[hollow willow]

Its bcs im sending death threat to Nia

[sage granite]

how do i war with what

https://youtu.be/JW12RW5TNuY

[half musk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/473289130155966465/766180162374467594/2020-10-15_12.56.11.png?width=1191&height=670

chewy warring

no texture pack

1 render distance

map in the middle

[devout crow]

.-.

'-'

[half musk]

(shes literally insane)

[devout crow]

how do u see

why is uproot in the middle

when u use it

and aftershock

[sage granite]

i moved the spell bar to the middle

and aftershock is aftershock

[tribal marten]

ngl. i just straight up removed the hp and mana bars and just use text

the wynntils hp bars are all bad imo

[azure egret]

less goo

[warm knoll]

please babe

you're not dababy

[sage granite]

STOP GHOST PIng

[final token]

uwu

Def is oolong

[sage granite]

:oolong

@half musk

[final token]

def not me

😳

[sage granite]

@final token

[final token]

@sage granite

[sage granite]

@Sam.#1366

[final token]

@sage granite

[sage granite]

ahshjfkwbxjrle

[final token]

fanerwjo;dvahef

ok gn

[half musk]

IT WASNT ME

i can't believe I'm being framed

[final token]

@half musk get framed

stupid frog

[sage granite]

stupid frog

[azure egret]

less goo

[half musk]

😦

[ripe grail]

ngl u kinda look like dababy

[gentle iris]

join cyxz

[lucid wagon]

is there a guild with people around lvl 50 or below that needs members

[rocky coyote]

Level 50

Guild

[sage granite]

[devout crow]

chryssie i wanna join kyn

gib link

[sage granite]

can you send discord links here

[devout crow]

no

[limber river]

bingus republic

[azure egret]

bingus republic

bingus [bngs]

[short steeple]

chrysitis

[copper parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/colonel-sanders-colonel-sanders-standers-colonel-standers-gif-18350147

[bitter bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/tgwtg-that-guy-with-the-glasses-doug-walker-point-computer-gif-17022655

[sage granite]

GOD I WANT TO POST PK PALACE SO BAD

[limber river]

Pk palace

[ember cloak]

stop ghosting pinging the king of ragni thx

wtf

[sleek jungle]

@ember cloak

:)

[thorny wing]

@ember cloak

[sleek jungle]

@ember cloak

[sage granite]

doin yo mom

[sleek jungle]

straight doin yo mom

[ripe grail]

@clever lotus

can we have perms for images pls

[clever lotus]

I don't even have perms, gamer

[ripe grail]

pass

it

to salted

[clever lotus]

maybe it's better this way

[ripe grail]

why

[azure egret]

it is not

[ripe grail]

ppl still post images

[azure egret]

pls

give

[ripe grail]

they just send image links

instead of showing the pic

and no one is being serious either

so no point

[azure egret]

links=dangerous

[ripe grail]

links are harder to moderate

[azure egret]

someone can click on one thinking its an image

[ripe grail]

than images

tbh

[azure egret]

yep very true

[ripe grail]

so we have points

that stand

[azure egret]

making a change.org petition

[ripe grail]

yes

should i make it?

[azure egret]

yes

[ripe grail]

gamering

[azure egret]

i have no idea how to

[ripe grail]

brb checking what u need to make it

neither do i

but it cant be that hard

http://chng.it/bYDM2pVdBk

@azure egret

sign

the petition

[azure egret]

signing

[ripe grail]

@shut perch @cloud pier

[shut perch]

hlelo

[ripe grail]

http://chng.it/bYDM2pVdBk

sign

@warm pine

[azure egret]

WHY

isn't it

showing my sign

WTF

[ripe grail]

random ppl are commenting

im in confusion

[azure egret]

HOW DO I DO THIS

WTF

I did it like 3 times

and it still shows 1 has signed

wtf

[autumn belfry]

fate's telling you that it's not worth the effort

[limpid stratus]

why would you make a petition of all things just to get image perms back on this channel

[azure egret]

extremely important

just want to post dababy 😭

[solid sandal]

just get someone to pin a map of territories and you have all the relevant images tbh

[limpid stratus]

it's time for you to look inward, and begin asking yourself the big questions

[sand lichen]

smh even mods don't have image perms apparently

[knotty sedge]

how is it possible for a channel to be worse than #🌎wynncraft

[sand lichen]

how are you gonna send a map to pin

[limpid stratus]

were you using the image perms for the sake of it? or to help propagate the discussion?

[bitter bobcat]

what else would you make???

[autumn belfry]

you know #vip_room and #memes and #bombs_and_events and this channel all exist

[knotty sedge]

but how is this the only one to get image perms taken away

[short steeple]

i don't think you'd ever want actual guild politics in this channel