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#guild_community
narrow thunder
tough sentinel
can some1 dm me AVO s discord link plz?
ripe niche
i am the apex champion 😎
bitter bobcat
you're mom
astral ermine
vova the ebic
rapid arch
iojergjihoeijezru
azure egret
you're mom
yes i am mom
bitter bobcat
yuou are mom
odd oxide
warm knoll
mental marsh
what are some good guilds
hollow willow
shut perch
what are some good guilds
if you're lookin to join 1 check the pinned thread
azure egret
day 2 of waiting for channel to be renamed
mental marsh
how do i apply for a guild
shut perch
usually on their discord or forum page
ripe niche
they are pogger
mental marsh
smh
ripe niche
@rapid arch could u
mental marsh
wdym
mental marsh
how do i get to your discord
rapid arch
want me to dm you the link?
mental marsh
sure
rapid arch
@red monolith @elder shadow Ping moment
rapid arch
yes urby is in this server and so is doggy
ripe niche
well now they show up...
rapid arch
you on mobile
ornate forge
gyp not on top
elder shadow
I rejoined like
red monolith
me?
ripe niche
yeah
elder shadow
for some reason
red monolith
its 2 letters
rapid arch
yea mobile sucks for pining people ngl
ornate forge
mobile is great
ripe niche
that's why i couldn't find you but idk why i couldn't see doggy
red monolith
so why ping
elder shadow
there's an app on the forums
ripe niche
it's not necessary
elder shadow
or there's a google form lemme grab it
ornate forge
so why ping
someone was asking how to apply to avo
elder shadow
idk
ornate forge
ban
elder shadow
idgaf if I get banned from this discord, probably good if I am
red monolith
xD
ornate forge
currently dming salted about your heinous crimes
elder shadow
oh ok
red monolith
bad guy
elder shadow
that's great
rapid arch
Invited them into the server and guided them to the application so nw's
ornate forge
ply 4 chief
rapid arch
eh
elder shadow
- No inappropriate links, images, or language
(Links/messages cannot contain advertising of any kind, racism, pornography, gore, or any other disturbing things. Includes harassment and doxing)
I mean what I never posted anything
ornate forge
avo is a porn guild
elder shadow
how dare you expose us
ornate forge
oop
rapid arch
Avician application is harrassing and threatening. It asks for reasons and how you can contribute
rapid arch
Just think of one thing you do as an activity on wynn
and add that to the how you can contribute part
elder shadow
Anyone who wants to apply for Avicia DM me, I'll send you cute cat gifs and tell you we're full 👍
or dog gifs, you choose
lost tangle
Eden kicked 20 ppl 
potent ibex
thats nice
lost tangle
It was hard af to spot the inactives bc the api was down
We had to reinvite some ppl after
shut perch
It was hard af to spot the inactives bc the api was down
Use a better bot smh
lost tangle
the official api was dead at some point
nothing we could have done
and we needed space for new recruits
gentle iris
Join cyxz dm uwu
warm knoll
oh nmo
bitter bobcat
@warm knoll
warm knoll
hi
warm knoll
yellow
bitter bobcat
yes
potent ibex
hii
cloud pier
short steeple
warm pine
noble axle
lol
potent ibex
flint shuttle
sorry youre right, maybe this is more appropriate <#262011754450649088>
salted observing the guild community be like
sage granite
NOOOOO
flint shuttle
sage granite
tome screen
lost tangle
on one of the gathering tomes
its kinda sad u need to sum the wars on all characters im lucky i use mainly just one but to ppl that use more its a pain to know the actual total warcount
and having to do the quest just to see that is ew
sage granite
tomes are untradable
flint shuttle
Can I borrow someone's gathering tome
u just need the slot
potent ibex
so I need to do that whole quest?
little fern
any guikd recruiting lvl 80+ players ?
potent ibex
The truth is that we do not know specifically how pity functions due to the fact devs are not very forthcoming about how everything works for the purpose of preventing abuse
lost tangle
i disagree on the defender thing
i think it would be better if u were the defender asap as you got the claims
potent ibex
We do know that is it smart enough to identify who the legitimate defender is and was. Playing a defense stance does not give you the position of defender let alone allow you to reap the protections a defender has
potent ibex
i think it would be better if u were the defender asap as you got the claims
that would basically mean its a useless protection for the defender.
lost tangle
also sry if i said shit or was slightly toxic in a bit of my msgs i get heated up sometimes
i wasted so much time on this game already lmao
just delete wynn pls
it is still good ice
potent ibex
If attackers suddenly became defenders and got pity, it would basically invalidate the protection for the defender and make it a useless mechanic
lost tangle
bc the attacker needs to get so many claims
not rly that much
since defenders have banked up ems
potent ibex
if thats the case, why even have pity?
meh, you can drain a guild pretty significantly
lost tangle
and attackers generally barely have more than a few terrs do the pity woudnt work
lost tangle
meh, you can drain a guild pretty significantly
only if they dont react
lost tangle
ye just cede terrs
even removing the upgrades
already does a ton
tho it makes it easy for the attacker to get more terrs
still better than feeding them millions of emeralds
potent ibex
As I was saying, playing a defensive stance does not automatically make you the defender and give you the protections and benefits of this.
We know this because even after the defending guild is wiped, it STILL keeps its pity cost even if it hit zero. The system is still trying to help them and giving them protection in their eventual reclaim efforts. ERN yesterday even though they had wiped IBT and owned a mass of COTL, they still did not get any pity cost benefits because the system doesn't work like that.
lost tangle
making pity different for each attacker would fix all the problems imo
now time to ping salted so he sees this
@ Salted
potent ibex
ngl working out pity to be more around the individual guild would also prevent potential abuse of
an ally guild queued a ton of wars on another ally to activate pity
lost tangle
ye it prevents abuse
potent ibex
because it counts queued wars
lost tangle
prevent random attacks from impacting you
potent ibex
Yeah, Wynn gets poked a lot
lost tangle
and prevents beign softlocked bc the attacks cost more than 10k lmao
potent ibex
Nia seemed to have a pity on them quite often
And they didn't even have that much territories
I don't think it is territory defined
lost tangle
the first war
potent ibex
but then the 2nd one can be like hella expensive
potent ibex
the system is not dumb, it can identify who the defender is. Would be useless if it couldn't. It grants protection and pity to defending guilds that were even wiped
lost tangle
oh so it says the value but u dont pay?
potent ibex
I am pretty certain it is a time thing
significant time
The first war is free
entirely free
the 2nd is when you can see pity
which is what sucks
I have blindly attacked a guild and then I looked to see that my 2nd war was like 12k+
lost tangle
ye then u r already softlocked
potent ibex
I already made a thread about pity, you just happened to go talking about pity on the 1.20 poll one LMAO
lost tangle
ye ik but
the suggestion isnt there
no one reads comments
and its a huge wall of text
lost tangle
sure that would be great
potent ibex
I am not anti-pity, I just think the system should function more defined and be more catered to each guild
and just because you get territories doesn't mean you become the defender, attacking guilds don't reap the benefits of a defender
So this whole "attacker" and "defender" terms have been twisted to the current dynamic
In how the system was conceptualized, the attack and defender would be roles played by each guild. In essence, you are both
you attack, and you play defense. It would be a tug of war between empires of land in a struggle for greater dominance.
In the current dynamic of the map situation however, attacker is now synonymous with guilds with zero land
lost tangle
i woudnt mind a proper war event with artemis
we cede all of wynn and half ocean and have like a week of fighting
then cede back ofc
tho it isnt a smart idea for goose in general
it would be fun but bad for us
potent ibex
I wish the lot of you could experience pity the way we do tho
pity isn't necessarily bad for guilds with land
Most guilds with land can eat the cost from stockpiled resources
potent ibex
but attackers have no land and it is uh
lost tangle
is such a pain
potent ibex
I made a suggestion a long time ago about having
defense presets but
idk how hard that would be lmao
scarlet kayak
next patch will have a toned down "pity timer"
we call it rest limit internally but ye
potent ibex
omg 🙏
earnest crypt
I feel like if pity is activated
earnest crypt
Usually the defender is already down most terrs
scarlet kayak
yes
potent ibex
❤️
scarlet kayak
one thing peeps might not know about the rest limit is that it depends on the size of the empire that is getting attacked
big empires dont increase any rest limit when losing territories
small empire increases it faster when losing a territory
earnest crypt
Rest limit?
scarlet kayak
that feature is still in with the change in the upcoming patch
timber briar
cowman
scarlet kayak
pity timer if you prefer
scarlet kayak
wtf is that popular youtuber jared
earnest crypt
Ah
timber briar
i hope you all wished salted a happy birthday
scarlet kayak
not yet the 25th
timber briar
oh
earnest crypt
Oooh ill try to remember that
potent ibex
Yeah, we could attack AVO and it only activated each time when they hit around 7 territories, around there
so we also figured it does take into account land mass
potent ibex
Split among like 2054858 guilds, yes
earnest crypt
Exactly
lost tangle
eden never will have the pity activated then :D
earnest crypt
The issue is you can't pile 10 guilds on 1
scarlet kayak
i think rest limit only increase if the guild losing a territory has 20 or less total terr
potent ibex
pity activates later on for guilds with lots of land, but once it does, ur fucked
earnest crypt
Ah I see
potent ibex
and its a nuisance for guilds that weren't even attacking
lost tangle
well now that it changed and wont proc on guilds with more than 20 terrs ig
scarlet kayak
the 20 territory thing is also on live atm iirc
potent ibex
so what will be changing
ember cloak
cowman terr xp ?!
scarlet kayak
the increase will be slower and more gradual, and wont last as long
lost tangle
why hotfix changes go live b4 its announced btw?
potent ibex
I can live with that
scarlet kayak
you might still end up hitting a wall when attacking small empires
but for regular sized guild the increase will be slower and youll actually see it gradually go up
instead of BAM 8k more expensive in one go
potent ibex
Will we still have situations where we take a single territory for free and then the next war is more than we can afford bc pity moment
?
scarlet kayak
ye its possible
earnest crypt
Also have you addressed the hq moving and resources resetting bug?
lost tangle
smth i never understood: why is oasis emerald production lower?
potent ibex
so small guild empire is the best way to do things now?
scarlet kayak
hq moving will be fixed next patch too
obsidian tree
salted gimme a forums sig
ember cloak
Mr Salted are u planning on buffing territory xp at any point
scarlet kayak
i wouldnt say the best thing but they are more protected than big empires
ye territory XP is buffed next patch too
warm knoll
salted gimme a forums sig
brownberry is cool gamer hours
ember cloak
Lets go dude
obsidian tree
ok pog
potent ibex
well the goal is to limit big empires after all, right?
scarlet kayak
it was never meant to stay low like that forever
i just wanted to see how bigi the average empire would get
earnest crypt
Might be hard to answer, but eta on patch release?
scarlet kayak
no idea
earnest crypt
Kk
potent ibex
so you wanted to see how big guilds can get and now that you have, you want to return to the guilds not being able to realistically hold huge land masses?
since your original idea had something to do with guilds having a harder time holding more than 15 terrs realistically
pulsar raft
please nerf no lifeing
scarlet kayak
ye but mostly i wanted to do it for the XP bonus
ember cloak
Please buff MaleDuck and nerf thatswhatido
potent ibex
which btw, would make map domination much harder and make it harder for mega alliances to try to secure the entire map given their numbers
scarlet kayak
i dont want 50 territories guild to power level to infinity
lost tangle
xp bonus on large claims wont be op
warm knoll
salted out here literally making eden’s entire career for shits and giggles
lost tangle
eden cant spend more than 100k ems on xp bonus
potent ibex
LMAO
scarlet kayak
the cost got reduced
lost tangle
or our defenses would be bad and we would get ganged
potent ibex
so basically, down with the big empires?
potent ibex
I mean, without big empires, it means alliances will have a harder time securing the whole map and map domination will be less in picture creating room for other parties and hence more legitimate action
lost tangle
also the cost for xp seekign was fine, the problem that 6k per terr is so low
warm knoll
alliances don’t deserve rights anyways so it works out ice
scarlet kayak
ye but in some ways right now big empire can exist especially because of alliances
warm knoll
i say while in an alliance guild
potent ibex
That is a given
scarlet kayak
also the cost for xp seekign was fine, the problem that 6k per terr is so low
its fine if you hold a fair amnt of terr
but i want even small guilds to be able to get some XP
potent ibex
It was already hard enough toppling mega alliances from the outside. Rarely has ever happened in all of guild history. Now defenders have protection 
scarlet kayak
but if the price was too cheap, then im uber buffing eden
potent ibex
lul
obsidian tree
whats a fair amount of terrs
scarlet kayak
so next patch will also add a total upgrade limit
pulsar raft
o ew
scarlet kayak
you wont be able to have more than 5 territories with the XP bonus but the xp bonus is WAY better and cheaper
potent ibex
Salted's vision is like 15 territories = big empire lmao
pulsar raft
that's actually bad
earnest crypt
Oh interesting
lost tangle
oh only on the xp thing
potent ibex
Goose, are u choosing Gavel or Wynn
ember cloak
Gamer time
potent ibex
fdhfghfg
lost tangle
ye but with prof on se does it rly matters?
ember cloak
thats what we're choosing
earnest crypt
Ice, we will never ditch sky
scarlet kayak
i expected people to fight for SE not all agree to leave the prof guild alone lol
ember cloak
lmao
warm knoll
i expected people to fight for SE not all agree to leave the prof guild alone lo...
i can mix that up for you
earnest crypt
Yeah I expected that too lol
potent ibex
SE is bad
obsidian tree
i can mix that up for you
uh oh
scarlet kayak
you guys are too nice
potent ibex
too easily cut off
lost tangle
se is too bad not worth fighting for
scarlet kayak
it used to do that iirc
lost tangle
oh ye why maltic cost produces 3600 of fish and 3600 of crops????
oak dagger
ye but with prof on se does it rly matters?
eh it makes it took easy imo, the point of post 110 gatherings is to be a stupid grind and guild boost deletes that
warm knoll
it did
earnest crypt
It did that in hb
potent ibex
chokepoints dont matter anymore because guild found out how to evade taxes
scarlet kayak
btw while a bunch of people are here
lost tangle
it matter
earnest crypt
We have a 7 terr chain of just chokes
lost tangle
cedeing half of ur terrs
scarlet kayak
what would you guys think of a season system for guilds
lost tangle
is a lot
potent ibex
ELABORATE
scarlet kayak
i put only like 2m of thoughts into this, but imagine this:
ember cloak
gamer time?!
earnest crypt
Resets?
oak dagger
summer time 😳
scarlet kayak
every 3 months all terr ownership gets reset, and people gain small % bonus based on how many territories they had and cosmetic stuff
lost tangle
YES
obsidian tree
no
pulsar raft
yes
ember cloak
yes
oak dagger
what sorta cosmetics ?
obsidian tree
idk
oak dagger
😳
earnest crypt
What type of bonus
ember cloak
thats gamer
scarlet kayak
no idea
lost tangle
that would be so cool
oak dagger
like
scarlet kayak
as i said i barely spent any time thinking about this
lost tangle
maybe a raw guild xp bonus at the end
oak dagger
ones exclusive to guilds ofc
obsidian tree
guild xp is yes
warm knoll
cosmetics
scarlet kayak
ye xp bonus could be nice
warm knoll
👀
earnest crypt
Hmm
scarlet kayak
could get some titles like "season 1 champion"
potent ibex
meh, so the thing about seasons is that guilds will just go reclaim exactly where they left off, but it could shake things up
^'
earnest crypt
That is def interesting
lost tangle
eden season 1 champion when 👀
scarlet kayak
ye thats my worry too ice
oak dagger
i think it'd be interesting
obsidian tree
make it slightly harder for prev winners
lost tangle
the problem is that it will force hge activity on last day like izz said
potent ibex
what if it is consistency based throughout the season?
pulsar raft
last day wont be announced my dudes
pulsar raft
why would they tell you when the last day was
scarlet kayak
well i think a last day rush could be exciting
pulsar raft
no
lost tangle
no
edgy gyro
no
obsidian tree
no
ember cloak
no
scarlet kayak
no
warm knoll
no
obsidian tree
xD
trim wedge
no
obsidian tree
no
potent ibex
tbh I kinda enjoy that the map is a never ending battle that has never been reset except for 1.20 moment
warm knoll
that sounds like eotw on hcf but wynn
pulsar raft
seasonal stuff would be way better
civic bane
almost like that is what happens when you simulate politics in a game
potent ibex
that is why you make stability harder to achieve Salted
civic bane
politics ARE meant to be stable
warm knoll
yeah you guys are bad at having preferences
pulsar raft
map isn't dynamic enough tbh
potent ibex
that is why you make empires smaller and hence cut down on how efficient mega alliances can be at map domination
warm knoll
map isn't dynamic enough tbh
^
scarlet kayak
i have some ideas to try to encourage more wars too
lost tangle
i would prefer seasons for more dynamic map
scarlet kayak
i might try that before trying seasons
pulsar raft
I mean more wars really isn't an issue
civic bane
trust me here
lost tangle
official warcount leaderboard pls
scarlet kayak
rework guild tomes into war based things
didnt do that cause its abusable
scarlet kayak
like 2 guilds ping-pong a territory constantly to get tomes
potent ibex
man guilds rlly do love their stability lmao
lost tangle
i can sell tomes if soemone pays me good money i guess
oak dagger
yeah like its abusable
civic bane
still of the opinion that the tome shouldve been a forgery chest thing but
potent ibex
the map SHOULD be competitive and less map domination based
civic bane
little too late 😔
warm knoll
chaos is fun to watch
oak dagger
people will always find ways to cheese whatever reqs you set
scarlet kayak
i dont want full on chaos 24/7
pulsar raft
more competition would be trash
scarlet kayak
just wish the empires edges were more active
pulsar raft
whats the point
ember cloak
tf
potent ibex
Salted, you could play with mechanics to make warring more regional, hence map efforts are harder and would require actual strength regionally rather than surviving by ally cede efforts
scarlet kayak
shifting slowly over time
pulsar raft
if you're just gonna get raided 24/7
oak dagger
also at least allow us to select the guild tome we want
i got a str/dex one even tho my build is wfa
lost tangle
i want competition between neighboors aswell but i prefer having claims
oak dagger
so its literally useless
civic bane
id be fine with tomes being harder to get however the opportunity to actually get them being more feasible
edgy gyro
Where can I buy the battle pass for each season
civic bane
rn its just extremely polarizing
pulsar raft
Guild tomes are basically useless
ember cloak
lmao
civic bane
sorta
pulsar raft
not worth the effort at all
ember cloak
wynnpass
oak dagger
Guild tomes are basically useless
nah they contribute to reqs
earnest crypt
Lol
half musk
man guilds rlly do love their stability lmao
spoiled by artemis
civic bane
you can get like 14 bonus sp out of tomes or something
go say it in class builds jake
potent ibex
This is the first time in guild history y'all want to make wars not a 24/7 ordeal. Quite frankly, wars were never 24/7 ever even with all the freedom before
civic bane
itll be a fun conversation
pulsar raft
4 skill points for 40 hours of work per week
pulsar raft
its not 0 work
ember cloak
no
civic bane
(ern btw)
ember cloak
no
pulsar raft
absolutely not
ember cloak
I said no
lost tangle
lol laufghts in 2k wars in the first week
trim wedge
ironman btw
ember cloak
so im correc
pulsar raft
no they dont
ember cloak
Goden
potent ibex
If you want more action, limiting wars isn't the best way to go about it
civic bane
yep
pulsar raft
limiting wars would be great imo
ember cloak
gamer time
potent ibex
thats basically begging for stability. Its already limited.
lost tangle
official ffa system pls
civic bane
we love the subs
pulsar raft
make wars less about endurance and more about planning and strats
pulsar raft
we love the subs
hope u got like 40 alts my dude
lost tangle
ffa were so fun
potent ibex
How about you suggest wars be limited when WE are the ones on the owning end :/
pulsar raft
have fun with the 3 day timer
lost tangle
even some highs
civic bane
valkyrie alone has access to like 50 guilds im pretty sure
pulsar raft
unless u have alts
potent ibex
Yes, because us coordinating a huge attack on a guild just to be squashed by pity cost is totally strategy
trim wedge
VHT 😍
scarlet kayak
getting very conflicting advices rn lol
lost tangle
u can coordinate on whole map
oak dagger
3 day timer isnt fun 😔
lost tangle
guild tomes are overrated imo
oak dagger
i wanan be in the ironman btw guild but its hard because then i cant help defend the guild im actually in
lost tangle
guild objectives would be fun
oak dagger
sadge
warm knoll
yo cool suggestion that everyone can agree on
civic bane
yea i think like a weekly guild objective with a chance to reward emeralds and tomes could be sweet
warm knoll
what if the current guild banner models
potent ibex
What if guilds can set a 12 hour period of when they can receive attacks? guilds can only attack them during this period and they can only war during this period?
jk jk
warm knoll
just didn’t exist
civic bane
yoo leave t8 its funny
potent ibex
dude the banners are hideous past T6
trim wedge
t8 bad
civic bane
its like a punishment
potent ibex
please fix
lost tangle
give banners perks (totally unbiased)
scarlet kayak
guild objective: backstab your ally and steal 3 of their territories
pulsar raft
why would you do that
civic bane
actually you could kinda do a trial run for that season shit with weekly objectives
potent ibex
Salted, they would just coordinate that and ask to take 3 territories
warm knoll
🏃♂️
civic bane
its a way shorter time period
pulsar raft
just take 3 territories and cede back
oak dagger
guild objective: nerf gathering xp boost
pulsar raft
wtf
scarlet kayak
😔
lost tangle
exactly what ice said
earnest crypt
guild objective: obtain 400 territories at once
lost tangle
we would just ask bc its out objective and get them
scarlet kayak
guild objective: grow your empire by 5 territories for a week without losing them
civic bane
literally impossible
vocal granite
Thats impossible
pulsar raft
ima just not do that
oak dagger
if you held a territory 1 season you cant hold it the next season :doom:
potent ibex
If you make larger empires less efficient and make warring more regional, it will in the long run harm the map domination mindset seeing that wars are more regional and require strength in all those areas. Also, guilds being smaller means that they cannot hold a ton of territories as to easily dominate the map.
big brain
pulsar raft
objective failed! 🤷♂️
civic bane
the guild community is not particularly good at preventing spies
on either side really
lost tangle
smaller guilds dont work
since u end up getting like 1 res only empire
smaller claims*
you need like at least 20ish terrs ion average to have a decent eco
potent ibex
Salted already said empires would be smaller potentially but it would be easier to upgrade things or something about xp, but it would be capped or something i might be wrong
pulsar raft
the map will never support smaller guilds
scarlet kayak
ok fine guild objective: destroy another guild's empire so hard they disband they angrily disband their guild and quit the game
pulsar raft
unless u join an alliance or nerf big guilds
lost tangle
not smaller guilds i meant smaller claims
half musk
the biggest limiter on econs i feel like is emeralds
civic bane
it DOES support it it just has to all be done through a lot of tributes
potent ibex
dam Salted
earnest crypt
wow
edgy gyro
I like this plan
civic bane
i dont think tributes have been labbed out enough yet
vocal granite
Also impossible salted
Some of us are just too spiteful to leave
lost tangle
trade doesnt work
pulsar raft
smaller claims wont work because theyd be undefendable
civic bane
pretty sure an alliance could go insane with tributes
potent ibex
smaller claims wont work because theyd be undefendable
Not true. Salted layed out that pity would be more geared towards guilds with smaller claims and even put up a temporary wall at times.
lost tangle
if like the tribute routes were protected then ye it would have so much trade
but its too unrelyable to be worth it
pulsar raft
Not true. Salted layed out that pity would be more geared towards guilds with sm...
a big guild could just squash the tiny guild wtf
civic bane
waiting for them to add passive npc orcs that can raid your hq
wish for the orcs to vore edn
lost tangle
the orcs would die 😎
civic bane
the orcs have orc camps
pulsar raft
Bro I have like 500k emeralds
civic bane
you cannot claim the camps 😎
lost tangle
the pity isnt enough to offset a huge warpower difference
pulsar raft
no
lost tangle
and never should
pulsar raft
warring should be limited a little
pulsar raft
because you people should not be doing this 24/7
lost tangle
its all mine now
potent ibex
its easy for you to say it should be limited when you own hella territories lmao
like thats the truth of it
half musk
pity cost didnt save ibt
lost tangle
limiting isnt good
vocal granite
Limiting is bad, if people want to war, they should be able to war
potent ibex
^
pulsar raft
because theyre normal and want to sleep
warm knoll
right if hypixel has taught me anything
it’s that if you make a cosmetic that looks cool enough
people will literally fail school to get it no matter the cost
so we give really cool cosmetic stuff that you can flex and you can only get it by doing guild objectives geared to cause disarray in the community
kindred osprey
just wandering, is ico in goose?
pulsar raft
absolutely not
potent ibex
this is people's main content in Wynncraft. Do you really want to limit it?
earnest crypt
just wandering, is ico in goose?
no
potent ibex
This is Wynncraft's end-game content
earnest crypt
they just have lr
potent ibex
limiting it is bad
pulsar raft
you're rewarding people who never sleep and do this 24/7
warm knoll
forbidden prison speedruns
pulsar raft
nobody wants to do that
civic bane
you do realize
pulsar raft
except this community
earnest crypt
well, anything rewards 24/7 ig
civic bane
in basically ANY game you get an advantage if you play 24/7
pulsar raft
if you want regular people on the map
civic bane
lol
lost tangle
i mean im on vacation and i like the game
pulsar raft
izz u sleep like 4 hours a day bro
lost tangle
ye activity should be rewarded
pulsar raft
so does calluum
civic bane
no point in limiting
earnest crypt
I think that if you get wiped you shouldnt be able to war for an hour or smth
pulsar raft
not at 3 am lol
pulsar raft
I think that if you get wiped you shouldnt be able to war for an hour or smth
if you get wiped 5 times you get an hour timer to war again
civic bane
5 terrs to qualify and once youre above 5 that applies but someone can just dogpile on you
potent ibex
We never have ever needed to tryhard to own territories. When Goose was trying to wipe Hestia and target us 3, ANO was only wiped for a combined 28 minutes during all that time period, much of it on Christmas.
It is called having a balanced war team of multiple timezones to cover against attacks.
earnest crypt
bc if you attack and fail, you can just try again
potent ibex
Tryhards typically solo a lot of the time too
pulsar raft
you fail
and fail
and fail
buy soul point bombs
and fail again
then u eventually win
potent ibex
good, it supports Wynncraft then
civic bane
yoo monetization
civic bane
theyre making enough from dxp bombs for guilds
potent ibex
it supports wynn
civic bane
lmao
potent ibex
factz
civic bane
true!
potent ibex
/hub
warm knoll
ill make a script in all guild arenas that checks if you’re doing a war and if you leave you get banned
pulsar raft
theres a point where your war effort is so futile
earnest crypt
oh hi panda
pulsar raft
give the defender a break
potent ibex
Oculism whyyyy
warm knoll
and i know how to ban players with our scripting system
do not test me
potent ibex
most war efforts become futile because of the current state of pity.
vocal granite
Giving the defender a break isn't smart
atomic glacier
how
potent ibex
to further limit the attacker is 
pulsar raft
most war efforts become futile because of the current state of pity.
cool nerf pity then
lost tangle
also i heard soemone was saying eden spent 17stxs on wars
potent ibex
Salted already said they will be toning it down lmao
lost tangle
that is a lie lmao
atomic glacier
i don’t think anyone really believes it’s fair
lost tangle
just making sure fake news dont spread
atomic glacier
ok can you stop crying until it comes out then
potent ibex
well I've been fighting people justifying it all day
potent ibex
but it does not matter anymore
atomic glacier
salted already is going to change it
potent ibex
Salted just addressed it further
lost tangle
it matters tho
potent ibex
he did back then, but we weren't assured change was going to happen
lost tangle
convincing ppl its a good change is good
atomic glacier
you can’t really convince anyone on the internet
pulsar raft
imo
potent ibex
k guys UVs raid tmr?
lost tangle
huh why jake?
vocal granite
Ok let's hit it ice
potent ibex
it was a joke ahhh
vocal granite
Welcome to wars jake
ornate forge
goodbye rays
pulsar raft
bad joke imo
atomic glacier
i don’t think wars have ever been attacker favored honestly
potent ibex
not anymore
pulsar raft
1.19 wars were always equal footing
atomic glacier
i mean
potent ibex
1.19, defenders had zero protection
atomic glacier
eh
atomic glacier
you had allies
civic bane
what the ufck
atomic glacier
and subs
civic bane
1.19 was not equal footing
lost tangle
attackers have the advantage of chosing the time of attack
civic bane
lol
warm knoll
if you attack ultraviolet ill make the guild banners even uglier
potent ibex
Defenders SHOULD have protection
lost tangle
you could do a huge impact with so little
civic bane
1.19 literally was SO busted for attackers
there was absolutely nothing for attackers to lose ever
lost tangle
in the short term ofc
atomic glacier
there’s not really anything for attackers to lose in general
lost tangle
not allowed to play the game
warm knoll
ill add a lil title card above every guild banner that says “ano bad lol”
pulsar raft
there was absolutely nothing for attackers to lose ever
now ur thinking
civic bane
what
warm knoll
however
lost tangle
add eden good
civic bane
are you?
potent ibex
Defenders should have protection, but the ONLY way to protect the defender is to limit the attacker. . which isn't fair and should not be pushed to extremes
vocal granite
Your making me want to attack them more
earnest crypt
@keen scarab I have to ask, why does ern have ally of the avos
potent ibex
your basically asking to not get attacked like ever
you just want to vibe with land but not actually compete for it
atomic glacier
assigned territory moment
potent ibex
yes we do
pulsar raft
theres 0 planning
potent ibex
what is there better to do, we experimenting the system and testing mechanics
pulsar raft
u just do it
pulsar raft
thats really sad
atomic glacier
i have
pulsar raft
if thats the case
lost tangle
attackers have a natural advantage that should be offset, the pity timer looks like a good way to offset it.
potent ibex
A lot of us are really casually warring. We don't have to be as invested considering that we don't own land like Goose does
but you cannot say we don't plan at all
Any warring these days basically requires some sort of plan
pulsar raft
the planning....
lost tangle
idk it looks like 0 planning since no big scale raid happened yet
pulsar raft
needs some work....
atomic glacier
it really looks like sloppy planning
potent ibex
if your idea of plan is to coardinate with other guilds, its not even really feasible anymore
pulsar raft
??????
lost tangle
ice pls i already told you many times
potent ibex
coordinated attacks is like BEGGING for pity to be applied
half musk
just dont focus a single guild
atomic glacier
maybe you should ask ern
because somehow they did more solo than ano lxa and friends did together
lost tangle
izz what is ur warcount rn?
atomic glacier
ern is pretty effective solo they just need some competent allies
lost tangle
sad
lost tangle
im stuck at 800 rn
atomic glacier
crazy
pulsar raft
...
oak dagger
hotfix #42069 😳
atomic glacier
doesn’t seem like youre just chilling
pulsar raft
waiting for territories to be the way I like it
lost tangle
bro you have no idea on how dissapointed i was when i discovered the galatic empire thing was a meme
potent ibex
nah, I get to make suggestions for a system I know nothing about, right?
civic bane
WE are chilling
pulsar raft
guess we're one and the same huh
civic bane
winnin rn
lost tangle
it was so much better when i though it was serious
potent ibex
Im not asking for guilds to not be able to war whenever they want lmao
quite the contrary
atomic glacier
i don’t think anyone is asking for something as extreme as that
vocal granite
If I wanna war at 2 am
I should be able to war at 2 am
pulsar raft
you're saying that because you don't hold territory
potent ibex
Pity is a problem, otherwise it would not be getting nerfed. Anyways, whats done is done and is just a matter of waiting at this point
potent ibex
you're saying that because you don't hold territory
Im saying this because this has been the reality of my entire guild experience
atomic glacier
why do you keep going back to pity
lost tangle
never being nerfed means its bad
atomic glacier
like no one in the past 15 minutes has even said that
potent ibex
I am not saying guilds should have freedom to war because I don't own land right now - that has been the reality for me for over 3 years. Only now is there some limitation placed on attackers, and you want more
civic bane
quick question not to distract the topic but does anyone know if guardian stacks
potent ibex
You have only owned land in 1.20
atomic glacier
avo moment
pulsar raft
I love being on patrol 24/7
atomic glacier
idk if i’ve ever seen avo own land pre 1.20
pulsar raft
its great
atomic glacier
ur right about that
potent ibex
thats why you recruit multiple timezones
pulsar raft
with what slots
vocal granite
Goden id assume it doesn't
potent ibex
and you really don't need to war 24/7
atomic glacier
also ice ive never seen ano hold terrs for a significant time in 1.20
so your point is?
people have different experiences
potent ibex
that was when wars costed personal emeralds
and I was like yeah no
because it started to cost us
we were able to war for free then bc
atomic glacier
wow must be a unique experience to ano then
potent ibex
ERN gave us 10k emeralds to start with
atomic glacier
maybe other guilds weren’t around during that time
potent ibex
All of Goose was
minus the period of time ERN, ILQ and LXA ate half of Gavel
Even ERN has not owned territory for a significant period of time longer than two days in any recent time
And they are putting more effort than most
owning territories does not instantly = more effort
not under a mega alliance dynamic
pulsar raft
oh lord
atomic glacier
artemis moment
pulsar raft
he did not
atomic glacier
ur literally
copper parcel
what
pulsar raft
0 effort owning territories
atomic glacier
just upset that you’re not in power
potent ibex
Its true lmao, mega alliances have always had weak links
copper parcel
the density is astounding
atomic glacier
the lack
of self awareness
is astounding
look
i get it
being on the losing side is hard
potent ibex
0 effort owning territories
theortically, you can now keep a guild on the map against its will. Just cede territories whenever they get attacked.
atomic glacier
sorry ano isn’t in a strong alliance this time aroind
guess you’ll have to wait your turn
lost tangle
so maybe i just didnt see it
pulsar raft
????????????????????????????????
thats
what
wtf r u talking about
why would I cede u territories
ever
potent ibex
I didn't say that
lost tangle
he means u can have weak allies
pulsar raft
to feed a guild
lost tangle
i think
potent ibex
you cede territories to allies all the time
lost tangle
and carry them
copper parcel
Lmao ERN does it all the time to their allies, but they always choke
pulsar raft
I mean is that a bad thing
lost tangle
eh, was always the case
atomic glacier
ern just doesn’t have competent allies