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split scarab
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so Daddy WeaponMerchant all the fukin way

ember cloak
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gaming

shut perch
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!!

chrome hull
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daddy rohan is pog

limber river
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i think he meant artemis

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not ambassador art

split scarab
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lmao

half temple
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WeaponMerchant basically helped cxz get into goose btw just saying

limber river
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dxi is kinda pog

shut perch
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dxi is huge pog

ember cloak
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gaming

split scarab
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Potato

shut perch
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sheepn never gave me disc tho PensivEgg

ember cloak
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no

limber river
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i been thinking about putting diggins43 into dxi just to solo goose hqs but thag would get me in trouble

split scarab
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lmao

ember cloak
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gamer

split scarab
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cxz HQ moment

half temple
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Cum?

split scarab
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i think morph gales could solo that

shut perch
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woah

ember cloak
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gaming

limber river
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cxzxzxxc

split scarab
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yknow

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statistically

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it can

ember cloak
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no

split scarab
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cuz agi means 0 dmg chance

half temple
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Imagine saying morph can solo something that was lvl 8 hp

hollow willow
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🥱

shut perch
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agi in wars yes

split scarab
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morph freedom lmao

hollow willow
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hmm yes ahah

limber river
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agi works in wars

shut perch
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agi war

chrome hull
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morph fantasia moment

shut perch
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war agi

ember cloak
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gaming

split scarab
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wfa builds in wars 😻

hollow willow
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be me

limber river
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nah

hollow willow
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uses 400 agi

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solo edn hq

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problem?

limber river
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efat hero

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is

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incredible in wars

hollow willow
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fuck quads

split scarab
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agi caps at 150 tho

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i need a rage hero build

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wanna set me up sheepn

hollow willow
shut perch
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I have like 15 differnt rage hero variations

limber river
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not even a real archetype

shut perch
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yes it is sheep

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its a way

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of life

ember cloak
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Hey if anyone is a gamer

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lmk

hollow willow
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I fucking hate quads

split scarab
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lmao

flint shuttle
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FUCK

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i didnt mean to ping someone

limber river
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i love warring with my 100% health guardian

tribal marten
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ironman btw guild. join it. thanks.

split scarab
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strivver is S A L T Y

hollow willow
limber river
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it’s actually hilarious

split scarab
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@bitter bobcat why

ember cloak
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fucking christ

ornate forge
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amazing

hollow willow
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@bitter bobcat when

half temple
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Yo vova

bitter bobcat
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if someone thinks they can outcurse me

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you cant.

ornate forge
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@bitter bobcat where

ember cloak
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i dont

shut perch
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vova is speedrunning ban

half temple
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You free next tuesday?

split scarab
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who gave you access to the internet?

hollow willow
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I can

shut perch
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thinks he can get away with murder now fish is gone

bitter bobcat
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bro fish got demoted i dont care who bans me now

limber river
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i opened taq discord to post a fish shutpost in guild generals but saw that and knew it was way better

ornate forge
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lmao

split scarab
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lmao

hollow willow
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fish you mean the mod that let people in this channel sell their nudes for memes?

split scarab
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@limber river gib rage hero b u i l d

bitter bobcat
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yeah just about

empty smelt
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I'm back

split scarab
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ive seen that

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lmao

limber river
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curse hero >>>>>

half temple
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Hi back

empty smelt
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Just had a Allen's chicken

ember cloak
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gaming

hollow willow
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Vova thats fucking murder

half temple
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Im potat

empty smelt
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Absolute amazing

limber river
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whatever tf that is

half temple
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How was your mcdonalds?

ember cloak
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good

bitter bobcat
split scarab
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vova just posted someone getting nooned

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christ

limber river
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goose.

hollow willow
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vova you know how I can outcurse you?

bitter bobcat
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how

shut perch
ember cloak
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doing yo mom 😎

hollow willow
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posting the same stuff you post but with a everyone tag in Goose

quaint gazelle
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guilds are for bottoms

ember cloak
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fuck

limber river
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cringe

split scarab
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calluum lmao

limber river
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cringe hero build

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vova she bad

quaint gazelle
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Haha

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I use cringe hero

bitter bobcat
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what the fuck do you mean she b ad

ornate forge
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bet she has a fatty

split scarab
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is it wrong i dont understand

limber river
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yes

bitter bobcat
quaint gazelle
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kinky

limber river
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vova is a trap

split scarab
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likely so

split scarab
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@empty smelt You got goods? to sell ofc 🤤

limber river
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rohan

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i need ig is

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ignis

quaint gazelle
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Rohan is a cutie

bitter bobcat
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he got on the ground

split scarab
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he needs ig is

half temple
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Buying friends for 10 Emeralds

limber river
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selling tnl for an ignis

empty smelt
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@split scarab

half temple
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Oops, wrong chat

empty smelt
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Uhhhhhhhh

split scarab
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@empty smelt

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we can do this all night bb

empty smelt
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Oops

split scarab
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😍

quaint gazelle
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buying guild for 1 zhight coin

split scarab
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i need a 1/7th and a 1/9th

empty smelt
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Damn

split scarab
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lmao

split scarab
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what is it

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you wont

quaint gazelle
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@limber river thanks, could you tell me it?

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I forgot it

split scarab
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@limber river tell us our IPs

limber river
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i feel like i’ll get in trouble

split scarab
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dox everyone

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right now

quaint gazelle
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dox me

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i need friends

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😭

limber river
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it took me so long to get unbanned from this discord man

split scarab
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dox the wynncraft guild community

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lets make map ownership settled by fight club

quaint gazelle
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^^

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Who ever can beat Salted in a fist fight gets map ownership

split scarab
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nah

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all the inbreds from every guild

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just run at each other

quaint gazelle
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You're not a different breed

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You just different

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You're weird.

split scarab
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?

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ik

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thats the point

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whats the point of being regular

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lmao

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bland ass

quaint gazelle
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Wynncraft but its actually good

limber river
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well known that avberage guild player is special

quaint gazelle
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'special'

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Last time I did guild wars i died

limber river
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bruh

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imagine dying

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sponsored by farcors trust

hollow willow
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noob sheep needs comsobmable to not die

limber river
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you literally use archangel

hollow willow
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ok but hear me out

quaint gazelle
limber river
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what guid

hollow willow
quaint gazelle
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🅱️ris

hollow willow
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the only acceptable quad

quaint gazelle
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Alright so hot take

hollow willow
quaint gazelle
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When 1.20 wars costed 2le per war

limber river
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controversial

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oh this will be good

hollow willow
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ok nvm boooooring

quaint gazelle
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I went and and used like 2 stacks for wars

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In a day, just because my guild wanted to war and we had no territories

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NOT EVEN 10 MINUTES AFTER I LOG OFF THE PATCH COMES THROUGH

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and Salted is like aight guild wars dont cost money

hollow willow
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nooob

quaint gazelle
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i want to sue the cow himself

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for losing nothing except some in game money

tribal marten
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be thankful because now you have no use for money like

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good thing you spent 2 stacks of le while you still could

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ok i mean

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you could've used the money on other things tbh

quaint gazelle
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lol

hollow willow
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like buying me the cheapest ArchangeL on TM

quaint gazelle
quaint gazelle
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remember when warring was actually good and fun?

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Neither do I

tribal marten
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i mean. i am having a lot of fun with it in 1.20

sage granite
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i like sniping

shut perch
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I dont

sage granite
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ano raid

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ano raid

shut perch
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uwu

sage granite
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no

shut perch
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I want chryssie to raid ano

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Ill take something for kyn to take

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no I wont Im lazy

sage granite
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me too

half temple
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Yo its the "utlimate" ppfart hater

lost tangle
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1.20 warring is fun

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I just miss ffa

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Official ffa system when

shut perch
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I think both are fairly unenjoyable

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not warring has meant I can do other shit on other games more

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ignore shitass wynn

ornate forge
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I like the new warring

tribal marten
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hello someone please give me a small loan of a million emeralds 😔

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about to run out. guild is in famine. nothing but tragedy awaits

lost tangle
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Is this some sort of peasant joke i am too rich to understand?

ember cloak
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@pulsar raft

chrome hull
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yeah i also like the new warring system

ember cloak
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@pulsar raft

shut perch
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doesnt even need the "to maleduck"

ember cloak
tender slate
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CONGRATS BRO

tribal marten
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incredible

pulsar raft
ember cloak
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@pulsar raft

tender slate
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CONGRATS BRO

pulsar raft
ember cloak
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ez

sage granite
tender slate
ember cloak
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LOL

tender slate
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CONGRATS!!!! 🎉

quaint gazelle
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lol

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imagine not owning gardian

pulsar raft
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ima about to brawl everyone here

quaint gazelle
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do it

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I'm down to fight

tender slate
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do it

quaint gazelle
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nether pvp

tender slate
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i mean fight

quaint gazelle
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😳

tender slate
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FlOrShed

quaint gazelle
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Same

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what if we did it in decripited sewers 🥺

ember cloak
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@pulsar raft

tender slate
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CONGRATS

fiery gust
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idk if ive ever seen jake respond to you

ember cloak
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lmao

abstract moat
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what

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who in their right mind also names themselves jake

hollow willow
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Thatswhathedo

exotic plover
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lou go sleep

hollow willow
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Wtf yuu

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Its not even midnight

shut perch
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Yea go sleep

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Need

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Fuck

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Nerd

hollow willow
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Shut ur ears cal

subtle creek
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I re-read the conversation about pvp after my comment. It seems the community is largely against it.

This doesnt really make sense to me. Just put hardcaps on stats for a certain area (say an "Arena") where entrance is completely voluntary. That way you have pvp for those that want it and its somewhat balanced (i.e. stats are capped so one shotting could be solved), and then those that do not want it dont have too.

This is literally mmo basics. Why alienate an entire portion of the playerbase @shut perch

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but yea; people eventually get bored of exploring and pve, as it is hard to generate new content regularly and quickly enough. Pvp gives people an activity that provides a higher degree of skill expression and re-playability that would give some more hours of gaming value to those that are waiting for a content update, if they so choose to participate (again make it completely voluntary and not forced like other PvE-first-focused mmos.

hollow willow
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The return of cactus builds!

subtle creek
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you could even have 'tiers' of arenas, where the items you farmed for mean something in a higher tier, but not in a lower one. Why is the community thinking so one-dimensionally on this?

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@half temple @chrome hull @ornate forge @flint shuttle

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I'm loving the server so far and by no means just want to rush in and demand changes, but this seems like a simple positive that adds more depth to the server. I dont really so the cons of implementing a system as I have described above. Just wanting to help the server grow and be better.

wide shadow
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wynncaft pfp is extremely hard to balance

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and even if they did manage to balance it well like on wynncon it still would get just as old

shrewd cove
subtle creek
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hardcaps in certain pvp-sanctioned areas

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no need to worry about balancing items; just balance the time-to-kill for each class via stat hardcaps for each class in said pvp area

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hard-to-balance is a poor excuse for no pvp imo

wide shadow
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shaman and archer will always be better than the other classes, even if you nerf their damage to shit

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mage will always be bad for pvp because of meteor's delay

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its justhard to design a system where it doesnt devolve into a 1 build meta

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and thats no fun

subtle creek
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perhaps; but maybe there are some warriors that would full-spec damage? or mages that would adjust and use meteor's as a zone control and not necessarilly to land

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make the arena objective based

wide shadow
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thats an idea

subtle creek
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so that holding points, etc, makes a diversity of roles

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being required to win

wide shadow
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i c

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like ctf?

subtle creek
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ctf?

wide shadow
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capture the flag

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sort of

subtle creek
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oh yea

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exactly

wide shadow
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yea i think they did so ething like that on wynncon

subtle creek
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stuff like that; we dont need to re-invent the wheel here

wide shadow
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ig

subtle creek
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the main reason for doing this is for server longevity. More forms of content means more diverse playerbase and more active players on a regular basis. I am in no way suggesting they turn the server into a hardcore loot-gank pker game such as Albion Online, etc

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so i.e., no drawbacks

wide shadow
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i mean ofc, nobody is against adding replayability

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i just feel like adding pvp will just devolve into a 1-build meta and have the same replayability value as lootrunning

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where its just the same thing over and over again

subtle creek
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per that suggestion, you would have a meta develop and then people would train at it

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the same way that many games have a 1-strategy meta that everyone builds too. as long as the meta is fun, why does it matter how many build paths there are?

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if there is skill expression and practice to become better, than I see it being very fun

vocal granite
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If pvp gets added, you either play poison or lose
Because of the mechanics of poison atm you just hit someone once and they die

subtle creek
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again, can simply hardcap certain things. i.e. hardcap any damange-over-time affect to 2% of max health. or to make it easier, just remove poison from pvp if its that complex

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these are all semantics of balance that can be adjusted - non of these are sure-fire reason to not have pvp

vocal granite
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The issue is the wynn team has always had issues with balance
Just recently there was a push forced through through that broke builds so hard that you could destroy the raid bosses as if they were nothing

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Poison has always been an issue due to how it works, ignoring defense and going straight to health as a form of true damage

subtle creek
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precisely the reason I suggested a hardcap to damage, which could be divied up by source

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easy to implement, and easy to change. Just start somewhere as a baseline

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would be different if i suggested softcaps

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that would be a balance nightmare

vocal granite
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Hard caps might be their own issue, because of how some builds may operate, like a heavy melee build for instance,
Say the hard cap is 7k damage in a single melee hit
Heavy melee can hit almost double that with a basic melee hit
And say health is capped to idk
17k
Why would you ever try to build tankier or more damaging than that hard cap if it doesn't do anything and ends as a waste of a piece

subtle creek
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they could hardcap defenses too; that's the beauty of individual stats, each can be hardcapped to adjust the time-to-kill to be at a reason level

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we dont need to re-invent the wheel, like I mentioned earlier. this has been done in a plethera of other mmos to great success. Im not saying that those mmos are better than this, im just saying that inspiration/ideas can be taken from them

vocal granite
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Technically the SPs are already hard capped at 150

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The issue isn't having to reinvent the wheel
It would be the entire combat system and item system would need to be overhauled to deal with it

subtle creek
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I really disagree; the combat is fine; just the values is the issue. What about the combat system wouldnt be fun for pvp?

shrewd cove
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you add hard caps... you produce a system that encourages tit for tat damage. I've seen hard caps in place in other games, and it's just resorted to predictable behaviour, boringly predictable behaviour

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soft caps that we have now at least create an illusion of stat worthwhileness

vocal granite
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Stun locking with assassin
Spam heal with mage
Warrior would literally take the shaft due to not having any way to lock an area down
Shamans can just sit in a totem locking down an area, healing and doing damage in that zone
Archers can be nigh impossible to hit

subtle creek
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I think the hardcaps would be the easiest solution, not that they are particularly better. some pvp, if slightly unbalanced, is better than no pvp.

I jsut think that all of those interactions would be fun - it would come down to resource management since inspiration would be hardcapped

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then it would be about resource/cooldown trading like many fighting games

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you can only spam if you have an end-game build with virtually unlimited mana. hardcaps could easily solve that

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if you had limited mana, would have to play smart

vocal granite
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8 mana regen
Thats all it takes about

shrewd cove
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better pvp mechanics would be nice... but i'd prefer the ct to work on adding new content rather than fixing a system that almost no one uses now

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gathering xp sort of nullifies the risk of hunted

vocal granite
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To borderline spam infinitely if you have a brain

shrewd cove
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and who would go pvp with a gathering set

vocal granite
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Theres also the problem of hard caps just straight up killing certain archetypes

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Which, fuck people who play those archetypes right?

shrewd cove
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i've only known one person who i will not disclose

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personally online that is

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who plays wynn solely to hunt

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like it was in their application: i play wynn to get a toxo build and hunt lol

subtle creek
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again; pvp could be in those specific areas and restricted so that it couldnt be used as a griefing tool.

Also, since when does a few difficult things to balance around negate bringing an entire portion of mmo playerbase to a game? Why the negativity and the 'no'? What about the positive thinking and out-of-the-box ideas that can help make the server better?

Just keep hearing excuses of no no no, mainly just because some people wouldnt partake in said content. if you wouldnt even participate, why does it matter since it would only be restricted to said areas?

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if 8 mana regen is too much, then cap mana regen to 1

vocal granite
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Then spell builds die

subtle creek
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make it that they effectively have a cooldown

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the mana regen

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is the cooldown

vocal granite
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Thats the issue here, wynn isn't designed to handle pvp well

subtle creek
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im not suggesting it needs to be better than the base game

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but not having it? Cmon that's simply a cop-out

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and proven hand over fist by the fact that they used to have it

vocal granite
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We did have it and technically do have it now
It doesn't get used

shrewd cove
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wynn is designed to kill 100k+ hp bosses

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players are limited to normally under 20k

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see the problem

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high levels of damage output cannot be matched by low levels of damage intake

vocal granite
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I am on the extreme high end of health
At 25k

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With an 80% damage reduction

subtle creek
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health gets limited to 15k - damage over time limited to 1k a second, burst damage limited to 4k for any given spell. Mana regen capped at 3 and go

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literally with a half days of tweaking and testing, a good time to kill could be foun

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found*

shrewd cove
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eh

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make any changes so abruptly and the playerbase will shit on you

vocal granite
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Especially ones that drastic

subtle creek
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@shrewd cove again this would only be in a pvp 'arena'

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not everywhere

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why does everyone

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ignore that

shrewd cove
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if it's part of not the main game it'll die like wizards did

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heck, you're suggesting basically what wizards was

vocal granite
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Pretty much

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Like I enjoyed wizards, but it just died

subtle creek
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make it an entire zone -incentivize team play and rewards

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like the wilderness of runescape

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can even add pve events tailored to those caps

ripe grail
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what is wizards

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also there was pvp

subtle creek
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again this really is not difficult

tribal marten
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old wynn minigamer

ripe grail
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in nether portal

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but it died

shrewd cove
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you'd chose between wynncraft or wizards in the wynncraft lobby

ripe grail
shrewd cove
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not the nether portal

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iirc

ripe grail
tribal marten
ripe grail
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ic

tribal marten
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like. pre gavel

ripe grail
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ah

tribal marten
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by quite a bit

ripe grail
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ye i wasnt around back then

tribal marten
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i think

hollow willow
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When was nether removed again?

ripe grail
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sadge

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ah

hollow willow
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Also

ripe grail
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idk prob around 2017ish?

hollow willow
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The true pvp content everyone is sleeping on...

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PIG PUCK

vocal granite
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Its more difficult than you think altamo because the coding to make it a specific area would also be hell if hard caps were added, because of having to adjust health or not based on if the person has more health or not

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A simple change to make strength and dex affect the final damage vs just the base that was made recently
Broke everything in regards to class building and they had to revert it so they can change around 4 thousand items

hollow willow
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Tbh ive been craving for a way to have a sandbox of builds like Nova's wynn for a gud time

subtle creek
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could just limit health the class type, and regardless of builds. The coding could be complex, but it isnt more complex than the systems they already have

ripe grail
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no bad if u want pvp just say revive nether

subtle creek
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infact; there ya go - just balance the class type with hardcaps, forget the specific armor. Pvp can be completely armor and weapon independant

ripe grail
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making an arena is bad

hollow willow
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Its cool to class build, its not when u cant test builds

ripe grail
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i dont like it

subtle creek
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just because you dont like a game mode, that means that people that do like it shouldnt be able to participate in option content?

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how is that an actual argument?

ripe grail
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no i like the game mode

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i dont like the arena

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bring back Nether if u want pvp

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that simple

hollow willow
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Tru

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Even tho nether would still be who's toxo can hit first

ripe grail
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yes

vocal granite
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Wasn't nether literally just a free for all arena?

ripe grail
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yes

hollow willow
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Who got the most cactus build lel

ripe grail
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u could afk with a grim tank build

subtle creek
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im providing a solution to balancing pvp, not a solution for having pvp whatsoever

ripe grail
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and take 100 kills

subtle creek
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my solution already runs on the premise that having pvp at all is a thing

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and arena is an example

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make it a zone called 'wilderness' or something if that suits the server more

ripe grail
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@subtle creek do u know what wynncon is?

ripe grail
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too much work for something that will die soon

subtle creek
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the nether, as I take it, was stopped because there was no balance. Again please refer to: "m providing a solution to balancing pvp, not a solution for having pvp whatsoever"

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and it would die if there is no reason to do it - simply incentivize it

ripe grail
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wynncon has

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a balance

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in classes

subtle creek
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and it wouldnt actually be that much work compared to systems they already have that are already incredibly complex

ripe grail
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for pvp

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ok so u see I would rather them spending their time on creating smth actually good like guild minigames-fixing guilds-adding new locations-lore-quests

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rather having a place were I can go brrrrr brrrrr

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also I told u slapping wynncon on wynncraft fixes the class problem so pvp can exist in nether

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and its balanced

subtle creek
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fine; make it 17th on the tier list of important things but alienating an entire group of players is a poor business decision no matter which way you dice it

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and if that fixes it than so be it

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something is better than nothing

vocal granite
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I don't think it would be alienating anyone

ripe grail
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otherwise nether would not have been closed

vocal granite
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Like
Maybe 15 people?

ripe grail
#

@gilded moon

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dam he is off

subtle creek
#

i didnt mean the current players

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i meant the ones that dont play at all yet

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that would like too, but get turned away because there is none available

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so to counter: yes maybe the current grouping is small, but the possible players to be gained is substantial

ripe grail
#

ok and may I ask smth if u were a game developer

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and ur game had already a decent ammount of players that are asking for certain things

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would u fix those things or make smth new in hopes

subtle creek
#

im not suggesting they immediately do it or immediately drop what theyre doing

ripe grail
#

new ppl who join the server will like it

subtle creek
#

where did i suggest that

#

tell me where

ripe grail
#

well then yes

shrewd cove
#

like honestly i'd rather the game develop new content than make the ct spend time on pvp

subtle creek
#

i am simply providing a solution to a system that obviously exists because there is some reason for it; it is up to the devs to determine what is the best market decision to make and at what time

ripe grail
#

when fruma is done in around 3 years pvp would be cool

shrewd cove
#

we get map changes like once a year

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i wouldn't want it to expand longer

ripe grail
#

@subtle creek also

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since u look personally offended

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we r not rly attacking u

#

just saying ur suggestion is not that needed rn

vocal granite
#

Making content just to appease new players doesn't work, it just annoys the old players who actually have spent lots of time before
Look at 1.20 guilds

ripe grail
#

I totally love 1.20 guilds

vocal granite
#

I hate em
Lots of pain, little reward

ripe grail
#

and totally did NOT quit the game 1 week after 1.20

subtle creek
#

im not taking it personally as much as I am just baffled* by the amount of upsidedown logic to argue against something that provides optional, additional content, can bring in new players/give existing max players something to do, and overall only benefits the server rather than subtracts in any way shape or form

ripe grail
#

@shrewd cove sadge

shrewd cove
#

gonna be real that's a if 1 true 2 true if 1 false 2 false type of response so we can only draw conclusions from assumptions

ripe grail
#

but there is other content needed rn rather pvp balance

vocal granite
#

We get content so infrequently that they need to make it cater to as many people as they can, your ideas wouldn't work for that

ripe grail
#

Hunted mode exists if u want to duel or smth with untradable

shrewd cove
#

so the austrian school of economics is an interesting thing to think of

#

the Austrians basically suggested that apart from normal economics you had to factor in time

vocal granite
#

On average, we get 1 major content drop a year
And beyond the initial hot fixes to make that content run smoothly
Like, 4 hotfixes?

shrewd cove
#

and right now

#

no offense but

#

fuck stupid little balance changes to little- used systems if new content that can be enjoyed by the masses are brought faster

subtle creek
#

every new player that joins like me that immediately sees there is no pvp, leaves without spending a dollar. Your game will not grow if you cater to a niche market

#

its that simple

#

i would easily drop the money for the champion pack if this server was well rounded

shrewd cove
#

i mean...

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you get pvp at 103

subtle creek
#

but a community like this simply casts good paying customers like me away

shrewd cove
#

i'd say any pvp craving people should just go to hypixel if they want pvp

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cause grinding 30 hours for a pvp feature seems sort of incongruent with effort

ripe grail
#

RPGs need pvp but its not exactly the case with wynncraft

vocal granite
#

Wynn at its core has always been pve based
Any attempts at pvp over the years just get abandoned quickly

ripe grail
#

also if u were around a little longer u would see that stuff like guilds have much more good paying customers

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who spend more time and money

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than someone who just joined and wants pvp

#

wynns main content is questing

subtle creek
#

a limited player base will only spend so much. Again, lots of people want both. anyone who joins the server looking for a new mmo experience that fullfills a huge market (runescape) and finds out that its missing half the features of said market, just leave.

ripe grail
#

and dungeons

subtle creek
#

it can still be pve focused first

ripe grail
#

limited playerbase?

subtle creek
#

and have pvp at least available in some form or fashion. nor does it need to be the first thing fixed or implemented

#

limited to what it is now

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not that its small currently

ripe grail
#

lol

subtle creek
#

just saying if you want it to be bigger

ripe grail
#

ye guild community is rather big

vocal granite
#

Also
Your comparison to runescape Wildy
Falls a bit flat, considering its very rare to see people actually pvp there and not just using the divination thing in the volcano or doing the agility course

subtle creek
#

i dont define big as 3000 players daily

ripe grail
#

I would say more than 50% of active players are part of the guild or prof community

subtle creek
#

considering the pvp is action based

ripe grail
#

actually if we include profs

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its way more

#

than 50%

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and lemme ask do u want to satisfy ur daily customers

#

or someone who just joined

subtle creek
#

ya know there is something called

#

both

#

the world isnt black or white

#

solutions can be an inbetween

#

not one of the other

#

yes or no

ripe grail
#

1.20 ruined many things

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as I said pvp

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if actually properly suggested

#

will take a few years

#

to be added

subtle creek
#

1.2 brought people to the game, like me, I idk you tell me what the market strategy is of the dev team. looks like theyre trying to expand rather than cow-tow to a few thousand people

ripe grail
#

oh well

#

im bored and got classes

#

if u r rly so passionate for pvp

#

go make a suggestion

shrewd cove
#

go play uhc hypixel

ripe grail
#

talking to me doesnt change anything

subtle creek
#

I did already

#

way before this conversation

vocal granite
#

1.20 also pissed off one of the major communities by revamping everything they knew and making years of effort null and void

ripe grail
#

@subtle creek ic

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also have u check wynncon servers

subtle creek
#

pve is great, and with pvp can be even better. but settling for one or the other is kinda meh to alot of mmo players

#

same goes for pvp only mmos

#

bdo as an example

subtle creek
shrewd cove
#

ew browser game

subtle creek
#

black desert?

shrewd cove
#

oh it's not that's good

vocal granite
#

When I played BDO, I never got into pvp outside of like fucking around with the trial stuff

gilded moon
subtle creek
#

bdo is basically only pvp focused, at least the purpose of the game is

vocal granite
#

I never cared to, and it didn't punish me for that

shrewd cove
#

hell

#

this hasn't been hell for an hour

ripe grail
gilded moon
#

gaming

subtle creek
#

the grinding mobs as pve is just a byproduct to get to the pvp

ripe grail
#

how do I join atlas inc

shrewd cove
#

probably would've stayed in #constructive_feedback if @ mods @ salted @ admins didn't put a 10 second cooldown in it

shrewd cove
#

pvp was never wynn's ultimate direction

#

it's a fun little content addition

ripe grail
#

have u played world of warcraft altamo?

shrewd cove
#

but you don't grind to be able to pvp

#

pvp's about killing people, wynn has keep inven you want true pvp with true stakes that's in the hunger games minigame type

#

start from nothing end with nothing

#

level up the grind with experience gained in game

ripe grail
#

ye ye anyhow

shrewd cove
#

wynncraft as a game is the ability to accumulate stuff to make an OP character

subtle creek
#

im not saying ti should be

#

im saying the mmos that are one or the other

#

dont do as well

#

as ones that are both

shrewd cove
#

yeah but that ain't wynncraft

subtle creek
#

bdo was pvp focused (pvp only)

hollow willow
#

Join TNI

shrewd cove
#

join ESIgay

oak dagger
#

@tribal marten fuck

ripe grail
#

@subtle creek idk how long u have played wynn for since u said 1.20 brought you. We cant rly explain everything so just play around and you will figure stuff out on ur ow

hollow willow
#

Poop

ripe grail
#

join ppfart

subtle creek
#

wynncraft can still be pve focused first

ripe grail
#

ppfart best guild

hollow willow
#

Obviously after GYP

ripe grail
#

nah

#

they on par

oak dagger
#

id love real pvp in wynn

#

especially if there was a dedicated arena where you wouldnt lose items

#

like the old nether

hollow willow
oak dagger
#

i only use crafted items now

hollow willow
#

Smh

vocal granite
#

Yall do we count warframe as an MMO?

ripe grail
#

do we count coolmathgames as MMO

vocal granite
#

Cause if we do, its almost exclusively pve, like the pvp modes are there as a joke and its massive

tribal marten
ripe grail
#

I would like to see a novasc suggestion on pvp

#

tree

tribal marten
#

already has been one

oak dagger
#

i def feel like a real pvp would be cool, hunted is just bad

ripe grail
#

@urban musk

#

w8 he has?

#

fk

#

ipinged

#

anochakdba

tribal marten
#

yeah it was a while back i think

ripe grail
#

sorry

#

ah ic

tribal marten
#

he made his own pvp thing in wynn in

#

wynncon

ripe grail
#

was it along the suggestion rampage?

#

ik

#

gaming

urban musk
#

Uh, hi.

#

Oh, no problem Dreams

#

Glad to see you know about my PvP experiment tho 😄

ripe grail
#

I would like pvp if 1. It wouldnt take so much time to make and 2. Didnt cause problems to the rest of the game

#

ur suggestions usually include both

#

so ye

#

guess I will have to go read it

#

found it

#

@subtle creek go read it as well

subtle creek
#

looks like my suggestion has already been implemented in the past; not sure why someone told me elsewhere here in the discord that pvp didnt exist

ripe grail
#

pvp did exist

#

in the past

#

was removed cause it died

subtle creek
#

because it was done poorly

#

if implemented like his demo video

#

could be loads of fun

#

saying that it used to exist in a bad way therefore we shouldnt have it again isnt a reasonable argument either

jagged monolith
#

mag

shrewd cove
#

sinbad

ripe grail
sage granite
#

weeb guild

tribal marten
#

join ironman btw guilder

azure egret
#

guilder

hazy bloom
#

guilder

hidden bronze
#

@sage granite claim

sage granite
#

why ping

hidden bronze
#

it had to be done

ripe grail
#

@sage granite ppfart

sage granite
#

shut u0p

ripe grail
#

it had to be done

#

bsoanvdia

#

i spilled my salad on my book while typing

#

fk karma

sage granite
#

that is karma

ripe grail
#

dude there is vinegar

#

all over my book

#

ffs

sage granite
#

repent from ppfart

ripe niche
#

do not !

sage granite
#

at least you have a vinegar book now

shut perch
#

Duck does this mean @sage granite

sage granite
#

it is song lyrics

shut perch
#

Edgy

azure egret
#

I agree

sage granite
#

what how

ripe niche
#

IT MEANS IN THE MIDST OF THE POURING OUT OF YOUR EGO

shut perch
#

Chryssie edgy

sage granite
#

it does not mean that

ripe niche
#

yes it does

shut perch
#

yes it does

azure egret
#

does it yes

lost tangle
#

It does yes

azure egret
#

yes,

ember cloak
#

chryssie edgy

shut perch
#

yes

shut perch
#

🐒

jovial stirrup
#

🐒

lost tangle
#

:(

shut perch
#

:(

jovial stirrup
#

():

lost tangle
#

:():

shut perch
#

Big mouf

#

Oh

#

There’s two eyes

lost tangle
#

4*

#

Its the chin eyes

shut perch
#

Yes

jovial stirrup
#

me when grootslung :():

shut perch
#

Ppslang

shut perch
#

Legendary

azure egret
#

monke

ripe niche
#

fuck cur all my homies absolutely despise cur

tribal marten
#

join ironman btw guild

sage granite
#

fuck cur

#

all my homies hate cur

pearl saddle
#

Hi cal

rapid arch
#

cur

shut perch
pearl saddle
#

hehe

#

lurkers united

ember cloak
#

game

lavish storm
#

umm how do i find/join a guild?

ripe niche
#

right

#

check pinned messages if you want a link to the guilds forums

#

in the top right

#

and to join a guild you type /gu join [tag] ingame although u have to be invited first

shut perch
#

pinnies

lavish storm
#

ill check it out

#

ngl i have no idea how to use a forum 😅

ripe niche
#

ok so uh

#

you click on the link

#

then you click on another link

#

and it brings you to that link

#

then within that link there may be other links

#

that can be pressed

#

you can apply on forums

lavish storm
#

i mean i found one that i want to join but i have no idea how to contact them to submit my inquiries

azure egret
#

you apply on the forum thread

lavish storm
#

im guessing i have to make an account?

azure egret
#

yeah

shut perch
#

time to see which guild it is

azure egret
#

eden

ornate forge
#

edn

#

🙏

ripe niche
#

gyp

shut perch
#

It was Imp

#

there should be a disclaimer on Imp

ornate forge
#

damn

#

yeah

#

poor people who apply thinking they play wynn lmao

ripe niche
#

tfw gyp is more active than imp

azure egret
#

gyp on top

#

I was sure it was going to be edn when I opened guild forums but then I saw cal

#

"I am not the senate"

ripe niche
#

also tfw a 3man war team was unable to attack a defenceless gyp terr

#

unable to win

#

claim

#

thing

azure egret
#

gyp too strong

ripe niche
#

channelling queen victoria's energy

shut perch
#

God save the Queen

half musk
#

c

white rampart
#

any guilds recruiting 👁️ 👃 👁️

ripe niche
#

fuck da monarchy

#

yeah join gyp

#

if i keep recruiting people from here eventually it'll be a real guild

azure egret
#

join edn

ripe niche
#

no

white rampart
#

what are the two factions about ? 👉 👈

ripe niche
lost tangle
#

They are the 2 mega alliances rn

white rampart
#

huh >.>

lost tangle
#

Goose has map control rn

#

Artemis had map control on 1.19

azure egret
#

by factions I think he means the guilds themselves

lost tangle
#

Oh

#

Oh ye im dumb

shut perch
#

Guild moments

white rampart
#

oh yeah

lost tangle
#

Gyp is meme guild

#

Eden is warring guild

shut perch
#

Hi

#

No*

azure egret
#

and gaming

shut perch
#

GYP is not meme

#

GYP is on top

white rampart
#

which guilds are in the goose faction 👀

shut perch
#

A few

lost tangle
#

All on the map

shut perch
#

Anyone you see on map + a couple

lost tangle
#

Ye, all on map + SPC, YMG and WFa

shut perch
#

Oh and iCo

lost tangle
#

ICo not goose

shut perch
#

Yes

lost tangle
#

Well not yet

shut perch
#

Eat them

ripe niche
#

dickhead

lost tangle
#

Gyp on the map tho

copper parcel
#

T O X I C

lost tangle
#

We are all gyp subs

ripe niche
#

still kinda want 2 terrs to change wynntils map colour but

#

can't be arsed really

white rampart
#

i dont know what these acronyms mean 😦

lost tangle
#

It was a joke

#

Sub refers to sub guild, a guild under control of another

ripe niche
#

acronyms are just

#

prefixes

#

for the guild

white rampart
#

oh ok

lost tangle
#

And ye the acronyms are the guild tags

ripe niche
#

e.g. EDN = Eden
GYP = British Empire (best guild btw)
uhh WFa = Wrath of the Fallen

#

etc.

lost tangle
#

I suggest looking on the forums for ur guild

shut perch
#

ANO = GYP sub

white rampart
#

did somebody say british saltedpog3

lost tangle
#

Oh ye btw does gyp have a thread?

ripe niche
#

cal you're my little sub

#

i

#

i'll make one rn

lost tangle
#

Bri ish

white rampart
#

how does one join the british empire 🙂

shut perch
#

YOOOOOOOOO

ripe niche
#

you uh

lost tangle
#

Bill is their leader

#

One of

ripe niche
#

i mean you're not really meant to

lost tangle
#

The leaders

ripe niche
#

but

#

👀

white rampart
#

you can colonise me if you want 🙊

lost tangle
#

Eden is gyp colony :D

ripe niche
#

thread created

lost tangle
#

Both good territorial maps

#

Tbh if i were to join a guild rn as a new player

ripe niche
#

Shy is cool if you're toxic but i like them all

lost tangle
#

Imo best growth potential is ICo or WFa

#

Nah not rly toxic

#

Shy cool

shut perch
#

WFa if french

#

best french guild

white rampart
#

im not really new i just havent gotten into the guilds scene 🙂

ripe niche
#

nah it's not necessarily toxicity but it's like

#

i share that sense of humour

lost tangle
#

Oh ye i mean new to guilds

white rampart
#

oh ok yeah

lost tangle
#

But most guilds are unique u gotta see what attracts you

white rampart
#

haha 6 years and never really been in an active one

lost tangle
#

Like ANO and Fox are big guilds focused more on community

#

AVO is the strongest war guild rn imo

shut perch
#

we've always been community mMmm

lost tangle
#

Hax has the highest level

civic bloom
lost tangle
#

Eden highest terrcount

civic bloom
#

and join their army

lost tangle
#

Tho both means nothing kek but new ppl like the shiny #1

white rampart
civic bloom
#

and then return to 1850

lost tangle
#

I heard lxa community was pretty pog aswell

civic bloom
#

or whenever the industrial revolution happened

lost tangle
#

Shy has constant fun vcs

#

ERN likes toes xd

#

Eden is also a pretty weird place

shut perch
#

Hestia guild cool community

white rampart
lost tangle
#

Wait is there an hestia guild?

shut perch
#

Hestia guilds*

lost tangle
#

Oh lmao

#

Eh idk about pun

civic bloom
#

Hestia

#

and sometimes Fox

lost tangle
#

I heard they kinda left wynn

#

Imp community looks good but it rly isnt about wynn lmao

#

Someday i might apply

shut perch
#

PUN havent left wynn smh

azure egret
#

ironman btw

lost tangle
#

For what i heard pun was demotivated af

shut perch
#

from warring

civic bloom
#

warring only

shut perch
#

they still very active ingame

lost tangle
#

GsW is the brazilian guild

#

Mag recently revived and looks pretty strong

#

Rays new guild lead by a mod and a duck

shut perch
#

a mod and duck

#

more like duck

lost tangle
#

Xd

white rampart
#

Eden looking kinda saltedpog3

lost tangle
#

Yes come

#

Let me send some propaganda

white rampart
#

i havent done any wars or anything before tho 😦

shut perch
#

EDN person sells EDN

lost tangle
#

Yes

#

Im not biased

#

Im as unbiased as a cigarette company saying cigarette does well for your heath

white rampart
#

can I apply by discord? I don't like putting my personal info on threads 😦

lost tangle
#

Recruitment 101

#

Ill dm the inv link bc idk if i can send links here

shut perch
#

you cant

white rampart
#

how do i find out how many hours I play a week ?

#

😅

shut perch
#

whats your ign?

white rampart
#

MrEp1c29

ripe niche
#

those numbers are a bit too high for you to be allowed into GYP

ripe niche
#

if you were a normal person absolutely not

#

but you're the fabled calluum so i could make an exception

tribal marten
#

@shut perch yoo can i see mine lmao

azure egret
#

how do u see that

ornate forge
#

Do me

tribal marten
#

pretty sure you can just take the link and edit ur username in

hollow willow
#

wait I need to see how addicted am I

chrome hull
#

alright ima take mine and i want you guys to guess what days ive participated in a guild war

tribal marten
#

lol

hollow willow
#

whats the thing

tribal marten
#

ive been pretty inactive recently ngl 😔

chrome hull
#

hold up how do i get the link

tribal marten
#

click "open link"

#

put your username in

hollow willow
#

ty

azure egret
#

game

hollow willow
#

wtf did I do monday

hollow willow
#

oh wait depends what timezone its on

tribal marten
#

true

tribal marten
#

lol

chrome hull
#

alright my defualt for openning links is explorer so thisll take me awhile to get mine

tribal marten
#

whats ur username

#

i can do it

chrome hull
#

Mega__ but with 5 underscores instead of 2

hollow willow
#

omg satled dont car about server

#

salted iz killing servreer 😡 😠 !!!

azure egret
#

true

#

me for owner

hollow willow
#

a rare picture of my dad

shut perch
#

I play abit

chrome hull
#

openning the link just takes me to the image

hollow willow
#

where is JFK when you need him for minecraft wars?

chrome hull
hollow willow
#

yes

#

you get paid

chrome hull
#

ooo how much

ripe niche
#

hate dying to lag sm

#

tilts me

tribal marten
#

yep

hollow willow
#

many

azure egret
#

more than 1 emerald a week

ripe niche
#

doing d&d part 4 too so kinda aids

chrome hull
#

dude im gonna be rich

#

time to defect to edn

ripe niche
#

respawns me in ternaves 😐 😐

chrome hull
#

i definately wont spy on you

tribal marten
#

join ironman btw guild like

azure egret
#

still waiting for hich and gyp to take over map

hollow willow
tribal marten
#

soon

chrome hull
#

btw can someone do the graph thing for me? i changed my discord nick to my mc name so you can just copy/paste it

tribal marten
#

i did

ripe niche
#

yeah gyp will take over when gyp stops lagging and dying