I haven't done pvp in ages
#guild_community
azure egret
azure egret
time to get on hy🅱️ixel after months
cloud pier
nowadays i log onto lunar for like 2 minutes every 3 months
destroy kids in practice and take my leave,
ember cloak
pog
azure egret
lunars bridge duels are buggy af
cloud pier
lunar has bridge what
azure egret
you can infinitely float if you keep placing blocks outside limit
yeah it does
pretty ass tho
anyone wanna bridge duel now
shut perch
ripe niche
when was this
shut perch
when a big frowny face frowned
welp I dislike warring
time to not war
for
awhile
azure egret
still got my skill in bridge
ripe niche
calling all units
calling absolutely ZERO units
anyone who wars ppfart will catch these hands
ripe grail
attack fart and I attack u
sage granite
ano got a different terr dummy
ripe niche
blocked message
ripe grail
chryssie is now piss color
ornate forge
hotbreak
shut perch
its a break and its sizzling
sage granite
dawnbreak but hotter
ripe niche
1 blocked message - Show message
azure egret
manic sage
discord literally said you were away
shut perch
discord is 
azure egret
manic sage
ripe niche
k
ember cloak
bedwars?
ember cloak
POGGING
sage granite
UVs
shut perch
cum
sage granite
bedwar
sage granite
noob
ember cloak
f
ripe niche
pretty cool eh?
oh wow that actually hrut my eyes
it may not look like it but i actually drew it by hand
shut perch
ponk
ripe niche
cal what is favourite colour in hex code
lost tangle
Fight me
tidal palm
@carmine coral
carmine coral
wide shadow
hi
potent ibex
TNL has T8
potent ibex
Shhh don’t insult Cath’s work like that
But legit it so so gosh dam hideous why the bow
sturdy heron
gimme gimme gimme
ornate forge
Shhh don’t insult Cath’s work like that
cath make t8 banner? lmao
sage granite
you make my heart go
ripe niche
you make mine go unga bunga aaa
sage granite
im going to post nsfw in guild community general chat
ripe niche
i can dm u the gyp discord server
ornate forge
every guild has their own discord server captan
there aint one that contains every single guild tho
royal horizon
hmm
It might be nice to have a large one with a category for each guild eligible for a slot. There are forum posts detailing the lists of guilds but not much of a way to have interguild politics besides this one channel and DMs
royal horizon
hmm
potent ibex
@ornate forge Cath made the banners
That’s right
You paid 120 stacks for something Cath made
vocal granite
A lot of guilds have animosity towards each other and such
sage granite
putting a bunch of guilds together is just #guild_community if #guild_community were a discord server
people shitposting and 99% lurk
ripe niche
a guild leaders discord would be p cool
would make one but dealing with idiots isn't enjoyable
potent ibex
Also I don’t know why people are making the changes to be extremely attacker sided, you have to remember that there are mechanics protecting the defender. What used to be a tug of war for control and dominance is now basically a war in which the attacker can no longer attack. The longer it goes on, it costs a lot more to attack a territory and even applies to new territories the defender takes. It also shields them for quite some time. I took a territory in jungle, my free war, and my next battle was over 20k
ripe niche
that's why you should kiss me ice
potent ibex
The system favors the attacking price going up to protect the defender over the pitiful four territories plan in which lets a guild with no territories war for cheap
potent ibex
So that is invalidated when a guild is attacked after a certain amount of times
My 2nd war having been 20k rather than the affordable 256
ripe niche
yep
wide shadow
i can dm u the gyp discord server
you will be dming me the gyp discord server
shut perch
you will be dming me the gyp discord server
ripe niche
have 101
flint shuttle
It might be nice to have a large one with a category for each guild eligible for...
it'd certainly be... interesting
it probably wouldn't do well, especially with how fractured guild relations can be rn across alliances
A lot of goose guilds harbour a lot of people who hate artemis guilds & vice versa
so it probably wouldn't work
without at least someone going apeshit on someone else
wide shadow
fucking love ivo
eager jackal
@cloud pier bitch
bitter bobcat
@cloud pier im your main hoe right
ripe niche
vova join gyp disc
bitter bobcat
ok
wide shadow
ripe niche
salted join gyp dsicord
rapid arch
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrat
civic bloom
Eden sus
gentle iris
that is so pog
devout crow
deaf
lost tangle
Bro it was a nee recruiter that made it <3
ripe niche
join gyp discord
devout crow
join CYxz
devout crow
CYxz
azure egret
may? it broke my ears
sorry drip too hard
lost tangle
@potent ibex cath made all banners?
Tbh they are pretty good up until t7
Gz to her
I would ping cath to tell this to her directly but i coudnt find her
cloud pier
<@!257497177901760512> im your main hoe right
yessir
bitter bobcat
pog
ripe niche
goden
ripe niche
join gyp disc?
civic bane
the srver lsit is clutre
ripe niche
do it anyway
civic bane
edn has ivo........
civic bane
how could we merge he take up all the space 🤸♂️
civic bane
he was as his first guild hes
lost tangle
Fox community
civic bane
yes
lost tangle
Not allowed
lost tangle
According to goose rule #6 ppl outside goose aren’t allowed to play the game
limber river
carrying fr
bitter bobcat
alone
lost tangle
And wynn rule #16 says community guilds cant war
civic bane
yup
limber river
v oooovaaaa aa
lost tangle
Ye thx ern
civic bane
idiot co has been dunked on
lost tangle
Giving content
limber river
wtfrick idiot co is epic
civic bane
i am not in artemis i have no idea
bitter bobcat
wtf .
civic bane
unfortunately i am quite occupied
man turtle shell really reminding me
we ran aerie several thousand times for guild emeralds in fox and it is useless now
pain
warm pine
Double XP weekend pogging?
wide shadow
Tragic
cloud pier
kiwi is weird
wide shadow
agreed
cloud pier
calluum ppfart owner
bitter bobcat
just like you're mom
shut perch
I’m just gonna sleep
cloud pier
huge balls
shut perch
Huge ball
cloud pier
azure egret
👍
ember cloak
ope 😳
eager jackal
do it bitch
devout crow
can we all vibe and be happy bc its dxp weekend 😄
devout crow
);
azure egret
double guild xp weekend when
ornate forge
Glow bulb in terr weekend when
cloud pier
PROF combat xp bonus when
lost tangle
double guild war weekend when
wide shadow
delete guilds weekend when
odd oxide
we got the pp shape territory once, cower in fear mortals because the holy pp will devour your life and hapiness
odd oxide
Succumb to the holy pp
odd oxide
pray to the holy pp
ember cloak
but you did
odd oxide
worship the holy pp
ember cloak
u switched up
ripe niche
@warm pine 1. kiss me 2. join gyp discord
storm tulip
ppfart
cloud pier
who got dicked this time fuck
ripe niche
you mayb
wide shadow
warm knoll
YOOO
azure egret
what are you doing Ivostepmom
lost tangle
i wanna be Ivostepbrother but i dont have champ
ornate forge
@nocturne valve onoes
ornate forge
i tink ur just slow
nocturne valve
no ):
regal stream
Ye
ornate forge
nocturne valve
ivo was
cloud pier
i was yeah
nocturne valve
for a bit
ornate forge
o
cloud pier
she left when i joined
nocturne valve
yeah i left around the time
cloud pier
sometimes i think she left bc of me and i want to blow my brains out
ornate forge
:(
cloud pier
town i got consul are you PROUD
ornate forge
town
cloud pier
speedran edn
nocturne valve
good job lev
cloud pier
i GAVE you perm consul bitch
ornate forge
wtfrick
cloud pier
it was supposed to be given to me
nocturne valve
i WAS perm consul
nocturne valve
then i left
ornate forge
ok buddy
nocturne valve
actually was i still dead when lev joined
did lev join when i was like
really inactive
i dont know
ornate forge
uh
cloud pier
nah jk lev deserved that stuff way more than i did i dont understand why it was offered to me and not to lev
nocturne valve
oh ok
nocturne valve
kiwi and dave joined around the time i was very inactive i think?
ornate forge
shrug
half musk
alright who did this
shut perch
for a second I lost my nick I think the world just ended
hollow willow
for a second I lost my nick I think the world just ended
the world ended on 1/20 yea y?
shut perch
yea#
ember cloak
shut perch
wide shadow
azure egret
briish
loud slate
anyone else's guild have -xp
azure egret
so that's what happens when you do /gu xp -100
ripe niche
you take the xp from the guild to level your classes
hollow willow
e
I mean Izz you can look through our war logs, I can't remember when was the last time TNI did a war in Gavel
potent ibex
TNI mainly pokes Wynn
Although guilds these days just send warrers to whatever guild gets attacked, so who even knows. But that isn’t viable anymore due to the 3 day thing
cloud pier
CXZ TNI GsW were not there at all
TNA 1 war bc hq was far away
IBT 4 wars
Aeq 7 wars
exotic plover
TNA is not on the map
cloud pier
izz CANNOT hold the L man
potent ibex
Who said they warred in Gavel
cloud pier
izz
potent ibex
I don’t see them war, they just sometimes get ceded Nesaak
Which most of the time TNI or Nia owns
cloud pier
find it incredibly funny that he's complaining about our allies helping
lmao WHAT are they supposed to do
eager jackal
ivomald
eager jackal
👨❤️💋👨
celest coyote
hum 🤡
hollow willow
yea Izz sorry I stopped digging at 27 january
hollow willow
also TNA is off map rn, so ofc they attacked you yesterday
cloud pier
nah u were referring to the raid
potent ibex
Well it was mainly because you were pointing out how many guilds were attacking, it was just a casual poke for most guilds. Most of us were just trying out new wars in a casual manner, ERN do be going at it tho
potent ibex
And maybe TAq
cloud pier
what
potent ibex
EDN made a good comeback yesterday, although I don’t really think it was from their allies but more so the fact personal emeralds were still usable on some worlds
They had allies helping, sure
hollow willow
anyway
potent ibex
But not that much
ornate forge
keep in mind we reset every single upgrade on our terrs minutes b4 we got raded lmao
ornate forge
byebye
cloud pier
every terr was defed with very low at the start
and we were speedrunning redefending lmao
potent ibex
I thought it was defended low because ERN had swept thru it prior
ornate forge
nah
potent ibex
The day before
azure egret
and I was sleeping 😎
ornate forge
our resources werent working
cloud pier
nah they warred that day but they just sat there really
ornate forge
so we had to reset everything
azure egret
they had half our terrs before I went to sleep
cloud pier
yep
azure egret
which was around this time
cloud pier
when k1w1 went to sleep we were fucked
i woke up to half our claim missing lmao
the best feeling
potent ibex
ERN hasn’t spent that much. They take the defeat if it will cost them, but it’s free now. They are severely outnumbered and I’m pretty impressed with their performance despite the fact
ornate forge
kiwi accidentaly fell asleep xD
cloud pier
yeah props to ern for warring that much and being so consistent
but learn to accept defeat from time to time
potent ibex
I wouldn’t expect any guild to own land amidst a mega alliance holding it. It has never happened between enemy parties, only neutral parties
cloud pier
ICo
potent ibex
Previous Artemis guilds have been dormant in the war scene so far, but that hasn’t stopped ERN
civic bloom
ICo moment
cloud pier
yeah ICo pretty much gave us a few good reason for us to let them stay and we let them lol
they're not in goose and they dont wish to join
cloud pier
wouldnt call it neutral
rapid arch
this is so sad
potent ibex
If ERN owns land they are an enemy to the entire map
exotic plover
I wouldn’t expect any guild to own land amidst a mega alliance holding it. It ha...
imp gate
ornate forge
lmao
cloud pier
ern alone won't be able to take a claim
potent ibex
That was unique.
cloud pier
they need artemis,
potent ibex
Any guild would need allies
cloud pier
bro thing is we're not so strict about being in goose in order to hold terrs
we have too many territories and too many enemies
rapid arch
well they couldnt fend for themself when we wiped them 1.19 without 80% help from allies
potent ibex
No one is marching in on a map to own land solo while the entire map is allied against them and has had resources stockpiles for weeks
cloud pier
and the system is attacker favored so we can't afford to pick a fight with every guild on the server
potent ibex
bro thing is we're not so strict about being in goose in order to hold terrs
You have a map in which Goose created, if a guild is attacked allies step in and cede it to their allies
I also wouldn’t say it is attacker favored because
The whole free war change doesn’t even world half the time
potent ibex
It becomes dummy expensive to attack a guild as you are attacking them
cloud pier
this is the most attacker favored system
potent ibex
Majority of the time ERN had to stop warring is because they have been attacking their enemy so long to the point where the costs is so high they cannot even afford another war
That’s why they end up attacking multiple guilds at once
rapid arch
I mean they stopped once and that point they had nothing so theres no problems with them clearly
potent ibex
There are mechanics to protect the defender. If they get attacked, the price goes very high
cloud pier
wait what
potent ibex
For everyone
azure egret
ERN is keeping wars alive I don't see other guilds much
cloud pier
im unsure costs go up the more u attack a terr
potent ibex
They do lmao
azure egret
they came after this hotfix
potent ibex
I took my free territory against Nia yesterday and it costed 20k for my next battle
Because they had been attacked earlier
If a guild is attacked and is losing territories, the price goes up
rapid arch
but i do have to say
potent ibex
AND it applies to any new territories they get
azure egret
fox was stuck in the corner of lf for a day
rapid arch
shout out to the boys at TNL
potent ibex
And get this
cloud pier
but you actually have to not know what you're doing to not make any progress on the map as an attacker
potent ibex
And if they retaliate, it goes up while you are in a stalemate
cloud pier
It only goes up on the territories you've attacked
potent ibex
Attackers can get somewhere, ofc
cloud pier
if you attack olux the price for llevi wont change
cloud pier
huh
cloud pier
i am
really doubtful of this
though im not sure myself i havent been on the offensive in 1.20
azure egret
69 🤣
ember cloak
LOL
potent ibex
There are mechanics to protect the guild getting attacked
Not an individual territory
The price scales the more a guild lost within a given period of time
Which is why after some time, especially if the defender is retaliating, it becomes too expensive for the broke attacker
potent ibex
And if you get wiped, now that guild has a shield on them for a while
So you cannot continue warring them
No one can
That’s what sucks too
cloud pier
10m each terr you take plus ur allies have the worst timers ever
there's like
a 20 minute grace period in which we just lose terrs
and are unable to do anything
potent ibex
After ten minutes
It’s even
Within that ten minutes the attacker cannot do that much btw
potent ibex
The free system only works for one war at a time, and you still have to wait for terrs to generate
cloud pier
bro just
potent ibex
The free system doesn’t even work half the time because of scaled cost
exotic plover
you can still get like 3 terrs before the first gets taken
cloud pier
nest yourself in a good territory set tax to 80% and u can start 4 wars at once
potent ibex
@cloud pier no you cannot
cloud pier
my man
potent ibex
The system does not let you
You can only conduct one war at a time until you have more than 4 terrs
cloud pier
? ???
deep dock
No
potent ibex
Attackers cannot attack multiple territories until they have more than 3 or 4 terrs
You can only conduct one war at a time
deep dock
i dont think thats true
potent ibex
It is true
ripe herald
yea xd
deep dock
it only applies for the first terr
cloud pier
ice youve got it all wrong man,
deep dock
if u attack price will increase even if ur wars are queued
thats why u cant start with 2
because if u have no hq u cant pay the 256
u have to wait
potent ibex
^
deep dock
2m
potent ibex
The lead an attacker gets is barely anything, and really it’s just to assure they don’t get stomped right away and incapable of doing anything - especially because of scaling costs which eventually makes the defender untouchable
deep dock
so do attackers attempting to reclaim
cloud pier
10 minute cooldown izz
potent ibex
@cloud pier after 12 minutes, that wait time is over because you are basically to pace
Keep in mind the attacker has literally zero resources
shut perch
ivo**mad((
potent ibex
Unlike the defender which has been stockpiling them
potent ibex
We need those 10 minutes
cloud pier
ivocalm,
shut perch
ivogame
cloud pier
jsut ivodontunderstandwhaticeissaying
deep dock
ice
cloud pier
ice
shut perch
potent ibex
@cloud pier if you have ever wondered why a guild stopped attacking you out of the blue, it is because they couldn’t afford to. Defenders get a huge shield that applies to ALL guilds even if it was just one guild that attacked them. Dummy high wait times that even invalidate the free war system
That is why when I attacked Nia yesterday my 2nd war was 20k
Just because some other guild attacked them earlier
Which I could never afford
deep dock
Yea its a shield mechanic
potent ibex
Especially cuz I cannot upgrade storage
ember cloak
they tried to win your love but there was nothing left
they just made u feel lonelyyyy
potent ibex
So anyone who thinks it is extremely attacker favor has it wrong
cloud pier
ice you know ur second war always costs 512emeralds right
ember cloak
I am not the man i used to be
potent ibex
You are not right
ember cloak
did some things i couldnt let you see
deep dock
no
potent ibex
Ivo
deep dock
it cost base 256 pretty sure
cloud pier
- Attack price:
0 territories: 0e
1 territory: 512e
2 territories: 1024e
3 territories: 2048e
4+ territories: 4096e
deep dock
its affected by tax
exotic plover
no Ivo thats not right
shut perch
did some things i couldnt let you see
im feeling kinda.... freaky
hypothetically
mathmatically
cloud pier
wait fr
shut perch
sympathetically
cloud pier
i thought salted said that lol
shut perch
if we were alone rn duck
exotic plover
1 territory: 256e
2 territories: 768e
3 territories: 2048e
4+ territories: 4096e
cloud pier
he did,
deep dock
probably changed it
deep dock
also taxes
ember cloak
if we were alone rn duck
Alone where cal
exotic plover
you dont pay taxes for the guild you are attacking
shut perch
Alone where cal
Desert west upper
deep dock
if u move through territories u do
ember cloak
ok ill meet you there cal
cloud pier
how
potent ibex
The defender buff price takes priority, yes
cloud pier
glitch?
exotic plover
if u move through territories u do
none for the guild you are attacking tho
cloud pier
love wynncraft mmorpg
cloud pier
best minecraft network
potent ibex
It isn’t a glitch doubt
exotic plover
you dont
cloud pier
yep yeah yes yup
deep dock
its just not the territory ur attacking
potent ibex
Ivo, so do you understand now that the attacker price is not always true?
potent ibex
I doubt it’s a bug
cloud pier
man 1.20 rly is hecking trash
exotic plover
its all territories of that guild
potent ibex
But right now, legit half of the time attackers don’t get the attacker price
Due to guilds randomly@ poking the map
And then we deal with it too
deep dock
i cant really test it but its stupid if its that way
exotic plover
i agree
potent ibex
The price applies to ALL guilds, not just attackers
It puts a shield on the defender for EVERYONE
so when I took a single terr from Nia, it costed me 20k for my next war lmao
Because Nia had a shield on it
deep dock
yea that makes sense
The point is to alleviate constant defending
gives defending guilds time to relax
potent ibex
So a guild like EDN with a huge ass claim, if multiple guilds are contesting your borders because it’s a giant claim, that shield price goes uppppp
It gives defenders time to relax, yes
Salted did say he wanted to help alleviate 24/7 warring
But the attackers end up not being able to attack anything
distant jewel
is there any room for small guilds lol
deep dock
Yes because its a shield for that time
potent ibex
The defenders are rich and have resources stockpiles, attackers have nothing
deep dock
just place to tax them
distant jewel
hahaha
potent ibex
Yes because its a shield for that time
Four guilds own the Wynn province and hence all get randomly poked by randos. The price for them is typically dummy high for every guild as a result
deep dock
fuzzy spiders
potent ibex
Love having to pay 22k for my 2nd war when my emerald storage is only 10k
potent ibex
What’s sucks is
You can wipe a guild
Their allies can cede them all their crap back
shut perch
jakey poo
potent ibex
And guess what, they have a shield now!
deep dock
true :(
potent ibex
That’s legit bs
shut perch
:C
deep dock
would people be against not being able to cede a territory to a guild with less than 4 claims
shut perch
does that mean you wont kiss me?
pulsar raft
yes
shut perch
💋
potent ibex
Wars really are not attacker sided
pulsar raft
💋
potent ibex
Like people think
deep dock
now they arent
cloud pier
😐
ember cloak
thank you ice, very cool
shut perch
Ivoface
cloud pier
ivoface
deep dock
1.19 wars tho 🤢🤢🤢
potent ibex
Also yeah, wars are down right now and some guilds are exploiting that fact
ember cloak
thank you ice, very cool
potent ibex
No problem
ember cloak
😄
deep dock
1.20 wars
deep dock
1.20 wars are actually entertaining to an extent
ember cloak
wynncar bad
shut perch
wynncar bad
cloud pier
war mechanic is fire but no point of holding terrs
shut perch
3k war
cloud pier
1.20 war mechanic > 1.19 war mechanic
man this update would be so much fucking fun if they readded xp to terrs
but
real xp not 6k/h
ember cloak
no cap
shut perch
6k is ltos !!!!!!!!!!!
cloud pier
it'll literally fix everyone's life
deep dock
oh you wanted to level up?? heres 6k per hour
cloud pier
angry dukc
ember cloak
that too 😠
potent ibex
They cannot re add xp to great extents while guilds can still get land without any input lmao
shut perch
if ANO had 1 terr it'd take 71.000 years to level up from mid way thru our current level to 81
cloud pier
want to lock ano in an oasis terr 😩
shut perch
we did that earlier
cloud pier
i saw
shut perch
ppfart took it into his own hands
cloud pier
ppfawrt 🙏
ember cloak
lmao
shut perch
hawt
ornate forge
i never got to 3k wars
shitter
fathom helm
👀
hollow willow
limber river
y’all rockin with 1.20 ⁉️
tribal marten
wait what is stopping someone from just giving their enemies one territory on the other side of the map
civic bane
nothing
tribal marten
gg
oak dagger
lost tangle
It was so slow this time lmao
potent ibex
I think there is huge confusion about the system and a lot of people think it is extremely attacker sided at the moment. I can assure you that is not completely the case. .
A guild with no land can set its HQ anywhere it wants, yes. It can only exclusively war from its headquarters, which means it has to generate resources and emeralds. That is what the ten minute delay provides, otherwise the attacker would be crushed instantly with no emeralds to start a war or resources to minimally defend. After ten minutes, that balance is gone.
NOW, this is where it gets more complicated. The developers said themselves they wanted to help alleviate defenders from 24/7 warring, and they were not lying. There are mechanics that protect the defender. If a guild is getting attacked and losing territories, the price to attack them scales. This means that the longer the fight rages on, especially if the defender is retaliating, it comes to a point where it becomes too expensive for the attacker to continue (if you have ever wondered why guilds all of a sudden stop warring). Any territory the defender gets, the price also takes effect. They basically become untouchable for sometime.
Its even more than that. This price shield applies to ALL guilds, NOT just the attacker guild.
Even better, the new system that allows a guild to war for reduced prices if they are below 4 territories does not function like that half of the time. You see, the system gives priority so the defender's price shield - aka if a guild attacked them and it raised the price, that price takes effect instead.
https://cdn.heyzeer0.net/screenshots/2021/02/HeyZeer0_2021-02-12_14-55-15.png
This is why yesterday when I decided to poke Nia and attack one jungle territory for free, my next war against them costed 22k. This was purely because some rando poked them earlier, not even us. But it applies to ALL guilds, not just the attacker, so the price shield was still up.
There are mechanisms protecting the defender. Not to mention that defending guilds have resources and emeralds stockpiled overtime versus the attacker which is only gaining at the time of battle. They also just lowered the price of defenses making defenders able to afford much heavier buffs.
Not a lot of people are knowledgeable about the above, probably only something attackers have picked up on from experience.
I'm not saying there is a problem with those mechanics
I'm just sharing they exist
The defender has protections, which you probably don't pick up on because it only impacts the attacker.
and potentially vice versa
Now that wars are free, yes, guilds will start poking at the system more
but it is nothing compared to prior to 1.20
or the height of wars before launch
A lot of 1.20 was based around commonly expressed concerns
#1: Multiple wars at once so that we wouldn't have to sub and that the system could reward player participation efficiently
#2: More protection for defenders
Both in which they addressed. When they released information on the update, they most hoped that this system would help make it so that guilds would not require 24/7 war efforts
That is one of their main goals
don't think they have forsaken it so early on
lost tangle
K
limber river
it’s black history month bro
ornate forge
Mans spends more time on guild politics essays then on his english essays bro
lost tangle
Imma read i think
ornate forge
Why u typing this much shit over a video game
lost tangle
Im curious
ornate forge
TLDR for me
limber river
are we still acting like subs are bad
ornate forge
Kinda ducking cringe typing this much over minecraft
potent ibex
A lot of people were questioning the system, that is a tldr of the system and how it functions
limber river
subs are just ez mode lol i wish i was doing this sooner
potent ibex
I didn't address subs in it
just that it was something people complained about in 1.19
limber river
want some guacamole
potent ibex
nothing in regards with subs in 1.20, just the fact that multiple wars are now a thing
lost tangle
@sterile owl its still bad for small guilds under certainlevel
But with 80% taxes
You can get a hell lot of emeralds
You don’t necessarily need to produce
I only read the first 2 paragraphs ill read the rest soon tm
potent ibex
Yes, taking chokepoints can help. Defending guilds are getting better at defending their chokepoints though
ornate forge
Mfer just pinged the wrong Ice
hazy field
lmao
earnest crypt
I think there is huge confusion about the system and a lot of people think it is...
this isnt really true. We have been attacked for like 18 hours now and still under attack.
hazy field
not warring 24/7
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and still own 3stxs bc of it
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Any guild that doesnt have 24/7 coverage makes so as the attacker has the advantage
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You just need to attack the time they arent covered
Also the cost to war isnt like 200-300ems?
When u just have one terr?
That can be generated so quickly
potent ibex
this isnt really true. We have been attacked for like 18 hours now and still und...
thats because a lot of guilds are really going out of their way for y'all since its dxp and y'all are abusing mirror cave or smthin i don't know the entire story
earnest crypt
ok so it doesnt discourage 24/7 warring
ornate forge
Oh yeah mirror
lost tangle
Even more than before
lament eagle
we're abusing mirror cave?
ornate forge
Where do I sign up for avo raid
limber river
Where do I sign up for avo raid
we kicked them yesterday
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If you lose a terr ur whole economy may get fucked
ornate forge
Awesome
lament eagle
damn 😔
ornate forge
Getting my 10alts onto wipe :)
potent ibex
@earnest crypt are they warring with much efficiency?
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I dont see where those mechanics prevetn 24/7 warring
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Eden and ern went on for like 70 hours non stop at the beggining of 1.20
@keen scarab how much warcount u have rn?
Eden ha slike 3 ppl with 500+ warcount
That is a hell lot of wars
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Specially on a system that is supposed to discourage wars
potent ibex
It shouldn't discourage wars
earnest crypt
well, it doesnt discourage 24/7 warring
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How would it protect the defender
earnest crypt
if you get wiped
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Without discouraging wars
earnest crypt
you can take any territory
potent ibex
The attacker ends up putting in the same, often more effort than the defender.
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Also ye i think defenders got better than in 1.19
But that is a good thing
The attacker always had a huge advantage
potent ibex
it is definitely better
potent ibex
Wars go much slower now. Nothing beats 1:30 wait-times and like 4 subs
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Also salted wants to see guilds like eden gone
potent ibex
that in itself is a blessing for defenders
earnest crypt
I think its harder to be the defender imo, but ive never been on the offensive
lost tangle
Ir at least reduced claims
He will keep pushing balance changes
Until he doesnt know how to balance anymore or until no guilds have 25+ terrs
Eden is oficially salted enemy lmao
potent ibex
There is also context to be given. Defenders are currently all allied, every single landholder is allied with one another.
That is an unofficial advantage
potent ibex
No we can't lmao
potent ibex
the war cost would go INSANELY high
earnest crypt
why is that an advantage?
earnest crypt
also what is our attack cost?
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Also managing terrs isnt easy
potent ibex
also what is our attack cost?
if a guild is losing territories quickly the price raises through the roof
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Taq, ano, bla, lxa, ern, phi
potent ibex
so if multiple guilds attack one guild, it will go up very high very quick
earnest crypt
well, ern's cost isnt going up
earnest crypt
and they are down to 3 terrs
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And awesome organization
hazy field
but we just had more people and more orgsanizaitons
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Nah avo fan lmao
potent ibex
I'll walk over to AVO claim rn and check the price. . bear with me
deep chasm
People think guild wars are skewed towards attackers, but this is not 100% the case
A guild with no land can set its HQ anywhere it wants, but it has to generate resources from its HQ only, hence the 10 minute delay to help the attackers. After 10 minutes, this advantage is gone.
The developers said they wanted to save defenders from 24/7 warring and came up with these mechanics:
If a guild is getting attacked and losing territories, the price to attack them goes up, the longer a fight goes on, the more expensive it is to attack until it becomes too expensive for the attackers. Any territory the defender gets, the price also takes effect.
This price shield applies to ALL guilds, NOT just the attacker guild.
The new system that allows guilds to war for reduced prices when below 4 territories also does not work half of the time. The system gives priority so the defender's price shield - aka if a guild attacked them and it raised the price, that price takes effect instead.
there
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I thought eden would have died on 1.20
deep chasm
there's an actual tldr
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And i would have joined avo
Lmao giant tldr
But I already read all
Ig
Also
Its hard af to balance economy
Specially while you are being raided
You have to adapt so quick
And qol on terr management is shit
Also we had to deal with so many bugs
Many times res werent being transported
We needed to learn about the storage problem
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Bro 2.1k in new system is nuts
Wynn should do an official ranking
Maybe reward top warrers :3
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Same with eden
We already had like 5 resets in total
We lost like 20million emeralds and so many res
Also olux i think was supposed to produce double res but it isnt and idk who to tel that
I made a bug report liek a month ago
And told a mod and they dais they coudnt do anything about it
Someone help
@keen scarab you planned going for llevi and swamp, you remember that olux had a star right?
lost tangle
Yes
deep chasm
llevi doesn't have a star
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But let me get the ss
tribal marten
<@!377543612810133504> what is the price to attack AVO
it was 15k emeralds for our second terr on AVO this morning
potent ibex
gg
tribal marten
where is this map you refer to?
potent ibex
I love that - you cannot even take a second terr because you don't have emerald bank capacity
potent ibex
wood terr?
tribal marten
that looks scuffed as hell
tribal marten
are the colors guilds?
potent ibex
no, resources
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Yellow crops