already in a guild lol
#guild_community
plain torrent
lost tangle
why advertise here lmao
atomic rock
hes doing it in every channel
halcyon sluice
cringe
ember cloak
what
ornate forge
Some guy was posting his twitch in every channel
ember cloak
lmao
deep chasm
or you can brand yourself as a war guild, attempt at holding terrs and rebrand yourself as a community guild when you inevitably fail
icy willow
Or you can keep failing just stay as a war guild
deep chasm
your community suffers though
pulsar raft
What’s a war guild
deep chasm
fighting a losing war isn't exactly good for morale
deep chasm
What’s a war guild
uh goose
pulsar raft
What’s a goose
deep chasm
what used to be artemis
deep chasm
What’s a goose
pulsar raft
What’s an Artemis
deep chasm
oh no
deep chasm
he's forgotten everything
deep chasm
its an allianec DUMBASS
im saying every guild inside
pulsar raft
What’s an Eden
deep chasm
is a war guild
ornate forge
O
civic bloom
what is society
hollow willow
Jake you still owe me 150 ArchangeLs, don't you remember?
deep chasm
icy willow
What is life
deep chasm
What is life
more like why is life
icy willow
deep chasm
icy willow
Wat
icy willow
This is why people want to raid eden
deep chasm
THEY'RE MOBILISING
ornate forge
oshi
hollow willow
ObamAgaints all odds, an action movie
hollow willow
This is why people want to raid eden
no not really
its more because I wanted to make Astha minecraft angry and their 0 warrers at midnight made it very easy for me
ornate forge
icy willow
Raiding Eden is the Area 51 meme of Wynn
hollow willow
Operation Subway fits more the role
icy willow
I feel like goose should disband and have a good ol free for all
That would be amazing
potent ibex
No
ornate forge
no
civic bloom
no
potent ibex
^
civic bloom
^
icy willow
Who needs le when you got war
civic bloom
you need LE to war
ornate forge
who needs war when you got le
deep chasm
Who needs le when you got war
how about you try destroy us yourselves
potent ibex
They would be stupid to disband, anyone would. It is mutually beneficial for everyone to be at peace especially when it will costs everyone so much otherwise
icy willow
Don’t worry 😉
deep chasm
instead of trying to make us do it for you
icy willow
Just wait
deep chasm
im waiting boss
ornate forge
lmao
deep chasm
im waiting
icy willow
Wait harder
civic bloom
and you pretty much you don't even need an entire alliance to disband in order to have people attack each other anyways
mock wars exist for a reason
¯_(ツ)_/¯
deep chasm
mock wars exist for a reason
ah yes
cannibalism
i love attacking my neighbours
even if they're my allies
icy willow
still...there needs to be some wars...competition is fun to have
deep chasm
still...there needs to be some wars...competition is fun to have
then why not be that competition
potent ibex
Nah
deep chasm
we're bored
ornate forge
then you should probs war
potent ibex
Wars are too expensive
ornate forge
Wars are too expensive
.
icy willow
BFS is about to don’t worry
civic bloom
if you want competition, be the competition yourself
deep chasm
wow
ornate forge
salted gonna have to make LE purchasable in the shop
hollow willow
lel
civic bloom
then you should probs war
i got a task for you lev
ornate forge
ok sir
civic bloom
put a timer
hollow willow
my dude ill tell ya
civic bloom
and speedrun yourself
icy willow
Pay to win time
hollow willow
if Sanctum, who was as inactive as it was enough, didnt exist
civic bloom
"How fast can EDN get rid of a raid speedrun any%"
hollow willow
then Artemis wouldve probably shot themselves first to have wars lmao
ornate forge
lmfao
ornate forge
love me some ffa
modern forge
cedeing all 50 terrs speedrun world record any% glitchless
potent ibex
They make you attack out of your own money because if you don’t and you are in a legitimate fight with another guild, the attack wait time is through the roof
hollow willow
id rather have that than be able to spend 2 le
potent ibex
Unless they changed that
hollow willow
I wish you couldnt do the 2 le war
icy willow
I miss the old guild wars where you can just attack
potent ibex
The whole being able to war from your own le kinda invalidates the whole system of resource management, ect
hollow willow
cause its litteraly what Salted said you wont b able to do
hold the map from anywhere
potent ibex
Like, instead of playing strategical points and taking land to route yourself to another guild, dodge taxes, ect
You can literally just war with 2 le
ornate forge
idk maybe they could have made so that war costs are calculated based on your current economy
so if u dont hav eshit
u get free wars
potent ibex
And not have to deal with the system
hollow willow
I mean
ofc guilds offmap need to use the 2 le, but we can find a way to change that
but imo its fked up that AVO for example can help in jungle
ornate forge
mhm
potent ibex
Yeah
civic bloom
but imo its fked up that AVO for example can help in jungle
nah nah nah here's the logical explanation to that
potent ibex
I think it kind of invalidated the whole system and what it is intended for if a rich player can just war out of their own money
ornate forge
they could also readd geting money reembersed after warring
civic bloom
guilds cannonically have airships they send to battle
but the game never makes mention of it
potent ibex
No they don’t
hollow willow
or maybe have a maximum territories range from HQ
potent ibex
Huh
See the thing is
The only repercussion from warring out of your own emeralds
Is the cost
For a guild that has land
It is overpowered
You basically void much of the game mechanics that would require strategy with your resources, you completely dodge taxes - you don’t even PAY taxes
Your enemy also doesn’t benefit
hollow willow
so say the max range is 20 terr, then TNI could like pay 2 le anywhere in Wynn and Ocean but when it comes to Gavel were forced to use guild emeralds to help
potent ibex
Because you aren’t paying taxes to them
hollow willow
I still dont understand why there's tax on the terr u attack tho
potent ibex
Typically what would happen is I would war, take one territory. If someone attacked it, I would get tax money to conduct another war. If they war with personal emeralds tho
The defender gets nothing
icy willow
Jeez
hollow willow
yes
icy willow
We must be trying to go pay to win on wynncraft
hollow willow
also make guild xp bombs already
potent ibex
I have mixed feeling about territory rewards. They need to have purpose and produce something but ehhh
It has to be balanced
Guild reqs were nerfed but
They also added insta terr feeding. You can give a guild land without their input or consent now
limber river
consent doesnt matter 💀 all guilds want territories
bitter bobcat
can we talk about how fucking ass xp seeking si rn
is rn*
it needs to be at least 20x better
potent ibex
Well it’s because they were looking at the system
Salted only expected guilds would hold around fifteen terrs or something
limber river
90k per hour 
hollow willow
I think it should be scaled on lvl
for lvl 1-10 guilds, assuming they get terr, its good I think
rapid arch
tax evasion 😎
hollow willow
but for lvl 90 guilds...
icy willow
Rip
hoary oyster
Hey
icy willow
cloud pier
Raiding Eden is the Area 51 meme of Wynn
it used to be fox man
cannot believe how far we've come
icy willow
I remember when black fangs was on the map 😦
ember cloak
Ivo drip
icy willow
Now we have to fight to get on lol
cloud pier
90% of our guilds had to fight 24/7 if they wanted to have a few terrs
it's not that 1 sided lol everyone should work for their success
not avo tho fuckers have it easy :(((
ember cloak
lmao
icy willow
Too bad people don’t wanna do that anymore
cloud pier
cannot express my hatred for the avician nation
ornate forge
avo smh
potent ibex
I’m changing our guild hierarchy because I came to the conclusion that we aren’t a dam country. We are merely a guild of soldiers from the Wynn province.
ember cloak
this is true
potent ibex
Guilds don’t even own land, they basically like gangs who say “this is our terf”
@cloud pier u can visit when I am not 18 players over the limit D:
ember cloak
true 😦 salted really owns all the land
cloud pier
eighteen wtf
ember cloak
a harsh truth but still reality
cloud pier
i remember edn was like 10 over the limit but we had a lot of ppl to kick
potent ibex
Nah update is worst timing
People become active
We cannot even invite people who came back for the update
cloud pier
the key is to have a lazy activity moderator like @ornate forge who doesnt care at all and just kicks everyone that hasnt logged on in 3 days 😎
ember cloak
ez
cloud pier
mf doesnt even notify the people he kicks
potent ibex
I would love a 3 day kick with a return to our brilliant old member system
But parly said no
cloud pier
guys ivomad is unable to log on the next few days anyone wanna demolish edn
potent ibex
ornate forge
bro
cloud pier
dont remind me ice 😔😔
potent ibex
I wonder if that is suppose to be Pally lmao
potent ibex
I went to Brazil and didn’t bring any devices with me
cloud pier
HOW IS HE ALIVE
potent ibex
Doesn’t mean I forgot my guild 😭
ripe niche
wow what a good person😌
potent ibex
I forced my military to play strategical war games prior to 1.20 launch and report me their results
icy willow
Fucking Gabi
shut perch
<@!257497177901760512> u can visit when I am not 18 players over the limit D:
We are 65/65
cloud pier
damn he lied,
potent ibex
Really??
shut perch
Yes
ripe niche
kick someone and inv me
potent ibex
You didn’t
cloud pier
cal is a god
potent ibex
YOU DID NOT DARE
shut perch
What
potent ibex
How could u 😭
shut perch
I’m in bed
jovial stirrup
give me a guild tome tenk you
potent ibex
You. . You kicked them
jovial stirrup
also does someone know when jujutsu kaisen ep comes out
shut perch
Yes they were past inactivity limit, I even checked in first with people
If only you payed a little more attention to parli chat you woulda known
cloud pier
man the vote in goose to have ppl like cal in the discord as community members passed like a week ago
potent ibex
I didn’t want to kick folks because I have hope the war system will get better and people will have content again
cloud pier
votes literally take 2 months to take effect
shut perch
Nor did I Ice
cloud pier
evere what guild u in
shut perch
Bla
jovial stirrup
b la
shut perch
He’s cute
jovial stirrup
absolutely no gu i ld tomes
cloud pier
cool 😎 👏
potent ibex
If the war system becomes viable to participate in, people may return. Guild wars were the main content for many people tho 😔
cloud pier
lmao i get 80% of the tomes edn gets
jovial stirrup
imagine warring rn
potent ibex
What does it look like
shut perch
Book
cloud pier
6 total i think
bitter bobcat
mm hot
cloud pier
ur fish bro
cloud pier
u have it easy
shut perch
Cork is tome farm
bitter bobcat
yoo we raiding cork??
cloud pier
me when three fish terr
shut perch
It’s also strategically really hard to hold
cloud pier
yoo we raiding cork??
ayooo
jovial stirrup
yo when are you guys giving me royal gate ???
jovial stirrup
yes fish arent good at defending
bitter bobcat
oh i mean
yeah fish arent good at defending but cork has a lot more then just fish
jovial stirrup
this whole map sucks my balls
potent ibex
Jungle became dogshit. It can literally be blocked off by someone taking two territories
cloud pier
fish is op what are u talking about
bitter bobcat
and uh .
potent ibex
Actually
bitter bobcat
corkus is incredibly easy to defend because you have a city and every type of resource
potent ibex
Jungle can be blocked off if someone really just takes bridge lmao
shut perch
corkus is incredibly easy to defend because you have a city and every type of re...
You’d thinf that’d make it good
potent ibex
Our Nesaak jungle claim would never work. They just take that one terr
cloud pier
Jungle can be blocked off if someone really just takes bridge lmao
same situation with SE and SI
one terr and its all gone
potent ibex
Yeah it’s dumb
bitter bobcat
You’d thinf that’d make it good
yes.
cloud pier
please please raid avo
shut perch
They’re so far away
jovial stirrup
the biggest monke moment is that you can attack across the map
shut perch
I’d rather raid tni as I wanna sit in deltas
jovial stirrup
what the fuck, why is that even an option
potent ibex
AVO has been behaving
bitter bobcat
what naughty boy has been misbehaving?
cloud pier
also im really curious
shut perch
Vova will put them into place
potent ibex
Put me in my place 😳
bitter bobcat
😊
shut perch
Oh no
rapid arch
lol
cloud pier
why havent u used subs on everyone yet or are u preparing for a big raid
or do u guys completely not care now
shut perch
I’m preparing to sleep
potent ibex
Subs are not viable
shut perch
I mean they are viable
potent ibex
Unless u have slots
cloud pier
Subs are not viable
what
potent ibex
Remember people still lack slots
shut perch
Subs are so viable
shut perch
Subs are more viable than ever
hollow willow
whating yo mom
bitter bobcat
dont you grind like 15 mins to have a sub with like 5 people
potent ibex
They are viable, but not if the main guild does not have slots
jovial stirrup
subs are beyond fuckng stupid
bitter bobcat
ah
potent ibex
Subs are brokennn
cloud pier
subs if used correctly are unbeatable
bitter bobcat
ok fair enough
jovial stirrup
this whole system is kinda stupid, like it has potential but its just retarded atm
potent ibex
Subs are dummy broken but most guilds cannot use them yet because they have like zero slots
shut perch
or do u guys completely not care now
I couldn’t care less to answer this
hollow willow
they are very beatable Ivo and yee know it
cloud pier
me when 20 subs on sky island 🙏🙏🙏🙏
shut perch
Me when ppfart takes desert from UVs
shut perch
Scam
hollow willow
Me when ppfart takes desert from UVs
this is why we need guns in Wynncraft, starting with GUNANGEL
cloud pier
@ember cloak
bitter bobcat
guys please join mag we have slots™️
potent ibex
I stopped caring until war system improves. I care about the system itself, not actual warring rn. System needs to be changed and executed differently first.
shut perch
Mag moment
bitter bobcat
fr .
jovial stirrup
tbh i dont think anyone wants to waste multiple stacks to then afterwards not even get tpd into the war
shut perch
Is mAg disc public
cloud pier
I stopped caring until war system improves. I care about the system itself, not ...
fax fax fax
bitter bobcat
not that public
bitter bobcat
tbh i dont think anyone wants to waste multiple stacks to then afterwards not ev...
didnt they fix not getting tp'd into wars
jovial stirrup
vova can i have royal gate
shut perch
No cool guest role?
jovial stirrup
okay ):
cloud pier
vova can i have corkus hehe
potent ibex
I get goose community member?
jovial stirrup
might have
bitter bobcat
it was great when mag spent 3 stacks on wiping ilq
jovial stirrup
ah still dont wanna waste multiple stacks cuz avo just arrives after like 5 minutes
shut perch
If Ice is in goose disc before me I will cry
cloud pier
it was great when mag spent 3 stacks on wiping ilq
lmao edn just removed every def from canyon that day and spend everything on emmy gain
potent ibex
Well, players that have a lot of money don’t care to use it if guilds is all they do
bitter bobcat
gaming
potent ibex
I was attacking EDN in canyon but
cloud pier
yeah WE MET LMAO
potent ibex
I could only attack like 1 terr cuz I refused to use my own emeralds
So it took forever
To get enough
jovial stirrup
the whole guild system right now is residentsleeper
cloud pier
yeah new update shits on poor ppl ngl
cloud pier
or on people reasonable enough not to spend all their money on wars
cloud pier
fuck poor people
fax
cloud pier
FAX
flint shuttle
mag moment
bitter bobcat
mag moment
cloud pier
oh god the brit has arrived
potent ibex
A lot of my money is reserved for events and prizes, and other guild needs. I’m not wasting it on wars 😭
cloud pier
time for me to depart
jovial stirrup
mac donalds
shut perch
Mag moment
.
flint shuttle
ilq wipe uwu
bitter bobcat
i asked cal if he could name me war minister and he said this isnt fox
calanders not CALLUUM ,.
potent ibex
I had fun warring Corkus, but once it became more of an expense I was like eh no thx
cloud pier
waw ministew desewves a cwinge awawd uwu
bitter bobcat
fuckj you im war minuister of mag
jovial stirrup
kermit seppuku
bitter bobcat
@trim bough war minister of mag
shut perch
War minister < general
cloud pier
guys what name for army leader is better
jovial stirrup
all titles < chief
cloud pier
warchief or marshal
bitter bobcat
war minister
jovial stirrup
warchief or marshal
barbarian or viking
cloud pier
pick from the TWO options
bitter bobcat
war minister
cloud pier
? ? ? ?? ?? ??
jovial stirrup
juggernaut
bitter bobcat
war minister
bitter bobcat
juggernaut/berserker sounds like a strategist rank ngl
jovial stirrup
monke beats all
jovial stirrup
i will kill you
shut perch
Please
ripe niche
no
jovial stirrup
u
jovial stirrup
hehe dcda
ripe niche
don't insult me like that
cloud pier
i just started jujutsu kaisen evere
i started it solely bc someone said i remind them of itadori and i was FLATTERED
warm knoll
rip lvl 69 eden 😦
still have this screenshot tho
pretty funny
it has the Thanos HQ, 69 Terrs and Lvl 69
half musk
damn it
half musk
whats stopping u
ripe grail
my bank
and having no artemis guilds war with me
so listen to my plan
every guild in existance attacks goose ok? then I join Goose and defend as I would get more wars done
master plan isnt it?
rapid arch
Idk what i'd do on wynn once i recover from the 2 stx spent on warring
ripe grail
ye I decided to quit a few days ago
havent logged on in a while
just vibing on discord servers
waiting for smth interesting to happen
rapid arch
pretty much same here
but tbf I usually play just for the wars
those gone its so boring 😖
rapid arch
lootrunning isnt really my thing and never has done especially late game SE/Rodo/Sky/Cotl/Void
ripe grail
wars gave something to strive for
flint shuttle
war minister is cringe asf
earnest crypt
Yeah wynn is kinda boring now without guild drama
ripe niche
that's why i kinda stopped
shut perch
Dr mundo 😩
ripe niche
his big meaty cleaver
half musk
😐
hollow willow
CAL JUST COCONUT MALLED ME
so thats your 2nd eh?
hollow willow
very
warm knoll
yo goose can we have war
no
ripe grail
:(
warm knoll
ok heres the deal
rapid arch
ikr
warm knoll
you can set a hq in our terrs so you can attack us without ur personal emeralds but you have to pay us 2le an hour
actually nvm that is cheap af
cloud pier
im pretty confident everyone's defenses are low af rn bc of tomes and stuff
attack bros,
warm knoll
3stx an hour
deal
rapid arch
when EDN becomes such a unit it desires gavel domination 😳
warm knoll
yes.
ripe grail
we can go invade some neighbouring guilds
bet
cloud pier
ayoooo??
warm knoll
-w-
lost tangle
bro eden being invited to valk rn, our quarrel with ern was just for image purposes
cloud pier
LMAO
lost tangle
we leading artemis into map domination again in exchange of all og fox and imp terrs
cloud pier
ayo let us replace ern in valk bro
lost tangle
no bad ivo
cloud pier
cannot express my hatred for the emorians guild man
flint shuttle
love how alive wars are in this new thrilling and engaging system
Ikr
lost tangle
i got to perm consul ina few months :3
flint shuttle
Shy went over like, 24 hours without losing anything till CNM took Eme trail yesterday
lost tangle
eden literally had to "attack" tnl for recruits to see how warring is
flint shuttle
;c
cloud pier
i was offered perm consul in my 3rd month of being in the guild
reFUSED bc lev deserved it way more than i do 😌
lost tangle
i was offered perm consul in my 3rd month of being in the guild
L too slow
i think i might have got sooner
cloud pier
we NEED ffas zones
lost tangle
moshi is right
flint shuttle
we need an opposition that isnt too cowardly to fucking fight
not saying artemis is cowardly but we need someone whos willing to actually fight with us
and they arent
lost tangle
ffa will just end up annexed
lost tangle
bc of the timers ivo
cloud pier
its about having fun in the game
cloud pier
weekly training wars? 🥺
lost tangle
ye but timers+trade routes make so a guild can only access few of the ffa
flint shuttle
& it'll just be dominated by whichever guild its next to
cloud pier
want to crack on avo 🙏
fresh berry
isn't it still 2LE per war?
fresh berry
yeah that's not viable
flint shuttle
A way of doing it could be contesting over an area of your territory with another guild
lost tangle
ivo is mad bc avo rejected his app LLLLLLLLLLLL
ancient arch
I'm sorry I've used up like half of my 32 le to war and can't war anymore 😦
flint shuttle
you both give up like, 4-5 terrs each & you contest over the overall 8-10 terrs
ripe niche
minerdwarf bro dont waste money
lost tangle
you both give up like, 4-5 terrs each & you contest over the overall 8-10 terrs
wont work well bc each guild knows it strength kind of
ancient arch
Bit late for that. Donated 10stx to a guild bank that got snapped away.
lost tangle
and there are few guilds on the same strength
flint shuttle
True
lost tangle
so u woudnt rly bet those if u know its more likely that you lose
flint shuttle
Unless u put nilf right next to eachother we'd have issues
lost tangle
oh ye rip the 4ish stxs i had on guild bank
potent ibex
I dropped my AirPods in water and they work 🙏
lost tangle
lmao
flint shuttle
I had jack shit in guild bank
potent ibex
They sound better even lmao
flint shuttle
:)
I basically just donated whatever lose emeralds i had to guild bank thats about it
i dont have the money to legitimately donate fuck tons
fresh berry
This wouldn't even be as much of an issue if we were allowed to keep our previous guild bank LE
lost tangle
ngl artemis should be wynn alliance and beat up shy <3
lost tangle
ye but legacy bank is kind of useless
flint shuttle
true
lost tangle
if u make 1mi per hour
flint shuttle
ngl artemis should be wynn alliance and beat up shy <3
No pls no
fresh berry
lmao
lost tangle
eden already reached 8mi bank b4 it was wiped by the upgrade removal bug
in like one day
cloud pier
murder the shadowfall guild
flint shuttle
as much as i want a fight, i dont want that much of a fight
cloud pier
fax
lost tangle
ok this is all joke
flint shuttle
eee the gif stopped working
lost tangle
i simp for moshi captain of ShadowFall guild
fresh berry
damn, guild politics getting spicy
lost tangle
:o
cloud pier
LMAO
lost tangle
then i dont simp for you
flint shuttle
LMAO
lost tangle
must be another moshi
cloud pier
damn,
flint shuttle
sorry bud im the only one
lost tangle
maybe it was a moshi900?
flint shuttle
I have a lot of simps
potent ibex
Artemis is a dormant war alliance on the verge of becoming a community institution
lost tangle
ivo its bc u have bigger dick
cloud pier
yep yeah yes yup
flint shuttle
Ngl i'd be content on seeing artemis again if they renamed themselves into another alliance
cloud pier
cock immense
flint shuttle
because then we'd have killed Artemis
lost tangle
why rename tho
potent ibex
We are snapping turtles now
lost tangle
lol
potent ibex
We eat the geeses
flint shuttle
lmfao ofc
potent ibex
It was Cath’s idea
flint shuttle
ye no but if Artemsi reclaims the map as artemis, we'll be insignificant, but if another alliance claims the map, even if it is just reskinned artemis, it'll make us more significant
artemis*
it'll just be a blip in Artemis' fucking massive supremacy on the map
potent ibex
Artemis is in zero way ever going to take back the map given the current 1.20 system
flint shuttle
so what're we naming them next?
lost tangle
im not even joking
flint shuttle
Diana?
flint shuttle
Roman version of Artemis, you're welcome
cloud pier
ivo alliance
lost tangle
hercules did kill some beast geese i think
flint shuttle
I mean we all know it'll have some stupid name
potent ibex
I mean, 1.20 was already the collapse of the alliance. The alliance’s strength was in its unity, but every guild basically stepped away uniformly upon launch and from there it was just a few linked guilds. A lot of people quit, for them pushing Artemis until 1.20 was just their way out and last run in the war scene
cloud pier
fr tho when will mods start listening to us man
potent ibex
Not a lot of people were excited after hero beta
cloud pier
literally pages of really good suggestions or alternatives for the update and mods are just ignoring us
potent ibex
Mods don’t even produce the content 😭
potent ibex
Content team is chill to
flint shuttle
^
potent ibex
But the devs uhh
flint shuttle
Can confirm
cloud pier
they listen but 🧍♂️
rapid arch
I mean artemis will own the map in the community realm after 1.20 at least 😌
flint shuttle
lost tangle
i mean they did fix game breaking bugs fairly quickly
lost tangle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/638903783446806559/748259580961882152/i...
this is why i simp for moshi900 and not for u L
ancient arch
I just remember how it took 2(?) weeks into hb for Desert to actually be warrable.
potent ibex
The remainder of Artemis members does not care enough to blow away all their Wynn life savings
lost tangle
we didnt have enough proof in the end of them abusing, just that they knew about it
i didnt ss the hqs
wait actually
ye i didnt ss the hqs
rapid arch
well yea, theres not enough of them to even budge a single person to spend a penny
potent ibex
It’s honestly been a depressing sight
flint shuttle
true
flint shuttle
^
potent ibex
To see so many people just no longer satisfied with the war feature, their only content in Wynncraft for many players
lost tangle
bc randos will just die
potent ibex
So they just step away
lost tangle
i woudnt mind guilds going back to 1.19
flint shuttle
same
potent ibex
Tbh me either. I love this system, but how it has been executed is 👎
lost tangle
tho i prefer 1.20 system complexity but it kills guilds
flint shuttle
Honestly i really like how new wars work aside from the fact i have to pay
potent ibex
Same
lost tangle
the spending part of it is rought
flint shuttle
Like, give us the old wars with the new warring system
lost tangle
ye i think the pay and the timers could be removed
flint shuttle
we dont wanna pay, but the towers are fun, the resources management is fun
cloud pier
Tbh me either. I love this system, but how it has been executed is 👎
concept is hella cool execution was just ass
lost tangle
the xp came back better than just 6k an hour
flint shuttle
it just feels like guilds as they were literally are being ignored in favour of what they want us to be
when our community doesn't want that and wont ever really like it
lost tangle
ye they dont want mega alliances
they might be creating the biggest mega alliance of all
flint shuttle
Mhm
lost tangle
bc if artemis goes community
randos dont have a chance
since u need to spend personal emeralds
potent ibex
I praised the update so much
flint shuttle
Ngl have alr considered quitting actually playing wynn due to how boring this is
potent ibex
But in the end, the execution was off
lost tangle
i am in the verge from breaking from wynn for months lmao
ancient arch
Art's true strat. Bore the opposing alliance into dying.
lost tangle
wont work
flint shuttle
thats actually something Artemis is good at
lost tangle
bc they bore themselves too
flint shuttle
true
rapid arch
if hurting itself, its not just us 😔
lost tangle
but it is a valid strategy
flint shuttle
Artemis is INCREDIBLY good at boring people
flint shuttle
it was
lost tangle
and also the small wipes eden did after leaving artemis was fun
flint shuttle
Ngl i feel like we're just zooming toward another Hax situation
lost tangle
wdym
flint shuttle
where wars are so broken that they aren't worth doing
lost tangle
bc of the 2le cost
lost tangle
i actually said that during hb
that this will kill most guilds and that the cost should be reduced 4-8 times
and reduce the timers by 2-4 times
flint shuttle
the cost should be made 0, kiwi
wise breach
5 emeralds
lost tangle
eh, 16eb is very affordable
flint shuttle
not really
wise breach
Is that good enough for you
lost tangle
and it accomplishes a bit of what they want
wise breach
How much does it cost rn
flint shuttle
2LE
ancient arch
2le
rapid arch
2le
flint shuttle
per war
lost tangle
2le
cloud pier
lmao
wise breach
ouch
flint shuttle
for one or two wars, thats nothing
lost tangle
may be upwards of 9le
flint shuttle
but for the fun wars where we're constantly in war, every time we're out we're into a new one & shit
its hella expensive
ancient arch
Yeah and the time it takes to go from 9le -> 2le is what 12hrs? ( I didn't time it)
cloud pier
literally
cloud pier
make wars affordable money and time wise
flint shuttle
Its just making everything hella static
cloud pier
and everyone will be happy
wise breach
if u keep warring?
cloud pier
everything else we can work on with time
shadow lava
the thing is if you are in control and no one is attacking you you can't war now
theres no more ffas
lost tangle
if u keep warring?
on the territory yes, its not linked to the guild but to the terr
flint shuttle
Just make wars free & timers have a set cap
wise breach
Oof
shadow lava
and attacking a big aliance like goose costs so much money
lost tangle
if wars are free no need for different timers
potent ibex
Guilds wars are one of the only end-game features available, and has served as the central content of Wynncraft for a large community of members for years. The new guild costs have efficiently robbed players of that opportunity, and hence for many, their interest in the server. Participation should not be dictated by the money a player possesses, especially at such costs. It should be a game for all to enjoy, not merely the rich.
If you really regard this community, you will not restrict participation at this level
And limit those who can participate in the system
Its already costs some players much of what they have
With this update came the opportunity to bring much activity to the guild scene
And in general, a lot more players being involved in the guild community
However, so far, participation has been suppressed
The average player and guild limited
New guilds in general got hit hard
The guild community has the potential to unlock much more and progress and grow, although there is little capacity to do so by the current game mechanics
It is already a sore sight what has happened within our existing community
I’ve never seen such a fallout
There are things that suck in the present that we will get used to with time, and it will get better
Like with guild slots. In the long term, for existing guilds, it will balance out eventually
But when it comes to the new, unprecedented cost of participation, it is a never ending expense to the player and guild.
wise breach
In the end it's up to the administration team
ancient arch
oh why
cloud pier
love how there can be 1 territory distance in between two terrs and you'd need to wait 50 mins to start a war
wise breach
The ct has already made their point on what could be improved
but we dont really have a final say
flint shuttle
Pepo, you could forward things, right?
shadow lava
In the end it's up to the administration team
😦 it seems sad that CT doesn't get any say in anything
wise breach
We already discussed it in ct chat
rapid arch
i loved when Nia was in MH with borders closed
shadow lava
considering how much effort they put into the game
flint shuttle
what did salted say?
rapid arch
it meant warring Kandon-beda took 45 mins
lost tangle
i mean, the update was trying to make so having 20+ terrs very hard
eden has 57 terrs and we arent even that strong
and opposition already said they wont try to overtake
wise breach
Salted wasnt in the discussion
lost tangle
so it kind of failed already the idea
wise breach
but he usually reads all of the ct chat
potent ibex
See, this is what we need. We need more awareness of guild issues across the CT. For example, much of the CT wasn't even aware of the glowbulb issue for months. We can tackle this now, please spread ANY awareness you can of the issue!
flint shuttle
true
wise breach
so he prob saw it
flint shuttle
probably
shadow lava
to be fair salted has been in this chat many times
wise breach
I know nyam made a big wall of text about it
lost tangle
do community helpers have more chat with staff?
wise breach
alta did too
flint shuttle
they dont, kiwi
cloud pier
See, this is what we need. We need more awareness of guild issues across the CT....
pepo WAS unsure about the war cost a few minutes ago too,
flint shuttle
the community helpers have a groupchat with colin, pepo & dwicey i believe
wise breach
Community helpers are in our staff discord yes
flint shuttle
wait since when?
wise breach
Like 2 weeks ago cause groups can only have 10 people
flint shuttle
Lmfao
lost tangle
maybe we throw spme guild peeps in there
flint shuttle
explains why i didnt know
yes make me community helper let me back in wynn staff 🔪
ornate forge
maybe we throw spme guild peeps in there
go join ct
potent ibex
Guilds wars are one of the only end-game features available, and has served as t...
This explains the issue in detail
mortal wadi
wise breach
pepo WAS unsure about the war cost a few minutes ago too,
I dont really have any decision on guild balancing and I've been so busy with alllll 1.20 content that I havent had time to keep up with all conversation
shadow lava
go join ct
from the sounds of it CT doesn't get any decision making power
flint shuttle
CT has no power, yeah
wise breach
I just started having more time to be active on this discord again lpl
ornate forge
brah
wise breach
I fixed the glowbulb issue as soon as I heard about it
carmine coral
flint shuttle
please dont judge people on CT for not knowing everything, we weren't required to know about it
wise breach
but I hadn't heard about it before
ornate forge
wow
wise breach
If you have a content related issue you can always come to me and I'll try to work on it
ornate forge
moshi bad ct
lost tangle
lev stop simping for moshi start simping for moshi900
cloud pier
i would love to apply for the CT and hopefully work on guilds but CTs don't really get a saying, it's just doing a ton of work for no reward 😎
ornate forge
was already simping for moshi900 idiot
ornate forge
moshi900 too hot sorry
carmine coral
youre 14 smh
wise breach
Well it's not like we dont have any say we did have early access to the guild system to test it
ornate forge
i would love to apply for the CT and hopefully work on guilds but CTs don't real...
so basically what you do now
cloud pier
fr
jovial stirrup
so did the ct conclude that the system wouldnt work?
flint shuttle
CT isn't a ton of work for no reward, the whole thing is pretty cool imo & you get to work on Wynn as a whole which is fucking epic
wise breach
It's just this specific came balance stuff that we cant really change ourselves
flint shuttle
- the people are epic uwu
wise breach
it's more of a salted to devs decision
wise breach
We have a 100x louder voice than the community though cause the ct in it's core is meant to be a big community group
jovial stirrup
is the guild system getting improved soon though?
wise breach
+ the people are epic uwu
You're also epic ❤️
flint shuttle
Ty <3
wise breach
I have no idea if it is
ancient arch
Delete guilds so guilds aren't a problem
flint shuttle
ice, they'll do what they can
wise breach
Like I said many ct members already talked about the guild issues in ct chat now it's up to salted
ornate forge
~~Delete guilds so guilds aren't a problem~~
+1
flint shuttle
people in CT do care about it & will push for it, u dont have to assume they'll just ignore
ornate forge
fox docs?
wise breach
talking about the issues with warring
flint shuttle
what were their issues..?
wise breach
The ct actually discusses a lot of things that you guys never hear about
flint shuttle
true
wise breach
we have like daily discussions on sooo many topics
jovial stirrup
eh, some of the issues in the pre 1.20 system stayed around for years so i guess its normal to be kinda worried that this system will stay the same too
flint shuttle
?
wise breach
Sometimes really small details
wise breach
Like the raid lvl cap, that's a weekly one
potent ibex
It’s a never ending expense
wise breach
potent ibex
Guilds have already spent stacks on a course of weeks, sometimes in the course of one night
jovial stirrup
last system had no potential, this one has potential but needs to be changed
flint shuttle
generally summary of the problems are
- The wars themselves are actually really fun, we like how the tower system works & resources
- Timers & Costs suck, they need to be removed and nerfed.
- Fucking nerf Aura
jovial stirrup
like rn id honestly prefer the pre 1.20 war system
wise breach
For now I really think posting threads on the wynncraft forums is the best way of making noise
jovial stirrup
a guild should not be able to attack across the map in 2 minutes, the price doesnt even matter it just shouldnt be possible
flint shuttle
ngl agree with that
wise breach
It usually sparks a huge discussion in ct chat like the glowbulb one
Tell kitten to make a salty thread
flint shuttle
but no offence, it needs to be someone in the community with a big enough voice who isn't seen as an absolute monkey
lost tangle
u can just forbid it
flint shuttle
no absolutely not cath
potent ibex
I make noise on forums
lost tangle
make so u cant attack terrs like more than 50 away from hq or smth
jovial stirrup
bruh cath actually reasonable
hollow willow
so tye?
flint shuttle
just get some guild leader who isn't hated on either side to do it for fucks sake
lost tangle
tye pog
flint shuttle
if cath or ice does it, goose will meme the fuck out of it
wise breach
I know you guys really like storming guild threads so do that
hollow willow
wake up the boomer x)
flint shuttle
get tye in here uwu
wise breach
Post like 3 threads on wynncraft
wise breach
From different guilds
hollow willow
Tye hasnt really tested the system anyway lul
flint shuttle
Cath can't do it
wise breach
With actual good points and suggestions
potent ibex
Yeah this issue shouldn’t be political
jovial stirrup
like some of these issues could be fixed with a one sentence rule its just stupid
ban subs already holy fuck
ancient arch
Isn't there already like a guild leader discord with all the major guild leaders?
flint shuttle
It isnt political, but it will be political
wise breach
That's a mod thing yeah
ornate forge
yuh
hollow willow
have fun enforcing that rule :/
wise breach
not an administration thing
lost tangle
idk eden isnt on that discord lmao
ornate forge
yeah we are kiwi lol
lost tangle
sad
potent ibex
That has been my biggest problem. Every time I talk about the update I feel like some people just warrant it as me being salty when they are actual issues that concern everyone
jovial stirrup
what discord rofl
lost tangle
since when
lost tangle
bruh
jovial stirrup
nah complaining is necessary, if no one complains that means its all good
lost tangle
i miss being the supreme eden leader
wise breach
Tbh being salty shows that u care m
ornate forge
shitter
wise breach
While it is annoying to read as a staff member
They're also the most effective types of threads lol
potent ibex
I’m thankful that Goose leaders have been very impartial
wise breach
If u raids actually good points
potent ibex
And actually recognize it as an issue
jovial stirrup
how could you not
ornate forge
recognize what as an issue
flint shuttle
Honestly artemis guild leaders & goose leaders should deffo just collaborate on a thread
post it on one of their accounts, collectively post it in every major guild discord
wise breach
So yeah my suggestion is to tell different guild leaders to post multiple threads on the forums with all issues and some good suggestions
flint shuttle
so like, every guild discord with 400-500+ people
ornate forge
pepsi
flint shuttle
pepsi
potent ibex
Oops auto correct
jovial stirrup
bruh it dont even have to be guild leaders, you just need a person who can write and can argument their opinion rofl
potent ibex
Get more CT in guild leader staff discord
wise breach
Link?
potent ibex
We also need more guild leaders in that discord
flint shuttle
bruh it dont even have to be guild leaders, you just need a person who can write...
nah we need a guild leader
otherwise it wont get out there
jovial stirrup
a guild leader that just goes unga bunga is literally completely useless
flint shuttle
Cath's post got out there because she gets her community to like & boost it
hoary oyster
FUCK YOIU
potent ibex
For now, who needs the discord link?
wide shadow
potent ibex
The guild CT discord has been like the best for results