idk about kapn
#guild_community
plucky cedar
ripe grail
Also how many times have u talked about goose being good here? Not direct advertising. HOWEVER I dont care if you do. This channel is exactly for that. recruiting ppl to guilds or alliances. The thing is stop as @deep chasm said "making the us vs them missconxption
deep chasm
Also how many times have u talked about goose being good here? Not direct advert...
i mean if you wanna go that far, talking about artemis and goose is advertising for both of us 
severe rover
Goose isnt the one who made the 'Us vs Them' concept
dont tell me I'm the only one who's seen Izz being toxic to like, fuck tons of Goose ppl
Or how artemis doesnt even try to reach out to the enemy alliance
and makes them do all the work if they're gonna work
deep chasm
yeah Izz was really mean to me
severe rover
Or how artemis is literally a toxic cesspit full of people who take this game so seriously they'll hate you over it.
plucky cedar
Izz attacking Shy. I remember that
severe rover
Legit, people in Artemis dislike Goose members for warring against them
ripe grail
ye ye monki monki
plucky cedar
hahhahahahah
plucky cedar
hi izz
deep chasm
they were really
ripe grail
just shut up and accept the fact that u r literally making ppl toxic cuz of ur toxicity
thats all
deep chasm
condescending to me
plucky cedar
severe rover
when its both
ripe grail
my fkin god
deep chasm
uh oh
sage granite
izz i will never forgive you for trying to kill my 8k hp mage with mob totem 🙃
ripe grail
but stop acting like its a goose problem
can u show me 1 place where i said its goose
plucky cedar
Goose I think we should leave. we are making them look toxic
ripe grail
@plucky cedar ok dude sure
deep chasm
deep chasm
is that ERN acted condescendingly to EDN
severe rover
ripe grail
u guys are the ones
deep chasm
and now we have their claims
severe rover
You're welcome, dream
deep chasm
EDN here are trying to be civil and not toxic
ripe grail
@severe rover wow yes skip the part i said artemis is toxic just not in #guild_community
ripe grail
good job pogcham
plucky cedar
is this a competition of whos more toxic??
severe rover
I wasn't talking about Artemis
plucky cedar
I dont understand the problem
ripe grail
ok im bored
severe rover
I havent been in an artemis guild in a long time to see its toxicity
plucky cedar
you arent in goose so why are you even discussing if we are toxic?
sage granite
idk dreams each time an art guild got wiped pre-1.20 goose celebrated and said guild acted like a sore loser
ripe grail
u guys just wish to be toxic go for it
severe rover
so, no comment
plucky cedar
thank you
ripe grail
just be aware the specifically u guys are the cause of the problem
plucky cedar
dw :D
ripe grail
aight then
severe rover
Toxicity existed before goose got together so stop acting like it started there.
plucky cedar
thanks for letting us know
ripe grail
@severe rover u dont seem to understand that im not protecting artemis
ripe grail
im just mad u guys are ruining guilds
plucky cedar
idk if izz is toxic
ripe grail
like ive trashtalked ppl in artemis for doin the same thing
plucky cedar
never heard anything
severe rover
When are we gonna acknowledge that its inherently toxic for Valkyrie guild leaders to inherently act like they're superior/know better/whatever to other people
severe rover
Also, just gonna say, I've never said Izz was directly toxic, but if a member of Shy did what Izz does, Artemis would be condemning the whole guild for it.
plucky cedar
its fine
ripe grail
like shut up no one cares who owns the map
plucky cedar
got it!
ripe grail
@plucky cedar do u read?
ripe grail
and goose bad artemis good
.
ripe grail
and goose bad artemis good
.
severe rover
Dream, no one cares we get you only give a fuck about community
sage granite
like shut up no one cares who owns the map
bro if no one cares then why do art guilds cry fowl each time they get wiped and pretend they dont care
plucky cedar
you are bashing Goose here yet you are still supporting Ice
severe rover
we aren't just talking about community.
plucky cedar
can you prove me wrong?
severe rover
welcome to Artemis being salty
ripe grail
i told ice to stop talkin here
severe rover
severe rover
ripe grail
neither art
ripe grail
@plucky cedar thats making no sense
plucky cedar
okke
severe rover
true, by supporting someone's guild and growing it, you are supporting them
plucky cedar
whatever
ripe grail
im the leader of Tea Party literally my moto there is: ur guild doesnt matter come have fun
and the reason
im being mad
is cuz u guys are making my members toxic
towards each other
severe rover
Ice would NOT have any platform to speak on
ripe grail
by making the us vs them concept
severe rover
if u didnt support him
ripe grail
if im supporting someones company it means that I cant say they r wrong
as a person
yes
severe rover
if Scorp promised to wipe someone off the map
no one would care
because scorp commands barely any war power in SPC
ripe grail
the thing u dont get is that idc about ANO as much as I do about my tea party
severe rover
If Doggy promised to, then you'd be concerned
plucky cedar
I would tell you a story
ripe grail
my platform comes over Ices
plucky cedar
but tbh you arent worth it
ripe grail
and thats why idc about ice
severe rover
because AVO has a FUCK ton of war power
plucky cedar
it wont change you
ripe grail
ok
severe rover
kakos, who are u talking to rn
ripe grail
i will leave this 10v1 fiesta
plucky cedar
dreams
ripe grail
have fun
plucky cedar
cya
ripe grail
also that proves my point
cloud pier
war
plucky cedar
bye
ripe grail
?
I got attacked by 5 ppl for voicing the opinion that art AND goose should drop the us vs them
cuz they claim that goose doesnt do that
and its only art
severe rover
goose doesnt do it like artemis, lmfao
ripe grail
or am i wrong?
cloud pier
Oh i see
severe rover
its always been us vs them, before goose was a thing
ripe grail
@severe rover u miss the point
cloud pier
Can you back up with evidence ? im just too lazy to read the whole chat
ripe grail
im not trashtalking goose
cloud pier
I'll speak to the goose members if they were really toxic towards you/art
plucky cedar
bruh
ripe grail
and wht u r saying is
plucky cedar
its like that irl
ripe grail
"we dont do it they started it"
severe rover
go for the root of the problem, dreams
half temple
Did i hear goose being toxic?
plucky cedar
you live in one of the countries that have the us vs them A TON
cloud pier
the us vs them principle has been here since the start of guilds kinda
severe rover
you're just hacking at branches
ripe grail
@severe rover everyone is the root of the problem
ripe grail
the us vs them principle has been here since the start of guilds kinda
ye but as i said wars and community are different things
when u bring them together it only causes problems
rapid arch
The ANO vote whether they should leave artemis 💀
plucky cedar
this is wynncraft. not a perfect server that is under 13yo under
there will always be the 2 sides of the coin
and you can choose to be the on the third one
severe rover
Valk is literally the root of the us vs them thing though, they are them, everyone else isn't
plucky cedar
but if you do, dont expect the other 2 sides to respect you
plucky cedar
you are asking us to respect you not wanting us vs them
plucky cedar
when you arent even involved in this us vs them scheme
you arent voicing your opinion only
sage granite
🤣
plucky cedar
you want it to happen
ripe grail
mhmmm obviously
isnt that why u would talk about smth?
anyhow imma go pick up my dog from the vet
severe rover
Also, lets be real, it'll always be us vs them if you want any sort of competition
plucky cedar
^^^
ripe grail
u guys just proved my point that u cant co exist since both alliances have some such toxic members
severe rover
dont demonise it, we can be friends with the people we can compete against
ripe grail
Also, lets be real, it'll always be us vs them if you want any sort of competiti...
keep the competition in wars not community
ripe grail
thats wht im saying
severe rover
we have a competitive BY NATURE community
ripe grail
u didnt read anything
just read whatever u wanted and ignored the rest
and then hit me with the "they started it" like im supposed to be a mediator or smth
severe rover
Izz, r u still there?
ripe grail
ok then
half temple
Love toxicity tbf 😩
severe rover
Ok, so I acknowledge that you weren't toxic toward edn/shy/avo
plucky cedar
so does Goose apparently
half temple
😂
severe rover
if a shy chief messaged you that
half temple
Ikr, we are extremely toxic kakos
severe rover
Shy, a guild with a 'toxic reputation'
cloud pier
LMAO YOOOOOOOO
half temple
Think about it this way pogchamop. Eden was extremely toxic when they were in artemis, they had a leadership change and suddenly they were giving smalling guilds claims and apologising for making fun of smaller guilds. Now they sre chill af
gentle iris
Kakos is pog
cloud pier
kinda rude NGL
ember cloak
Hi kakos369
cloud pier
guys can we just forget our differences and https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/803434949142511656.png?v=1
gentle iris
i heard kakos gets all the Greek females, is this true @plucky cedar
half temple
Literally all of them
severe rover
hidden bronze
half temple
Its kind of weird, theres just straight up no greek females left
severe rover
sage granite
severe rover
Edn raid go brrrr
sage granite
@hidden bronze
cloud pier
severe rover
guys what if
half temple
🙊
severe rover
😳
half temple
What if. We held hands ontop of the guild hq 🥵
sage granite
can i place my hq next to yours ?
half temple
OwO
gentle iris
👉 👈
half temple
😩😩😩😩
hidden bronze
Wtf
sage granite
half temple
Fox
sage granite
doggy
sage granite
fox raid when
half temple
Never
sage granite
bro
sage granite
whenever cyx finally gets their terrs
half temple
😂 😂
sage granite
😹
half temple
I spam messaged one of them for like a solid 20 minutes to stip lootrunning and deal with their terrs
And they were just like "just looking for mythics, ill be there soon"
half temple
😂 😂
cxz Had to deal with our own aswell as theres. And thats not easy with a limited amount of le and not being a huge guild
Hence why we just got eden to finish them off
Easier that way
deep chasm
Think about it this way pogchamop. Eden was extremely toxic when they were in ar...
excuse me? our leadership never changed?
deep chasm
bruh i know i made this and all but i meant for it to be like
you know
inside joke
i don't want it being spammed around
thank you
shut perch
sage granite
i agree
ripe niche
what if
everyone cedes everything to GYP
so that
GYP can own the entire map
then we all take our screenshots and GYP cedes it all back
ripe grail
@ripe niche ppfart
ripe niche
deep chasm
Orc Batt-L grounds
L-EDN Fortress has been defended
a momentous occasion
for the first time in a century
rapid arch
EDERN
frozen drum
Solo guild having a question: Is it normal for a "low" defense territory to deal 3000 undodgeable damage every 1/2 seconds?
Because.... I have no clue how you even survive long enough to cast a single spell
frozen drum
Alright, so any solo attempts have to be level 100+ tank build extreme warriors
Got it
shadow lava
frozen drum
Question: can a rouge at least dodge the aggro?
frozen drum
Yup
shut perch
no
frozen drum
Welp
severe rover
Alright, so any solo attempts have to be level 100+ tank build extreme warriors
laughs in 30k+ hp
vocal granite
Well theres always the option to join me and have support when warring shadowninja
ember cloak
Cal guilb also goob guilb
frozen drum
No, thanks, I have pride in being a solo guild
ember cloak
understandable
vocal granite
Fair enough, its just insanely difficult these days
frozen drum
It was already in the past
Can't be much worse now
Especially since random people cant get your territory anymore apparently
shut perch
oh they still can
ember cloak
yes
frozen drum
Well, not random people like me xD
shut perch
D:
warm knoll
sage granite
@shut perch what do cows drink
shut perch
water
hollow willow
What do fish drink
sage granite
cow cum
covert scaffold
Where can I go to look for good guilds to join
hollow willow
Where can I go to look for good guilds to join
hollow willow
get noobed on, cal
shut perch
I am currently crying
warm knoll
hi im looking to join a guild
fresh berry
humble stream
She
hazy bloom
Hello #guild_community 👋
So..
I was wondering if I could join an alliance?
Like goose or something maybe?
Or artemis?
Or any other I don't know?
(Guild: WCu, active members: ~10)
cloud pier
severe rover
Like goose or something maybe?
join goose we have Kap
hazy bloom
join goose we have Kap
How can I join?
lost tangle
Question: can a rouge at least dodge the aggro?
Im not sure but i think you can dodge with movement spells
But i didnt rly test
hazy bloom
Anyone knows how to join Goose?
frozen drum
Well, teleport didnt work, that much I know xD
hollow willow
tower hit you even when you're in vanish
west sable
hey can i join a guild i have a 105 archer and i also have a lvl 71 mage with a good pure
west sable
ice sounds like a familar name....
hmm
hey what guilds have you been in
iceresistance sounds so familar
potent ibex
I must disagree. The very story of guild history is hypocritical. It is an alliance fighting against a mega alliance to become exactly what they are fighting against.
There is always an alliance in power
Everyone is really just fighting for control
Mega alliances will always rise
And oppositions become the very thing they oppose
People only don’t like mega alliances when they aren’t on the beneficial end of it
I also beg to differ that joining an in game alliance would define your humanity
severe rover
Mega alliances create fun by adding a way in guilds for domination
thats only fun for so long
potent ibex
SE was never owned by Artemis like-wise
severe rover
we ALL were bored by artemis, we needed the goose raids
because its fune
fun*
to have massive raids
severe rover
and to war with your friends for 8 hours a day against a group of like minded people
You cant hold onto the map forever, but thats what an alliance like Artemis did
and tries to push as okay and the norm
potent ibex
No
severe rover
terra, now that was fun
potent ibex
And they will always rise back up
severe rover
Ok, and?
potent ibex
It struggled control its entire existence
severe rover
You dont consider it a mega alliance because you weren't in it we get it
severe rover
Terra is the ideal of mega alliances from a gameplay aspect.
No one gives a fuck about what lvl a guild is outside of the top 20ish members maybe?
but most captains are promoted due to warring
and most of them will have fun & be able to become closer with people in guilds during those raids
potent ibex
I don’t disagree
severe rover
you help a bigger majority by causing instability than u do by keeping everything stable
so by that logic, choosing to enforce massive amounts of stability by trying to help an alliance like Artemis regain control is just attempting to hurt guilds.
potent ibex
I think you are missing a major piece in the puzzle. Artemis was mutually going to fall. We were set on all going our own ways after 1.20. There is actually opposition now.
If Artemis took back the map it would actually have opposition now
potent ibex
It is the opposition that gives balance
severe rover
im getting bored of randos
potent ibex
And reason
severe rover
Oh yeah absolutely
i can't agree with u more on that
Guilds sucked in late 2019 till 2020 because of the lack of major opposition
potent ibex
I like a degree of order, but without an opposition it is without purpose
severe rover
people got so incredibly bored because there was nothing
There was Fox & Edn raids, Imp leaving the map, Coalition/Sanctum
but Sanc died months ago
& Fox and Edn raids focused on two guilds
potent ibex
Trust me, I know. I took a lunch break because of the lack of activity in the guild war climate.
severe rover
and 1.19 wars had no stakes, they could easily just wait for them to get bored
Oh yeah same
potent ibex
Without opposition there is no reason
potent ibex
What’s the point of being #1 or having land if it is unopposed? What is the accomplishment in that
ripe niche
cede to gyp
severe rover
IF there's an adequite opposition
but i never want to see Artemis on it again
not as it is
potent ibex
I am not without reason, and I value this like-wise. My Artemis recruitment messages are mostly meme content, however I think it addresses a broader topic. The reason why Artemis can carry on and wants to is because there is finally opposition.
severe rover
Personally i wouldnt mind seeing the map stay with Goose + MDM + Fox
but it'll be boring
potent ibex
If there was not an opposing force worthy of entertainment and actual competition, Artemis would have zero resolve
severe rover
& MDM will only last till more of us finish the light realm quest
its literally only there because people cant be bothered
to which i do applaud them
shut perch
wars are dogshit why would we bother
severe rover
In your opinion
shut perch
mmmmmmmhm
lost tangle
Mdm strat was good imo
severe rover
👀
ripe niche
yeah
potent ibex
Well, it definitely needs some tweaking
ripe niche
i have done 0
severe rover
hey kiwi wanna war in Edn together 😳
severe rover
very expensive
my build actually cost me money :c
thankfully my friends cba to charge me actual prices
potent ibex
@severe rover I was part of Terra. It is the very alliance that provided us with our original jungle claim. That period of guild history was the golden era. Post-Federation was a different time. There was minimal alliances, booming activity. Each guild had control over their own foreign policy and what you did was not everyone else’s business.
lost tangle
But I preferred cascade
potent ibex
And there were MANY alliances
severe rover
Honestly, I'm not TOO knowledgeable on guild politics around the time of Terra
potent ibex
I agree, it was the highlight of guilds
severe rover
personally, I was still incredibly new to guilds
terra hit & took out Luna probably a couple weeks into me having joined my first major guild?
lost tangle
I joined guilds on artemis era xd
severe rover
but personally for me, it was fun
potent ibex
It was the first time it wasn’t a mega alliance on the map, and no one was pushing for a new one after Federation’s nearly one year long reign
severe rover
the instability made for a fun challenge & I enjoyed to help my guild
lost tangle
Being on artemis was good to eden to provide us experience
lost tangle
And tbh more xp than we deserved on the first half of 2020
Oh ye one of the big reasons we left was that it was boring af
After lf raids ceased
severe rover
personally, nowadays i don't wish to be on the side of an alliance I had no part in fighting for
lost tangle
Opposition just hibernated
lost tangle
personally, nowadays i don't wish to be on the side of an alliance I had no part...
Same i always felt like an outsider at artemis
severe rover
i get people joining & leaving guilds is part of the way guilds maintain, but If i'm gonna be on map and proud of that, i want to have fought for it myself with everyone else in my guild & the alliance
I fought AGAINST artemis, i never felt like I should've been in it
if goose gains the map now, i wont be too thrilled
but i wont hate it
because i've done the MOST i can to help my guild
potent ibex
When I started guilds for the second time, it was an era where Hax had owned the map for well over a year. Beats any mega alliance.
wars were not even viable
severe rover
Hopefully this update will bring the rise to the guilds who fight tooth and nail for it tbh
potent ibex
Wars getting glitchy
severe rover
rip
tbh it seems to just be another period in guild history no one enjoys
so no one talks about
though 90% of guilds isn't talked about, its just the main shit
potent ibex
Guilds think they have it bad today. Back then wars did not even work and the wait time was 5 minutes. Most of the time it wouldn’t even teleport you into the war, and if it did, mobs probably wouldn’t even spawn
severe rover
Terra's rise and fall will be documented, Artemis' too, same with goose, same with fed & luna
but we dont get the shit inbetween
potent ibex
Wars were so luck based
severe rover
but tbh rn we're experiencing a really interesting time in what will be guild history one day
ripe niche
when we get the map i wanna push for more ffas
severe rover
its the first time we've had dual alliances on the map since Sentinals
potent ibex
Trust when I say wars back in the day and alliances were a lot more interesting. Only time period that holds a candle to it is post-Fed
The alliances that came before us set the example
severe rover
we just saw the war alliance that was the first to wipe fox in like, 3 years?
potent ibex
And the general atmosphere of guilds
vocal granite
What am I missing atm
severe rover
your HQ?
potent ibex
Fox still hasn’t been defeated. That’s the true accomplishment
Even now they reign as #1 on the terr map
Sorry I’m a Fox simp ngl
severe rover
Fox was defeated the moment it lost Sinister forest.
vocal granite
Also I think my HQ is still alive
potent ibex
They reclaimed ridiculously quick
severe rover
idk if it is
potent ibex
They were not suppressed
potent ibex
From that perspective, it was a victory. Fox was wiped momentarily, as would anyone with that strategy
vocal granite
Just checked and my hq is still there
severe rover
Doesn't make it any less of a moment
potent ibex
I’ve never cared about my guild being wiped. If we reclaim, it’s good
severe rover
was Hax holding the map for a year by themselves less of an event in guild history because it was due to bugs?
Fox got wiped, and it took a lot of the power out from them
potent ibex
Fox not being wiped that long was purely chance ngl
I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner
severe rover
i mean, aren't we all?
potent ibex
Like, they are strong and retaliate quick and long avoided a wipe
vocal granite
3 years almost
Was kinda nutty
severe rover
but Goose wiping fox made 2 significant things happen
-It made Fox seem weaker as a guild and took out one of their main pillars of how they considered themselves strong
-It made Goose seem stronger, maybe even stronger than any of the opposition before it if you aren't well versed
potent ibex
Well
severe rover
Goose is by no means the strongest, that would be really hard to rate
vocal granite
1 battle doesn't win a war
potent ibex
I kind of disagree, and I’ve spoken to other Goose people about this too in which they brought up
If anything
It really shined on Fox’s strength
severe rover
and also, Goose wiping fox helped goose gain the momentum to keep going again
potent ibex
They would have been wiped regardless
potent ibex
But within a fraction of time, they retained much of their claim
They are incredible. Their history and accomplishments are like no other
severe rover
Then ILQ got wiped again, then all sorts of shit
Now we're in a map where EDN hold Llevigar, Shy hold ragni/nemract, the desert is a shit fest and Ano is nowhere to be seen
its quite peculiar
potent ibex
Yeah we aren’t 😄
vocal granite
Desert is a shit fest
You are welcome
potent ibex
We have barely touched the war system. I tried like two wars in Aldorei just to see my build
severe rover
Come war more Ice, it'll be fun
potent ibex
Not much point yet
severe rover
I've got 111 wars currently and I'm still finding it fun
vocal granite
When a true major battle happens, that will test the strength of goose
earnest crypt
same
severe rover
I dont doubt we'll see many goose guilds fall
Niflheim will survive, they've gone over many weaker guilds claims to make their claims
TNL may have its weaknesses, but Phi isn't an overly active guild
and thats the only guild i'd be concerned about
Edn/Aeq are iffy, they'll likely retreat
shut perch
Oh ice we got 80 just now btw
severe rover
thats because turtle pumped his whole legacy bank into a guild tower
then spent the extra on a guild banner upgrade
potent ibex
Artemis was mainly pushing to maintain its dominant status over the map until 1.20 launched, letting that era of history end with the alliance’s victory, since there is a new war system now. We just chilling now for a bit.
I don’t know our next course of action
shut perch
severe rover
Tbh i'd be interested in seeing alliances split up
potent ibex
It won’t happen
severe rover
I wanna see numerous smaller alliances hold map and be strategical
rather than goose v artemis
potent ibex
So long as opposition exist, both alliances have reasons to stay together
One splitting would shoot themselves in the foot
severe rover
not if artemis split, too
Besides, we're now seeing other alliances crop up, are we not?
earnest crypt
well I dont think there will be a mutual agreement to split up
potent ibex
All the main map powers are in either goose or Artemis
severe rover
I mean, ReA, Oce & ASh are all almost certainly allied, and Ghz was feeding into Oce earlier so its safe to assume they'll be siding with them
and they've all been causing an absolute ruckus in Wynn
vocal granite
I mean, ReA, Oce & ASh are all almost certainly allied, and Ghz was feeding into...
Do you know who I am?
potent ibex
Besides, we all see in black and white. We see Artemis guilds and goose guilds. As long as that is our perspective, it doesn’t change
vocal granite
So I assume you know what guild I lead pog
severe rover
I do
potent ibex
Those are community alliances part of mega war alliances
severe rover
they are
but they each act as a war alliance, too
and hold the most allegiance to their community alliance members above the rest of the alliance
shut perch
I like rea
severe rover
then you're a shit community alliance
vocal granite
ReA, ASh and Oce aint made any agreements, i just play destiny and genshin with turtle a lot
potent ibex
How so
severe rover
Community alliances should have strong enough friendships to stay together no matter what happens politically
but also strong enough that you dont wish to move against your other members
vocal granite
I like rea
Thank you
potent ibex
Community alliances are only in action to interact with other guilds and form a larger sense of community among guilds
severe rover
I mean, in what world do you see a Valk guild splitting again?
Its happened before, and it could happen again
but its incredibly unlikely
potent ibex
@severe rover that isn’t what I said. If a Hestia guild was in an opposite alliance they would still be in Hestia. We separate community from war.
severe rover
because they're a strong alliance that move together in warring because they're stronger together
potent ibex
#the difference is that Valk has a constitution that enforces war relations
Hestia does not
potent ibex
Valkyrie is a community alliance that functions as a war alliance
shut perch
What kind of community alliance has political bindings
potent ibex
Like Valk functions as a war alliance because it is in their constitution to act as such.
severe rover
If you're in a community alliance, your best bet will always to be politically cohesive and move as a unit
potent ibex
The war feature is purely a game. I could live if LXA joined Goose
severe rover
else political relations & such
potent ibex
For example
shut perch
I really liked our event with TNI
severe rover
Gonna be real, dont really have much like for any of the Artemis guilds
potent ibex
Our war relations does not define how I interact with them and how I feel about them. There is separation.
shut perch
Does that mean you feel dislike for them? Or just no like
sturdy heron
everyones great
severe rover
some guilds especially feel incredibly closed off
shut perch
Fax
vocal granite
Hey viaire
potent ibex
everyones great
❤️
sturdy heron
Heyo 🙂
shut perch
There aren’t any guilds I really say I dislike, I like all guilds basically
severe rover
There's a few guilds I dislike
shut perch
There are some characters in some I would dislike but they don’t bring the guild with them
potent ibex
Obviously it will be hard to approach a guild or a player if they are insulting you.
severe rover
though i must admit, i dislike them primarily because of one individual
potent ibex
And vice versa
It’s everywhere
And I do not like how war taints community relations
vocal granite
Ik people dislike me because of shenanigans in the past or who I associate with
shut perch
Single people don’t represent guilds to me otherwise I really could find a reason to dislike most guilds
potent ibex
^
severe rover
i'm distrustful of you because of who you associate with, madden
but i dont dislike you because of it
and, i think it depends
plucky cedar
Madden do you hate ESI?
severe rover
if the guild leader is an abhorrent person
plucky cedar
They took our HQ today
severe rover
then i'm going to dislike the guild
potent ibex
That is a pretty rare circumstance
severe rover
kind of like how Oce/ASh are ostracised from a lot of guild politics due to how people generally have huge dislike of their leadership
plucky cedar
EDN too in the past
potent ibex
Art is a cool person
vocal granite
Turtle also kinda retired from guild politics
severe rover
he had no choice, though
potent ibex
Astha moment 😭
severe rover
the man got blasted as a fucking pedophile
shut perch
spiral oak
is it possible to get some territory with 4 people??
severe rover
who wants to work with someone accused of that?
shut perch
Yes
spiral oak
we just starters all of us 35
shut perch
I mean it is possible with 4 people
spiral oak
we dont even have the guild 😄
severe rover
being accused of something that vile is impossible to recover your reputation from
plucky cedar
You cannot
shut perch
It’s so possible
spiral oak
like 80 level?
shut perch
Just believe
ornate forge
lvl 100+
spiral oak
all of us 4 level 80?
plucky cedar
Make it 100+
severe rover
being accused of being a pedophile is possible to recover from?
what?
it ruins people's lives, with good reason most often
shut perch
I was talking about warring not turtle
potent ibex
being accused of something that vile is *impossible* to recover your reputation ...
Reputation can always recover. I was so annoying back then. Some may still think I am but it’s bc they lack a sense of humor.
severe rover
oh yeah ok
ice im literally talking about pedo accusations
you cannot and will never recover from that within a community
potent ibex
Okay so
severe rover
people will always remember that and will always be iffy around you due to those
doesnt matter about whether she was lying.
potent ibex
Accusation is accusation. That does not mean truth.
plucky cedar
No. Turtle was accused of pedophilia lev
potent ibex
I don’t know the story so I’m not going to get involved
vocal granite
Its a long one ice
potent ibex
I do not think this is the proper place for such discussion
vocal granite
I've seen the full thing
severe rover
and?
vocal granite
Turtle acted stupid, but I didn't see anything that made him a pedo
I yelled at him for something else with that scenario, but let's end that there
severe rover
aight
vocal granite
Turtle walked away from politics for his own reasons
potent ibex
Yeah umm
Xp from terrs will definitely not be able to return that high
It will have to be nerfed
Level reqs got hit hard
hollow willow
make imp gate the only terr with mob xp
shut perch
Yes
hollow willow
we'll just rename it to Nether Gate 2
potent ibex
That’s how cool Imp is
That they had to rename the terr
Imperial is truly a cool guild
They have transcended Wynn
hollow willow
mfw Desolate valley instead of angry village
potent ibex
They are now an independent community
hollow willow
They have transcended Wynn
not as much as eden getting the angr of salted
ember cloak
pog
shut perch
DUCK POG
vocal granite
How did eden piss off salted?
lost tangle
They renamed the terr bc fruma isnt a empire
shut perch
I don’t hate ice
severe rover
was a joke
potent ibex
I barely consider myself leader. I put parliament above myself.
hollow willow
How did eden piss off salted?
salted called people to gang up on eden for owning all west gavel
lost tangle
Pog
vocal granite
Wait actually?
hollow willow
We didnt piss him
YOU ANGERED THE COW
lost tangle
He also asked ppl to gang up on fox
plucky cedar
He just doesnt wanna see mega alliances
hollow willow
I TOLD YOU YOU HAD TO SACRIFICE ASTHA'S MONER
ornate forge
slay the furries
lost tangle
He said he was proud of one of my senators uwu
sturdy heron
Pls someone eat the apple
lost tangle
He wanted the max terr to be like 20ish
shut perch
vocal granite
15 i heard
sturdy heron
🍎 🐍
hollow willow
Pls someone eat the apple
I can't, eden got a warteam at 2 am now 😔
vocal granite
Yea that won't happen
potent ibex
But there isn’t enough opposition for such a thing
potent ibex
As of this very moment
lost tangle
Warman
warm knoll
i wonder how easy it would be to set off the entire guild community into having a world war
lost tangle
There was tho
potent ibex
Not easy
sturdy heron
2am 😮 need sleep
shut perch
Go sleep 💤
hollow willow
i wonder how easy it would be to set off the entire guild community into having ...
arent we already having one?
potent ibex
@warm knoll actually depends
warm knoll
one even more furious than the current one
potent ibex
How much u paying
lost tangle
I did 225 wars in the first 3 days against ern
warm knoll
i bet i could
hollow willow
oh there was worse
lost tangle
That was opposition lol
plucky cedar
There is a problem with that oculism
vocal granite
Depends, can you make the war system not suck
plucky cedar
And its called "mod team"
ember cloak
wut
vocal granite
And terrs worth keeping
ember cloak
i like new wars way better than old wars
hollow willow
Ocu as far as I remember, there's always been only 2 alliances
lost tangle
i like new wars way better than old wars
.
potent ibex
False
vocal granite
I dont, im even more bored than with the old ones
warm knoll
And its called "mod team"
there isn’t a rule against stirring up total war
hollow willow
id love to see a 1984 war with 3 factions but it always end up in 2 alliances
potent ibex
There was a period of time where guild politics were in the hands of independent guilds, it was a real@world map@not@dominated by any alliance. Minimal alliances
Lots of them, but small
lost tangle
Join rea, oce and ghz to see a third faction😍
warm knoll
oce 🤮
ember cloak
oop
hollow willow
👀
vocal granite
Join rea, oce and ghz to see a third faction😍
We would have to make a 3rd faction first
warm knoll
im too useful to be banned sorry
potent ibex
Colin was once banned 👀
ember cloak
lmao
warm knoll
who says I’m not?
vocal granite
I'm just waiting for my guardian buff
potent ibex
I wonder how much of the guild community has been banned b4
lost tangle
When morph buff
potent ibex
Probably a sad number
plucky cedar
No guardian buff
hollow willow
you got un noobified unless yuo lie
warm knoll
I’ve been banned before
plucky cedar
They already made hero able to solo a level 5 all HQ
vocal granite
Ice, probably a decent number
shut perch
I’m surprised archangel didn’t get sprint or some shit since they slapped that around a bunch
warm knoll
pepo banned me for glitching into RTD 3 years ago
plucky cedar
Enough buffs to warriors
hollow willow
I’m surprised archangel didn’t get sprint or some shit since they slapped that a...
or a tanking buff
vocal granite
More warrior buffs
shut perch
Yea just some sort of archangel buff
hollow willow
tho idk about it since TankAngeL is already solid
lost tangle
A bit dps buff imo would be good
warm knoll
now me and him are besties 💕
lost tangle
Ye ik
shut perch
And don’t want to to become too good on level
lost tangle
But its dps makes it so shit
Its already good enough tank and on ws
But the dmg is so sad
hollow willow
nah nah
potent ibex
All the old people left
hollow willow
But the dmg is so sad
would you use guardian for dps? koh for dps?
assassin isn't really designed for tanking, but ArchangeL's role is Tank/Ws
vocal granite
assassin isn't really designed for tanking, but ArchangeL's role is Tank/Ws
Guardian as a bruiser style tank/dps hybrid can work
That replied to the wrong thing
Am I biased. Absolutely
hollow willow
but you will agree that other mythic spears deal more dmg
so if you really want that dmg you'll go like tcrack
but tcrack wont make you tanky
vocal granite
Yea if you want damage probably tcrack or idol
Apoc got screwed
Guardian can do damage but its not gonna be the highest
lost tangle
would you use guardian for dps? koh for dps?
Guardian and koh are support
hollow willow
same with ArchangeL
hollow willow
wow
lost tangle
Doing nothing
hollow willow
almost like Guardian pre maj ID
hollow willow
ofc it does
vocal granite
I still think the major id for guardian is mediocre
lost tangle
Bc just surviving without doing shit isnt good
hollow willow
but to think ArchangeL needs more dmg is to misunderstand FA or WFA tanking
lost tangle
I still think the major id for guardian is mediocre
It makes a whole lot of difference on group things
vocal granite
Yea ik, it just doesn't feel like it does ever
hollow willow
pfff
lost tangle
And endurance abuse their way to good dmg
vocal granite
You do know ive used guardian for 2 years right?
hollow willow
endurance will be endurance
vocal granite
Almost 3
hollow willow
ive used ArchangeL ws build for bout 3 years
vocal granite
I can barely feel the major id
And in my modern build I dont even need endurance abuse
lost tangle
Oh ye for the guardian user it doenst look like it makes a difference
But i was already carried by a guardian
It makes so much to ppl around the guardian user
vocal granite
Fair
lost tangle
And in my modern build I dont even need endurance abuse
Ur build is an exception
Its the only tank melee i ever saw lol
Like ultra tank
vocal granite
Fair
hollow willow
oh and with makani/deli buffs SpeedyAngeL is even better
vocal granite
Playing bruiser is fun
lost tangle
Praying hero with new healing major id is fun
I dont wanna invest into it to just not use like i did with ignis
ornate forge
ignis bad
ember cloak
thx ice, very cool