#guild_community | Wynncraft • MMORPG Minecraft Server | Page 862

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 4:32 PM

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oh so they're basically disabled it on hero beta

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Which is fine, it should

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But there is no balance

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 4:33 PM

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i would have liked the update if they didnt change the guilds xp

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or if they used a sensible systme

keen scarab Jan 20, 2021, 4:33 PM

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the costs for "extras" are absurd

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as if there's gonna be anything extra left after defending

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 4:33 PM

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I wouldve liked the new system if it was almost completely different

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:34 PM

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I mean, the system they used literally changed the leaderboard and put other guilds past each other even if they were lower leve

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Level*

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All depending on what percent you were at

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:34 PM

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personally wouldve been completely fine with no guild update, seriously couldve just stepped in and said "we're forcefully dissolving artemis guilds if you continue this"

keen scarab Jan 20, 2021, 4:34 PM

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and the new system doesn't allow having territories far from each other which makes tax pointless

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:34 PM

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And how much xp you had stored in that one level

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:34 PM

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since well

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artemis was pretty much update source

wide shadow Jan 20, 2021, 4:35 PM

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gluid pudat!!

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: )

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:35 PM

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gritty inlet personally wouldve been completely fine with no guild update, seriously couldve ...

i dont think that would work at all, would just piss those guilds off and force them to quit, and the cycle would begin again with new guilds taking the spot of artemis

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:35 PM

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They were so focused on potential new guilds in the future, it feels they didn’t even attempt to appeal to the existing player base

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And I was excited

keen scarab Jan 20, 2021, 4:36 PM

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I mean to me that is a fine way to think

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:36 PM

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And staff were really listening and happy to hear our input. But this is the result

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:37 PM

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i mean

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i just wanted to war

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:38 PM

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I think it was rushed

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:38 PM

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did not care about artemis as long as i could walk up and down SE 10 times a day

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UwU

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:38 PM

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I like the conseps but rn what they have in hb isn't ready

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:39 PM

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yeah

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really just rushed the update for the 1.20

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a good date

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but sitll

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 4:39 PM

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They has to becuase the trailer was out

ember cloak Jan 20, 2021, 4:39 PM

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wut

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 4:39 PM

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You cant bring a trailer and wait 5 months

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 4:39 PM

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you cna

ember cloak Jan 20, 2021, 4:39 PM

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You can tho

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They released the trailer in like November

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Guild rework should have been a separate update imo

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 4:40 PM

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You cant unless you say it which they prob wouldnt

ember cloak Jan 20, 2021, 4:40 PM

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um

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 4:40 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/pepe-clown-honk-honk-honk-red-nose-gif-13876101

Tenor

ember cloak Jan 20, 2021, 4:41 PM

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I'm excited to at least give it a shot

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 4:41 PM

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That

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Bethesda released Elder Scrolls 6 teaser in 2018

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:41 PM

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The concept of the new update was also constructed without, to the best of my knowledge, input or discussion with people that actually use the system

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I mean, it’s for us after all

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 4:41 PM

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made by someone who hasnt even played the game like

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:41 PM

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We are the ones that use it

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:41 PM

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and doesnt it need a fucking bot to actually use any form of decently?

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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did they not pull any guild people in for consulting?

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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nope

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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wtf

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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no they didnt

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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made soley by crunkle

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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look at the freaking xp

viscid siren Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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warm knoll You cant bring a trailer and wait 5 months

look cyberpunk xD

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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6000 xp a hour is so bad

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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I like the concept of the new update, but I don’t enjoy these secondary effects

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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oh god

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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you'll never level

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Once it's out im guessing there won't be any changes until new update?

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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the xp

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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6000 xp an hour is completely worthless

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i can make that off 1 mob in mirror

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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exactly

ember cloak Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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CHIGO POG

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:42 PM

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warring basically as no point

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except

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for profs

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thats it

shut coyote Jan 20, 2021, 4:43 PM

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potent ibex The concept of the new update was also constructed without, to the best of my kn...

During our staff beta we had guild people from both the moderation team and content team providing feedback

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:43 PM

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They want us to all level from grinding XP now and being slaves of grinding, rather than through the war feature in which is enjoyable in itself.

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@shut coyote Staff beta

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To test it out

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Yes

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But the actual designing of the system and what it would mean for us

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Are most of the staff warrers tho?

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:43 PM

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they just want people to spend more money on dxp bombs

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lmao

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which is kinda fine

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but

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uncool

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Again the major issue is the xp

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why war when you can bulb or mirror

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:44 PM

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just for clarification the guild systems were coded by zeero

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not crunkle

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:44 PM

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to get such better returns in minutes

scarlet kayak Jan 20, 2021, 4:44 PM

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on the thread about guild rewards i specified we starting with low values

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Why not have the old system of grinding in that area that you have?

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Does it increase?

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:45 PM

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They might

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They just want to see how it plays out

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And how much land a guild can own

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Will it be comparable to the billions we had before?

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:45 PM

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just wish to have my guild be fairly increased 😔

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:45 PM

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But part of me doesn’t think want to think of it as a reliable xp source

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Right now the level system takes soo much and even in the Hero Beta the xp part is still a lot

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:46 PM

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I thought that after releasing an update there is no going back until a new update

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:46 PM

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I just want my slots

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Then why war? Just bulb or mirror all day

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:46 PM

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yeah that's the thing

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that is what you do

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for slots anyway

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Like slots should have been the last thing to be touched. My understanding was that slots were nerfed because we would all jump levels. CLEARLY that is not the case lmao

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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I mean, we did jump 3 or 4 levels

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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i think 2 hung lol

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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we didnt go up at all

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Because you haven’t leveled up recently

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Oh really

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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ueah

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yeah

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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so the xp requirements are still absurd :/

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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It mattered what percent you were at

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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we're still 87 off pure chance

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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yea, some guilds got 6 or 7, some got 1

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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we got 0

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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or in some cases, like fox, 0

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Is the first terr u take automatic HQ?

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:48 PM

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and our percent is unchanged so we lost xp with no compensation whatsoever

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its super rough

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 4:48 PM

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the only thing i dont like is that how Salted said that he doesnt want the old xp system to affect the new update as its broken but they sure did just give random levels to random guilds with old xp

shut coyote Jan 20, 2021, 4:48 PM

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hollow willow Is the first terr u take automatic HQ?

no, you have to define the HQ and it's easily changeable

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:48 PM

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That’s fucking absurd ngl, but we are talking little now because level reqs got nerfed HUGE and we all leveled up 1-4 levels on average

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Yea as I understands TNI jumped 5 lvl outta nowhere

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:48 PM

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@forest magnet literally

ember cloak Jan 20, 2021, 4:48 PM

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UVs got 1

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lvl

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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And they clearly had like no regard for in the previous system of xp consistency

dry wagon Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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BLA got 2% :)

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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And, quoting sheepn, "TNL went from lvl 77 10% to lvl 77 10%"

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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fox too pepega

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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we did too

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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They added glowbulb, let xp become inconsistent

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Well, I didnt known 4-5 months of Imp gate would give 5 lvl

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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87 12% to 87 12%

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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And NOW they care

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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like

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:50 PM

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How is it suddenly fair and balanced now

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 4:50 PM

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you remove glowbulb cause its bad for guilds and slightly bad for normal playthrough then you make guilds dependant on a nerfed version of glowbulb

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ok!

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:50 PM

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The truth is that the guild leaderboard will never be a fair and consistent measure, I don’t get why that’s the goal

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Besides

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If anything, the new system is heavily geared towards grinding. You could be Fox at wars, and some small guild that just grinds will gain more

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Level isn’t really based off wars anymore which is odd

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Thats why we need guild xp bombs

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:51 PM

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It doesn’t make sense why the entire level dynamic is being changed this late in the game

tame ermine Jan 20, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Yeah make wars worth it

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theres litteraly no reason to wa

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other than profs

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Maye even guild wars bomb

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Or guild lvl bomb

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:52 PM

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not trying to shit on avo at all here they're just a good example but

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avo is now 3 levels closer to fox than previously and we haven't moved

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hax is 2 ahead now

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 4:52 PM

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hollow willow Or guild lvl bomb

wouldnt that just be pure pay to win 😔

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Yeah that’s bs

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Isn't hax still 88?

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:52 PM

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just harder for specifically us

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no hax got 89

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:52 PM

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No because you can just grind hatder smt noob

ember cloak Jan 20, 2021, 4:53 PM

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on god

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Fox is the only guild in 80s that was untouched

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Oh you right

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Listen. Who cares honestly, right? We are literally talking a small fraction of numbers.

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Just go grind

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And you suddenly pass it all up

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:53 PM

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just spend money on dxp bombs :)

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:53 PM

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wish i didn't have to make my members do it

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Yea Goden I dont understands how some guild got lvl but not others

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How the fuck did TNI gain 5 lvl idk

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Fking school wifi

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Guild levels were hardcore nerfed, everyone lost years of effort.

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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its just based on your % to the next level

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before this

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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PFFF AHAHAH

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So we were at 60%

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And got 5 lvl??

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Listen. The level status quo has been unchanged even tho guild levels were HARDCORE nerfed. Everyone is basically where they were before.

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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its like

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here

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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That means you can just pass up anyone now

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Imagine that one guild who were at 99%

ember cloak Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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oof

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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AVO was only like 27-30% what

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Copied from Dwicey

jovial stirrup Jan 20, 2021, 4:55 PM

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YO GUYS WE GOT 2 PERCENT GET ON OUR LVL NERDS

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:55 PM

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damn

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:55 PM

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The XP requirement goes up by 50 each level
The cap now changes to 100
The guild now has 500/100 XP
Guild Level Up! It now has 400/150 XP
Guild Level Up! It now has 250/200 XP
Guild Level Up! It now has 50/250 XP```

So like, essentially every time you level up your xp gets to 0, but any overflow xp is counted towards the next level

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wish it actually would send

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there

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did it send twice

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 4:55 PM

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yes

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 4:55 PM

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yes

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 4:55 PM

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yes

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 4:55 PM

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it did

jovial stirrup Jan 20, 2021, 4:56 PM

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yes

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yes

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:56 PM

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hate disvord

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Goden. Levels were hardcore nerfed and Fox didn’t move

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Know what that means?

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:57 PM

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my members are forced to get dxp bombs

queen radish Jan 20, 2021, 4:57 PM

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goodbye years of hard work like

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:57 PM

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p much

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:57 PM

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^

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:57 PM

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mind you us getting buffed wouldn't have changed a ton but 20b is 20b we don't have to grind

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its not insignificant

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and 20b is the low estimate

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Screw years of effort pffffft

ember cloak Jan 20, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Yeah

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Yeah that's far from fair

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:58 PM

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I guess we aren’t recruiting anyone for like a few months now

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Since we lost 17 slots

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But kept our members

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:58 PM

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we already adjusted we're at 85/85

ocean hill Jan 20, 2021, 4:58 PM

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hello join PTN best guild ok bye

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:58 PM

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we did all the update prep

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:58 PM

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i think general recruitment is gonna die for a few months

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 4:58 PM

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except this

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cause I don't think anyone expected this

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:58 PM

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So we cannot recruit anyone until 18 people leave

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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or you just purge inactive people

sage granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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join kyn we have about 30 slots :)

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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but that can still take time

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Oh my gosh

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Uhh

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Anyone know exactly what the slots would look like?

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Idk if all my chiefs were in the guild at the time@of update 😭

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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oh no

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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we were

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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smh

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Oh

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Whew

sage granite Jan 20, 2021, 4:59 PM

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noahs ark moment

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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I’m still in ERN

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Last night we brought back all our subbed members

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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😏

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Nimbuh rejoined just in time

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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And disbanded a sub :(

sage granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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which one

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Guild slots should have been the last thing touched

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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i wish they added an asterisk or something like they did for people that reached 101 or 102 or whatever

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show you put in the work before 1.20

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Well

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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nd meow cat pand

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:00 PM

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New guild can just come around and pass all of us

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Cuz it’s “fair”

sage granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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oh good i thought it was jsd or something

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Will guild tags obligatory be 4 letters

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Or will u be able to do 3 anyway

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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It's 3 or 4

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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eh idrc who passes who

sage granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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you can do 3s

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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I mean, the guild leaderboard has already changed drastically and people below surpassed those above them because of the weird system they used

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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the femboy kingdom will be created

sage granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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3s are cooler cause you got them first

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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and all of you will be memed on

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Smhinf h was about to resell my sub for spicy 3 letter

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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its sad tnl threw a 12 hour party to get lvl 77 and by doing that actually lost levels but whatcha gonna do

sage granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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@earnest crypt kyn just got its first star ik not disbanding it now!

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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salted has made his great decision, 1.20 is dropping, guilds are shit now

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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ye

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Are we complaining bout levels

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What other guilds got fucked

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Femboy kingdom hmmm

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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sadge

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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TNL at 10% xp . . .

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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I too stayed up until 4am at one day for blub

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and

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yeppppp

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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We sure as hell didn't

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:02 PM

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for the first time in my life i do agree with ice here

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Meanwhile we didnt do much with TNi and somehow gaines lvl

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Was this just a bug or

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Is it staying

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Whats the lvl of TNA rn?

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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its staying lev

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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man this is sure a sad day

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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f

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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KingdomFemboys

warm pine Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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o

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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So close to lvl 69 :(

forest magnet Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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sery wont be able to camp se and sheepn wont be able to camp herb

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sadge

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Can some1 check TNA lvl

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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😔

sage granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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g TNA

warm pine Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Pieck???

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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on the bright side

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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gonna camp fox hq with my 4 guardian alts

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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sage granite >g TNA

N oob

warm pine Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Chryssie??

sage granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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HARKA

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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this whole story with

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:03 PM

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60

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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un the bright side uhh

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what bright side

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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profs being forced down your throat

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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Tna is 60?

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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Ye

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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I'm gonna start hunting

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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sheep we know you dont have 4 guardians, you havent flexed on me yet

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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xyz gave me a bank page

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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Damn TNA doing nothing since december and gaining 2 lvl in a day smhinf h

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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gonna become the man to instil fear into every proffers dreams

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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did he actually?

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are any good?

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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uh not really

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Sheep gib m an ArchangeL if u a rich ass

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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idrc they are for guild members

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Or buy my borrrreal to use with yo gard

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Did it release yet

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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dm me the stats

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Or nah

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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no lev

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Check forum

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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No

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Tm forum under sell tag

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:05 PM

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just waiting to see someone actually say they are excited for 1.20 guilds

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Sheep buy it before 1.20 ahah nothing of importance will happen to borreal ahah

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:06 PM

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that doesnt exist sheep

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:06 PM

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it really doesnt lol

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Ill be exited for the first 15 mins prob bcs I didnt play beta

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Ill never see the potato tree again

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:07 PM

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the fact im sitting in lobby and watching pro cs waiting to try to give myself a fighting chance at launch isnt a good thing

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:07 PM

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ill be so excited for the first 10 hours when i spend all this time and LE to optimize my hq and then someone just smacks it down in 5 miutes

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Nor will I be able to do the gilya trampoline

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:07 PM

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pro c?

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Or the drowning strat

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I wish I found drowning strat before

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Ocean wouldve been wayyy easier

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Anyone upgrade their banner yesterday?

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:08 PM

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nah

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:08 PM

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TNI did twice

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:08 PM

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ngl

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banner upgrade make me sad now

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so hard

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:08 PM

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I think TNA can up banner, just need a chief to log on 😦

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:08 PM

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How are they hard

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Shouldn’t they be aside

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Easier

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:08 PM

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cuz your hq can get ez wiped

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:09 PM

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wait whats new banner up?

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Ah

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:09 PM

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loulou its just the idea you can produce emeralds

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at a rate much faster than warring could

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if theres one thing i do like is that artemis cant hold their claims

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:10 PM

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But whats new banner upgrade?

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:10 PM

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im p sure they are the same

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:10 PM

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Also rip Hax bank

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:11 PM

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oh yea the legacy bank i think is gonna be a thing

rapid arch Jan 20, 2021, 5:11 PM

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what happened to hax bank

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:12 PM

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just delete guilds in 1.20

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save us the time

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:12 PM

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yea basically

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Delete half the guilds

sturdy heron Jan 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Delete it all

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:13 PM

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And by half I mean everyone get wiped but SandyCheeksVore

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Well

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Gtg

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By the time im home we'll prob have 1.20

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:14 PM

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worst comes to worse we make ppfart #

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1

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:14 PM

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It already is

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In our hearts 😔

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:15 PM

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give ppfart ano claims in 1.20 pls

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i thought ano was become community guild :c

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Saltes if you see this: are there guild Features that werent shown in beta?

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Some1 tag me if he answer

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:15 PM

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uh i doubt

hollow willow Jan 20, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Well then

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Change da world

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My final message

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🔧 🎮

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:17 PM

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wow

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a fgist oubg

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ghost ping*

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:18 PM

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https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/what-in-the-actual-hell.281780/

Wynncraft Forums

What In The Actual Hell

Wtf happened
Is this a dream or is this the shitty reality guilds have always been.

I wake to find we lost 17 slots. I shrugged it off. It was so...

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:18 PM

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oh yes swearing the guild title

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Hell is in the Bible

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I hardly count it as a bad word

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

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is there a limit to how many you can bring in wars

tidal palm Jan 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

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6

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

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5

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

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The way everyone rushed to level up before the update. Would have been wayyy better if we didn’t even do anything or put effort

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

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o

tidal palm Jan 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

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or 5

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

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5 iirc

tidal palm Jan 20, 2021, 5:20 PM

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probably 5 ive been under a rock

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Oh

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Thought there was no limit

tidal palm Jan 20, 2021, 5:21 PM

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would be so op if you could have unlimited

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:22 PM

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the fact the guild community is all looking at this update with bated breath and disappointment, should tell more about it than anything else can

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:22 PM

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I mean, even before this there was a lot of complaint

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:22 PM

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yea

tidal palm Jan 20, 2021, 5:22 PM

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idk im gonna wait to see how the system works before bashing it, it sucks to be hit with it but its all about what they do now.

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:23 PM

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complaints are fine because they can be eventually fixed but

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something so obvious and permanent like this level change

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is permanent

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:23 PM

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How did you know you lost guild slots?

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:23 PM

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IBT gained like 4 levels

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its dozens of billions of xp just

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wasted

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:25 PM

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earnest crypt How did you know you lost guild slots?

because of the new scaling with levels and slots, everyone lost slots other than Hax supposedly, who gained 4 from what i heard

maiden pumice Jan 20, 2021, 5:25 PM

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limber river IBT gained like 4 levels

5*

sturdy heron Jan 20, 2021, 5:25 PM

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77 club

maiden pumice Jan 20, 2021, 5:25 PM

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77 gang

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:25 PM

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Is Fux 77?

maiden pumice Jan 20, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Next to the lovely TNL

sturdy heron Jan 20, 2021, 5:26 PM

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yup

maiden pumice Jan 20, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Ong

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Bruh huh

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Lmao

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:27 PM

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and then the logic is "of if we did cumulative guilds would hit the level cap"

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 5:27 PM

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87 club....

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:27 PM

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what if you based it around the existing community

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:27 PM

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FJDJDJDHHS

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:29 PM

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What’s the level cap?

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:29 PM

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bUt doNt Worry it took us an hour of bulb to grind to 79 wOaH

📎 unknown.png

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:29 PM

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LMAO

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As I said

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:29 PM

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wait what

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:29 PM

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@limber river lets go camping together 🥺 👉 👈

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:29 PM

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cant wait for it to take 10 hours to do something that previously took thousands

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:29 PM

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We shouldn’t whine about not gaining an extra level

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:29 PM

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wait

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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we should ice

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Oh did you guys not get awards?

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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cal you grinded 78 - 79 just now?

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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mhm

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Bruh

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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we went from 78

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Good update

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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well we were 77 yesterday

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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this update

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is dog water

tired wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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fass asf boi

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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we got 78 from the update

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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We got badges

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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and grinded to 79

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Braindead devs istg lmaoo

earnest crypt Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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📎 image0.png

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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we mighta got them last night

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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That is NOT okay

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

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i am shocked how just

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i cant even

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:31 PM

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1 hour of grind and we leveled

tired wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 5:31 PM

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brrrrrrrr

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:31 PM

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yea medals we got last night when we got the update xp

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Wow omg everyone can pass Hax now

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What would have virtually@been impossible

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And what Fox has not even done yet

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Aka pass up Hax

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:31 PM

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😔

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Can now be done by everyone

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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@shut perch are the like 1.20 xp reqs out?

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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he is flexxing on us

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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but wityh glowbulb still

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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non

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we levelled at 14%

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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a

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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what

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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I mean ytes

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we levelled at 14%

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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tbh after this whole leveling bullshit i dont even want to give the update a try

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Me either because like

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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so basically we can grind out the 1.20 reqs on main right now but with bulb?

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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All our past work was invalidated

rare birch Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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wacky

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:32 PM

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yes goden

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:33 PM

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all those years begging for a guild update and this LOL

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Shouldnt have saved the cows in the detlas tunnel

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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thats what we get when its developed by someone who had played wynn to level 2 before a month ago

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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awesome fox is getting

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many people into bulb

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time to make up for the level missed

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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ah thank you salted for this

rare birch Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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fun game

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Wow Fox is going to finally pass up Hax

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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absolutely not

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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In a matter of an hour

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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we cannot do like

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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imagine

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 5:34 PM

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90b in an hour ice

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i WISH we could but no

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we can maybe get 50% of the 1.20 level lmao

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still not even what we would have gotten from proper compensation but its something

gritty inlet Jan 20, 2021, 5:35 PM

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split into

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2 worlds

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2 bulbs at once !

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:35 PM

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ct just kinda did their own thing and oh well i guess old guilds just gotta deal with it

wide shadow Jan 20, 2021, 5:36 PM

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shut perch thats what we get when its developed by someone who had played wynn to level 2 b...

but they spent all their time on gm!!!!111!!11

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:36 PM

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!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:36 PM

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with input from like

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3 guild players

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 5:37 PM

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dont worry guys since then crunkle has got to level 27, he should have joined a guild by now and know about lots of guild stuff

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:37 PM

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i want to know who they got input from

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:37 PM

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crack dealer off the side of the street, a monkey and aledar

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 5:38 PM

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monke

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:38 PM

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so tnt, an average atlas inc member and aledar?

ocean nimbus Jan 20, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Saw the forum post, rip guilds

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I have no clue how this mess is getting cleaned up

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 5:47 PM

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im pretty sure it will be a "get over it" type of deal

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:47 PM

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It's not most likely

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:47 PM

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at this point, no fucking clue

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probably just a get over it yea

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and you watch the guild community just, die

maiden umbra Jan 20, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Just leave wynn it’s not even worth it to stay here anymore

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Lmao

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Unless ur in ERN

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😎

sturdy heron Jan 20, 2021, 5:49 PM

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🍿

maiden umbra Jan 20, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Been torturing guilds for the past 6 years and the admins finally pulled the goddamn trigger

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I am here for it and HAPPY

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That they finally did it

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:49 PM

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pally go grab Jeanne and just run

maiden umbra Jan 20, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Lmao

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Wynn guilds are just a sinking ship now

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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yep, lets all go play fgo

maiden umbra Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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So who’s jumping to safety first

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Imp already did it preemptively

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Hypickle skyblock? 😳

maiden umbra Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Yis

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😳

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Imp forsaw the future

maiden umbra Jan 20, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Artemis guild in hypicle

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Let’s go

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Yessss

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We will uh conquer all the uh idk mob grinders

maiden umbra Jan 20, 2021, 5:51 PM

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@limber river new artemis v goose wars are going to be fighting for highest damage on dragons

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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i mean, would probably be at least more interesting

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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I don’t even care about artemis v goose, idc about the guild map

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We all have much larger problems

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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guys don't worry you still get 6k xp an hour 😅

maiden umbra Jan 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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Oh hell yea

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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6k xp an hour is insulting

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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Fshshshshdjsjd

sturdy heron Jan 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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Gains

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 5:52 PM

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who needs guild slots

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:53 PM

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Salted said it is just to test, it will prob be increased

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:53 PM

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like, id rather take a steel toed boot kick to the balls

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:53 PM

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But I wouldn’t rely on it as a main source of income

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:53 PM

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or another whip to the forehead

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 5:53 PM

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guilds might have to actually force /gu xp now

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which sucks

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:53 PM

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yea

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:53 PM

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Another?

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 5:53 PM

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nobody likes doing that and nobody likes to force people to do that

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:53 PM

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Wow u been places

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:54 PM

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yea, accidentally got hit in the forehead by a friend cracking a whip indoors

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:54 PM

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lmao

#

Were u ok?

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:54 PM

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was trying to hit his bedpost, got me square in the forehead

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oh yea i was fine

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Phew

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:54 PM

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stung a bit but thats expected when you get hit by something going faster than the speed of sound

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:55 PM

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Poor community guilds

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They don’t focus on wars or levels

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And now even their slots got nerfed

jovial stirrup Jan 20, 2021, 5:57 PM

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imagine being a community guild

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 5:57 PM

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I have numerous other issues that should have come up and been fixed that apparently haven't

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like why are we forcing people to use tank builds for wars

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Zelefant shh

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We are not suppose to question it

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 5:58 PM

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I am going to question it

rotund kernel Jan 20, 2021, 5:58 PM

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rip Fatal gang

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 5:59 PM

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my only guess is they kept it because they saw an opportunity to make people buy champion and use the build swapper

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:59 PM

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just remember, heavy melee guardian refuses to die

ocean nimbus Jan 20, 2021, 6:00 PM

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The idea of FOX in HSB terrifies me

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You go to get some drags and BAM 5 fox dudes show up with maxed out gear and kill it in 3 seconds

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 6:01 PM

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guilds are balanced

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 6:02 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/bye-felicia-thanos-thanos-snap-gif-14104003

Tenor

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As they should be

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 6:03 PM

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bahaha salted is thanos now

keen scarab Jan 20, 2021, 6:04 PM

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salted do be thanos

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 6:06 PM

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but he snapped away my happiness

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 6:07 PM

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In this case

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They snapped away all our xp 😭

hidden valve Jan 20, 2021, 6:33 PM

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my guild gained like 4 levels because of this update lol

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33 -> 37

jovial stirrup Jan 20, 2021, 6:39 PM

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umm we gained 2% so thats pretty pogu right

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 6:59 PM

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📎 ppfart.png

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@queen radish blobhug2

queen radish Jan 20, 2021, 7:06 PM

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ppfart

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

#

We were at level 77, we got bumped to level 78.

6 of my guild members decided to go grind dxp and we got to level 79 in an hour

This is so absurdly broken. The work of guilds is being extremely invalidated. It is ridiculous that a guild as high a level as mine can just level in an hour with little effort. What used to take forever now takes little time.

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

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the standard for a high level will change then, i'd imagine

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Which is why even if your guild jumped 7 levels from this, you are still a victim. That is literally nothing

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Leveling would take us a month on average

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We just did it in an hour

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This is problematic because despite level reqs being nerfed hardcore, actual guild levels barely changed

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:09 PM

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wdym by that

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:10 PM

#

They nerfed level requirements

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Like how much xp it takes to level

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but they didn't actually boost us that much

#

We only got to keep the xp from our current level

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so most guilds got boosted up 1 level

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despite level requirements having been nerfed A LOT

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Basically

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Guilds did not get adjusted to the new level requirements

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We lost that xp

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We basically kept the level

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but the reqs got nerfed

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And hence it is much easier to level in this range now

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 7:11 PM

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📎 christmas_subway_1.mp4

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:11 PM

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They probably figured that since territories don't produce xp anymore really, they need to nerf level requirements.

I don't know if they understand that grinding has outshined xp from territories for a long time tho

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Ever since glowbulb

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Glowbulb had the capability of producing more than every territory on the map combined

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:12 PM

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glowbulb is getting removed is it not

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:12 PM

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yo

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:12 PM

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There are other methods of grinding that are still very efficient

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:12 PM

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im in that meme :)

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:12 PM

#

all guilds can lvl up faster now

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WHAT are u on about

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Because it invalidated years of effort

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:12 PM

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the new eyeball cathedral place is like 1/2 effective as bulb but still good

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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I can go pass up Fox right now LMAO

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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how,

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well if they stopped playing u could

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lol

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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we just dropped a crisp like

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10 dxp bombs

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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Because they hardcore nerfed level requirements and didn't adjust our levels

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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the difference between us and fox reduced by hundreds of Billions

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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we gained like 15% to next level :D

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really glad we had to pay to get even a little of the compensation everyone else got normally

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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ye it be easier to lvl up now bc u get like 6k xp an hour from ur terrs lmao

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:13 PM

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POPPING off even

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:14 PM

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WHAT do u expect,

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:14 PM

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ivo you do know that for fox that means it takes

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Ice had some math about it, something like if you are on 900/1000 XP to level up, they changed the caps but didn't scale your current xp so you leveled up 9 times cuz cap changed to 100

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:14 PM

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over a YEAR to level up passively

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once.

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with 20 territories

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:14 PM

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@gritty nest Yes, but the fact is that grinding is still far superior

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:14 PM

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it will be buffed obv but rn its not even worth looking at

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:14 PM

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yeah rn its a joke

gritty nest Jan 20, 2021, 7:14 PM

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did i add something to this conversation or was i the wrong one pinged

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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pretty sure salted said on multiple occasions it’ll be buffed a ton

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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he said itll be buffed

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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so passive lvling and grinding are more balanced

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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It will probably be buffed, yes

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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they dont know how much yet

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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That isn't the point tho

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The point is that years of effort just got erased

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

#

how

gritty nest Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

#

how

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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dont get

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Because they nerfed level requirements but didn't adjust the actual level. Its ridiculously easy to level up now.

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We just leveled to level 79 in an hour

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with just 6 people casually grinding

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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i guess i get what u mean but u DO get the reqs are the same for everyone right

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Yes

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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my only xp complaint is the painful compensation system

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otherwise its fair enough

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sucks but its fair

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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the fact u can get to lvl 70 more easily now doesnt mean anything

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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compensation straight up wasnt

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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📎 ppfart.png

gritty nest Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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ppfart

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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ppfart

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Well, it means that its actually possible to pass up Hax

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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ppfart

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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truly ppfart

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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inv me to ppfart

gritty nest Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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its ano subguild

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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guilds take ridiculously long to level up pre-1.20

It takes a lot of effort for the top guilds to remain at the top

So for one guild to be able to level up 7 times while others cannot means the top leveled guilds might suddenly no longer be on top and invalidate years of hard work

gritty nest Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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so rude

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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its always been possible

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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the difference of hundreds of billions of xp between us and Fox is now MUCH less and very possible

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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ye what zelefant said basically

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we couldve passed hax with the compensation system if we were at 86 99% but we were at 87 0% so they gained on us a good bit instead

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:18 PM

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the lvl jumps were a bug i thin,k

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:18 PM

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the fact that one percent is so polarizing in this system is

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no

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its 100% intentional

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confirmed several times

cloud pier Jan 20, 2021, 7:18 PM

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wtfrick why

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Okay so essentially:
nerfs xp requirements making it ridiculously easy to level
barely adjusts level of existing guilds

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We leveled in an hour of 6 people casually grinding, meanwhile no one really shifted in level.

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:19 PM

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it sounds like they should've just taken the raw number of xp and applied that to the new levelling system?

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:19 PM

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yes

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pls

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:19 PM

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what did they do instead

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:19 PM

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or that *0.8 or smthn

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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ripe niche what did they do instead

They changed level caps and didn't properly scale the already earned xp

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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If we all skyrocketed from the adjustments, 1 level wouldn't be that much. The fact is - guilds did NOT adjust in level despite the fact guild level requirements were hardcoreeee nerfed.

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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thus, guilds with 90% xp leveled several times

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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hardy saffron They changed level caps and didn't properly scale the already earned xp

perfectly said

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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to be honest i would be fine if they just deleted overflow % and either directly transferred only the level number or the level number + 1 level

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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and guilds with 10% didn't

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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it would delete a lot of overflow but

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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so they just did it wrong basically

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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its undeniably fair across the board

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yeah pretty much

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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they did it exactly right

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That's exactly what their goal was

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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mathematically its correct

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what they did makes sense

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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but its not ideal

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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but its inherently super unfair and they seemed aware of that too

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but just did it anyway

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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But as a good way to balance? No

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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i'm not grasping this sorry
eli5 how it's unfair

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i'm not trying to take the piss i'm just dense rn

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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ok consider

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Level 76 at 99% > Level 77 at 1%.

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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guild 1 is at lv86, 95%
guild 2 is at lv87, 0%

guild 1 becomes lv88
guild 2 stays lv87

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with this system

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that is exactly what happens

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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A level 76 guild at 99% would have been at like level 80, where as the level 77 guild at 1% stays put

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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guild 1 passes guild 2 cause of overflow

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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But honestly, thats BEYOND the point. These are tiny numbers.

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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despite being before them

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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We literally just leveled to level 79 from level 78 in AN HOUR

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thats ridiculously easy, especially considering the fact guilds did not adjust in level

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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reverse levlling pog

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levelling*

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wait wtf

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Guilds getting to the top levels put in years of effort to reach those levels.

Let's say Guild A is top guild with 10% exp.
Guild B is 5th top with 90% xp.

Update comes. A doesn't level up. B levels up seven times and becomes #1 guild

A's hard work has become invalidated

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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that system is so dumb

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:23 PM

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basically, in a matter of time, literally everyone will be in the level 80 range. Its problematic though because, for example, guilds like Fox didn't get adjusted.

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so its like bye bye hard work

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:23 PM

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yeah what

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that sounds so stupid

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:23 PM

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civic bane guild 1 is at lv86, 95% guild 2 is at lv87, 0% guild 1 becomes lv88 guild 2 sta...

is this exaggerated or literal?

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 7:24 PM

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literal

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:25 PM

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not to mention getting hard work invalidated is incredibly demoralizing and we might see a drop in activity in a lot of huge guilds as a result

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:25 PM

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so......
a guild with a higher level but less xp through that level pre-1.20
can be a lower level than
a guild with a lower level but more xp through that level pre-1.20

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bc of this change

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:25 PM

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yes

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:25 PM

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?????????????????

edgy gyro Jan 20, 2021, 7:25 PM

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Actually the lvl 86 at 95% xp would probably boost higher than 88

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:25 PM

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Did they like take ONLY the overflow xp and calculated with the new system?

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:25 PM

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and not only that but within a month there will be several other guilds competing for the #1 spot out of nowhere

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:26 PM

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im so confused

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who thought that was a good idea?

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:26 PM

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salted

edgy gyro Jan 20, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Braindead people

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:26 PM

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salted if you read this you're a silly goose

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:26 PM

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the cow

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:26 PM

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thE cow

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:27 PM

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tbh, it is actually dummy possible for any guild just to grind to #1

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Just in general i believe this "conversion" is really bad

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:27 PM

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maybe GYP can finally be on top

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:27 PM

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i know i grinded 2 hours with 3 ppl for 2%

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and we just lvled in and hour

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Like for level 80 lets say its like 50b rn. But after update its like 20. Thats 30b gone

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:27 PM

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its dum

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:27 PM

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@potent ibex The update was well needed, and it is well thought out. The guild rework brings strategy to the guild game.
Adjusting guild levels was just a preparation for 1.20. We don't know exactly how 1.20 leveling will work. But the basic idea is still the same. The most active (and now the best thought out) guild wins.

Huge thumbs up for the development team for the courage and the ability for bringing out such a great update. I think, this is the right path. Some people will disagree, but there are always people who dislike new things. We have to go with the new waves, and get the best out of it!

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Literally gone from your guild

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:28 PM

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peter bro

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i love you

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 7:28 PM

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peter, you are wrong

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:28 PM

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i love you very much

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but you're wrong

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 7:28 PM

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have you tried the new update?

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Sadly I am not a HERO, to try out

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:28 PM

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are you in a guild

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peter

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:28 PM

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aeq

vocal granite Jan 20, 2021, 7:28 PM

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the new war system makes all wars much easier and there is no room for logging off at all if you want to keep your bank or any territories at all

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:28 PM

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But what I saw in HERO beta livestreams, etc was great

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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We were not at all speaking about the actual war function itself

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I am a fan of the war system

warm knoll Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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ppfart

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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but wars are not the problem

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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I never once mentioned it on my thread

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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fluid fjord are you in a guild

I am the leader of Aequitas

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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😛

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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the xp loss is fine

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NOT FINE

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MISS TYPE

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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This isn't at all related to the guild war function. The concern is elsewhere.

They changed level caps and didn't properly scale the already earned xp, and nerfed slots big time.

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The #1 spot is about to be heavily contested because, despite years of efforts, it didn't transfer over. They nerfed guild xp requirements, but they did not adjust the levels of existing guilds. They've essentially made it ridiculously easy to level now and kept everyone exactly where they are at.

My guild leveled entirely to 79 in just an hour of a few people casually grinding. Soon enough, everyone will be past the level 80 range and pass up

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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its that hours and hours are just gone

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Ofc, any small guild that virtually did not have a chance of passing up these veteran guilds like Fox that had years of effort into their level is going to be happy.

It is true that some people will be happy.

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:30 PM

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potent ibex The #1 spot is about to be heavily contested because, despite years of efforts, ...

I see no problem with it. They ADJUSTED the levels for 1.20. Now there are new xp requirements. The same rule applies, the most active guild wins

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:30 PM

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They didn't adjust levels

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Do you know how they did it at all?

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:30 PM

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they did some retarded 'conversion' apparently

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:31 PM

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they voided hundreds of billions of xp how is that adjustment

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Peter the problem is that they didnt count the xp given in your guild as a whole but ONLY the overflow

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Have you even read into the topic?

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:31 PM

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So lets say you had 50b in levels and 2b in overfloe

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You will only get those 2b converted in 1.20

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Making the 52b effectively 30b for example

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:32 PM

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wait I might be able to make a really good example

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hhhhhhhhh

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Wait

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Ice made a thread?

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:o

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Gib gib

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/what-in-the-actual-hell.281780/

Wynncraft Forums

What In The Actual Hell

Wtf happened
Is this a dream or is this the shitty reality guilds have always been.

I wake to find we lost 17 slots. I shrugged it off. It was so...

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The main concern here is guild slots.

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Level has always been associated with guild slots

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Oh i see

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Every guild lost a lot

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I lost 17, ASh lost 13, ect.

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I think Hax lost a TON

edgy gyro Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Hax didn't lose a lot actually

ripe niche Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 PM

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GYP lost loads

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:34 PM

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i think someone said we lost 12 or smth

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:34 PM

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potent ibex Have you even read into the topic?

Yes, I have talked to several people, and read into it.
I find Moe's answer the best for explaining the topic:

"Lower level guilds leveled up several times because of their XP. Higher level guilds, not so much. The guild system got reworked, and I can't explain all of it. There was basically nothing that was done differently with XP, this update, from the last update. Some guilds are going to be happy with it, some guilds won't be. The changes were made purely mathematically, and they aren't meant to hurt or to help any specific guild(s). When you start wars, you'll see the difference."

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Simple math

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:34 PM

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No

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Lower level guilds and higher level guilds

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it didn't matter if you were high or lower level guild

jovial stirrup Jan 20, 2021, 7:34 PM

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bla lost 23

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poggers

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:34 PM

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f

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:34 PM

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because it was dependent on your level range

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Its simple math

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A Guild has 500/1000 XP
The XP requirement goes up by 50 each level
The cap now changes to 100
The guild now has 500/100 XP
Guild Level Up! It now has 400/150 XP
Guild Level Up! It now has 250/200 XP
Guild Level Up! It now has 50/250 XP

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For example

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Also about guild slots, since you can level up so quickly, you shouldn't worry too much about guild slots, you can get them back easily

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:35 PM

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125/100 is the same overflow in comparison with 1250/1000

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they will both level accordingly

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:35 PM

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And don't tell me, that your guild had 100% active people, because every guild has some inactives

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Our inactivity kick period is 5 days.

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In which case, I will kick

gloomy talon Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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What happened

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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damn 5days

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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10 days ice

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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thats rough

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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we used to have 3

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Lmao

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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jesus

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Until we left Artemis

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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EEE
EEE
EEE

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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As I've said, there is no point of rioting. That only drains your energy. You need to put this energy into planning for 1.20, adjusting to the system, and trying to get the best out of it

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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we got 14 lol

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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@jolly heart As you said, its really easy to level up now. They didn't adjust the level of guilds though, so people can all pass up Fox or Hax now for example

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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jolly heart Also about guild slots, since you can level up so quickly, you shouldn't worry t...

But what will be compensated for the years of dedication people gave to Wynn because of guilds?

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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or

tender slate Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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join shy

plucky cedar Jan 20, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Lol

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Will we be compensated for the years of hard work we put into leveling up our guilds?

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:37 PM

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no

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:37 PM

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exactly

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:37 PM

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You clearly don't even know how the system works because even Salted himself said it wasn't the greatest. .

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📎 unknown.png

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:37 PM

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"Least disruptive"

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:37 PM

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you making it out to be perfect. There are obvious problems.

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Even they acknowledge that

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:38 PM

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hardy saffron But what will be compensated for the years of dedication people gave to Wynn bec...

Guild system is changed, new ways of leveling up. You have to be active again, and make it again. Gives a new aspect, new goals

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:38 PM

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potent ibex You clearly don't even know how the system works because even Salted himself sai...

No solution is the greatest, always everyone will complain. But the developers had to make a solution, and it was the right path to choose

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Then dominate the guild map with your activity. Level is a work of consistency over time.

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:38 PM

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jolly heart Guild system is changed, new ways of leveling up. You have to be active again, a...

Guild system is changed, for better or for worse, and now people can pass Hax and Fox in a week

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:38 PM

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^

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:38 PM

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I wouldn't call that compensation

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:38 PM

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but is the novelty worth putting thouzends of hours down the drain

gloomy talon Jan 20, 2021, 7:39 PM

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What happened?

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:39 PM

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hardy saffron Guild system is changed, for better or for worse, and now people can pass Hax an...

You cannot just build on the past, have to work in the present. That's how real world system works as well

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:39 PM

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We aren't talking about jobs or schooling with actual consequences

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This is block game

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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leave the chat

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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hardy saffron This is block game

A good game is, what represents the real world

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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we put hours into it that we didn't have to, we gain nothing from it except enjoyment and community, and now a lot of that time spent has been invalidated

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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bad

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ice

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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@shut perch please come lobby 5

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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ily but bad ice

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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thousands of hours are just wiped

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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im omw

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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limber river <@!261574295027843073> please come lobby 5

you arent even here

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im crying

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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Experienced game developers try to make the game as realistic as possible. You have to have goals always, not just sit on your victory

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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rescued to ashes

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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That's how it works in the world

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:40 PM

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but

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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wtf

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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this ia

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is

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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📎 C6b8QfD4lzSNAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png

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ppfart

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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a video game

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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me and nimbuh are here

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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That's how it should work in a successful game

keen scarab Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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realism is absolutely not what makes a good game lmao

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Any guild in the 80 range is active FYI

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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theres like 80 people in the lobby

keen scarab Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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where are you getting this from

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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im dumb

limber river Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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AHH THE YELLOW LETTER

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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potent ibex Any guild in the 80 range is active FYI

Since they are, they will remain in the lead

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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21 days

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for 1.20

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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But old guilds, who have high levels couldn't be passed easily for now

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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btw for people saying its super easy ot level

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its still really not

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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It isn't based on war now, its based on being grind slaves

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:41 PM

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like

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for us 87 > 88 is still 25b

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its not insignificant

edgy gyro Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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With enough dxp bombs, anything is possible!

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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WAY easier but still a huge grind

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Now there is an opportunity for anyone to actually achieve their goals with enough work

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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potent ibex It isn't based on war now, its based on being grind slaves

am i ur slave? daddy

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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And you don't have to be behind an old guild, who are now inactive

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Yes, a guild with activity can dominate the guild map

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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okay let's put this into perspective

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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You can be #1 on the guild map

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Level is a measure of consistency with time.

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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i mean

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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Exactly

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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wars dont matter rn

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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As all things should be

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:42 PM

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territories dont make you number 1

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its just how much you grind

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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LXA had a huge glow bulb party yesterday, numerous people had GU XP set to 100 and there was dxp

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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thats all itll be for awhile until whenever the xp buff kicks in

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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We were there for like an hour

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we gained 2% xp

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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And if you aren't aware, xp has always become more and more inflated, so anyone in the 70+ range HAS to be active

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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That should put into perspective the work you have to put in

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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civic bane wars dont matter rn

That's the good thing about it. You can't win with being a no life warrer with no brain anymore. You have to make exact and well thought out strategical decisions

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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in order to get to the top

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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thats not at all what i mean

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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That isn't what he means

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Territories do not produce xp

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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i mean specifically territories give no xp

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no significant xp

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Or at least, not reliably

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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so you can do 0 wars

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ever

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and pass every guild in the game

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and be #1

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lmao

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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6k per hour scottcereal

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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You can NEVER participate in the war feature, just spend your time grinding, and be #1

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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just depends how many grinders you have in the guild

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Wars are just a waste of time in comparison

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Just grind instead of warring

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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and how much money

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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i do have a good bit of faith the xp thing on territories will be fairly adjusted but

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it wont be for a good while i think

keen scarab Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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jolly heart That's the good thing about it. You can't win with being a no life warrer with n...

no you dont lmao its camp one territory

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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potent ibex You can NEVER participate in the war feature, just spend your time grinding, and...

This is what gets me, while it's great for community guilds it screws those who spend hours warring

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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it screws both

keen scarab Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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there's nothing strategic about it

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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I just want my dam slots

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:44 PM

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community is forced to play the game a lot more

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you have to grind for slots

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a lot of them

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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potent ibex I just want my dam slots

You can get them with enough work

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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wars have to grind too now

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its not work lmao its just

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hey buy dxp bombs

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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basically they want us to be slaves of guild xp grind and dxp bomb purchasing

civic bane Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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and sit in witness church

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for now

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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potent ibex basically they want us to be slaves of guild xp grind and dxp bomb purchasing

and for now we all were war slaves better? no

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Who are you to define what is "work" ?

keen scarab Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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i beg to differ

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:45 PM

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How do you define the work

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How much wars you do?

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How much your guild grinds towards some superficial level?

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Community guilds got sliced too

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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This is the point

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You have to set goals

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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And community contributes in a much larger way

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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You might want to set a goal, to have the most territory

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Or to have the highest level

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Those are superficial

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Different goals, different plans

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That's why it's good

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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I don't know why you are defending this

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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It gives guilds a whole new aspect

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Those are legit shitty goals to have, a guild should be based on community

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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It's very clearly a broken system

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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I don't create a guild on the basis of being #1 in a superficial system

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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there is some serious mental gymnastics

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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potent ibex Those are legit shitty goals to have, a guild should be based on community

You can also be based on community. No problem with that.

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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There is a problem lmao

wooden sigil Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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😂 guilds

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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They took away everyone's slots

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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so why cut playerslots

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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join my tea party

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its not a guild

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!

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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fackt

ornate forge Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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gonna need fucking brain surgery after reading this

queen radish Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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ppfart

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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ppfart

queen radish Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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📎 ppfart.png

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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potent ibex There is a problem lmao

There is no problem at all. You want more people? Get higher level. Do it as a community. And by this you make your community stick together even more. Because this update makes them fight for each other

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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I could get on Wynn right now and see I'm kicked from the guild with no way to rejoin because our guild isn't high enough level

potent ibex Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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So make community guilds have to slave grind xp just so they can grow their community

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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wht if we feed

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the whole map to ppfart

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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if you were on the receiving end of that how would you feel?

shut perch Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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@limber river speak to me

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hear me

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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ripe grail wht if we feed

grand plan

ripe grail Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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ikr

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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ripe grail the whole map to ppfart

yes

jolly heart Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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potent ibex So make community guilds have to slave grind xp just so they can grow their comm...

Didn't it work similarly for now? You had to be a war slave to level up enough in order to get more level => to have more slots

fluid fjord Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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some would say the best

hardy saffron Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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ppfart